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Feraz: A quick question - if Naruto empowered the alliance again with the kyuubi's chakra albeit stronger, do you think Kakashi will be empowered likewise in that other dimension bearing in mind that he was given chakra before being taken inside? |
kimco: poor analogy ma guy. The 2nd tsukiyomi didn't connect with the real kakashi.real or not, it's the same thing we're saying. It didn't work simple. A technique doesn't work twice because Kakashi isn't stupid to let you use it again on him. Even Itachi was fooled into believing that he was actually casting Kakashi into a genjutsu until he discovered that it was a clone. Mid difficulty? Wow! You really are underestimating Kakashi. You said array of jutsu doesn't equal win. I agree with that neither did I say it was going to be useless. I'll give you an example. When they wanted to fight Kakuzu and Hidan that Chouji used his meat ball technique on Kakuzu which didn't scratch his body, what saved Kakuzu? His earth technique. While Kakashi watched above, he recognised the handseal (which I can say he must have fought someone who used similar technique). Didn't that help him? If not for the fact that Kakuzu had some hearts remaining to use, he'd have been a goner. So in essence, no matter how you put it, Kakashi must see a technique which he'll use to counter Kisame. |
A quick question - if Naruto empowered the alliance again with the kyuubi's chakra albeit stronger, do you think Kakashi will be empowered likewise in that other dimension bearing in mind that he was given chakra before being taken inside? |
kimco: i meant kisame is stronger...than kakashi (he is, unless u can prove otherwise) and he's also smart not as stupid as u want him to be...not saying he's smarter.good you implied not smarter cos I was thinking that was what you meant. For your proof, when I get the facts, I'll do so but for now, I have limited resources with me here. For the apologies, no problem ![]() |
ledafaze: I was surprised with the way he talks here... even more active than on Religion section lolz Feraz: Gbam...plenty likeswhere went thou Brisingr? Wackyj1, next2beeze, where are y'all? |
Summary of my posts on this argument so far: 1. Will Itachi defeat Kakashi? Yes! As seen in their first battle. 2. Will tsukuyomi work again on Kakashi? No! Reason being that a technique doesn't work on Kakashi twice (as can be seen when he was first imprisoned with the water prison jutsu Zabuza used of which Zabuza tried using it again but failed. Also, when Itachi used tsukuyomi on Kakashi first at their first encounter, it worked. The second time, it didn't as seen during their small battle while going to save Gaara.) 3. Will Kisame win Kakashi? No! Reason being from my point of view, Kakashi has so many array of jutsus from the hidden mist which he got from his previous battles with Zabuza and so many other shinobis he fought. (even Kisame was shocked at the level of jutsus and skills he used and displayed in their first encounter with him) |
Brisingr: A Pastor spreading peace with talk no jutsu.Gbam...plenty likes |
kimco: Not true...the tym he fought the 30% itachi he specifically said not to look into his eyes, that was for a reason. He may not fall for it again, however if he did...he cud be a goner.was he talking to Kakashi or was Kakashi talking to Naruto? Even Chiyo said something about fighting the sharingan without looking at the eyes. That was when Itachi showed he could cast genjutsu by mere finger pointing and Naruto happened to be caught. You even said tsukuyomi is tsukuyomi and we know Itachi's genjutsu is called tsukuyomi so what makes that genjutsu different from others even when we know it was 30%? |
Tosyn007: Doesn't matter, Itachi is a Don, and when it comes to fighting, his analytical skills are top notch. His genjutsus against Sasuke are the weaker versions cos he never meant to kill Sasuke.I'm done arguing this point since y'all believe that the almighty tsukuyomi will still affect Kakashi meanwhile we saw in the manga and anime where Itachi tried using it again while Kakashi, Naruto and co were going to save Gaara and noticed it wasn't working. Yet, Itachi is a don. It's funny how we take info that suits us even when facts are provided. kimco: hasn't stopped him from being a.s.s whooped by stronger opponents a la kakuzu et pain. his analytical prowess doesn't make him invincible otherwise shikaku would be king. Kisame is jux stronger and intelligent as well.Kisame, more intelligent and stronger than Kakashi? Wow! And when was it stated that his analytical skills make him invincible? We even saw the backup plan he had if Shikamaru hadn't acted fast. P.S: you're taking this thing too personal. We all come here, argue to catch fun, learn, explain chapters and battles to people who don't understand and bring our own theories. |
ikekings: I'm through with noblesse... I need suggestions... Any oda interesting manga? Not the lovey dovey type...How you see am? ![]() |
From the manga out today, I can categorically state that most stupid people or those with high level of idiocy are very strong. Can we also say the sage was someone who was also stupid ![]() Now, Kyuubi and sage mode enhanced with each other. Makes sense if one compliments the other. For Tobirama to acknowledge you, it means you must be good and Naruto has shown that he is someone that doesn't need protection anymore. Now, it is three against one inside the barrier and from what I can see, can I say that the 'project tsuki no me' may start from Naruto and co. Sasuke looks like he's gonna betray them on the battlefield by switching sides due to Naruto being strong and I see Sai being prepared. Orochimaru must have had a plan to have influenced Sasuke to go to the battlefield |
[quote author=SIR cum a lot]I maybe wrong but what is kamui technique about ? Transferring somebody to a pocket dimension and am saying itachi did this to kakashi during that arc he returned to konoha with kisame I remember hin saying something like time is slower their or something.[/quote]1. Kakashi had his MS but he hasn't started using it. 2. Itachi said when you're under his genjutsu being tsukuyomi, he controls time. Itachi didn't transfer Kakashi to any dimension. All he did was manipulate time while Kakashi was under genjutsu from my understanding of the above |
^^^Na wa oh ![]() The example I'll give you is that of Zabuza and Itachi. Watch the rematch and see if Kakashi was caught in that same technique again. Even Itachi said every technique has a weakness and y'all think tsukuyomi doesn't have a weakness? |
Tosyn007: It appears you guys are comparing the Itachi that fought Sasuke to KakashiHow? I'm only saying that any technique used on Kakashi once and caught will never work again in a rematch. |
![]() Baddestguyp: Someone asked y obito wasnt using the rinnegan's abilities. Let me answer that. In the anime, kakashi himself analysed dat obito wasnt using the rinnegan's abilities cos it would take a lot of chakra. Even obito admitted kakashi was correct. Obito has lots of chakra bt dont 4get he had to control the tailed beasts nd now the 10 tails. He couldnt waste it on kakashi cos the 10 tails was too strong nd would take a lot of chakra to suppress. Edo tensei madara could use rinnegan's abilities cos of infinite chakraThat is to say in conclusion, that only Uzumakis have the chakra reserve to use the rinnegan if transplanted and that the sage must be Uzumaki ![]() |
Baddestguyp: We underestimate kakashi, jiraiya nd orochimaru a lot on this thread. Naruto defeated pain becos of 2 things 1) he knew their abilities 2) the strongest pain couldnt use his powers until afta the others were crushed. Not my 2nd point. Jiraiya fought pein without those 2 advantages dats why he lost. The same with kakashi. I believe if kakashi had fought with pein in the same condition as naruto nd wit enough chakra he would defeat the 5 peins, only chibaku tensei was a problem, bt we all saw kakashi ALMOST defeat dat pein b4 that robot guy interrupted.The problem with Pain is that he doesn't analyze most battles before going into them. Imagine Pain growing up in Konoha. |
rapmike: Sori,wia did u get d gist dat genjutsu does nt work on MS guys, FYI it works,only dat u may break 4rm it easily. U want proof? Check sasuke fight wit d raikage,shee used genjutsu 2 blind both sasuke and juugo of wich sasuke did nt break out in time 2 defend himself against darui and A attack bt suigestu used his sword as a barrier. Then he and itachi(both MS users wit sasuke in EMS) wia caught in kabuto's genjutsu wich they broke by casting genjutsus on each oda. So genjutst stil works and itachi who can cast genjutsu wit his fingers can reali deal wit kakashi wit dat. Besides itachi has crow clones wich can deceive any1 and know izanagi and izanami very wel,so dnt go betting dat kakashi's kamui can do everitinTsukuyomi will never work again on Kakashi. As far as Itachi has used it before to get Kakashi, he can'tuse it again. |
Ihedinobi, I see you. What's your take on all these arguments here? |
kimco: It doesn't wrk like that guy. Kisame thrives on chakra...the more chakra u have...the more powerful he is. He'll drain u dry. However guy's techniques aren't chakra based. That why he was able to beat kisame. Kakashi's techniques are chakra based. He'll be drained dry if he doesn't come up witha gud plan to counter. He can't jux kamui his way out...he risks possible counter where he might be too weak to defend himself.This is what I'm aying. Kakashi won't just go into battle like that without analyzing his opponent cos he works in tandem with his chakra level. He always has a backup plan. Kakashi is another person that doesn't believe in using his dojutsu to win battles. He is very analytical. [quote author=SIR cum a lot]Y'all no that kakashi himself is starving to death inside that pocket dimension and I don't think kamui will work on Itachi he can use those pocket dimension, even used it on kakashi in the earlier episodes.[/quote]Hope you remember that after he got the kyuubi's chakra, he had enough chakra to transport things very large to any dimension he wants. He also transported Naruto's clone to Obito's own dimension |
rapmike: Nah, its itachi we underestimate,nt k-man. I mean k-man is nt as smart as shikamaru/shikaku and being uchiha does nt mean, if it meant den itachi/obito combo should nt hav wipd out dat clan, itachi is anoda class entirely above k-man, itachi dat we cnt conclusively decide dat nagato wil beat him if alive and wel is who kakashi wil beat if he is uchiha, Please talk smting elseY'all actually think I underestimate Itachi? Check through my posts here, you'll see I regard Itachi as one of the best young shinobis. Itachi is a freaking genius no doubt that can take on S-classed shinobis without sweat. Now, I'm not saying Kakashi will beat Itachi at his current stage. You guys also forget that you can't use a technique twice on Kakashi. I'm an Itachi fan but when I see people that will floor Itachi, I'll say so. Kakashi will win Itachi if he is an Uchiha. Now, to Kisame, you actually think Kisame will win Kakashi? Kisame that couldn't beat Ibiki as at then till he had Sameheda. Kakashi will win Kisame wellllll. Watch all Kakashi's battles again and tell me what you notice. People be underestimating Kakashi because he has a borrowed sharingan that depletes his chakra. Watch when Itachi and Kisame came. Kakashi wasn't bothered by Kisame but Itachi. Itachi even told him that their battle wouldn't take time if Kakashi was facing him instead of Kisame. Kakashi acknowledged that fact cos he knew Itachi was right. His chakra and body wouldn't keep up with that of a true Uchiha. |
firestar: Nah. I just weird. 'If' you meet 'rare' lasses that think opera music, knitting, grip/drift driving, Tenten and cooking among others go wella; you sef no fall hamma.lol. That last chapter was something else. The Lord is one cocky dude. |
We seriously underestimate Kakashi here. If Kakashi had been an Uchiha, he'd beat Itachi well. Kakashi will beat Kisame. |
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[quote author=SIR cum a lot]revise this opinion This na joke abi ?[/quote]It's not a joke . Beating doesn't mean Kakashi will win without sweat. Is it Kisame? He will only be copying techniques till he's had a plan to finish him off. Is it Deidara that doesn't think deep before acting? Name them. It's only Pain and Itachi then probably Konan. Then again, it is my opinion. |
HumbledbYGrace: thanks sweetheart.I'm ok. How is the little man doing? |
The only person I'm sure in Akatsuki that can beat Kakashi is Pain and Itachi - c'est fini. Apart from them, no one else. My opinion though. |
Congrats on your mod post - HumbledByGrace...apologies it is coming late. . . ![]() How are we people? Hope we all are holding up? ![]() |
Where's fellis? This is a befitting thread for a manga fan like you. ![]() |
Kimco, calm down. No one is saying Kishi isn't prone to mistakes. If you go through the thread from page 1 (of which I know you can't, you'll see that most of us have critisized Kishi and the way he upgrades people). As seen with Obito and Kakashi in Obito's dimension despite having the rinnegan. kimco: Where was that said? He was fast enough to still entangle kakshi, ino and choji... Pls don't say things u don't know. for all we may know merging gave him great agility and improved speed....but since we don't know that...please let's not assume. and what do u mean by counter the kyuubi...did he not merge b4 naruto arrived?I think you should watch that fight again. See where he said this is a technique befitting for a kyuubi's jinchuuriki. Then Yamato or Kakashi said he did that to counter the technique |
Some of y'all forget that immediately Kakuzu absorbed the 3 hearts and became hedious, his movements slowed down. Then again, he was trying to counter the jinchuuriki of the kyuubi. Kakashi isn't that good at fuinjutsu and genjutsu so we can't expect him to use it when they all grew up. |
pc guru: https://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/209/a/f/Hei___Darker_Than_Black_by_ketiaro.jpgWhy does this guy look like the steam imp being manipulated by Nidaime Mizukage in Naruto? |
firestar: ^His resemblance to Itachi is uncanny.Very plausible. Also recall Frankenstein telling him something about not being fast that he should try to work on his speed, I think Ragar thought of making the weapons incomplete so his sons won't have to rely on the soul weapon alone as seen when Rajak fought the 8th elder. Another manga to start sketching. . . . ![]() |
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