Save them? Why would you want to save the future terrorists in training that are going to wage jihad against the south in coming years?


Spray them with agent orange and get rid of the weeds for good.

Before the 1900s, the most of the people in what is now South Nigeria were followers of native West African religions and North Nigeria was ruled by a jihadi Fulani Caliphate that controlled the largest number of human slaves on earth at the time (2 million people).

However, under British influence and political control, Nigeria was rapidly Christianised within decades. After Naija's independence in the 1960s, the South had become almost completely Christian.

Do not be fooled by naysayers: a LOT can change in a VERY short time. Right now the birth rate for Muslims in Europe is over twice that of native Europeans, and Muslims are expected to become roughly 20% of Western Europe's population by the year 2050. Specifically, this means that there will be entire cities and states where Muslims outnumber non-Muslims. Already there are huge ties between Muslim communities and crime (crime increases in Germany and Sweden, especially stealing murder and rape, have been shown to co-relate to an increase in immigrated and local born muslim population), and between Muslims and terrorism (I don't need to tell you this one). Some places in Europe are already danger zones for it's own citizens, infested by jihadists and violent gangs who push their shariah law and islamic values onto others who enter their little "pockets".


And this is in EUROPE, a place which has had practically ZERO muslims in modern years until the 1970s.


Compare NIGERIA, a country which is 50% Christian and 50% muslim, and where Muslims have higher birth rates and have religious Shariah, anti-secular law imposed in every state in which they gain a majority of the population. Sokoto is rising and Nigerians just ignore it, say "not all muslims" are like that.

LISTEN. Look at every country that has achieved a Muslim majority. Do you see what happens to the non-muslims? Look at what happened in ancient Iran, where are the Persian Zoroastrians now? The traditional buddhists of Pakistan, where are they now?

What happens to Egyptian Copts, Christian minorities in Muslim majority Egypt? They get attacked, abused, abducted, tortured.

What happens to Christian Iraqis and Syrians, and Yazidis? They get ethnically cleansed, raped and have their churches destroyed in acts of genocide by ISIS, and their muslim neighbours sold them out.


Nigeria is on a tipping point. In 50 years, Muslims Will be the overwhelming MAJORITY of Naijans, possibly over 70%. Nigeria will become like Egypt and Syria, where Christians and other non-muslims are a minority, where speaking against state and religion will become illegal under Shariah law.

Already I see Hausas getting scholarships to Saudi Arabia, the terrorist capitol of the planet, who's Salafi Islam is illogical, brainless and barbaric, and is the type of Islam practiced by ISIS and Al-Quaeda. The new generations are already under the grip of the brood of Mohammad.

If non-muslim Nigerians do not take action against islam NOW, this will be irrevertible. Non-Muslims will become the minority, Christian farmers will get their land stolen and their families slaughtered, Shariah Law will become rule of law in ALL of Naija. The Lagos Caliphate shall rise and destroy the future of humanity, education and progress Nigeria had wished for since it's independence. THIS IS FACT.

Co-existence with muslims is physically impossible. Muslim religion is inherently patriarchical, where women are forced to have natalistic roles where they are treated like dirt and made to pump out babies to increase the "Ummah" (muslim) population. In islam men can marry non-muslim women, which they then bully or coerce into becoming muslim through islamic patriarchy (this is known as "Love Jihad" in India). However, Muslim women are forbidden from marrying non-muslim men. The same thing does not exist with Christians, yet when there is discrimination the Muslims complain, because they know it threatens their biological dominance.

This creates a vacuum where over time, through breeding and through uneven marriage, the population gradually becomes more and more muslim and less and less Christian or Atheist. This has been used as a weapon by barbaric bronze age societies since ancient times, but it is only Islam in the modern era that practices it to such an insane extent. This is happening in Nigeria right now and unless measures are taken to stop Islam in it's tracks, there will be nothing but Muslims in Naija by 2100.

butterflyl1on:


[s]Aren't you also avoiding strong criticism of your atheism here?

If you say something does not exist this means you have somehow FOUND OUT that such does not exist (that is knowledge).

Show me this knowledge you acquire that proves the non existence of that thing. In other words prove to me that such does not exist.

Does it still confuse you? [/s]

And we're back to the cherrypicking and the wordplay again. You really aren't actually defending your belief in god against my criticisms as much as you are attacking the phraseology I employ. It's misleading and toxic.

There is no reason to believe a god exists in the same way that there is no reason that a magical green-suited sh!tfairy that is borne from the crap you flush down the toilet (and into this forum) exists.

There is no reason to presume that a God exists within the realm of peer-reviewed science and history, a collection of disciplines that can describe in accurate, intense mathematical detail the formation of an entire solar system over hundreds of millions of years, something that ancient humans who strongly believed in gods could not even conceptualise. What is even more damning, is that there is also massive evidence, both direct and circumstantial, within the disciplines of evolutionary biology, hypothetical xenobiology, biology, psychology, behavioural psychology, cosmology, classical and quantum physics, archaeology, theology, sociology, astronomy/cosmology, simple history, and pretty much every other natural science you can shake a finger at, spanning the history of the universe and the forces waves and particles that make it up, the evolution of life on earth and the first hominids (humanoids - ancestors/relatives of humans), the primate-origin human psyche and it's interaction with the environment, the development of human civilisations, the creation, spread and decline of various religions, to conclude that there is absolutely NO possible scenario where a magical superbeing exists, be it as direct as the god of the Quran or Bible or even an unknown, unnamed "sentience" behind the Big Bang.

Just look at how you have avoided my previous posts on this thread, like these:

Fegelfire:


It's not an irrational viewpoint actually, Mr. "Mujahid 777".

There is literally nothing that presupposes that the universe needed a "cause" to exist - indeed, current theories in debate amongst well established cosmological scientists with PhDs (not Imams with a Quran lodged in their skulls) include the possibility that there IS no end and beginning to space-time, and that the creation of our current universe came from the collapse of a previous universe (Google: Big Bounce). There is absolutely nothing to suggest that it was the work of a sentient creator being and absolutely and it's pretty much impossible for hypothetical creator being to be the god of the Quran from a rudimentary glance at anthropology and human history.

You are trying to apply hand-eye coordination hands-on rationality to the beginning of the fucking universe, and then postulate that a magic superbeing exists to compliment your preconceived theistic conclusions. That in itself is inherently irrational.

Fegelfire:
God is a human psychological concept. A part of some of our species' need to put a name and a face behind major events in history, sometimes to focus our emotions or directives onto, despite there no such face or name to begin with.

After a destructive earthquake in the bronze age, a village murders the local hermit woman because "someone must've done it".

After a long, thunderous, life-threatening storm in the Mediterranean, Greek sailors lay the blame of offending the Gods upon a crewmate because "someone must've done it".

People go to the mosque and head-bop the carpets in front of them, acknowledging "Allah" as the creator of everything, because "someone must've done it."

Atheism all begins when man begins to ponder thus: "maybe it didn't have to be someone who did it..."

...and have proceeded to jump through a series of endless mental hoops surrounding the "definitions" of words and phrases and "proving your disbelief in god", despite refusing respond to these assertations, or refusing to weigh your OWN belief of a magical superbeing against the evidence.

butterflyl1on:


I am yet to see a single atheist prove that God does not exist since they make bold to declare it why do they not also make bold to prove it?

Was that even English?

Anyways, the burden of proof is upon you. And you artfully avoided the question laden in my statement. It seems that you really can't defend your own beliefs.

butterflyl1on:
Yet they seek for proof from others for Gods existence which they already denied outright without providing their own proof for their denial and profound position.

This is some off the richter scale mental gymnastics sh!t.

It's logical to seek for evidence and proof of something before you believe that it exists. Are you daft? What is the reason for a belief in a magical superbeing being the creator of everything? Why does the universe necessitate such a being? Where is the evidence for this being? Where does this being exist? If not in our dimension, where? How would a primitive human come to this conclusion and know about this being? Why would a primitive, informationally noviced human being who's only understanding of the world would be the immediate experiences he or she had within the confines of his/her camp or village, and the tales of his/her elders, be able to come to the conclusion of the answer of such a scientifically intensive and important question - that the origins of the universe are from a magical sentient superbeing? Just think about it.

butterflyl1on:
Like someone has been saying here, atheism is beyond a disbelief. It's being triggered by other factors such as emotions, etc.

You are completely projecting here. I have seen your previous post history and you clearly avoid strong criticisms of your belief in god and instead opt for wordplay and mental gymnastics to defend the god you worship that isn't real.

butterflyl1on:
What indeed is atheism?

Atheism is the lack of belief in a God. It's as simple as that.

Empiree:
too late, buddy. Your forefathers said the same thing centuries ago. Here we are in 21st century, Islam wax strong every day, while your forefathers are 6 feets beneath the ground.

Kpele

Yes, here we are in the 21st century, after 500 years of complete Western Domination over the entire planet. The West has the highest living standards and greatest freedoms and equalities of any nation on planet earth, with some of the lowest rates of violent crime anywhere on earth. Four muslim nations have been completely and utterly destroyed and the leader of every major world power at this point, from the US to EU nations to Russia to Japan to Korea to China, despises Islam.

You're going to get a wake-up call one day. One day, you'll wake up and realise why it was us who conquered the planet and shot human technology and science into the modern age, and that Allah will not be there to save you.

I have yet to see a single person of an ascribed faith give a reasonable argument for why they believe the things they do. Muslims especially. Christians and Muslims love to hang on to "Infalsifiable" claims to protect their tattered pieces of faith, yet the actual reasons THEY give for why THEY believe are always weak and fallacious.

"The inhabitants of the earth are of two sorts: those with brains, but no religion, and those with religion, but no brains." - Abul Ala Al-Ma'arri.

God is a human psychological concept. A part of some of our species' need to put a name and a face behind major events in history, sometimes to focus our emotions or directives onto, despite there no such face or name to begin with.

After a destructive earthquake in the bronze age, a village murders the local hermit woman because "someone must've done it".

After a long, thunderous, life-threatening storm in the Mediterranean, Greek sailors lay the blame of offending the Gods upon a crewmate because "someone must've done it".

People go to the mosque and head-bop the carpets in front of them, acknowledging "Allah" as the creator of everything, because "someone must've done it."

Atheism all begins when man begins to ponder thus: "maybe it didn't have to be someone who did it..."

Atheism is simply the lack of belief in god. The only effects it has is the potential for people to question, rethink or refine religious dogma.


Islam, however...

Geofavor:
Buddhism is Theistic. They call their God Buddha.

Are you... mentally challenged? Do you not know how to google something or borrow an encyclopaedia from a local library?

Gautama Buddha was a man who lived in Eastern India around 2600 years ago, 600 years before Jesus and 1200 years before Mohammad. He did not claim to be the "son of god", nor did he claim to be a prophet. He merely began taught a practice and way of life that drew a compromise between the cruelty of Vedic practices (etc. caste systems) and the asceticism of East India (fasting, self-destruction, etc.).

Some Buddhists do believe in spirits and other such stuff, yes. But to call Buddhism "theistic" and that they see Gautama as "God" is straight nonsense.

mujahid777:
You gave a humanist definition of what morality should be and not an atheistic one.Atheism in itself has no concept of morality.
Believing in an uncaused universe is an irrational viewpoint,hence the necessity of God.

It's not an irrational viewpoint actually, Mr. "Mujahid 777".

There is literally nothing that presupposes that the universe needed a "cause" to exist - indeed, current theories in debate amongst well established cosmological scientists with PhDs (not Imams with a Quran lodged in their skulls) include the possibility that there IS no end and beginning to space-time, and that the creation of our current universe came from the collapse of a previous universe (Google: Big Bounce). There is absolutely nothing to suggest that it was the work of a sentient creator being and absolutely and it's pretty much impossible for hypothetical creator being to be the god of the Quran from a rudimentary glance at anthropology and human history.

You are trying to apply hand-eye coordination hands-on rationality to the beginning of the fucking universe, and then postulate that a magic superbeing exists to compliment your preconceived theistic conclusions. That in itself is inherently irrational.

It is a lie. It is the same "peace" the Roman historian Tacitus spoke of:

"They create a wasteland and call it peace"

A peace built on destruction, slaughter, domination and subjugation.

Stupid bastards. After you win the right for the hijab you'll just bully people who don't wear the hijab. We are on to your ways and how you overrun and overtake societies. Hopefully one day someone with good sense will forcibly sterilize you muslim scum so you can't breed and outnumber intelligent and civilised peoples, and Islam shall finally die out.