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PoliticsRe: EFCC Arrests 25 Prominent Nigerians Over $2billion Arms Purchase Scandal by fineguy11(m): 10:11pm On Dec 01, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
grin

I believe that they should exxplain themselves to the investigators and if found wanting, they should ALL be prosecuted or tied to the stake and shot on their foreheads with a double barrel gun. Whoever among them that believe that he is innocent should get a very good lawyer and fight for his case.


Any nincompoop that expect TonyeBarcanista to defend these men should visit Akure for a flogging session with their youths.
U BADT GANNN
PoliticsRe: FG Workers To Be Paid Nov Salary On The 11th Dec by fineguy11(m): 10:09pm On Dec 01, 2015
gebest:
well for your information i work with federal ministry of finance Abuja.
why bother replying those nitwits.people have being receiving salaries since last week,my dad got his alert today...
PoliticsRe: Russia Sends Nuclear War Signals To Turkey by fineguy11(op): 10:05pm On Dec 01, 2015
stinggy:
Russian has many psychos....
the man who may take over from putin may not be as calm as he is..
Foreign AffairsRe: No US Airstrikes In Syria Since Russia Deployed S-400 Systems . by fineguy11(op): 9:54pm On Dec 01, 2015
WombRaiders:
Don't deny that you and your fellow muslims don't share and believe in the Mahdist doctrine which ISIS is using to establish the caliphate.
now i''m a muslim grin grin grin grin grin

NYSCRe: Corpers Forced To Cut Weeds As Punishment Before Clearance In Rivers (Photos) by fineguy11(m): 9:36pm On Dec 01, 2015
kekakuz:
[size=20pt] Why are we wasting valuable time and man power
I think we should convert this service to a compulsory one year military service like it's done in some Asian countries. Nigerian army lacks man power
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1 million likes for u.imagine a country of 150000000 cant even boost of an army of 200;000,and govt is busy looking for ways to create jobs..
PoliticsRussia Sends Nuclear War Signals To Turkey by fineguy11(op): 9:07pm On Dec 01, 2015
After striking Turkey and Egypt off the list of safe tourist destinations, Russia has decided to remove India as well, according to The Times of India. And while the reason for eliminating Turkey and Egypt is crystal clear, removing India from the list is not fully comprehended in the current geopolitics.

Amid warming relations between New Delhi and Moscow and their joint naval exercises to be held from Dec. 7-12, many wonder why Russian President Vladimir Putin would weaken India’s economy by removing it from Russia’s list of safe destinations for tourists.

Putin cancelled all flights to Egypt after the Oct. 31 explosion of a Russian passenger plane, which killed 224 people on board. And after the Turkish military shot down a Russian fighter jet in its airspace last Tuesday, the Russian president wiped out Russia’s tourist relations with Turkey, where 4.4 million Russians vacationed last year.

“This is extremely bad news for our tour operators. The flow of Russian tourists was expected to increase following the bombing a Russian plane (resulting in the suspension of Russian flights to Egypt) and the easing of visa restrictions,” Subhash Goyal, president of the Indian Association of Tour Operators, told the Pakistan Observer.

Russia set to strengthen China’s economy with tourists

India’s Goa has always been a favorite place for Russian tourists, according to Rajji Rai, former president of the Travel Agents Association of India and chairman of Swift Travels.

“Such is the demand that last year, Air India resumed its Moscow flight after a gap of around 15 years. Around 50% of tourists visiting Goa in winters are Russians,” he added.

Russians mean good business for India’s travel industry, he said and added that “they stay here for an average 3-6 months and are an integral part of the travel industry here.”

Moscow officials stated out that the removal of India from the safe travelling list was not connected to terror attacks. In what appears to be a move to strengthen China’s economy, Russia is now going to focus on China, Cuba and Vietnam as new directions for tourist flow as they “have excellent infrastructure, friendly atmosphere and warm weather in winter,” according to First Deputy Speaker of the Parliament of the Russian Federation Ivan Melnikov.

“Unfortunately, both India and Goa, were not discussed as a promising direction for Russian travelers,” Melnikov said, as reported by The Times of India.
Russia imposes visa regime on Turkey

On Friday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov announced that Russia is introducing a visa regime for Turkish citizens. The regime goes into effect Jan. 1, according to The Guardian.

Moscow has also warned all of its tour companies against selling vacation packages to Turkey and recommended that all Russian citizens leave the country that downed the Russian warplane last week. Additionally, it is expected that Putin is going to impose a number of economic sanctions and cancel joint projects in a bid to further cripple the Turkish economy.

The Turkish military said it had shot down the Russian fighter jet on Tuesday, triggering a furious response from the Kremlin and escalating the already-hot tensions in geopolitics. The Russian warplane was given ten warnings in five minutes as it approached the NATO member state’s territory. After the Russian Su-24 attack aircraft ignored the warnings, the Turkish military sent two of its F-16s to bring down the Russian jet.

With Putin warning the West of “serious consequences” for bringing down the Russian warplane, analysts believe Moscow is willing to unleash a nuclear war over the incident. Although Turkey is backed by NATO’s 5th Article, which states that an attack on one Ally shall be considered an attack on all NATO members, the chances that Russia is going start a nuclear war over the incident are very “likely,” according to Pavel Felgengauer, Russia’s most respected military analyst, as reported by ValueWalk.

Russia can easily destroy Turkey with nuclear bomb: Russian MP
A Russian MP has recently outlined how easy it would be for Russia to destroy Turkey.

“You just chuck one nuclear bomb into the straits, and there’d be a huge flood. The water would rise by 10-15 meters and the whole city would disappear,” said Vladimir Zhirinovsky, leader of the misnamed Liberal Democratic party, according to the Daily Mail.

It was also reported by the British news source that Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan has refused to apologize to Moscow for the downing of the Russian warplane. He said that his country’s jets would act the exact same way if a similar situation ever occurred again. The words triggered furious rhetoric at the Kremlin.

The Turkish president also said on Friday that he had warned Putin about violations of Turkish airspace by Russian planes at the G20 summit in Antalya earlier this month. Erdogan said that Putin had told him to accept Russian warplanes “as guests,” to which the Turkish president responded that his country is not going to accept uninvited guests.Erdogan added during a speech in Bayburt that Russia is “playing with fire to go as far as mistreating our citizens who have gone to Russia.”

“We really attach a lot of importance to our relations with Russia … We don’t want these relations to suffer harm in any way,” he said.

The Turkish president also accused Putin of backing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s “terrorist state” in Syria. The comments come after Putin called the Turks, including Erdogan, “accomplices of terrorists” and claimed that Turkish officials were profiting from oil trade with ISIS, which claimed responsibility for the downing of a Russian passenger plane on Oct. 31.

Erdogan has previously said that the Turkish jets which were ordered to bring down the Russian Su-24 last Tuesday did not realize the jet was a Russian jet and would have acted differently had they known. http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/11/russia-sends-nuclear-war-signals-turkey/

PoliticsMeet The Man Who Funds ISIS: Bilal Erdogan, The Son Of Turkey’s President by fineguy11(op): 8:49pm On Dec 01, 2015
In addition to son Bilal’s illegal and lucrative oil trading for ISIS, Sümeyye Erdogan, the daughter of the Turkish President apparently runs a secret hospital camp inside Turkey just over the Syrian border.


Russia’s Sergey Lavrov is not one foreign minister known to mince his words. Just earlier today, 24 hours after a Russian plane was brought down by the country whose president three years ago said “a short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack”, had this to say: “We have serious doubts this was an unintended incident and believe this is a planned provocation” by Turkey.

But even that was tame compared to what Lavrov said to his Turkish counterparty Mevlut Cavusoglu earlier today during a phone call between the two (Lavrov who was supposed to travel to Turkey has since canceled such plans).
As Sputnik transcribes, according to a press release from Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Lavrov pointed out that, “by shooting down a Russian plane on a counter-terrorist mission of the Russian Aerospace Force in Syria, and one that did not violate Turkey’s airspace, the Turkish government has in effect sided with ISIS.”

It was in this context when Lavrov added that “Turkey’s actions appear premeditated, planned, and undertaken with a specific objective.”

More importantly, Lavrov pointed to Turkey’s role in the propping up the terror network through the oil trade. Per the Russian statement:Others reaffirmed Lavrov’s stance, such as retired French General Dominique Trinquand, who said that “Turkey is either not fighting ISIL at all or very little, and does not interfere with different types of smuggling that takes place on its border, be it oil, phosphate, cotton or people,” he said.

The reason we find this line of questioning fascinating is that just last week in the aftermath of the French terror attack but long before the Turkish downing of the Russian jet, we wrote about “The Most Important Question About ISIS That Nobody Is Asking” in which we asked who is the one “breaching every known law of funding terrorism when buying ISIS crude, almost certainly with the tacit approval by various “western alliance” governments, and why is it that these governments have allowed said middleman to continue funding ISIS for as long as it has?”Precisely one week later, in even more tragic circumstances, suddenly everyone is asking this question.

And while we patiently dig to find who the on and offshore “commodity trading” middleman are, who cart away ISIS oil to European and other international markets in exchange for hundreds of millions of dollars, one name keeps popping up as the primary culprit of regional demand for the Islamic State’s “terrorist oil” – that of Turkish president Recep Erdogan’s son: Bilal Erdogan.

His very brief bio:
Necmettin Bilal Erdogan, commonly known as Bilal Erdogan (born 23 April 1980) is the third child of Recep Tayyip Erdo?an, the current President of Turkey.

After graduating from Kartal Imam Hatip High School in 1999, Bilal Erdogan moved to the US for undergraduate education. He also earned a Masters Degree in John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University in 2004. After graduation, he served in the World Bank as intern for a while. He returned Turkey in 2006 and started to his business life. Bilal Erdogan is one of the three equal shareholders of “BMZ Group Denizcilik “, a marine transportation corporation.In the next few days, we will present a full breakdown of Bilal’s various business ventures, starting with his BMZ Group which is the name implicated most often in the smuggling of illegal Iraqi and Islamic State through to the western supply chain, but for now here is a brief, if very disturbing snapshot, of both father and son Erdogan by F. William Engdahl, one which should make everyone ask whether the son of Turkey’s president (and thus, the father) is the silent mastermind who has been responsible for converting millions of barrels of Syrian Oil into hundreds of millions of dollars of Islamic State revenue.

Erdogan’s Dirth Dangerous ISIS Games
More and more details are coming to light revealing that the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, variously known as ISIS, IS or Daesh, is being fed and kept alive by Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish President and by his Turkish intelligence service, including MIT, the Turkish CIA. Turkey, as a result of Erdogan’s pursuit of what some call a Neo-Ottoman Empire fantasies that stretch all the way to China, Syria and Iraq, threatens not only to destroy Turkey but much of the Middle East if he continues on his present path.

In October 2014 US Vice President Joe Biden told a Harvard gathering that Erdogan’s regime was backing ISIS with “hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of tons of weapons…” Biden later apologized clearly for tactical reasons to get Erdo?an’s permission to use Turkey’s Incirlik Air Base for airstrikes against ISIS in Syria, but the dimensions of Erdogan’s backing for ISIS since revealed is far, far more than Biden hinted.

ISIS militants were trained by US, Israeli and now it emerges, by Turkish special forces at secret bases in Konya Province inside the Turkish border to Syria, over the past three years. Erdo?an’s involvement in ISIS goes much deeper. At a time when Washington, Saudi Arabia and even Qatar appear to have cut off their support for ISIS, they remaining amazingly durable. The reason appears to be the scale of the backing from Erdo?an and his fellow neo-Ottoman Sunni Islam Prime Minister, Ahmet Davutolu.http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/05/politics/isis-biden-erdogan-apology/ http://www.businessinsider.com/biden-apologizes-turkey-erdogan-isis-comments-2014-10

Nice Family Business
The prime source of money feeding ISIS these days is sale of Iraqi oil from the Mosul region oilfields where they maintain a stronghold. The son of Erdogan it seems is the man who makes the export sales of ISIS-controlled oil possible.

Bilal Erdo?an owns several maritime companies. He has allegedly signed contracts with European operating companies to carry Iraqi stolen oil to different Asian countries. The Turkish government buys Iraqi plundered oil which is being produced from the Iraqi seized oil wells. Bilal Erdogan’s maritime companies own special wharfs in Beirut and Ceyhan ports that are transporting ISIS’ smuggled crude oil in Japan-bound oil tankers.

Gürsel Tekin vice-president of the Turkish Republican Peoples’ Party, CHP, declared in a recent Turkish media interview, “President Erdogan claims that according to international transportation conventions there is no legal infraction concerning Bilal’s illicit activities and his son is doing an ordinary business with the registered Japanese companies, but in fact Bilal Erdo?an is up to his neck in complicity with terrorism, but as long as his father holds office he will be immune from any judicial prosecution.” Tekin adds that Bilal’s maritime company doing the oil trades for ISIS, BMZ Ltd, is “a family business and president Erdogan’s close relatives hold shares in BMZ and they misused public funds and took illicit loans from Turkish banks.”
In addition to son Bilal’s illegal and lucrative oil trading for ISIS, Sümeyye Erdogan, the daughter of the Turkish President apparently runs a secret hospital camp inside Turkey just over the Syrian border where Turkish army trucks daily being in scores of wounded ISIS Jihadists to be patched up and sent back to wage the bloody Jihad in Syria, according to the testimony of a nurse who was recruited to work there until it was discovered she was a member of the Alawite branch of Islam, the same as Syrian President Bashar al-Assad who Erdogan seems hell-bent on toppling.

Turkish citizen Ramazan Bagol, captured this month by Kurdish People’s Defence Units,YPG, as he attempted to join ISIS from Konya province, told his captors that said he was sent to ISIS by the ‘Ismailia Sect,’ a strict Turkish Islam sect reported to be tied to Recep Erdogan. Baol said the sect recruits members and provides logistic support to the radical Islamist organization. He added that the Sect gives jihad training in neighborhoods of Konya and sends those trained here to join ISIS gangs in Syria.

According to French geopolitical analyst, Thierry Meyssan, Recep Erdogan “organised the pillage of Syria, dismantled all the factories in Aleppo, the economic capital, and stole the machine-tools. Similarly, he organised the theft of archeological treasures and set up an international market in Antioch…with the help of General Benoît Puga, Chief of Staff for the Elysée, he organised a false-flag operation intended to provoke the launching of a war by the Atlantic Alliance – the chemical bombing of la Ghoutta in Damascus, in August 2013. “
Meyssan claims that the Syria strategy of Erdo?an was initially secretly developed in coordination with former French Foreign Minister Alain Juppé and Erdogan’s then Foreign Minister Ahmet Davuto?lu, in 2011, after Juppe won a hesitant Erdogan to the idea of supporting the attack on traditional Turkish ally Syria in return for a promise of French support for Turkish membership in the EU. France later backed out, leaving Erdogan to continue the Syrian bloodbath largely on his own using ISIS.

Gen. John R. Allen, an opponent of Obama’s Iran peace strategy, now US diplomatic envoy coordinating the coalition against the Islamic State, exceeded his authorized role after meeting with Erdogan and “promised to create a “no-fly zone” ninety miles wide, over Syrian territory, along the whole border with Turkey, supposedly intended to help Syrian refugees fleeing from their government, but in reality to apply the “Juppé-Wright plan”. The Turkish Prime Minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, revealed US support for the project on the TV channel A Haber by launching a bombing raid against the PKK.” Meyssan adds.

There are never winners in war and Erdogan’s war against Syria’s Assad demonstrates that in bold. Turkey and the world deserve better. Ahmet Davutoglu’s famous “Zero Problems With Neighbors” foreign policy has been turned into massive problems with all neighbors due to the foolish ambitions of Erdogan and his gang.http://www.mintpressnews.com/211624-2/211624/

Foreign AffairsRussia Building New Military Bases On Islands Claimed By Japan by fineguy11(op): 8:18pm On Dec 01, 2015
Russia has begun building two modern military compounds on the far eastern Kuril islands, defence minister Sergei Shoigu said Tuesday, heightening long-running tensions with Japan over the disputed islands.

Russia is "actively carrying out construction of military compounds on the islands of Iturup and Kunashir", Shoigu said at a meeting with military top brass, according to the ministry's website.

Relations between Moscow and Tokyo have been strained for decades because of the status of the four southernmost islands in the Kuril chain, known as the Northern Territories in Japan.

Some 19,000 Russians live on the remote rocky islands, occupied by Soviet troops in the dying days of World War II.

The two countries have never officially struck a peace treaty and the lingering tensions over the issue have hampered trade ties for decades.

The Russian ministry said the new military buildings would help "raise the combat readiness of troops on the eastern frontiers of Russia."

Altogether, Russia plans to put up 392 pre-fabricated buildings on the islands, including schools, kindergartens, leisure centres and dormitories, with construction work continuing through the winter.

"This year, the priority is finishing the most essential buildings and the engineering infrastructure" to receive troops and equipment, Shoigu said.

In September Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev visited the island of Iturup and surveyed troops there, angering Japan.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has ruled out any compromise on the islands, telling his Japanese counterpart Fumio Kishida in September that Tokyo must acknowledge "the postwar historical realities."

Russia has recently poured in investments to the region and reconstructed the Japanese-built airport on Kunashir
http://news.yahoo.com/russia-building-military-bases-islands-claimed-japan-134635651.html

Foreign AffairsRe: We Will Take Out The S-400 If A Nato Member Jet Is Hit: Us Defence Chief by fineguy11(m): 8:10pm On Dec 01, 2015
mazeltov:
Arguing with you will be very boring!! Ok let's do it like this.... Anywhere you see an online article that explains that S-400 has more than 400km coverage and can shoot fifth generation jet like Pakfa and Raptor, then quote me or you can explain it yourself . Please be focused and read with attention. I said ''that explains''. I don't soil my hands with lame puffery.
That's why you said S-400 can't be seen with its AESA radar when most of the fighters jets now use the same radar. grin
scully95:
You are arguing with this kid mazeltov: again ? S-400 will shoot down raptor and future fighter jets. It's designed to shoot down any flying objects.. The only thing it can't do is shoot down space object.. Now S-500 is being designed to shoot down any space object flying to its area of deployment.

Kid mazeltov:, learn again and be updated. Common sense really did not tell you the system that was used to shoot down U-2 that was flying to the stratosphere in 1960 is being instilled into the S-400. It will shoot anything down I repeat except space objects..

Get that stick into your dead brain cells again and again.
best response to your foolish assertion.im done with u
Foreign AffairsRe: We Will Take Out The S-400 If A Nato Member Jet Is Hit: Us Defence Chief by fineguy11(m): 11:24pm On Nov 30, 2015
mazeltov:
Arguing with you will be very boring!! Ok let's do it like this.... Anywhere you see an online article that explains that S-400 has more than 400km coverage and can shoot fifth generation jet like Pakfa and Raptor, then quote me or you can explain it yourself but if you can't, please don't bother yourself becuase I don't tie knots with propaganda and rope of fallacies, And one moe thing, please no insult!!! so show your heighest level of maturity!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3354866/posts?page=1
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/air-space/strike/2015/04/18/china-taiwan-russia-s400-air-defense-adiz-east-china-sea-yellow-sea/25810495/
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/s-400-triumph-air-defence-missile-system/
pls correct yourself,i never said the system has a reach of more than 400km,its maximun reach is 400km..u claimed it could be taken out,i still dare u,dig up any article online that details how or if this MONSTER can be taken out...im waiting..as for 5th generation craft,read this.http://www.airforce-technology.com/features/featurestealth-dilemma-debates-heats-up-over-f-35s-radar-evading-tech-4332950/
http://in.rbth.com/blogs/2015/03/11/how_russias_s-400_makes_the_f-35_obsolete_41895
PoliticsRussia Hit Back At Turkey By Changing Syria 'game' by fineguy11(op): 10:35am On Nov 30, 2015
Moscow seems to be moving closer to a Kurdish group which Turkey calls "terrorists.
Russia is striking back after a "stab in the back by an accomplice to terrorists" by changing the "game" in Syria.http://www.aljazeera.com/blogs/europe/2015/11/russia-hits-turkey-changing-syria-game-151129172933416.html
Moscow's retaliation is not just about severing economic and diplomatic ties. It is pursuing a policy that could tie Turkey's hands in Syria.
Ankara never received international backing for a safe zone across its border, but Russia has now ruled that out.
The deployment of S-400 anti-air missiles means Russia has effectively imposed a no-fly zone over Syria.
And now, Moscow seems to be moving closer to a group that has been the US-led coalition's main ground force in Syria - a group which Turkey, itself a member of that coalition, calls "terrorists".
The Syrian Kurdish forces (YPG) is a US-backed Kurdish group that has pushed the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) back from areas along the border with Turkey.In an attempt to change the solely "Kurdish face" of anti-ISIL ground troops, it aligned with some Arab brigades to form "the Syria Democratic Forces" (SDF).
No doubt a further strengthened YPG will anger Turkey, which has long feared that Kurdish autonomy in northern Syria would stir up similar sentiments among its own Kurdish population.
The SDF are now engaged in a fierce battle with Turkey-backed opposition factions in what is considered to be an important corner of Syria - the northern countryside of Aleppo.
To be more specific: the area west of the Euphrates River, which Turkey calls a red line.
The SDF captured some opposition-controlled towns close to the Turkish border of Kilis - known in Syria as Bab al-Salameh, an important lifeline for rebel groups.
Russian air strikes have been targeting the area for days now.
US guarantees!
Control there would allow the YPG to link predominantly Kurdish villages in the north, like Afrin, to areas under its administration from the town of Kobane to the Iraqi border.
To do this, the YPG must first take control of Jarablous, an ISIL-controlled town along Turkey's border.
There was talk of a US-backed Syrian Kurd offensive in Jarablousin the summer. That never happened, as Turkey threatened a cross-border operation.
Ankara apparently got the guarantees it wanted from the US.
The Kurds won't advance in the Aleppo region, and in return the coalition would be given access to Turkey's Incirlik air base from where it can launch raids against ISIL.
Days before the Russian plane was shot down, the US said it would start an operation with Turkey to finish securing the northern Syrian border area to cut off the remaining ISIL lifeline. Since then, there has been no talk about this military operation.
Bigger picture
The rules may now have changed. The YPG has still not pushed west of the Euphrates, but along with its allies, and with the help of Russian strikes, the SDF are threatening Turkey-backed opposition groups in another key border crossing, Kilis, west of Jarablous.
Can Turkey and Russia resolve their dispute?
Losing control of the northern countryside of Aleppo would be a setback for the opposition. Turkey, too, would lose influence.
But Russian President Vladimir Putin seems to be eyeing an even bigger victory. He called on the Assad government and the political wing of the YPG to unite. This has still not happened - at least not officially.
But Syrian Kurdish officials have said they are ready to work with anyone fighting ISIL, and anyone who works for a united, secular and democratic Syria.
Such an alliance would change the battlefield and the balance of power on the ground.http://www.aljazeera.com/blogs/europe/2015/11/russia-hits-turkey-changing-syria-game-151129172933416.html

EntertainmentRe: PHOTOS From The Phyno-Fest Show In Onitsha by fineguy11(m): 10:07am On Nov 30, 2015
PHYNO-BEST RAPPER IN NIGERIA TODAY!!!
PoliticsRe: World War II: Facts by fineguy11(m): 9:12am On Nov 30, 2015
9)Over 500 aircraft rammed midair,,''men were used to clear minefields''..Hitler never stood a chance against Stalin and his crazy/tenacious army...im trying to picture an american General,giving order to his marines to walk on minefields,so his tanks can pass through......lol...
Foreign AffairsRe: Turkey Stopped Violating Greek Airspace After Russian Su-24 Downing. by fineguy11(op): 7:37am On Nov 30, 2015
cheruv:
I've read somewhere that the third world war would start as a conflict btwn Greece and Turkey...and in my opinion now is the best time for Greece to snuggle up to Russia,moreover without Russian help Greece wouldn't have initiated the Greek revolt of 1821 that culminated into the independence of Greece from Ottoman Turkey in 1830.
Greece and Serbia are the only pro Russian states in the Balkan region, and Russia won't sit idly by as any country does shit with them
i laugh when some folks say russia's ally includes just iran,north korea,china...russia has many allies among NATO members..if eventually, the time comes for confrontation,some will make deals to stay out of the war,in exchange of russia not touching their territory.Nato members like Czech,Hungary wld do that...
Foreign AffairsRe: Situation In Syria - Nairaminted's Views by fineguy11(m): 10:08pm On Nov 29, 2015
@nairaminted,u'av said it all,those guys u see here defending america are all kids who have been ''addicted and brainwashed'' by hollywood american war movies,and have since lost touch with reality..the soviet union may be dead but its heart(russia)is still breathing,and is being led by a great CZAR(PUTIN)..how i wish this could get to front page!
Foreign AffairsRe: Turkey Stopped Violating Greek Airspace After Russian Su-24 Downing. by fineguy11(op): 8:57pm On Nov 29, 2015
BlackTechnology:
cool This is the best time for Greece to get the Russians on their side against Turkey


NATO is a joke..imagine two nato members GREECE AND TURKEY engaging in mock dogfight..Lwkmd...i have said before and i'll repeat?NATO is a joke that exist only on paper..
Foreign AffairsRe: We Will Take Out The S-400 If A Nato Member Jet Is Hit: Us Defence Chief by fineguy11(m): 8:44pm On Nov 29, 2015
mazeltov:
can you imagine, one olodo up there dey tell me say S-400 can't be seen from aircraft!!
are u aware that the s-400 has more reach (400km) than any jet fighter in the world with a speed of 17,000km an hour,faster than any aircraft in the world?.and can engage up to 36 target simultaneously?pls educate us,how can such monster be taken out?
Foreign AffairsRe: We Will Take Out The S-400 If A Nato Member Jet Is Hit: Us Defence Chief by fineguy11(m): 8:30pm On Nov 29, 2015
mazeltov:
Don't mind those babies. They have forgotten that S-400 is more fixed than a moving object
the s 400 is fixed?..what ignorance...i doubt u'av seen the s 400...its fitted in a truck and could be moved easily,as easy as riding a truck...do u have any idea how many jets will have to be sacrificed just to take out a single S-400 battery?

PoliticsRe: Abacha's Loot Spent On Electricity - Okonjo Iweala Gives Account by fineguy11(m): 8:14pm On Nov 29, 2015
Pla can an economist calculate the multipier effect of the looted funds that re-looted,so we can knw how much was actually looted!
Foreign AffairsTurkey Stopped Violating Greek Airspace After Russian Su-24 Downing. by fineguy11(op): 5:53pm On Nov 29, 2015
Turkish warplanes abruptly ceased violating Greek airspace after downing a Russian Sukhoi Su-24 bomber on November 24. Previously, air intrusions made by Turkish fighter jets took place on a daily basis and amounted to thousands a year.
The data comes from a diplomatic source in Athens, cited by RIA Novosti.
The last time Turkish warplanes were spotted in Greek airspace was on November 25, when six jets, two of them carrying weapons, entered the neighbor’s aerial domain.Turkey violated Greek airspace 2,244 times in 2014 alone.
Intrusions of Turkish jets into Greek national airspace remain a constant headache for Athens. Turkey and Greece, while partners in NATO, have been adversaries for centuries. The two nations have warred with each other before and still have territorial disputes.
In particular 2014 was marked with a sharp increase of Greek airspace violations by the Turkish Air Force, which amounted to 2,244 incidents. From January to October 2015, Greece’s airspace was violated by Turkish warplanes 1,233 times, including 31 flights over Greek territory itself, according to the Greek Air Force’s headquarters. In November, before the downing of the Russian bomber, there were at least 50 registered airspace violations.
Turkish jets habitually intrude into Greek airspace over disputed islands in the Aegean Sea, provoking the Greek Air Force to scramble fighter jets to intercept. Such airborne rendezvous often end with mock dogfights, with pilots performing real lock-ons of their air-to-air missiles onto their NATO partner’s aircraft.
Athens has repeatedly raised the matter at NATO meetings. Greece’s representative to NATO last reported Turkish violations of their national airspace on November 24. The reaction of other NATO member states has been usually to sit on the fence, and Ankara continued to test Athen’s patience.
When Turkey shot down the Russian bomber on Tuesday, Greek Foreign Minister Nikas Kotzias expressed solidarity with Russia in a phone conversation with his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov.
Athens agrees with the Russian president’s assessment on Ankara’s hostile actions, which are contrary to the goals of the anti-ISIS coalition,”the Russian Foreign Ministry said, as reported by RIA Novosti.
Greece, according to its Foreign Ministry,“especially comprehends provocative moves by Turkey given regular multiple violations of Greek air space by Ankara lasting for years.”
According to Greece’s General Staff, on November 24, the day a Turkish F-16 fighter jet fired an air-to-air missile at Russia’s bomber, the Turkish Air Force made no violations of Greek airspace for the first time in a long period.
Once the Russian warplane went down in flames,“there was zero activity of Turkish aviation in Greek FIR in the Aegean Sea, and it is understandable why,”RIA Novosti cited a diplomatic source in Athens.
The Turkish Air Force also halted strikes on Syrian territory after Russia deployed S-400 long-range air defense complexes at the Khmeimim airbase in Syria’s Latakia, from where the Russian Air Force strikes Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL).https://www.rt.com/news/323861-turkey-greek-airspace-violations/

Foreign AffairsRe: Israel Reveals Russian Warplane ‘crossed’ Into Its Airspace From Syria .. by fineguy11(op): 5:30pm On Nov 29, 2015
This is how responsible nations treat their partners,with UTMOST RESPECT!!
Foreign AffairsIsrael Reveals Russian Warplane ‘crossed’ Into Its Airspace From Syria .. by fineguy11(op): 5:29pm On Nov 29, 2015
‘No need knee-jerk reaction’: Israel reveals Russian warplane ‘crossed’ into it
A Russian warplane recently entered Israeli-controlled airspace from Syria, Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon told local media. The brief intrusion was resolved quietly, with Yaalon noting “we must not automatically react and shoot them down when an error occurs."
"There was a slight intrusion a mile (1.6 kilometers) deep by a Russian plane from Syria into our airspace, but it was immediately resolved and the Russian plane returned towards Syria,"Yaalon told Army Radio.
"It was apparently an error by the pilot who was flying near the Golan,"he said without elaborating when the incident had occurred.
Earlier, General Amos Gilad, Yaalon’s close aide, said such incidents occur occasionally. To prevent misunderstandings, Israel and Russia have arranged a“hotline", information sharing and joint air exercises.
"Russian planes do not intend to attack us, which is why we must not automatically react and shoot them down when an error occurs,"Yaalon also said.
The Russian Defense Ministry has not yet commented on the statements.
On Monday, a Turkish fighter jet shot down a Russian Su-24 bomber in a rebel-held area in Syria, not far from the Turkish border. The 45-year-old pilot, Lieutenant-Colonel Oleg Peshkov, was shot dead by Turkmen militia while parachuting to the ground.
Turkey maintains the Russian bomber had breached their airspace and ignored numerous warnings.
However, the surviving pilot, navigator Captain Konstantin Murakhtin, says at no point did Turkish aircraft attempt to contact them prior to the attack.
Russia has called the incident“a stab in the back,”with President Putin ordering sanctionsbe imposed against Turkey. https://www.rt.com/news/323885-israeli-airspace-shoot-down/
Foreign AffairsRe: Turkey Apologizes To Russia Over Downing Jet by fineguy11(m): 4:37pm On Nov 29, 2015
OBAGADAFFI:
Usual rants from Russian trolls, you got the evidence you demanded.

Now you're making excuses
ur evidence is lame....if truely russia was supporting the PKK,turkey wld av made lots of noise..
Foreign AffairsRe: Turkey Apologizes To Russia Over Downing Jet by fineguy11(m): 1:41pm On Nov 29, 2015
OBAGADAFFI:
People without facts results in unnecessary emotional outburst

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/01/russia-kurds-turkey-syria-pkk-ocalan.html#

http://www.aa.com.tr/en/turkey/russian-support-for-pkks-syrian-arm-pyd-/482307
u're here crying over the PKK.,are u aware that turkey under the guise of(coalition airstrikes)have been attacking kurdish positions in syria instead of fighting isis?
Foreign AffairsRe: Turkey Apologizes To Russia Over Downing Jet by fineguy11(m): 1:37pm On Nov 29, 2015
OBAGADAFFI:
People without facts results in unnecessary emotional outburst

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/01/russia-kurds-turkey-syria-pkk-ocalan.html#

http://www.aa.com.tr/en/turkey/russian-support-for-pkks-syrian-arm-pyd-/482307
the first link u shared made no mention of the PKK,i doubt u even read that article,..its stated there boldly THE ISSUE OF THE KURDS IS SECONDARY TO THE RUSSIA-TURKISH relationship.some kurdish leaders visted moscow in their quest to canvass support for the establishment of a kurdish state does that relates to automatic explicit support from moscow?.the second link u shared is the consequence of the russian jet downing...perior to the shooting down of the jet,russia has NEVER supported the PKK but erdorgan being foolish has given the russians every reason to support them...
Foreign AffairsRe: Turkey Apologizes To Russia Over Downing Jet by fineguy11(m): 1:02pm On Nov 29, 2015
OBAGADAFFI:
Welcome Mr know all, an what is Germany, France and Italy without the US.

NATO is US in Europe.

NATO will never sanction Turkey, because they are strategic to NATO.

Where were you guys when Syria and Russia were supporting the PKK.

All the Turkish needs to do is escalate the crisis more by expelling those refugees.

Let's see if your Almighty Russian will accommodate them.
Russia supporting the PKK?u must be high of something...i challange u to dig out any article or news that even suggest the slightest bit,that russia supports the PKK..if russia had been supporting the PKK as u so think,TURKEY wld have been ALLEPO 2.0..
Foreign AffairsRe: No US Airstrikes In Syria Since Russia Deployed S-400 Systems . by fineguy11(op): 12:52pm On Nov 29, 2015
WombRaiders:
It has global repercussions as majority of muslims even here in Nigeria support ISIS and given that virtually all muslims support APC we can see why the Bokos are now supporting Turkey.
who told u majority of muslims supports ISIS?under what premise do u base your assertion?ur comment is just stereotypical and disappointing..
Foreign AffairsRe: No US Airstrikes In Syria Since Russia Deployed S-400 Systems . by fineguy11(op): 10:55am On Nov 29, 2015
NairaMinted:
The Turkish regime in recent days has been outed (to the general public - surely not to the intelligence community) as one of the sponsors of ISIS. It baffles me that some people on here in a shameless attempt to maintain their anti Putin, anti-Russian stance have now jumped on the I-Stand-With-Turkey bandwagon.

The Turkish Prime Minister has struck conciliatory tone in recent days.

The Turkish president has requested to meet face to face with Putin in Paris. Putin has rejected such until Turkey apologizes.

A retired US general who was in charge of NORAD and supervised more Soviet aircraft interdictions more than anyone else has accused Turkey of ambushing the Russian plane since we all know that 17 secs is just too short a time for the air controllers to make a decision and relay an order back to their pilot to shoot down a plane. There are several measures, including visual (seating on the wing), that could have been used to threaten any trespassing plane and force them out of restricted airspace.
Besides, the Russian jet was shot down over Syrian airspace.

Since Russia deployed the S-400, there are reports - if true- that there has been no incursions into Syrian airspace by either Turkish or American jets and this seems to be the case.
I am willing to bet that should such an incursion occur, Russia will - mark my words - shoot down any erring jet and Heaven won't fall. NATO won't come to the aid of a reckless Turkey. The body language from the likes of France and Germany suggests that they do not want war. Erdogan will be sorely mistaken if he thinks NATO will come to his aid.

I just don't get the jubilation coming from some quarters when they claim Putin is just a noise maker or hasn't lived up to his billing as a strong man!

Whilst Putin, to the disappointment of his blood thirsty detractors (aplenty here on NAIRALAND) hasn't respond with a rushed and misguided military attack on Turkey, the desperation of the West has been laid bare for all to see. This panic and desperation is twofold:

1. The US only started bombing those oil tankers only after Russia exposed the facilitators of ISIS.
Just what kind of fake war has the US been fighting against ISIS for the previous 13 months prior to Russia joining the fray if they have not been bombing the very source of ISIS's wealth? Isn't it easier to finish off ISIS by destroying ISIS's crude oil lifeline?

2. The US has also instructed its lackey and vassal state, Turkey to mass troops at its border with Syria under the guise of sealing it from ISIS. Anyone that has been following the events over the past 4/5 years will realize that is a smokescreen to the long wanted NATO invasion of northern Syria and the carving of a terrorist safe Heaven. This much has been discussed within the US Senate Armed Forced Commitee and by thinks tanks such as the Brookings Institute several times.

All Russia needs to do is stay the course, keep bombing these terrorists to smithereens which will surely drain ISIS and their ability to wage war and also frustrate Erdogan the more. So tell me if that isn't a winning strategy? The SAA has gained territory and will continue to do so as long as Russia stays the course.
Should the US and its gulf allies attempt the up the costs for Russia with more provocations or the planned land incursion, I see other players such as Iran committing more troops and perhaps even China objecting more forcefully to the US's interference with Syria. Who knows, China too many join the Russian anti-ISIS coalition!


End of story!
your analysis is spot on..i watched a clip i downloaded from youtube last night,,where aljazera's MEHDI HASAN went head to head with GENERAL MICHEAL T.FLYNN former head of US DEFENCE INTELLIGENT AGENCY!!!the man admitted point blank that they knew the jihadist/radicals were planning to cause havoc in syria and they knew the uprising in syria was mainly carried out by AL QAEDA and other terrorist groups,and that his recommendation were ignored by washington..,,and they allowed those radical groups to fester..http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/08/10/general-flynn-spills-beans-on-decision-to-let-isis-evolve-dia-report-released/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG3j8OYKgn4
Foreign AffairsRe: No US Airstrikes In Syria Since Russia Deployed S-400 Systems . by fineguy11(op): 10:42am On Nov 29, 2015
WombRaiders:
The posters you see here supporting Turkey are mainly Muslims and APC supporters.

Since Russia entered Syria they showed their true colors on ISIS.

This goes to prove what I have always known which is that majority if not all muslims support ISIS.
why bring APC into this.pls this has nothing to do with nigerian politics..
Foreign AffairsRe: No US Airstrikes In Syria Since Russia Deployed S-400 Systems . by fineguy11(op):
ValerianSteel:
Lies which Erdogan is begging grin

Turkey won't apologize for downing Russian warplane says Erdogan- http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/26/middleeast/syria-turkey-russia-warplane-shot-down/

Putin is busy bitchhing all over the news with his silly propaganda while Turkey remains unflinching- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34941093

You must mistake Erdogan calling for co-operation with Russia at a time when the world has a common enemy-ISIS to Turkey caving in.Turkey is not rules by a fvcking bitchhy dollop head who needs to be taught diplomacy 101 all over- http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/27/middleeast/syria-turkey-russia-warplane-shot-down/
JIHADIST ALERT!!!u'av spoken well,like the true terrorist u are..why didnt erdogan come to the aid of his terrorist TURKMEN when they were bombed the hell out in that same border where the russian jets was shot down...why didnt erdogan respond when trucks comming in from turkey were destroyed at the border by russian jets?the foolish sultan feels too big to apologize in the media,but wants to do so(privately) at the climate summit...

Foreign AffairsRe: No US Airstrikes In Syria Since Russia Deployed S-400 Systems . by fineguy11(op): 10:24am On Nov 29, 2015
ValerianSteel:
All you Cocksuccking Putin lovers please quiet the Disney fairy tales being told to you by Sputnik and RT.Too much propaganda damn it.What does Russia feed you guys that you keep rocking hardon for the mudaffucckinng country.

The S-400 as advanced as it is can and will be beaten,it is foolish for anyone to think that the U.S. and NATO have not deviced means to cripple it.

Every nation has it's own military industry,they build weapons to defend,some build weapons for aggression,while countries like the U.S. Outsmart countries like Russia in their race for domination and power projection by building weapons to counter or compete with the ones built by countries like Russia.

They've been ranting like bitcches for days now,forgetting to conduct sorties against ISIS instead they are focused on a vengeful path against Turkey,releasing more and more propaganda against Turkey.

If Russia has got the balls,let her send her naval fleet to the Mediterranean and test her powers,even Russia will know there are some people you just don't mess with,instead she's hiding her frigates in the Caspian Sea protected by Iran,dollop heads need to learn how to play the game,they are learners as far as am concerned. undecided
we putin lovers dont suckcocks its a taboo,,but u american crack heads do,,its allowed in ur constitution,why dont u leave my thread and go make some nigger happy with ur lips?
Foreign AffairsRe: Turkey Apologizes To Russia Over Downing Jet by fineguy11(m): 8:02am On Nov 29, 2015
DerideGull:
Germany is lightweight in NATO. Turkey did not partake in the shot down of Su-24 alone. You should bear in mind that the fighter that downed the Russian bomber was F-16 fighter jet. The shoot down was simply an ominous message to Russia to thread carefully in its air war in Syria
GERMANY IS LIGHTWEIGHT IN NATO?this is the dumbest comment on this thread...please tell us,who is the heavyweight in NATO?

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