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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 11:20pm On Jun 23, 2022
Toceen2022:

5k

Okay thanks, that mrs Ebere Omeji right
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 11:02pm On Jun 23, 2022
Toceen2022:

Yes, you can.
Contact +234 806 360 7698.
She did mine and I didn't have to travel to Lagos.

How much
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 11:01pm On Jun 23, 2022
Tokunbo10:
I travelled last month ,fully vaccinated and did covid but they didn't ask for the covid test so I just wasted money.You can do more findings to be sure if measures hasn't change.

I thought Covid test is free, did you pay for it?
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 10:53pm On Jun 23, 2022
nairagrounds:
Which airline should I avoid because of transit visa?

Or which stop should I avoid because of transit visa?

Delta airlines
United airways

This two will transit in USA before going to your destination in Canada and they will probably require transit visa in the US so avoid them sha
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 10:44pm On Jun 23, 2022
nairagrounds:
Good morning all,

I pray that all PPR hopefuls will receive their good news soon, and all that are traveling for the fall will arrive safely in Jesus’ name.

I have a couple of questions, as I plan to book and pay for my flight this morning.

I don't want to go to Canada and start incurring costs since I can't start working until September.

1. I'm planning to travel soon, but I’ll like to know how many weeks will be enough to prepare for the start of the fall semester?
2. On which platform can I get the best flight ticket deal?
3. Which airline has the cheapest flight to Canada from Lagos?

I’ll appreciate your answer to these questions.

Thanks.

Also try Interguide air bookings, they can get you cheap available flights though
Technology Market / Re: All Offerup, Letgo, Craigslist, 5miles, Ebay, Amazon Deals.*READ FIRST PAGE* by Filanodivine(m): 4:32pm On Jun 23, 2022
IPHONE 11 64GB MULTIPLE UNITS
FACTORY UNLOCKED
GOOD BATTERY
205k EACH…
200k FOR BULK BUY….

AVAILABLE IN CV|07030462177.
Technology Market / Re: All Offerup, Letgo, Craigslist, 5miles, Ebay, Amazon Deals.*READ FIRST PAGE* by Filanodivine(m): 4:31pm On Jun 23, 2022
IPHONE 11 64GB MULTIPLE UNITS
FACTORY UNLOCKED
GOOD BATTERY
205k EACH…
200k FOR BULK BUY….

AVAILABLE IN CV|07030462177
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 11:31pm On Jun 22, 2022
Toceen2022:
Please guys, do VFS (especially Abuja) acknowledge receiving passport for stamping?
DHL tracking shows the passport has been delivered on monday morning - 9am, but till now I didn't hear anything from VFS.
Please, do I need to fill anything to get notification?
Anyone who recently sent passport to Abuja for stamping.
Vfs should be mailing you updates regarding your envelope ID number and you can also use it to track the activity in vfs website. That’s how mine was done and I didn’t fill any special notification stuff
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 11:14pm On Jun 22, 2022
mrprolifik:


Every school has its own policy when it comes to refund . Secondly if you read well at the end, I said it is the best option for someone who doesn't want to return home to apply for a new study permit .
So if you look at it either ways if you decide to go back to your country to reapply or change school after attending the first school for weeks or months you would loose some money. So it's all up to you to make a decision that would be most favorable.

Alright boss
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 9:11am On Jun 22, 2022
mrprolifik:
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According to IRCC to switch schools after obtaining your Visa you must also inform Them. If you are still in Nigeria for example and have gotten your visa and want to switch schools before travelling to Canada, you must inform IRCC and that also means that you would have to submit a new application with a new letter of acceptance. But if you have already landed in Canada and collected your study permit and later decided to switch schools when you haven't resumed the school you used in getting your study permit you are still required to alert IRCC and you will also be required to leave Canada to apply for a new study permit from home because the one you are already having will be cancelled and rendered invalid . So your best option is to attend the old school for some weeks or a month or 2 then withdraw from the school . In this case you will also alert IRCC but you wont be required to leave Canada to get a new study permit. This is your best option if you don't want to reapply from outside Canada.

So changing institution after attending it for weeks is better, the tuition you paid for the first one can it refundable
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 9:04am On Jun 22, 2022
Lekiboboe:


Aside Kijiji, try Facebook Marketplace to look for Available apartments at Kamloops, BC. Note that you can only use Facebook Marketplace when you get to Canada

Thank you boss
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 9:03am On Jun 22, 2022
Itsdone2022:
Its PPR!!!!! Jesus did it for my family....all Glory to God!!!!!!

Timeline

Upfront medicals for family: 5th of May
Application submitted: 2nd of June
Biometrics: 7th of June and updated same day
Medical Updated: 20th of June for me
PPR: 20th of June
Hubby: Study visa
Spouse: SOWP
Kids: study permit though they are American citizens

• All IMM forms
• POF documents
Scholarship letter
Evidence of acceptance fee payment
Sponsor’s coy account & documents (mother-in-law)
Sponsor’s personal account & mutual fund accts
Letter of sponsorship
Affidavit of support
Landed property for Sponsor
Applicant’s mutual fund acct
Spouse’s mutual fund acct
Letter of consent from spouse


• Client Info
SOP (4 pages)
Employment letter
ID card
Resume
Letter of introduction from company
4 months payslip
Pension account
Property valuation doc & Title document
MSc & BSc certificates
Professional certificates
NYSC certificate
Family pictures & many pictures with sponsor
Police clearance certificate
General IELTS


Few things to note:
****We used a conditional letter but wrote a letter stating that the ASUU strike was causing a delay in fulfilling the conditions of the letter****.
1. Sponsor transferred to my hubby’s account & he moved it to his mutual funds acct. We did a POF breakdown that showed the money we had was more than enough to cover the study duration.
2. For the kids LOA, hubby wrote a letter quoting the Canada immigration law that states the kids don’t need to have an admission offer before coming. Only their birth certificate was uploaded.
3. There was a table of content for every section.
4. Under my SOWP, I submitted the same SOP my husband used. Didn’t write a different one. I also added my own credentials and CV in my Client Info section.
5. A week after submission, we sent our salary bank statements & his study leave letter.
6. We have valid UK & US visas. Submitted all prior visas and stamped pages.
7. Most importantly, lots of prayers and praise.

A lot of questions were answered for me just by reading this thread. I pray that this inexplicable joy goes round in Jesus name!!!!!

Congratulations
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 8:59am On Jun 22, 2022
Mystiqme:



Still looking?
Yeah I am, got any?
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 8:52am On Jun 22, 2022
Olanrae:
Please

Which one is best to send my passport
Lagos or Abuja
Cos I’ve been hearing Lagos takes 6 weeks and all that

You can use UPS from Lagos and pay for fast track, got mine in a week

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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 8:38am On Jun 22, 2022
legenduq:
God has done it.
It’s PPR!

First time applicant. (New portal)

Timeline
- Upfront Medical: March 10, 2022
- Submission: March 15, 2022
- Biometrics: March 17, 2022
- Medical Updated to Passed: March 23, 2022
- Biometrics Updated to Completed: March 28, 2022
- Eligibility Review: Ongoing
- Background Check: Ongoing
BVL & PPR: June 19, 2022.

Documents:
Passport
Admission letter
Tuition Deposit
Sister's statement of Account
Sister's ID and Birth Certificate
Affidavit of Support
Letter of Sponsorship

Additional docs:
Statement of Purpose
Upfront Medical slip
Birth Certificate
WAEC Certificate
Degree Certificate
Transcript of Academic Records
IELTS test result
NYSC Discharge Certificate
Police Clearance Certificate
Letter of employment
Study Leave approval
Letter of Introduction from Office
ID card
Four months Pay slip
Other Certificates
Land property
Passport data page and Birth Certificate of Family Members

Special thanks to skull4eva for patiently answering all my questions. Boss I really disturb you. destinationcann thank you sir.
In all, read instructions, believe in yourself, then pray to God. I wish you all the best.

Congratulations
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 7:03pm On Jun 19, 2022
Ableman101:


Ok maybe I should have used interface but how about the links ? The same. Anyone ?

The old portal is the GCKey own. The new portal you will fill all the forms online in the portal unlike the old portal that you’ll have to download the IMM5257 forms, fill and upload.

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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 6:22am On Jun 18, 2022
Ekesbaba1:
My people!!!

Thank you to everyone on this platform for the assistance so far.

After being scammed by an agent of 5500 CAD in April 2021, I decided to apply by self.
Submitted April 1st..
Biometrics April 8th..(Abuja)
Biometrics Updated 9th..
Traveled to Dubai for honeymoon May 16th..
Got a request for medicals June 1st.
Did the medicals June 8th here in Dubai for 795 aed..(E really pain me oo)
Medicals passed and updated 13th June..
PPR June 17th, just 4 days later..

I'm still surprised ooo.
In all, I give all the glory to God!!!
I prayed for grace and He answered me..
I resigned from my bank job in June 2021 after the scam with high hopes, got fired from my other remote jobs by August, Got depressed and couldn't travel home that year.
But my guy came through for me, inspired me that the hustle just started and introduced me to church(Dominion City), I became focused on God, got some of my remote jobs back, got my self confidence back, married in March, apply study permit April, Go honey moon for Dubai May, PPR June.

This is my testimony!!!
God really works, if we can be faithful and keep our side of the agreement.
More Good new loading as I will continue to be faithful by the enablement of the holy spirit.

He will visit everyone here according to our needs in Jesus name!!!

Congratulations

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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 9:14am On Jun 17, 2022
Chiziteremary:
Congrats. May the land of Canada favour u. Mine is next in Jesus name.


Amen
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 8:07am On Jun 17, 2022
pufframmy:
wow u have a good sponsorer oo May Canada Favour u


Amen
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 8:36pm On Jun 16, 2022
Teemenzo:


Bro, e pain me say you no call me out. Me wey don dey outside since. Irun kin

Lol, free matter

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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 8:34pm On Jun 16, 2022
Toodirty:
congrats to you and God bless your journey… Did you use my bank statement or normal printed statement ?

I used mbs for my in-law account only

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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 7:28pm On Jun 16, 2022
I’m a first time applicant and all I can say is that you can do this application yourself and you’ll get all the information you need on this platform!!!!!!


!!!!!!!Timeline!!!!!!!

Upfront medical- 16 March
Submitted Application- 23 April
Biometrics collection- 6 May(updated the same day)
Medicals updated-28 May
Eligibility-9 June
BVL AND PPR- 9 June


!!!!!!!Documents Submitted!!!!!!!!

Personal information
-Passport Biodata page
-Birth Certificate
-Degree Certificate
-Sec school Testimonial
-Executive ID cards (offices I held back in the university)
-Award of merit
-Resume
-Transcript
-Letter of Acceptance

Funding Information
(My elder bro is the main sponsor and my in-law second sponsor)
-List of my documents in this section, how it’s arranged and it’s explanation
- Brother’s Company CAC
- Brother’s Letter of sponsorship
- His Account statement- 55m with good inflow
-His company CEO ID card
-In-law letter of sponsorship
-in-law Account statement- 25m (6 months: over 1.5bn inflow and outflow)
-in-law ID card
-CAC of business I manage
-My bank statement- 2m (3 months: 20m+ inflow and outflow)
-Tuition deposit
-Survey plans of all family properties
-CAC of family business
-Documents of mother’s house
-Mom’s ID card
-Parent’s Marriage certificate (father is late)
-father’s Death certificate

Additional Documents
-List of my documents in this section, how it’s arranged and it’s explanation
-SOP
-Family pictures
-Pictures with in-law
-Pictures of properties and houses
-Pictures of my business locations
-Medical info sheet (upfront medical)

Sorry this might be coming late and I didn’t intend it to be but I’ve not been really well sha. A lot have been said regarding it and everyone of you is right in his/her own view. @Teemenzo I for call you out based on a statement you made but then let it sly e don pass.
I’m thankful for God’s mercy.. People are ready to answer you here and you can also learn from other people’s questions. I can’t call specific names but everyone contributed to what I learnt and still learning here.
I pray for everyone waiting for ppr, yours is next.

Good luck guys!!!!!

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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 11:13pm On Jun 12, 2022
DaCrypto:
Hello Everyone,

I studied Mechanical Engineering in my first degree...graduated with 2.1 in 2009. I have also done my master degree still in Mechanical Engineering.

However, after my undergraduate program, I got a job as a cybersecurity officer in a Bank and I have been in the banking industry ever since. I have done some information security certifications like Sec+, CEH, CISM.

My problem is that I am confused on what part to follow;

1. Should I start from Master Mechanical Engineering

2. Should I go straight for PhD

3. Or should I continue with Cybersecurity?

I got some information that it would be difficult to get VISA if I go for Cybersecurity because it's different from my first degree..."Lack of career progression".

Please I need guidance from experienced members

Lack of career progression? The MSc Cybersecurity is actually more of a progression in career than the Phd Mec Eng since that’s the field you’ve been working in since graduation. At this point in your case, work experience supersedes your first degree. Job in cybersecurity in a bank and wants to go for Msc in cybersecurity is more like you want to gather more knowledge regarding your job field which is just perfect

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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 11:05pm On Jun 12, 2022
Philthomas649:
I booked it myself, albeit a one way ticket, not a round trip. I guess that's why it's cheaper

It’s one way I’m searching for and seeing that amount. Omo
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 8:48pm On Jun 12, 2022
amila20042001:
It's so disheartening that 3 days after you got ppr you are yet to update the house with your timeline and documents you submitted.
You claim you're taking your time to put it together, After 3 days of receiving ppr.

I wonder if every other person behave like this, will this thread remain relevant and/or informative. It's a simple act of kindness to give back a little to something that gave you a whole lot.
You're still putting up question and expecting response. I greet you.

Sorry ma’am, how did you know I got ppr if not that I wrote it here and I also stated I’ll post the full gist soon. Lol 3 days, you are really counting the days for me.. I will
Why do you have to say that I shouldn’t expect people to answer me because of that? even with my little knowledge of this process I still answer people’s questions here so no take am personal

@teemenzo boss abeg I node package am oh
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 7:01pm On Jun 12, 2022
@Philthomas649 I am still waiting for your response regarding your 637 USD egyptair flight. Where did you book it? Cus the least I can see on egyptair is $1100 currently
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 12:44pm On Jun 12, 2022
Who has an accommodation or knows of how to get one in Kamloops, British Columbia?
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 12:31pm On Jun 12, 2022
sodmad:
Thanks for your response,
1. I want to reapply with an LOA from different institution and different course
2. The first school tuition is high for my sponsor..

To be honest different course and different school mehn.. if it was just different school but the same course or maybe both courses are in the same field of study then you’re good to go. If it’s a different field entirely then you can try though they might think you’re not serious and just looking for an easier option to japa with.
But then it’s possible so you can give it a try just explain yourself well in the LOE and give concrete reasons for your change in course and institution.. All the best
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 5:16am On Jun 12, 2022
pearlies100:
Very Long Post Alert!!

I got admission December 2020 for Fall 2021 in University of New Brunswick but could not apply immediately because I was due to give birth in January 2021. I planned to submit my application in March but thanks to our immigration service, it took over 3 months before I could get passport for my baby despite paying through my nose for expedited processing. I ended up submitting our application on the 9th of June 2021 due to this delay. I was advised to put in mine while waiting for the passport but going without my children was not an option. We applied as a family, Myself, husband and 3 children. My husband applied for SOWP and visiting visa for my children because they're not up to school age.

Aside from the wahala of having to convince the VO and the fact that we are close to our mid 40s, two things stood against us. We had applied to visit Canada in 2019, but were denied, reason given was that we will not come back and false information in my husband's application, he didn't disclose his denial for US visa. We had applied for US visa a month earlier but the consular officer decided to give myself and my son but refused my husband. When we asked for the reason, she said she had none but was making a split decision. It was an oversight on my part because I filled our forms, I did mine first and just edited same form for my Husband and son. I forgot to change that part.
The second issue was my husband had a health condition and no information on how it was handled by IRCC. He didn't want to apply with us because he was scared he would ruin our chances but it was a no no for me. How will I manage with 3 small boys while studying.
We decided to use agents to help with our application but when I heard the price, I ran away quickly, not in this Buhari's economy.

I used same SoP I used to get my admission because I had no time to start afresh, I just edited it and in addition explained why I was doing a second masters (I have an MBA, same with my husband), how it would be beneficial in Nigeria and course not available in my country. I also addressed the issue of the denial in 2019 stating we never planned to break any visa rule and pointed them to our travel history to show that we have never overstayed in the countries we have visited. I also had to explain the false information in my husband's SoP stating it was an oversight. Reason given for going with my children is that they were too young to be left behind and I need my husband to take care of them. He runs his business and will take time off to support me in my career advancement. Reason given for him applying for work permit is that he wants work part time to gain experience that he would apply to his business back home and also support his family while in Canada.

Application was submitted 9th of June and the wait started, UNB gave us ultimatum of 13th of September to get our study permit or defer. We would not be allowed to even start online without it. I had no choice but to defer to September 2022. I wrote to IRCC but got generic responses. I got Nairobi email address from this forum and sent several mails. At some point, they stopped responding. I decided to fast and pray first week in February, a friend gave me Abuja email address, I sent a mail to them on the 7th and got a response on the 9th to go for medicals. I was so excited that finally, we have made progress. My husband and I did ours first. We had to disclose his condition and he was asked to go for further test, the tension of waiting was not easy especially on his part, mine was updated on the 19th while his was updated on the 22nd. We finally crossed that hurdle. Then our kids were asked to go for theirs a month later. Theirs was updated on the 23rd of March. I was asked to submit an updated application letter from the school and I also had to send a new passport because of the expiry date on the one I submitted. My hope was that within a month we should be done with this whole process. Then another wait started. I started writing to IRCC every other week from April but they didn't respond to any of my mails. I saw a format on nairaland 3 weeks ago to use to send email reminders but still no response. I decided to chill until the one year anniversary of our submission. At this point I was tensed because so many things were hanging, cost of ticket was rising, I needed to give enough notice to my boss to get my replacement before leaving. I entered another fasting and prayer last week, I had no other option. On the 10th of June, that's last Friday, someone posted the email address of different Visa Offices. I started sending mails to all of them. I also sent message to IRCC's twitter account and was about to send to London VO when I saw 7 donotreply emails. I first of all panicked and was afraid to open the mail. It was like a miracle, finally after one year of waiting, this came through. I also pray for those waiting patiently to get yours quickly in Jesus name, Amen!

My timeline:

Application Submitted: 9th of June 2021
Medical Request for me and my spouse: 9th February, 2022
Medical Passed: 19th and 22nd February 2022
Medical Request for my children: 9th March 2022
Medical Passed: 23rd March 2022
BVL: 10th June 2022
PPR: 10th June 2022

Documents submitted:
Myself:
IELTS Result
Police Clearance Certificate
Resume
Marriage Certificate
BSC and Masters Certificate
Proof of Current Employment
Travel History
Land Documents
Proof of Fund: Joint Account (had to explain the source of a lump sum), Dorm Account, Children's individual account, savings from office cooperative and RSA account (I stated this was for back up).

Spouse:
Police Clearance Certificate
Company Registration
Land Documents
Travel History

Children:
Birth Certificate

Congratulations
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 11:18pm On Jun 11, 2022
Spicy12345:
Its PPR guys. Long Post alert

I have been a silent reader of Nairaland since the beginning of this year and everything that led to this point (obtaining our PPR), Nairaland contributed to it.
We started this journey in 2021. I started off with some countries which eventually did not work out. My husband had applied to a couple of schools and we either received rejections or no responses at all. Fast forward to January, my sister was leaving for Canada at the time and came visiting so I requested that she helped apply to a school. We followed up and received admission to Centennial College for a Postgraduate Certificate program in Cybersecurity. It is also worthy to note that we applied to several schools in the UK, I think about 6 or 7 of them and got admission to all.
Amidst all these, my husband insisted on Canada.
We applied for my husband's Study visa, my Spousal Open Work Permit and a Visiting Visa for my 19 months daughter on the 1st of April, 2022. This happened when everywhere I turned to for assistance on how to proceed with these applications kept giving warning signs for my husband to apply alone. My husband insisted that we all apply together and back it up with prayers and I agreed.
We gathered all our documents and applied with faith and the wait started. Sometimes, I would wake up in the middle of the night and say my prayers sometimes with tears. Sometimes, I and my husband would find it difficult to sleep at night. I would disturb my sister from time to time even during her busy schedule just to find out if there was anything to do to hasten the process. I am not a very patient person but my husband who has more patience among the both of us started to worry too on the 1st of June. We kept praying and hoping that God comes through.
I felt our application could be better but believed God will use the documents we had submitted to speak for us. We noticed that his passport was due to expire in October and then we decided to apply for that as quickly as possible.
On the 5th of June, my husband came back home worried which increased my worry as well but we kept telling each other that our application was more complex so it may take them a while to get to it.
On the 7th of June at around 7:30am, my husband called my attention and, in his words, "it is already happening o"
I ran to his phone and saw 3 emails with "do not reply", my heart skipped several beats and I remember saying to him, if we were rejected, we fire again.
I went straight for the laptop but was not fast enough as I kept shaking. My husband grabbed it and signed in.
At this point, I hissed and said aloud "Eligibility just started and its a ghost update", then he said hold on let me scroll down and there it was Original Passport Request. I screamed my lungs out.
Our timeline:
GCKey 1st time applicant
Application: 1st of April, 2022
Upfront medicals: 26t of March and updated to pass on the 21st of April, 2022
Biometrics: 14th of April, 2022
PPR for Study, SOWP, and VV on the 8th of June.

I would say it has been God and I am putting this out there to encourage people most especially families who are too afraid to apply together. Do it, research, make your application as tight as possible, and back it up with prayers. I reached out to only one person on this thread who happened to be going to the same school as my husband, @centennialguy, thank you for your help, I appreciate it.
I wish everyone the best and to all PPR hopefuls, your time is now.

It will end in praise

Congratulations
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 7:40am On Jun 11, 2022
Famousprince:
@Filanodivine pls help me. I've here asking for help for 4 days now but no one is replying me. I need help submitting my application. The first form to upload on the questionnaire has been giving me headache as i get error message whenever i tried to upload it. Does IMM5257 appear twice on the questionnaire? Maybe that where i am getting it wrong. Help me pls

Are you making use of the old portal? Because I used the new portal for my application so I might not understand what you’re going through.
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Filanodivine(m): 7:18am On Jun 11, 2022
Philthomas649:
637 USD
Okay I just confirmed yours is still egyptair.. how come it’s cheaper with a huge margin?

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