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shadowprimezero:
Is that a frikkin minigun!?

Seems its becoming the weapon of choice for FOB protection. That thing can tear apart a VBIED in and instant .
This other pic below was taken last year on 24 Dec 2019 when former KDF chief (now retired) was making his rounds in Somalia.

Kenya airforce putting out fires in National park

Kdf Somalia, Dec 2020

kabe1:
Anti spam-bot. When next it happens, send an email to the super mods to unban your username.

Thanks, do you have the email address?

Yesterday I posted an article about a Kenyan manufactured clone/look-a-like/tweaked version of m16 and m4 carbine assault rifles from my other account @Stargate254 and that post dissapered and I didn't have the strength to retype my comment. Anyone know what causes nairaland servers/web hosting servicees to behave like this?

Raaven:
remove algeria ( algeria is going for deutch . boxer ifv and fush's 2 build under licence)

and add tunisia . tunisia is getting a lot of turkish weapons these last years .

but for me it could be kenya .

The Kenyan deal is still at early stages of the tendering, bidding will happen in June next year, so at this point the tender is opened to anyone so it can't be Kenya.
The $110m Otokar's order is at the tail end of procurement, all is left is training and delivery.

shadowprimezero:
The news was discredited by Otokar itself that Uganda was not the client. The client still remains unknown

They discredited Uganda without giving any hint of who the client was?

Kenya Airforce

I have never understood why my country Kenya has some wired love-hate relationship with Iran, [One time we are seeking to buy all our oil from them and other times we are accusing them of sending IRGC Quds force to bomb us in acts of terror) now I'am beginning to get it.

In early 1978, Kenyan-Iranian relations came under great strain over the Ogaden war between Ethiopia and Somalia.

Kenya suspected that Iran was actively supporting Somalia and also arming it with weapons supplied by Britain and America.

While Iran and Kenya’s Western allies leaned towards Somalia in the conflict, Nairobi was sympathetic to the Soviet-backed Ethiopia, mainly because of Somalia’s claims to the northeastern part of Kenya.

Further annoying Kenya was a statement by the Iranian monarch, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, that his country would not stand and watch if Somalia were invaded. The remarks caused a furore and ignited a heated debate in Kenya.

Foreign Affairs minister Munyua Waiyaki warned that Iran was not an African country and therefore had no right to interfere in African affairs.

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With Somali forces falling back in the Ogaden, Kenya feared that President Siad Barre of Somalia might attempt to save face by launching an attack on the North Eastern Province of Kenya using arms from Iran.

Around the time, an Egyptian plane carrying arms to Somalia was intercepted by Kenya Air Force jets and ordered to land in Nairobi for violating Kenyan air space.

All the arms and ammunition were taken to Kahawa Barracks.

Egypt retaliated the following day by impounding two Kenya Airways Boeing 707 planes with a total of 114 passengers, among them Mauritius Education minister Heeralall Bhugaloo.

The first plane was intercepted by the Egyptian Air Force while on its scheduled flight from London to Nairobi; while the second was impounded during a scheduled stop in Cairo to refuel on its way from Nairobi to London. Kenya reacted swiftly by releasing the Egyptian plane.

read the rest here: https://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Ogaden-war-pushed-Kenya-and-Iran-to-sever-ties/1064-5423006-gkcwbgz/index.html

Tinfoil:
I think he was talking about sovereignty. I am sure Kenyans are not allowed in that part even though it’s their country

those are your thoughts.

But if you wanna deal with facts, just try googling a couple of articles that are talking about the attack, bring me any from a reputable source that says the words 'US base'
.. most of them use the words "joint military base used by Kenyan and U.S. forces" that should tell you something about how it's operated.
There are 4 main strategic installations at/around the base, The airstrip which has its traffic control office, a jetty on the sea side , an anti-terrorism training center (which is actually just a school regular looking school), The school is on the Kenyan side, and the command center,that coordinates day to day activities including the joint training. {all those 4 utilities are shared between the two}. Also, Part of Kenya special forces training rotation includes spending a few weeks at the Manda Naval Base , but most of the field training happens at the sea since 2011 after Kenya went to Somalia, They no longer conduct joint training on Land at the base anymore. The Americans also have a Cessna spy-plane that they do manned patrols along the Somali's coast (the Kenyans don't get directly involved in this, they only get reports afterward -Probably after the Americans deduct whatever spy stuff they are doing in Somalia - This is what I was told by a relative of mine who spent some time there). The reason they gave is something about operational security blah blah blah, So after the Kenyans complained about being left out the America did eventually detonate 2 similar planes to the Kenya to do their own surveillance with.

This is one of the Cessna 208 surveillance aircraft that was given to Kenya , This pic was taken at Malindi airstrip which is like a 30min flight from Lamu, but atleast one of the Kenyan Cessna operates/operated (It could be one of the aircrafts that were destroyed yesterday) from Manda Naval base's airstrip.

A Cessna 208B Caravan light aircraft donated to the Kenyan military by the United States Defence Security Cooperation Agency (USDSCA) refuels at Malindi airstrip. The aircraft was converted into an intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) platform by L-3 Communications and features a gyro-stabilized electro optical and infrared (EO/IR) camera as well as communication interception technology. Kenya has been embattled with terrorism threats and Islamic extremism throughout the coastal region, with townships like Lamu and Malindi which lie close to the Somali border being particularly affected.

kabe1:
American base within Kenya base. Doesn't make sense to me, but I'm not Kenyan so.

The base in question.

About the MRAP I'm just putting it out there. The Nigerian army says it's a hell of a machine, that's why I'm saying.

Think of it like a big circle then a small circle inside it. Or a rectangle which has been been partioned in the middle but for you to get to the American part you'll have to go through the kenyan side first.
Camp Simba was established in 2004 but the origins of the Naval base go back the days of said barres autocratic regime which had then threathed on several occasions to take control of Southern Kenya's sea claiming it was rightfully theirs, a maritime dispute that is still in contention even as we speak. After he was overthrown the fear then was that other radical factions might have chosen to take matters into their own hands. A secondary school in Lamu was burnt down by a faction of somalis forces then.

Manda Bay's origins tell you everything you need to know about why the
Americans showed up here. The Kenyan navy built the base in 1992, in
response to the collapse of the Siad Barre dictatorship in Somalia the
year before, right about the time U.S. marines were stepping off their
amphibious ships and entering Mogadishu. Kenya's predominantly Muslim
northern coastal area is so remote that it was simply easier to send
military supplies to its border with Somalia along the coast using naval
vessels than to head up inland by vehicles, as the sandy roads are
impassable in the rainy season.

Years later, as Somalia began spiraling downward yet again, Central
Command sent a special-operations contingent into Manda to begin training
the Kenyan navy on antiterrorism tactics using high-speed patrol craft.

kabe1:
Now I get you. However we're talking about a dangerous local government area. The airstrip is used by the military, including civilians. One would think security would be better.

Kenya should buy Proforce MRAP, they are serving Nigeria well.

the airstrip is so unsecured that when a US plane is scheduled to land, their personell on the ground strategically place themselves around the runway so that there aren't any suprises from the bush.

Anyway, about your MRAP, there are far more battle tested MRAPs from around the world, why should Kenya buy yours over all the other options?

kabe1:
Your Base security needs improvement.

How did Shabaab gain entry to even destroy 4 aircrafts and logistics buildings?

once again, the airstrip is not in the base.

You see this pic here below, that perimeter wall is where the base is, where the smoke is coming from is the airstrip which is usually has very basic security no more than you would find in a civilian airport.

If you look at the pics you posted you will even see it,it's bush then barbed wire , then the airstrip with some floodlights... That's all the security there is... Just like you would see in civilian airstrip... This is not standard KDF security installation you would find in a base.

kabe1:
This is why the Nigerian Air Force takes base security very seriously.

4 Aircrafts destroyed

At least 1 vehicle destroyed

Logistics buildings also destroyed.

The airstrip is not part of the base, it's adjacent to the base near Manda civilian airport. Alshabaab was planning to gain access to the base through the airstrip which is not heavily fortified.

Anyway about the camp, It's a Kenya Navy base, inside the base, there is another compound that houses the US military personnel.

KDF Somalia

GeneralFarouq:
Pls how much did these cost?
Would be a good ide do N.A Avation

The Original tender is for 12 MD530F for $253m

pm-cpa@state.gov
Transmittal No:
17-07
WASHINGTON, May 2, 2017 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Kenya for MD 530 aircraft.The estimated cost is $253 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on May 1, 2017.

The Government of Kenya has requested a possible sale of twelve (12) MD 530F weaponized aircraft to include twenty-four (24) Heavy Machine Gun Pod (HMP) 400 systems; twenty-four (24) M260 rocket launchers; four thousand and thirty-two (4,032) M151 rockets; one thousand five hundred and thirty-six (1,536) 2.75-inch M274 smoke signature warhead rockets; and four hundred thousand (400,000) rounds of .50 caliber ammunition. Also included are communications and navigation equipment, contractor logistics support, training, U.S. Government technical assistance, airframe and weapon system spare parts support, Contractor Field Service Representative (CFSR) support, and Special Assigned Airlift Mission (SAAM) flight delivery support. The total estimated cost is $253 million.

Read more: https://dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/kenya-md-530-aircraft

Previous article on the same
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Shipment of the 6-aircraft Kenyan MD 530F Cayuse Warrior fleet – which will include a U.S. Army-issued AWR – will be complete by the end of the year. Powered by the Rolls-Royce 250-C30 650shp turbine engine, these aircraft will feature an advanced, all-digital glass cockpit, ballistically tolerant crashworthy fuel system, Harris RF-7850A tactical radio, Rockwell Collins HF-9000D, and the full complement of mission equipment that is standard to the Cayuse Warrior:

- FN Herstal Weapons Management System
- DillonAero Mission Configurable Armament System (MCAS)
- DillonAero Fixed-Forward Sighting System
- 62mm ballistic armor protection
- FN Herstal .50 caliber HMP 400 Machine Gun Pods
- M260 7-shot rocket pods

http://airrecognition.com/index.php/archive-world-worldwide-news-air-force-aviation-aerospace-air-military-defence-industry/global-defense-security-news/2019-news-aerospace-industry-air-force/september/5436-mdhi-awarded-cls-training-contract-to-support-kenyan-md-530f-cayuse-warrior-fleet.html

MD Helicopters appears to have made good on its commitment to deliver all six MD 530F Cayuse Warrior scout and light-attack platforms to Kenya Army before the end of the year.

The title of the video is misleading, It wwas more like 36 hours, not 4 days.

A police chopper earlier this week rescued a fisherman stuck in ranging waters


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezixR74B6jQ

That is one mean face !

Ranger Regiment Tactical Manoeuvre Display at KDFDay, Armoured Brigade, Isiolo Barracks "Progressively Building Robust Capability."

Kismayo (Somalia's second largest city) has been relatively more peaceful for the last 7 years (with only one successful major attack)... Even better, the local Juballand government practically runs on its own two feet in controlling the town (From administrative duties like tax collection to security and police, intelligence...etc) AMISOM presence is virtually non-existent within the city.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH6f0azpOrg

AMISOM with the Support of the Somali people have really done a great job in restoring sanity in Somalia, I bet most of you never imagine this is how Mogadishu and Somalia is like today before you watching this video . Given the fact that whenever you see Somalia in any news headline or report 99.9% of the time its about war or Suicide attacks, I thought it would be refreshing to share what happens next after relative peace is restored to a war zone


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buY4jQ4vpm0

So the Dusit Incident and the swift reaction and resolve by security forces didn't go entirely unnoticed in the global diplomatic an IC community.

On peace and security, President Putin commended Kenya for her steadfastness in the fight against terrorism and violent extremism in Eastern and the Horn of Africa region.

The Russia leader cited how Kenya swiftly and firmly dealt with the Dusit Hotel terrorist attack saying it was an indication of how effective the country's security agencies can become in dealing with emerging security threats in the country and the region.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019-10-25-putin-pledges-better-kenya-russia-trade-ties-in-meeting-with-uhuru/

Indeed, we must have gotten better, I hope we will see some joint Kenya-Russia Or even Africa Russia joint training exercises in the future, from the pics I have seen on twitter, looks like most African countries attended the first Africa-Russia Summit.

pic 1 to 3 was during the bilateral meeting with the Kenyan delegation where Putin said those words. (Notice how Putin maintains strong eye contact when he is listening, thats gangsta right there, most presidents avoid making long eye contact)

kabe1:
Kenya doesn't have any vehicle industrial complex to begin with.

FYI the number of locally assembled vehicles in Kenya were more than 10,000 per year by 2016...
They import component kits then , tires and the body (especially trucks and buses) are fabricated locally ...


https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Kenya-assembled-vehicles-hit-10-000-units-on-tax-incentive/996-3196506-view-asAMP-n32njd/index.html

Infact just two days ago Toyota added the Hilux model among the locally assembled vehicles, We are at the stage were we are ready to go to the next stage of components manufacturing i.e electric cables, spare parts, windows, then on to the next stage...

"As we implement the “Buy Kenya” agenda, we expect the private sector to reciprocate by investing in full automotive manufacturing; form joint ventures, training and building the capacity of local Small and Medium-sized Enterprises (SMEs) to provide local content inputs,” the President said. The President challenged Toyota to scale up its investments in Kenya from assembling vehicles to tier one component manufacturing and the eventual establishment of a fully integrated vehicle manufacturing plant in the country. He said the government is putting together a National Automotive Policy as part of measures to support local vehicle manufacturers and instructed Trade, Industry and Cooperatives CS Peter Munya to present the policy to Cabinet for approval within three weeks. “The overall objective of the policy is to provide our domestic industry with opportunities to achieve competitiveness in manufacturing of automotive and parts products,” the President said

http://www.president.go.ke/2019/10/18/president-cautions-private-sector-against-sabotaging-the-buy-kenya-agenda/

Those assembled cars may not be "local" but to say that Kenya doesnt have a vehicle industrial complex would be false.

pics was during the launch of the Hilux model two days ago.

I hope its not just a front to steal money.

Kenya National Police Service strategic plan 2019-2023, I have added the $$ equivalent for easy understanding...

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The plan says the service will spend Sh5 billion to increase CCTV coverage in Nairobi and Mombasa and their metropolis.
Ten billion shillings($100m) will be spent on installing cameras in Kisumu, Eldoret and Nakuru and their environs.
Some Sh8 billion ($80m) will be spent on equipping the police forensic lab and Sh50.9 billion ($500m) in acquisition of security equipment.
A police referral hospital will be constructed and equipped at Sh20 billion ($200m), while Sh3 billion will be spent on upgrading the DCI academy.
Some Sh5 billion will be spent on the NPS Border Police Training Campus.
Police plan to acquire 6,000 assorted vehicles, 1,500 motorcycles and 20 boats in the period at Sh45 billion($450m).
It will spend Sh500 million in titling its land.
Construction, refurbishing and equipping of police stations, camps, posts, stores and residential buildings is projected to cost Sh18 billion ($180m).
New structures for the Critical Infrastructure Police Unit and Border Patrol Unit will take up Sh600 million.
Construction of a model police station in every county will cost Sh7 billion.
The service plans to capacitate its airwing at Sh10.5 billion ($100m) by acquiring new planes and choppers and recruiting new personnel.
Installation of CCTV cameras at all police stations will cost Sh500 million while recruitment of 1,000 new investigators and forensic experts is expected to cost Sh5.5 billion ($5.5.m)
Police plan to develop and implement an intelligence model at Sh200 million, while mainstreaming of human rights and gender issues will cost Sh800 million($800m).
According to the plans, restructuring of the NPS into a seamless operational entity with distinct functions for the Kenya Police, Administration Police and Directorate of Criminal Investigations will cost Sh2.6 billion.
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There are plans to decentralize the operations of police’s Internal Affairs Unit and enhance relation between the service and other stakeholders.
The service plans to recruit 45,605 officers at Sh5 billion in the period while determination of number of specialised technical staff requirement will cost Sh500 million.

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001343571/nps-sets-aside-sh5b-to-hire-forensic-experts

KDF in Dhobley Somalia

samorobo:
You should save that advice for yourself.i don't ask you for a handout on Nairobi

You don't see me here 24/7 trying to prove/disprove something that your fellow countrymen have failed to prove for 5 years now (That's how long ago this thread started!).. Just imagine if this thread was between Kenya Vs Egypt or SA..... We (Kenyans) would have been crushed ruthlessly, by the second page of the thread! we would have crawled back to our cocoons and went into hibernation, but here we are on this thread, 5 years later, The biggest oil producer in Africa and the country with the highest GDP in Africa(Nigeria) being challenged by a tiny (relatively speaking) country called Kenya which has a GDP 5 times less! Just how embarrassing is that??
The fact that this thread is still active is enough proof that the title of this thread is true cause if it wasn't the thread would have gone cold after a few months of being posted!

Top 5 fastest Trains in Africa by 2019


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ker1e5H87yQ