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homesteady:
Exactly, he became complacent. I've not done any exercise for months now, but Suarez that is a professional footballer is fatter than me.

As for me, he deserves whatever embarrassment he is getting now. He can't act like shit and don't expect to be treated like shit. Look at Benzema, that guy had to lose weight so that he can effectively lead Madrid, but Suarez decided to get fatter and fatter.

This is too lethal.... Give the man some respect, please. He deserves it

DissTroy:
Koeman is right. Rakitic, Vidal, Arda Turan and the likes have and will never have the Barcelona DNA. I've mentioned it on this trend in my last post a week ago. Those players should never have adorned a Barca jersey in the first place. Heck! Griezmann shouldn't even be in a Barca first team.
With Barca it's more than winning games - it's about how the games are won.

Countinho should never have gone on loan. He's Barcelona - he has that thing about him.

Take Rakitic away from your list of players that aren't Barcelona fitted.


That guy was a good baller in his days..

sebod:
suarez a Barca legend? i reject that.......

Yes, he is.

In fact, he's ARGUABLY the best No. 9 Barcelona ever had.

brandon180:
To be honest, I do not see any difference between mbappe and Dembele.

Hehe he, you'll need more than an eye doctor bro..... The difference is glaringly OBVIOUS.

Nezzjnr:
You guys should sell Messi 1st to a top side club and mistakenly meet him again

You guys will feel what other clubs are feeling whenever they meet Messi

Is it not madness to even consider that?

We faced ordinary Thiago n Coutinho and we were battling to catch our breadth... Imagine say na Messi? I'm pretty sure our middle name will be "EMBARRASSMENT" in block letters.

BykeLaByke:
See the wingers doing work vs Bayern.



Baarca started against them with 4 midfielders ffs.

4 midfielders that included Roberto... Setien was indeed clueless.

haymekus:
You’re the most insensitive barce fan I have ever seen

Infact you’re just a Messi ass-kisser

He spoke the truth bro... Despite being past his prime, there are few ( or should I convincingly say, none) players that have measured up to Messi post-prime era.

For Barcelona fans wanting Messi to leave so we can build a younger, formidable team, I hope you remember that it has cost Barcelona zillions of dollars to get a replacement of Neymar. Have we really found any yet?

How.about Iniesta, Xavi, and Puyol? We still haven't found any.

Ronaldinho's departure wasn't felt because we already had a stabilized replacement...

Brothers, we seem to have become unnecessarily unapologetic and unappreciative of what the "little magician" has done for us over the years.


We need a better team, yes, but not at the expense of Messi.

usbcable:
i dont want and dont see Messi leaving the club.

Not even at this moment that the season starts next month.

that will be a problem for both him and any club he chooses.

The Club needs to think through what it wants to do. Rushing to take decisions with the rush of blood to the head maybe counter productive.

Infact i dont see many of the "so called" old guys leaving immediately. They are the experience that any young blood brought in will feast on for guidance

I think I get Tespidd point now. And he's right.

We need some other person to motivate to win and it really doesn't have to be Messi. But then, if he does, it is another feather to his cap.

As for the Ronaldo part, there were players stepping up for him in the international stage. Fks, he didn't even play in the final.

jpmoriarti:
After 4 consecutive humiliations in Europe, i wont hesitate to say Messi could be part of Barcelona's problem today. We have to move forward from him and build a really competitive team once again. We might even need to strip the captain armband from him, should he choose to stay. His four year captaincy has been a total disaster. It is no coincident that we last tasted true leadership the year before he assumed that throne.

Iniesta was the captain against Roma, remember?

Messi's problem and its impact on the team lie within not being physical enough to show disgust for his other teammate's mediocrity. If not, we don't have a problem with him.

jpmoriarti:
Nothing. Messi and Co were just strolling around while a second tier liverpool, with belief and vigour, kept pushing for more goals. Same thing happened against Bayern, Roma, Juventus. Apart from sentiments and emotions, I don't think Messi should still remain after the pending squad clearance. He hasn't offered much to the team when the UCL tide are against the team in the last four years.

It is very convenient to keep blaming the board while most of players including Messi keep churning out incredibly shameful performances after shameful performance in UCL.

Now this is getting extreme. We've started neglecting what the real argument is.


Saying Messi doesn't deserve to be in the team overhaul is way too much. We won't even have a morale if he's not there. This guy single-handedly took us past Utd, Chelsea, Roma(First-leg), Liverpool(First-leg), and even Napoli (this season).

My problem with him now is; he needs to start stepping up vocally and start being physical when it appears that all he has labored for is going into shambles. He needs to start letting his teammates know that he's human and not alien who wouldn't mind what happens next. He needs to start allowing them know that, although he's still the best, they need to start complimenting his efforts by putting in more work, themselves. They should be able to pick him up when down.

These are what I am fighting for, not Messi leaving the team. He still has a LOT to offer us.

TLona1:


Ramos has been in Madrid for over 12 years. Why doesn't he have 12 UCLs with his leadership qualities?

Pure and absolute nonsense

This same Ramos struck the last header that led to a goal against ATM in the UCL.

He took down Salah, albeit expertly, to weaken a fierce Liverpool's attack in the UCL final.

This same Ramos, won the UCL, threes time back to back and you say he's not a leader?

How about the Euros and WC in 2012/10?

How many times will something happen to you without learning?


Barcelona was hammered 4 consecutive years and nothing serious was done both on and off the pitch.

A single goal or thorough defending could have saved us all these embarrassments. Charging players to continue even in the face of dilemma is obviously not a bad idea.

What happened to the never say die attitude that we exhibited against PSG in Camp Nou?

We have lost the touch of vocal/physical leadership both on and off the pitch and that's the fact.

No need to stress nonsense.


We need more than just talent... We need a vocal leader. A fighter, that knows when to tell his teammates to continue even in the face of troubles.

SonOfAfonja:
Bro, I think he’s right....that 5% is seemingly inconsequential to a tired leg.

More so, can Ramos yell at a Ronaldo or Messi?

There's this match I saw Puyol yelling at Busquet and Iniesta. This game, we were losing 2-1 to a bottom-placed team and our mastereos were playing really sluggish. Immediately, these two got their rhythm right and we went on to win 5-2.


How about the impact of JT and his influence on Chelsea? I remember Lampard and Drogba affirming that they always had trouble in the dressing room whenever they were playing badly and somehow, whenever they got back after the break, they manage to scale through.


My brother, it's not really about shouting. Who that one help? It's about letting your teammates see that you're not pleased with their passion for play and encouraging them to work better.

And Yes, when you recognize there's a major difference btw having an exquisite work ethic and off-job romance, you'll know that anybody can yelled at to make a difference.


Messi na still the boss, so there's no person in that team he can't yell at if there's need to. That's why he's the captain.

tesppidd:
Let's not look for scape goats where there are none.

Leadership on the pitch is a problem Yes, but it's only max 5 percent of the problem.

70 percent of the problem is having too many tired legs in the team.

And yes we saw how Ramos' leadership skills led Real Madrid past Ajax and Man City.

Somehow, I think this post is sentimental. There's quite a lot that the seemingly 5% can do. It can revive a weary mind, rejuvenate tired legs and lift spirits to help the 70% come into manifestation. Of course, he might not have been able to do that all that against City but trust me, bro, should we have someone vocal enough with enough team respect, the shame of Roma, Liverpool or Bayern might have been averted. Not saying it won't happen, it might not have happened.

joviegghead:
Just to correct you, barca has no leader on the pitch.
Messi isn't a leader(that guy annoys me even tho I love him) , neither is Pique nor any other player.
Messi is just dull has a captain. That's another reason the team plays without anyone to bring them to their senses.

Seconded

andrewbaba44:
Alba play a second fiddle as if we have better LB

Alba cant play second fiddle to junior firpo

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Of course, not Firpo. I'll prefer Alba over that lad any day

tesppidd:
I won't lie Pique has been trying ooh..

Pique is still good. And with a younger Lenglet by his side won't be bad.

It is not uncommon for the top defender in any team to be made a scape goat after such drubbing.

Even a whole Boateng still dey the team wey spank us.
Ramos collect 5-0 from us and him collect from Robben well well.
Even VDK don collect.


Honestly among the oldies I would root for Messi and Pique only; to remain in our starting eleven.

Is Messi's place even debatable?

That one is a done deal.

Olamyyde:
Alba is still good defensively. It seems he learnt his lesson from anfield. After davies and Robertson I still think he's the best lb in Europe.


Busquets on the other hand has been finished Roma in 2018. he has no business being on the bench sef. I still don't understand how he got a massive pay rise.

I refuse to agree to this. Alba needs to play second fiddle even if he's to stay. He is done defensively ( Youll have to prove to me how he has improved defensively work facts and not just speculations) and we need a tougher, talented and precise lb and Alba just offer only 40% of that.

joviegghead:
And can we trust Grizou to always deliver as a no 9.
If Dembele and Messi are occupying the wings, that means Fati, Trincao and Pedri will warm bench tire.

BTW, how come no one is talking about Braithwaite?

Braith gini? Nwokem talk another thing.


We got that guy at the spur of the moment and trust me, he's not a fit.

He might be tough but there's more to be a Barcelona player, more so, a striker.

Adiwana:
Nah, Pique should leave after Alba and Suarez goes first. He has tried for us and is a legend of the club no doubt but man he's not offering any other thing at this point. I would've trusted in him staying if we were getting that on-field presence like Ramos or that leadership morale like Puyol but we are clearly getting non of that. Not to even talk about his own contributions to the off-field problems as one of the key senior players who have been clashing with those who run this club. He should go and will be welcomed back to take a more administrative role in the future

Lol. You are funny.

Pique might be slow but saying he's not offering anything else is too harsh. Boss has won more aerial duels in the box than any other player and has one of those precision passes from the defense line to the offensive. Agreed, he has passed his prime, but it's still very much conducive to see him on the bench as a sub to key down already won games.

Awesome01:
In this rebuilding process do we need an injury-prone Dembele? He is just a waste of precious money to me; plays like 5 games in a season.

We can't say for sure what he might be bringing up next? The dude is good but he needs to flee injury as much as he can. Maybe he should just hire a personal therapist. It should help.

Olamyyde:
Vidal should leave abeg. Busquets salary is too high to be a sub. Either he takes a massive paycut or leaves.

Alba is still good, he and de jong were the only good players against bayern.

Alba is a disaster defensively. Maybe we need to groom Firpo to be sharp offensively but then, for how long will that be?

Busquet.... I don't even know what to say about him.

joviegghead:
Vidal can go. He might have aggression on the pitch but honestly, the young boys will do so better without getting their hands dirty.
Can Pique survive against a sharp, fast attack. He's past his prime.
I will love to see what Koeman will do to Coutinho(although he wants van de beek).
Umtiti can stay.
But I'm still racking my heading concerning where Messi will play that won't affect the other attackers . Right? No 9? Attacking midfield?

Baba, Messi can play either the Totti's style or maintain the right wing with option to switch to full 9 position.
Again, he can still play behind strikers with a midfielder (with the ability to play splitting passes)...

Baba should forget the free role now. He's getting old. Not like he won't excel but he needs enough rest and less intensity to maintain balance.

homesteady:
The Coach can't just chase them away... the club can only frustrate them into leaving. It's just like Madrid and Bale.
Madrid just had one Bale, we are about to have plenty Bales.

I'd prefer they leave honorably. Some of these guys have paid their dues. They are only being victims of age. I pray other suitors come and employ their services.

Barcelona is tired of them.

barackodam:
Rakitic, Vidal, Coutinho, Umtiti.

Those are the easy offloads.

Suárez won't leave.

Roberto can, but if the gramps can't leave, why should he?

I feel say we still need Coutinho, Pique and Vidal. Not to forget we have another "ancestor" joining us soon (Pjanic).

Rakitic, Umtiti, Alba, and Suarez ( I hate to admit this guy) have to leave.
So make we know as e go day do us.

tesppidd:
Suarez, Rakitic and Roberto must leave. Even if it means to kidnap their mama at gun point.
They are wasting our space.

Busquets, Alba and Vidal should stay but chop bench. If they don't want bench let'em go.

Pique should still be in the first eleven.

You no well o

joviegghead:
Then they'll be benched and will hardly play. They'll get frustrated and will leave. Whether they refuse to go or not doesn't bother the club(maybe the money for their sale will but it doesn't matter ). They're done.

It doesn't bother club you say?

Who'd be paying their wages? Why will we have over 4 players receiving as much pay as our benchwarmers? E get as e be now.


They need to go to allow other talents to flourish. We won't want to be paying for a job not done.

homesteady:
I knew they wouldn't leave so easily, I even posted here that it is mostly Chinese or American clubs that will buy them and still give them a high salary like they are getting at Barcelona.

The club can't just chase them, the worst thing that can be done is to ostracize them by keeping them on the bench or just sending them straight to Team B.

They can't play in Team B.... E get as be now.
Make them day go.... They have tried.

O. Guardiola, can you just borrow our next coach small from your balls of steel?

homesteady:
From some legit sources on Twitter, they are claiming that all those players don't want to leave. You know the players right?

I swear, I read it somewhere that Busquets and Roberto agents claim that the duo isn't planning on leaving yet.


I don't even have a problem with Busquets so long as he plays second fiddle, but you see that Roberto, he no get business for our team again.

biomustry:
..

How are we sure he'll not go down the Abidal's lane?

He was his assistant for two years and we all knew how everything went.

tesppidd:
Here below is a good example of why you cannot just wake up one morning and be shouting; this one go, that one go.
Busquets go, Pique go, Alba go, Suarez go, Vidal go, Rakitic go, Roberto go, Messi go.


You can't spend money and wipe out the entire squad and then expect them to immediately hit the ground running and coman win champions league for you.

The truth remains that it is practically impossible for all the oldies to go this summer..
Before you realise it you'd be battling for Europa league spots.

*I see Pique, Alba and Roberto staying.

*I see Suarez, Rakitic, Busquets and Vidal leaving.

If we achieve this, it would be a very good first step towards the rebuilding process.

All those here fantasizing and expecting a total clear out of 9 of the oldies is on a long thing.

I'll prefer Alba, Umtiti, Rakitic Suarez and Roberto to leave. As for Vidal, Pique, and Busi, play them secondarily.

Adekaka12345:
It is not emotional. Would they do that for Arsenal/Man UTD/Chelsea with a large fan base in Nigeria? You don't toy with football fan base when you are dealing with adverts. They are just lucky it is Barcelona. That was bad advertising...

Brother, the advertising was cool. It's a hook. Something that'd want you to know more. It isn't necessarily trolling per se. They saw something that would basically won them more customers a d they exploited on it. Only people with no sense of reasonable justice will see it otherwise.