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fash78:
Hey guy I took the comment above back. Your land is much more bigger than mine. The total area of my land is 767sqm and your is 1338sqm. Your is more bigger than mine with about 571sqm. May be that is why you are spending much more on materials and labour (I think).

fash78:
That is on a high side. I didnt add the cost of blocks to mine also because the blocks were already made since last year.

fash78:
That is outrageous. I try to arm myself with information regarding labour for my project. I have provided some rule of thumbs that I normally use:

Mason charge for block laying - Normally should be between N35K - 45K per 1000 blocks
Mason charge for casting - Averagely N3K per m3 of concrete (You need to know the thickness, depth and length of your slab)
iron bender - 15K - 20K per Ton of reinforcement depending on how many Tons and location of work (height )
For carpenter - I go with daily rate of 3-4K per day (Starting point of negotiation is "how many days will it take you to finish the work"

Materials: Buy your materials yourself, very very important and look around for honest suppliers.

The total cost of my fence should not be more than 1.3M give or take with the gates and grills.


NOTE: Mind you the cost i posted earlier does not include plastering of the fence o and other things like electrical work e.t.c.

fash78:
@Fast shipping, how much would you have expected? And what is your basis of qualifying the labour and or materials as "very cheap"

fash78:
Guys we eventually started the fence work today. Had some delay and issues but have been resolved one way or the other.
The breakdown of labour, materials and scope of work are as below:

Work scope:
- Fence work around 25.8m by 29.74m land including two iron gates in front and iron grills

Materials:
Total blocks - 2500 pieces
Cement - estimated 100 bags ( but I am buying as we go, presently bought 20 bags)
Sharp sand - 4 trips of 30Ton
12mm reinforcement - 1 Ton
10mm reinforcement - 1Ton
Granite - 30Ton (We actually needed 15Ton but I bought extra 15Ton for the casting of septic tank and soakaway)
Binding wire - 2 bundles
3" Nails - 1 bundle
4" Nails - 1 bundle
Of course wood - (We are using left over woods from foundation and decking work)

Labour
Mason
Digging and blinding work - 20K
Casting of raft foundation for the fence (1 board beam) - 40K
Fence block setting including toppings and casting of columns - 120K
Casting of pillars for the two gates in front - 25K

Iron bender - 30K

Carpenter - 50K


I will upload some pictures as they are ready, right now nothing to upload as they have just started digging and blinding today.

abdulwastecx:
I will disagree with you sir. The single windows in those room have a dimension of 1500mm x 1200mm which is big enough to allow flow of air. cross ventilation is good but in situation where its not possible to get a wider window will do. Ventilation also depend on the vegetation cover, movement of earth round the sun and the wind direction.
Check out this design of a building in USA

abdulwastecx:
Nigerians love to separate their living room from the dinning area.
the kitchen can be moved from its current location to the laundry location, that i will do
i think the visitor's toilet is important and will stay
the veranda in the front is an important because of its unique functionality and aesthetic look
The master's bedroom is ok and will stay

ojesymsym:
All the guru in the house should please help to review and criticise the attached drawing. It's the draft plan for a 3 bedroom flat and can still be amended before sending it to an architect for a proper drawing. All inputs will be considered and appreciated. Gurus in the house and others with building experiences should also make recommendations.

cc: kcsystems
segcymoor
spyder
aventure
skimanski

mufutau55:
If you are using Internet Explorer.. on the bottom status line... increase the View to 125% instead of 100% and it should be fine,
you have a very big and good monitor too.. I have the HP 2711x.

Hajji M.

sule4:
I Said I'll show you, I didn't say online. Come to my own neck of the wood or put your email address up here for me to send it to. You asked me to put my plan online?

OneVote:
@Abdulwastecx,
This is what I understand from some feedbacks.

@FastShipping the whole plan is NOT totally flawed. You had the best feedback but your approach is very poor.
You need to take a 30seconds course on providing feedback.

This I got from google will suffice:
Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others, usually involving both positive and negative comments, in a friendly manner rather than an oppositional one. The purpose of constructive criticism is to improve the outcome.
Constructive criticism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_criticism

mufutau55:
Very, very big on my monitor (27inch) here... how are you viewing it? I can even read the writings clearly.
Tried it on my Samsung Galaxy III phone too, and I can enlarge it pretty well; when turned landscape mode.

Hajji M.

ojesymsym:
Nice analysis, could you also be kind enough to critique this design, I offered up for some criticism recently and I got some very instructive ones, would not mind more of sure before actual construction.
https://www.nairaland.com/2413088/3-bedroom-drawing-open-criticism

sule4:
Please reread where I said the dining area should be closer to the living room.
Put up your own email address here, let me send you pictures. Abdul is doing a great job, just putting up with some of y'all. Believe it or not, he's an intelligent and patient man. I I'm Not.

PHfinest:
The above sounds harsh to some of us.

PHfinest:
Some of the criticisms were hash but in defence of chief Abdul u threw a few punches below the belt of another Nairalander doing a good Job.

These builders work for clients and will need their permission to release floor plans. I for one will not grant such for security reasons.

sule4:
Everyone needs to slow down on the criticisms. In the U.S! Seriously! My laundry is right after my kitchen. I'll show you many 6 and 7 bedroom homes, with two living rooms with that same pattern. The Plan in my opinion, needs the living room closer to the kitchen and ventilation system in the masters bathroom. Since there's no steady electricity supply in Nigeria, that might mean a window.
This young man is open hearted; let's not try only see flaws in his work without appreciating his creativity. There's no such thing as impeccable/ perfect, except for fissions.

erico2k2:
I agree with you to some extent however, the idea of laundry room close to the bedroom would be a no brainier, ie imagine the washing machine spinning to dry at 11pm, too noisy ,if you check most new built houses in the west, washing machine is in the kitchen under the kitchen work. as for the *bringing dirty clothes through the living room to the laundry * you got me choking , I would like to think there is such thing as laundry basket.But on a serious note, he does need to do some changes, I will upload my plans here too, mayB you guys can check for fault as well cos two heads are way better than one.

erico2k2:
there are two flaws in your floor plans Oga mufutau already spoted the lack of window in the master B/room WC, the next flaw is that your dinning area is far from your kitchen,it requires food to come out of kitchen unto living area then to dinning area.The reason open plan kitchen came i nto be was to address this issue,I recon you should adjust your plan so that the laundry room goes behind the kitchen and the kitchen is adjacent to the living room and just behind the dinning area, you can make it open plan with arch opening or just put a door to seal out smell and frying smoke,wh yah say

FastShipping:
Back to business.

anwo247:
Published On: Sun, Jun 28th, 2015
National News | By admin
South-West Leaders Regret Voting for Buhari, Blame Tinubu for their Woes

LAGOS JUNE 28TH (URHOBOTODAY)-Some South-West leaders are currently biting their fingers in regret over voting President Muhammadu Buhari into office.The zone is particularly angry with the President, who is the leader of the All Progressives Congress, APC, for tolerating the outcome of National Assembly leadership election, which did not favour the region.Buhari’s silence according to them is a serious indication that the zone, which queued behind him to ensure victory at the recent polls, may benefit little or nothing from the administration.
“For the fact that the South-West played a key role in the emergence of Buhari as the President, it is expected that they would occupy a more strategic position than the post of vice president”, said one of the leaders.
They argued that the National Assembly leadership election, which eventually placed the North Central geopolitical zone as a powerful force in the country’s power equation through the emergence of former Kwara governor, Bukola Saraki, as Senate President and Yakubu Dogara from the North-East, has depicted the South-West as not only a weak power bloc in the equation.
With the power structure now,the South-West as a region has been relegated to the background in the power structure of the country.Some of the leaders of the region who also participated in the last National Conference argue that since the South-West does not hold any substantial position in the current power structure, the region must re-strategise to assert itself in the politics of the nation.They further argued that the position of Vice President, which is presently held by a south westerner, does not place the region as a powerful force.
While referring to one of the speeches made by former President Goodluck Jonathan during the campaigns leading up to the 2015 general elections, National Coordinator of Coalition of Democrats for Electoral Reform, CODER, Chief Ayo Opadokun, a South-West leader, who spoke to the on the current power imbalance, noted that the Yoruba race made a great mistake by not re-electing the former President,considering what he had in stock for the zone. He emphasised that the implementation of the National Conference report would elevate the standard of the zone, which is the reason people of the South-West should have queued behind Jonathan.
“Failure to do this needful may spell doom for the zone as their trust in their forged alliance with North would lead to regret. “Certainly, as the power structure is, there is the need for the Yoruba race to re-strategise on the way they would reassert themselves in the country’s politics and power equation,” Opadokun advised. Also lending his voice on the skewed power structure, image maker of Pro- National Conference, Wale Okunniyi, faulted the emergence of Saraki and Dogara, which he described as a conspiracy against the Yoruba nation by some powerful forces in the APC. He stated further that it was unfortunate that the South-West did not get the speakership of the House of Representative, as the region pushed forward Hon. Femi Gbajabiamila.He condemned Sen. Saraki and Hon. Dogara for not adhering strictly to the party’s position, stressing that the leadership of the Yoruba people need to redirect their plan for the region would benefit in the current state of the country politics. Okunniyi said, “What happened at the National Assembly was a conspiracy against Yoruba nation by some powerful forces in the APC. Although, we hold the Vice President position, we lost the speakership. This calls for total re-strategising by Yoruba leadership so that we can have our way in this current power structure.”However, a prominent South- West leader and lawyer, Asiwaju Bisi Adegbuyi, stressed that as for now the Yoruba race needs self-determination rather than a symbolic representation.
“Yoruba race should know what they want. Yoruba made progress when Chief Obafemi Awolowo led us.Also speaking to this paper, a PDP chieftain from the zone, Barrister Olayinka Sanni, put the blame on the selfish interest of Asiwaju Bola Tinubu. He said that Tinubu’s selfish interest was pushing the South-West backward.
According to him, “the system of leader takes- all that Tinubu used in Lagos politics gave the undue advantage to Bukola Saraki and Yakubu Dogara as Senate President and Speaker of the Federal House of Representatives. “He derives pleasure from cheating people in public. If they had not conducted the mock election, Femi Gbajabiamila would have won since it would have happened at the same time in both chambers,’’ he noted, adding that going by the trend of things, South-West might be forced to pressurise President Buhari to implement the part of the recommendation of the Confab which would be favorable to them. However, notwithstanding the current leadership positions in the National.Assembly, which the South-West complains about being relegated to the second fiddle, the zone clinched the position of Deputy Speaker Hon. Yusuf Lasun had in spite of the All Progressives Congress endorsement of his opponent Monguno Tahir, polled 203 votes to defeat Tahir, who had 153 votes. Mr. Lasun represents Irepodun, Olorunda, Osogbo Federal Constituency in Osun State. But according to analysts, with the victory of Bukola Saraki as the Senate President and Yakubu Dogara as the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the six geopolitical zones appear to have benefitted from power sharing. All the zones, North-West, North- East, North Central, South-West, South- East and South-South are adequately represented at the centre. While Senator Saraki hails from Kwara State, North Central zone, Rep. Dogara is from Bauchi State, North East Nigeria. The same for Deputy Senate President, Ike Ekweremadu, an indigene of Enugu State in the South-East zone. The Deputy Speaker of the House,Yusuf Lasun, is from Osun State in the South-West. President, Mohammed Buhari is from Katsina State, North-West zone while his deputy, Yemi Osinbajo, hails from Ogun State also in the South-West zone. The South-South is represented in the capacity of John Odigie Oyegun, National Chairman of the All Progressives Congress, APC, the ruling party


http://urhobotoday.com/?p=16831

bebe2:
Tnk u both sooo much, I never heard of the area
Even spelt it wrong.

Do u guys live around there?
Any chance of helping me go have a look at it?

I wish to buy it , and hope road networks improve some day.

bebe2:
pls how far is the place from the airport?

dayomide70:
Oga fastshipping, 200years ? I know you don't pray to be around at that age

mufutau55:
Soil test may decide/require that. And columns is not a bad thing for bungalows too anyway... suppose the client wants to put a parapet..

Hajji M.