[size=20pt]Paddy Lo, could you please explain to this forum, and the world, why this road is costing N1 billion/km when the Federal Ministry of Works says it's figure for the Niger Delta and Lagos is N330m/km[/size]

[size=20pt]BABAPUPA[/size], I see you've taking on the title of DEFENDER OF FASHOLA.

Please answer this question:

[size=15pt]Why is the proposed new Ikorodu road project, less than 50km, going to cost N60 billion? This makes it more than N1b per kilometre, when Federal Ministry of Works awarded the East-West Road, in similar type of terrain (riverine, swamps and some hard land), for about N330m per kilometre
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[size=20pt]If this is not evidence of stealing by over-invoicing, I don't know what is!!![/size]

I have a question:

[size=20pt]How come this road, and the Lekki-Epe Expressway are so expensive N1bn+ per kilometre[/size]

The article posted says the road will cost N60b. The distance quoted cannot be more than 60km, if that. This means that this road will cost up to N1b per km. Federal Ministry of Works data says dual carriageways in Lagos should cost no more than N330m per km. An additional lane either side should therefore cost no more than about N150m per km, bringing the total for a 3 lane expressway to about N480m/km.

I did my calculations, and after allowing for the usual feeding fest that attends Nigerian contracts, came to about N300m/km for a dual carriageway road, which is not too far from the FMW's own figures. I'm at a loss to explain how Fash/Tinubu came about their billion naira per kilometre figures for these roads they're building, which, if the Lekki-Epe expressway is to be used as a template, do not even include any bridges of note!!

I fear we are being fleeced in the name of development.

[size=20pt]It will be interesting to see if they're planning to "concession" this one too, maybe to a Fashola-related company this time, since Tinubu now owns Lekki-Epe expressway for the next 30 years!![/size]

Do you know that for some reason, I forgot that Fashola was Tinubu's Chief-of-Staff for a good amount of his administration? I have been championing Fashola in complete ignorance all this time, forgetting that whatever went on in Tinubu's regime, he was part and parcel of!!!

Chaiiiiii!!!!!

Lagos State don SUFFER!!!

I can corroborate a good number of the allegations regarding land scams, particularly the one concerning 1500 hectares of prime beach front land purportedly given to the LCC people as Lagos State's contribution to the construction of the Lekki-Epe "toll" road. There is also the issue of 4 Queens/Oyinkan Abayomi Drive.

Eludoyin is the one fronting for Tinubu at the estate opposite Goshen Beach Estate near Lekki Phase I.

The New Era Foundation Youth Camp on Eleko Beach Road should also be looked into.

Fara Park Estate

Beechwood Estate

Royal Gardens Ajah

Bola Tinubu Diagnostic Centre in the LASUTH premises

The Critical Care Unit in LASUTH

I strongly suggest the Lagos Progressives should take a close look at all the above named projects and facilities. You will be shocked with what you'll find.

The sum of approximately N7.5 billion for a stake in the rail project, hmmm, !

[size=20pt]Y[b]et, Ashiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu is pocketing N9 billion of Lagos State Revenue per month through Alpha Beta Consulting, his tax "consultancy" firm which "collects" tax and revenue for Lagos State. This sum represents 50% of the N18 billion Lagos State is now reportedly making per month.[/b][/size]

i see this thread is beginning to slide in the direction of pointless arguments about the finer points of democratic governance.

In order that we do not lose focus, can we concentrate on the meat of the matter as espoused below by my humble self? Is it also possible for all the Tinubu defenders in here to respond to these "meats of the matter"?
[b]
Frankly, I think the "True Face of Lagos" guys are just a bunch of disgruntled party apparatchiks who have lost their usual feeding troughs in the Fashola administration.

The true meat of the matter is the WAY and MANNER the Lagos-Epe expressway expansion concession was granted, to whom it was granted and what Lagos State Government paid - over N22.5 billion - for the privilege of giving away a major arterial road for 30 years!!!
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The true meat of the matter is how Bola Ahmed Tinubu came to be the owner of:

1. 4 Oyinkan Abayomi Drive, Ikoyi.

2. The Lagos State Government Guest House in Abuja

The true meat of the matter is how Trojan Estates Ltd came into ownership of the 250 hectare Royal Gardens Estate, Ajah.

How Ocean and Oil Petroleum (Oando) was able to buy Agip with Lagos State Government funds

How that deal impacted upon who eventually became the Oba of Lagos.

How Oando was able to corner one half of the Gas distribution network concession for metropolitan Lagos (to be fair to them, they are actually performing, as opposed to Atiku's Gasland, which cornered the other half, comprising Lekki, Epe, Lagos Island, Victoria Island and Ikoyi)

These, amongst others are the real questions that the Government of Lagos State, and not necessarily the person of Babatunde Raji Fashola, need to address, and immediately too.

For Fashola, I understand his position, but a true man dies but once. Cowards die several times before their actual death. To use the fear of Tinubu as an excuse to turn a blind eye is to open yourself to allegations, possibly provable on the probability of guilt by association, of collusion in the BLEEDING of Lagos State by the self same Bola Ahmed Tinubu![/b]

I also propose that the Tinubu apologists here give us an answer to the following post:

lammie01:

How does 1500 hectares of prime land close to the sea fit in your arguement of private sector money? How does 3 toll gates on the road fit in your arguement that govt will cap the tolls? How does your your arguement that the govt will not leave its citizens at the mercy of LCC fit into the governor general Tinubu being the cairman of Hitech and olowalafe the chairman of LCC being Fasholas buddie.

Let the truth be told Govt and LCC are one and the same, Tinubu and Fashola are both govts currently and they are both involved in this scam as private sectors. We are no fools The Abuja scam is a scam , the lekki road is another scam , scam and scams everyday

Bearing in mind of course, the salient fact that Bola Ahmed Tinubu and Tunji Olowolafe are the Chairmen of HiTech Construction and Lekki Concession Company respectively, and the curious fact that the same Tunji Olowolafe is now the subject of the allegations made by "The True Face of Lagos" regarding favouritism by Fashola in the award of contracts state wide.

Inquiring minds want to know.

Rothstein:

@Felele, ikorodu is for the ijebus,most residents and indigenes of ikorodu are from ogun state.guy u fall my hand i was thinking u r from kosoko or bembe ruling house.pls get buzy with your low life.u cant even mention your family name,shaaaaammme to u.i know the real lagosian and u r not close at all. pls where was your father's birth certificate issued? fake lagosian.i can scan my great grand father birth certificate which we use for state schlarship for u to see. yeye guinea fowl

Agreed that Ikorodu is an Ijebu town. However, much in the same way as the Aworis migrated to Iddo(Ado) and then Eko, so did the migration to Ikorodu start with a man called Oga, hence the nickname, Ikorodu Oga. That migration took them from Egba, through Remo and on to Ikorodu. Along the way, many joined from many-a-town, with the result that as I was growing up in Ikorodu, I saw many aged people with the triple Owu marks, like the ones Obasanjo has, on their cheeks. Asking my grandfather later, I was told the story of how the settlement of Ikorodu began with Oga, the Egba soldier and his troops, several hundred years ago and that those people were their descendants who merely carried on a tradition they were born into, several generations later. Their Ijebu was flawless, and I think it's what is responsible for the Ikorodu dialect, which other Ijebus will swear is heavily diluted and is actually "Ijebu-Eko". The intermarriage and trade between Eko and Ikorodu may also be responsible for the audible differences between the Remo dialect (our nearest Ijebu neighbours) and the Ikorodu dialect, although they are not mutually unintelligible to one another.

So, you may be correct in asserting that Ikorodu indigenes can draw their roots from towns in present day Ogun state, but you must remember that not only have hundreds of years passed since, but they arrived at a VIRGIN territory, the nearest village being Igbogbo, and built up a new community with its own culture and institutions from scratch.

Can you say the same about the latter day Lagosians like Aganga, as opposed to Aganga-Williams, which is the family known to be Lagosian in origin, and to which Segun Aganga bears no relation?

olafolarin:

I really dont see a reason for this thread.lagos PDP claimed the guy is from Etsako in Edo state.
The guy himself havent said anything since his name was selected.But personally i have friends who are lagosians  and they bear aganga.They could be somehow related,

@ Felele, Take your real lagosian bullshit elsewhere.You are anyway from Ikorodu which from history makes you original indigene of Ogun state.You should be discussing with your ritualist governor Gbenga Daniel.
Segun aganga is here to stay , so live with it or do us all a favour, DROP DEAD.

Your stupidity is mind-blowing!! You are not from Lagos, quite obviously, or you would know that the inclusion of Ikorodu Division in the administrative Lagos State did not include the relocation of Ikorodu from its original location. What am I saying? That Lagos State as an administrative expression is a merger of the former capital territory of Lagos town, with the outlying Ijebu and Awori territories with whom Lagos Islanders already share an affinity stemming from hundreds of years of trade and inter-marriage.

In your haste to pour vitriol on me, you failed to apply a little industry and read up on the history of Lagos from the point of view of Lagosians. Do you have any idea why Ebute Ero (that is, if you even know where that is) is called Ebute Ero Do you have any idea which Yoruba sub-group forms the majority of textile traders (aso-ebi traders) on the Island and where they mainly come from? Do you know why Are you aware of the Ikorodu v Egba war of the 19th century? Do you know what was its cause??

Virtually every Ikorodu family has an outpost/family home on Lagos Island, and another satelitte home on the Jibowu/Ilupeju/Palmgrove/Maryland axis. Heck, in some families, the line between Lagos Island roots and Ikorodu roots is a very thin blur, so you coming here and chatting RUBBISH about Ogun state clearly do not have the faintest idea what you're talking about.

Lagos State for Lagosians, the rest of you, go and ask yourselves what you're doing to help your state of origin and what your "Governnors" are doing with your federal allocations. Don't poke your unwelcome noses into what doesn't concern you. Start packing, if your intention is to become involved in the administration of Lagos State.

006:

^^

Good, you'll be the next Oba of Lagos.

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Kobojunkie, there's another clue for you right there.

Kobojunkie:

What family would that be?

kobojunkie, my sister, after having given you those clues about honesty and industry, I fully expect you to not only know my family, but know who I am. We are especially known for industry.

Katsumoto:

My point was directed at those who sing the usual chorus of Lagos was developed by the Federal Government. I was merely attempting to inform them that the only part of Lagos developed by the Federal Government was Lagos Island. The remaining parts of Lagos was developed firstly, by the Western Government and Lagos indigenes and then secondly. by the Lagos State Government from 1967 and to some extent, commercial bodies. The development by commercial bodies should not however, be exaggerated.

I don't know why you used the expression trite. Those parts were indeed part of the Western Region until 1967.

Sorry, I meant to use the word "apt". We are actually on the same page on this. You are indeed right that only Lagos Island (even at that, only some parts thereof), was developed by the Federal Government. They cannot claim to have developed Idumagbo Avenue, Reclamation road, Enu Owa, Oroyinyin, Oko Awo and many such others, yet these are all on the same Lagos Island claimed to have been developed by the Federal Government.

Lagos has indigenes, and Aganga is not one of us. Jonathan has breached the constitution.

006:

@ felele, Are you a lagosian?

Rothstein:

@felele, where are u from in lagos. your family lineage pls?>

Yes, in fact I am a Lagosian and proud of it. From Ikorodu. I am from an illustrious family in Ikorodu, noted for honesty and industry.

KnowAll:

Please stop this 'Lagos is no man's land' nonsense. Lagos belongs to the indigenes of Lagos. For those that say that Lagos was developed with federal money, the only part of Lagos developed by the federal government was Lagos Island. The [b]other parts of Lagos such as Ikeja, Shomolu, Surulere, Mushin, Ilupeju, etc were part of the Western region before they were merged with L[/b]agos Island to form Lagos State by Gowon in 1967. As long as you can still trace your way to your father's village, then you have no rights to any positions that are available to the indigenous people of Lagos.
By the way, I am not from Lagos but I was born and bred in Lagos. Mo kin se omo ale, mo mo ile baba mi.


And Aganga was part of that western state up to 1963. Part of his commonwealth was used to develop lagos state, he was born there, he can speak the lingo fluently, so why exclude him. AC propanganda.

What commonwealth exactly was that? He is not an indigene, full stop! I as a Lagosian, even though I have distant roots, through my paternal great great grandmother, in Ogun State, cannot go back there to claim any sort of rights, as my people settled Ikorodu (in yoruba, awa la te e do), and are part of the custodians of the culture and heritage of that town. The achievements of my forebears and myself in the area of development without government "assistance" are as yet unmatched in the history of Nigeria.

It is somewhat trite that Katsumoto should refer to Ikeja, Shomolu, Ilupeju and other parts of the mainland as part of the Western Region. What you might not know is that the entire Ikorodu Road axis, from Ikorodu to Yaba was opened up DIRECTLY by indigenes of Ikorodu and other Ijebus, who contributed their hard earned money to construct what we now know as Ikorodu road, when the colonialists told them point blank that they were not here to develop our country, following a boat mishap that killed over 200 Ikorodu and other Ijebu businessmen and women, while crossing to Ebute Ero from Ebute Ipakodo on "Oko Owolowo" in the 1940s.

That is a bit of History that your likes and the likes of Aganga do not know, are not privy to and will never understand about Lagos State and its indigenous peoples. We are self-starters, always have been, always will be, and NEVER needed the help of any government to develop us to where we feel we need to be. If anything, it has been interference from incompetent outsiders like Tinubu (we will soon start construction of coastal road and 4th mainland bridge, and btw, the federal government withholding less than 5% of the total revenue accruable to Lagos state is responsible for the lack of development for eight solid years) and  Oyinlola (no bitumen) that has actually contributed to our under-development.

Aganga is not a Lagosian, and Lagos is not presently represented in the Executive Council of the Federation, a clear breach of Section 147(3) of the constitution. If you guys are saying we are not part of Nigeria, you better start packing your bags.

Biina, I have to say that I have grudging respect for you, because even though we disagree on one or two issues, it has always been on the issues and nothing more.

This idea that someone can be imposed on a state smacks of military fiat. This is supposed to be a democracy, where REPRESENTATION is the main principle. I cannot be represented by an outsider at the federal level.

Perhaps one day, the president might see fit to appoint Mike Adenuga into a federal position on Abuja or Lagos' slot.

kuramo:

Felele,

You have shown yourself to be a foul mouthed, badly educated upstart who must learn to be deferential to his superiors and i must tell you that most of your comments on the Aganga issue reveal someone with the intellect of a Lagos Area Boy.

You come across as thug who sees nothing wrong with making an ugly threat against a fellow NL contributor who appears to criticize your mentor Senator Obanikoro , the thing is your pugnacious attitude will not get you far.

You hide behind an internet cafe PC claiming to pay your phantom employees on average over $300,000 per annum whilst chiding someone by posting that you '' didnt realise you have been wasting your time yarning with someone  who is still an employee whose wildest dreams consists of earning a $500,00 salary'', such a comment only reinforces the impression that you a fantasist living in cloud cuckoo land.

I will not be wasting any more of my time with you but to conclude that you are a sad case whose only claim to a rightful existence appears to be an accident of birth as a Lagos indigene. You need to get a life and think beyond your narrow mind, there is a world out there bigger than Lagos.  By the way i will not give you the pleasure of letting you know whether i am a Lagos indigene or not.

I'm sure that when the Americans fought to get the British off their land and off their backs, the British wisdom then was that they were just thugs and upstarts.

I am not being aggressive towards anyone on behalf of Koro or anyone else. I will however fight to the DEATH, anyone who thinks he can insult the memories of my ancestors by trying to even make believe that I do not exist. That is what those who are attempting to claim that Lagos is some kind of no man's land are doing. Even worse are the ones who will now try to claim that they are indigenes of Lagos when they clearly are not, and their whole claim is based on their having been born in Lagos and or growing up here. There is a reason why the constitution refers to Nigerians in some sections as citizens, and refers to them in other sections as "indigenes".

For your edification, we are not going to stand for this usurpation, which no Nigerians in other states will stand for either anymore, so expect to start seeing overt action from indigenes of Lagos to right the wrongs of the past and put an end to these attempts to regard us as non-persons. If you refuse to acknowledge us and accord us our constitutional rights, then as the Lord Lives, we will take that acknowledgements and our rights BY FORCE, if that it what it has to come to. And may the best man, woman or child win.

As for your puerile attempts to diminish my financial status in an online diatribe, I will just say, keep trying. You have NO IDEA.

Finally, Mr. Kuramo, your online moniker provides quite an insight into the kind of person YOU might be in real life. I cannot think for the life of me why I might in the faintest be interested in your indigeneship of Lagos or otherwise. You are clearly not, since you can treat the matter at hand in such a blase manner. The world out there , been there, done that, got the paper and cohones to prove it. Can you say the same of yourself

FACT: I DO actually have employees in Lagos and in the UK that I pay salaries that will clearly be beyond YOUR wildest dreams, if you think $300k pa is fantasist. Some here online know who I am, and they can confirm this. As I said in my post to Katsumoto, I do not intend to boast, but if Aganga's salary is the reason some think he's qualified to take the Lagos State slot, even though he's not an indigene of Lagos State, I needed to point out those facts to demonstrate that that in of itself is no reason to rob from Lagos.

There are indigenes of Lagos worldwide and here in Lagos who earn more than that and are more than just one out of 1500 managing directors in one of the banks known to be conspiring against countries like Greece and possibly Nigeria.

Rothstein:

Thanks guyz,we need to put people like Felele in their place cos he is tribalistic and anti nigeria.what more does he want from the govt.Aganga was raised in lag and has a powerful resume which felele's godfather-Obanikoro-doesn't.felele is an impostor from ibadan claimin lagos.we can help you get a job with Aganga.

My guy, YOU and these nincompoops want to put ME in my "place"? HA HA HA!!!! I laugh in Ijebu!!!

Ee o tii po to!!!! There are not enough of you, actually!!!

This your bottom-feeding ignorance and longer-throat that sees you trying to claim what you're not is going to be the end of you and your foreigner gang in Lagos. When the rest of the states in Nigeria agree that an Egun indigene of Lagos, born and bred in say, Abakaliki, can be nominated to take Ebonyi State's ministerial slot, as against a proper Ebonyi indigene, you can all come to Lagos and claim indigeneship.

All we LAGOSIANS are saying is, you cannot come here to take from us what you HAVE NEVER given to us.

I like Aganga's qualifications actually, and I think he's probably qualified to be nominated as a minister, but I insist, as do other Lagosians, that not only is he NOT an indigene of Lagos, as spelt out in the Constitution, but he may actually be MEDIOCRE, by LAGOS' indigenous people's standard. We have the Agustos, the Faramobis and several thousand other indigenes of Lagos in executive positions in similar banks worldwide.

Moreover, his performance at the Senate clearing session was quite suspect. I find it quite unnerving that someone who may get the nod for Finance Minister of the Federation may actually be comfortable with any type of debt, considering our not too distant financial history as a nation.

To all those of you trying to label me as some kind of loony, I wish you well. But you must prepare for the backlash that this is generating among indigenous peoples of Lagos State. This attempt by some Nigerians to wish our existence away and take our territory, will only lead to a violent reaction amongst our people, and may hasten the disintegration of Nigeria to a date earlier than that famously predicted by the American authorities.

beystwin:

A person is indigenous to where he or she was born. period.

If that is what you REALLY believe, then you are a bigger fool than I thought.

Why not just give the ministerial position of Kaduna state to Gen. Ike Nwachukwu then, since he was born and brought up there, and see what the indigenous people of Kaduna State might have to say about that. FOOL!!

4peace:

felele ko akara ni
Do you think jonathan just pick him like that without the consent of cabal in lagos.
Pls how did 1999 constitution defines indigene.

What cabal might that be, since you seem to know them? Inquiring minds need to know.

As per what the constitution says, you're so bloody lazy you can't read? READ THE DAMN THING YOURSELF AND REACH YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.

By the way, just by way of guidance, the constitution makes reference to Citizens, and in other areas, especially Section 147 (3), it makes reference to Indigenes. Could you educate us all as to what the intention of the drafters of the constitution might be in making that verbal distinction, o great one

beystwin:

@ topic I laugh in Edo, EKO?

You laugh in abject ignorance! Read up on the history of Lagos, with particular reference to Ologun Kutere. Ode, oponu ayirada. A Yoruba proverb says: Eni ti o ba fe je ije ku'je l'o ma pa itan ki'tan. Awon omo ti ko ni iran oshi!!!

Aren't you proud to be from the "great" Edo/bini empire anymore Must you claim Lagos by force God punish you and your descendants for this rubbish you're all trying to perpetrate,

ladi02:

You nor get sense!

Your papa and your whole family no get sense. Na dog go chop your brains, you this yeye fecal matter.

nex:

This man is thanking God that Nigeria is borrowing huge sums of money from abroad. Just wonder about what our foreign debt will become if he is made the Minister of Finance.


He's from Goldman Sachs, the bank that engineered the financial crisis in Greece which the entire European has found itself incapable to solve.


I welcome him. With the likes of Anenih, Dora, Yar'Adua, I really see no reason why not.

Like I pointed out in another post, Lagosians, not by any particular unique trait, but because it has always been part of our culture of openess, have always been pioneering spirits in all spheres of life.

This man is CLEARLY NO LAGOSIAN, as there is no indigenous family in Lagos State that will instinctively welcome the acquisition of debt. It is totally antithetical to what LAGOSIANS stand for in the area of personal and public finance. "Omo o ni ba gbese e ni ile" is actually a Lagos Yoruba proverb.

To the non-indigenous Lagosians who are trying to claim Lagos as their own, I suggest you go and find your own Awojobis, Gbadamosis, Sapara-Williamses, Folamis, Agustos, Obanikoros, and other champions of various spheres of life to help you develop your own locales as we have done. Like another person pointed out, you guys are just like Latinos in the US, and at no time was that made more obvious than during the last census, when we witnessed a mass exodus of Igbos from Lagos to their home states to be counted!!!!

You cannot eat your cake and have it. We are taking back our state from you lot, piece by piece, plot by plot. You all had better start working hard on developing your states, so that you can have something to fall back on when you are COMPELLED by prevailing circumstances to leave Lagos for the LAGOSIANS.

We have always been friendly, hospitable and all, but all that is now turning around to bite us in the ass. Well, it's only for a while. WE ARE LAGOSIANS, proud of it and we are now DETERMINED to claim back our state AT ALL LEVELS.

kawazaki:


Hey Mr Man, wakeup. Tell me to show you some Lagos State indegene is and I would point Mr. Ben Akabueze and Mr Joe Igbokwe.

These are Lagosian of the 21st century. Grow up and realise that Lagos is a cosmopolitan, multi-ethnic society. Yeah there are some original indegenes from Epe, Ikorodu, Badagary,Lagos Island but they are are just like the native Indians in the US now.

This is exactly how NIgeria will work. So, AGANGA is a Bonafide citizen of Lagos State.

It is you, Igbokwe and Akabueze who will need to wake up very shortly.

Both these guys were not appointed by Lagosians, but by another non-Lagosian usurper, Bola Ahmed Tinubu, to aid him in the looting of Lagos and the emasculation of Lagos State indigenes. I hope you will be able to recognise it for what it is when the coming conflagaration begins to consume you and your ilk.

Tippy Top:


Why should he go to Edo?
Is Mr. Olusegun Olutoyin Aganga a Yoruba man or felele drank too much.

He should go to Edo because he is indigenous to Edo, and that would satisfy the requirements of Section 147 (3) of the Constitution.

Mr. Olusegun Olutoyin Aganga may well be a Yoruba man, going by the evidence presented starkly by his name. However, this alone does not confer indigeneship of Lagos State upon him. The last time "powers-that-be" foisted a non-Lagosian upon us in Lagos, we ended up with Bola Tinubu's eight years of drift.

Regarding your last question:

NA YOUR PAPA "drank too much", you numbskull!! Why can't you engage in meaningful conversation without giving in to the urge to descend into your normal place of residence, the gutter

I don't know those advising Jonathan, but he needs to read Section 147(3) of the Constitution, which makes reference to the principle of 1 minister per state, and states they must be INDIGENES of the state.

In my book, an indigene is not just someone who was born and/or brought up in a state. They must have CULTURAL TIES to that state. If they do not, then they cannot be an indigene.

There is a reason why that word was used in the constitution, and not the word "citizen".

Jonathan is excluding Lagos State from the affairs of Nigeria, and should not complain when the sh.it hits the fan during his tenure.#

The predicted break-up of Nigeria may actually come about from the most unexpected source.

AGANGA IS NOT A LAGOSIAN. Appoint him from Edo state, the state of which he's an indigene.

dayokanu:

pcicero,

wetin u dey yarn?

Do you have any brain cells left in that your coconut head? Can you not read, or is your comprehension deficit issue so pronounced that you cannot understand that what we Lagosians are saying is that others are welcome to join us in Lagos, to live, trade and do business, but not to TAKE bleeping OVER!!!!

You people are stirring a hornet's nest, and you will not like the results. There will be a serious backlash, because some of you are clearly overstaying your welcome in Lagos.

You are encouraging a dangerous precedent, an open and reckless breach of the constitution. We will soon start our own. Watch and learn.

If this is impressive to some people, I shudder for Nigeria.

Apart from the fact that I am deeply opposed to Aganga being nominated on Lagos State's slot (he should go to Edo), I am shocked at these sort of irresponsible utterances emanating from him, in a country where "leaders" have a known predilection for running up odious debts and looting same.

He is UTTERLY IRRESPONSIBLE and appears to have come home just to join the feeding frenzy.

WE STILL HAVE NO MINISTERIAL NOMINEE INDIGENOUS TO LAGOS STATE. THIS IS A CLEAR BREACH OF SECTION 147(3) OF THE CONSTITUTION!! JONATHAN, TAKE NOTE!!

@katsumoto: I did not intend to boast, but if it came across like that, I apologise to anyone who feels offended by it. Moreover, I do not seek to devalue the Herculean achievements of Mr. Aganga, but it does rankle that some people can feel that Aganga is uniquely qualified to the point that the constitutional entitlements of probably more qualified ethnic Lagosians/yorubas can be overlooked simply because he is one of 1500 Managing Directors at the very prestigious Goldman Sachs.

If we can make this much noise about Aganga, what would you then say about people like Deji Alli or Bayo Ogunlesi??

Let Aganga be appointed from Edo State. As someone pointed out, he didn't even school in Lagos State, so what is his claim to Lagos indigeneship exactly, just accident of birth

SEFAGO:

If Massa is paying you $300,000+ per annum before bonuses then who cares ? Be misyarning there, you earn that type of salaray? And you are spending time on NL- thank God for anonymity. He has over 15 year of experience as an acoountant in Ernst & Young which is also noteworthy. There is nothing wrong with working for people- I hear this a lot on NL people claiming they are going to start a business/started a business and disparaging those who work for companies.

mind you, it is likely that Aganga sits/ or in the future would sit on top of the board of directors of several major companies. Be enterprising with garri there, instead of thinking how your salary would clock close to 500,000 dollars like Aganga

Salary Moi? You're way out of your league, boy, I pay my staff more than that, and that's the ones here in Lagos.

No wonder!!! I've been discussing with an employee. A non-indigene of Lagos,

Is that all Aganga earns at Goldman Sachs?? Just $0.5 million? Chai!! We don suffer for Lagos!!!

My friend, go and sit in that corner over there. Bigger boys are talking here. Lagosians are talking. Yeye dey smell.

In fact, you have just messed my day up, by revealing to me that I've been wasting my time yarning with someone who is still an EMPLOYEE, whose wildest dreams consist of earning a $500,000 salary. Na wa o!

Aganga is most definitely not a Lagosian and should not take our slot. Let them appoint him from your state, if you're so enamoured of his measly $500,000 salary. Nonsense!!!

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SEFAGO:

LOL, you should try and get a job at Goldman Sachs lets see if they would offer you an entry level position. Being a managing director is really hard.

However, its also not a superworthy achievement maybe except for someone who is black- its probably rare to find an minority in the top echelons of GS and most of them have phenomenal records.

Actually, some of us do not NEED the approval of massa at Goldman Sachs or wherever else to validate our existence or our success, financial and otherwise for that matter. For your information, the likes of Aganga and his 1499 co-Managing Directors will be privileged to achieve what some of us have achieved in life with probably half the education and opportunities they have had in life.

If you need a job at Goldman Sachs to validate your excellence, please, feel free to apply for a job there.

Thank God for free enterprise. Some people just have to suck up, don't they

kuramo:

For anyone to attempt disparaging the success of Mr Segun Aganga by describing him as ''ONLY ONE OF 1500 MANAGING DIRECTORS AT GOLDMINE SACHS'' shows the lack of exposure of that individual.

Only a narrow minded and ill educated bigot would even suggest that a well qualified technocrat like Mr Aganga who was born and bred in Lagos should represent the birthplace of his parents instead of Lagos.

I am getting fed up with these so called Lagos indegenes who scrounge off the hard work of all Lagos citizens and residents whose ethnic origin may be Yoruba, Igbo , Bini or even Hausa.

The time has come to stop this nonsense.

HOW DARE YOU??!!!!

How dare you presume to refer to me as a bigot How dare you even infer that I tried to in any way disparage the success of Mr. Aganga

Are you really that daft?? My friend, GOOGLE is your friend. Just google Aganga, and the GLARING FACT that I so helpfully provided to your ignorant likes will spring out of your screen and slap your stupidity out of you.

HE IS JUST ONE OUT OF 15OO GOLDMAN SACHS MANAGING DIRECTORS WORLDWIDE. CONTRADICT THAT FACT IF YOU CAN, YOU NUMPTY!!!

Now, as to the issue of indigenes of Lagos who "scrounge off" the hard work of who? Are you really this retarded, or you can't read the bloody constitution, which most of the public officers who are in power now swore to uphold Were they blind and as stupid and retarded as you when they were making that oath

My friend, Eko o ni gba igba ku'gba mo!!!!

Lagosians are the most hardworking people in the country. If they were not, the Portuguese, and the British after them, and the rest of the Nigeria after them would not come here to initially trade, then live and work here, with the hope of someday (this applies to fellow Nigerians) achieving their lives' dreams. Why did the British not keep their capital in Port Harcourt, another city with the same natural endowments as Lagos?? Or Calabar for that matter Why Lagos??

I'll tell you why, you sorry excuse for a Lagosian, its enterprise, stupid. Enterprise. The first indigenous industrialist in Nigeria was an indigene of Lagos. The first Nigerian lawyer was a Lagosian. The first Architect in Nigeria is an indigene of Lagos State, the first female to bag a master's degree in Law is an indigene of Lagos State, the first indigenously owned INDUSTRY in Nigeria was sited in LAGOS STATE AND OWNED BY A LAGOSIAN. The first trunk A road in Nigeria was built in Lagos by Lagosians and their Ijebu cousins. Should I stop, or carry on And if you can, do try to contradict these facts and try not to lose your last few brain cells while you're attempting it.

My friend, whether you like it or not, Lagos State has indigenes, and your likes will be rooted out by affirmative actions we're going to begin taking very shortly. Some of y'all have actually overstayed your welcome. We allowed you lot to join us, now you're telling us to leave our own town for you? Forget it mate. It's all come to a grinding halt. No non-Lagosian will be allowed to hold political office in Lagos from now on, because none of you will allow us that priviledge in your states. Just BE F.UC.KIN.G HONEST FOR ONCE IN YOUR MISERABLE LIFE ABOUT THAT, YOU INGRATE!!!

What qualified the last minister of Finance for his position in your opinion Is it better to have driven individuals in charge, than have "qualified" individuals with no drive of any sort

I think our experience with the likes of Kema Chikwe in the Ministry of Transport, El-Rufai at BPE, the late Mahmud Waziri at NIPOST and countless other "unqualified" individuals will let me fall on the side of driven and self-motivated individuals.

My own experience as an employer of Labour suggests to me that you need only a basic education, to degree level if possible, even a good O Level education, and BAGS of drive, ambition, honesty and self-motivation are all you need to succeed in most ministerial type positions.

After all, we had Aondoakaa, didn't we??