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BackllGodNaija:
You said God hears the thoughts of the deaf.



So going by your comment, it means a deaf man doesn't need to confess with his mouth to be saved as Paul had said, which is an admission that saying of Paul was not inspired of God but of men because it's not true. The truth is a sinner as the dumb can be saved without confessing with his mouth but with (the thoughts of) his heart which happens to be the message of this thread.

You never categorically wrote about the dumb.
Then I might not have inclined to disagree with you.
And you didn't say they could pray in their minds. I said that.

Your idea was that penitence alone could produce salvation, but that's unscriptural.
Sins must be confessed if they are to be forgiven.
By our words we shall be justified.

But God is orderly and won't pay upon man more than what is just.
To whom vocality is given, speech is expected.
The case of the dumb and deaf are clearly exceptional.
But I tell you that even those people have a way of speaking with God.
Wild animals cry unto God when they're in want of food or water, and God says He hears them.
And if the deaf and dumb don't speak that way God enables them to, then they won't be forgiven.

BackllGodNaija:
Sorry but you said a man doesn't need to confess with his mouth to be saved after trying in vain to defend the error which you said was inspired by God. You're already in hell for your lies, unrepentant heart, and pride. Only confirmation left.

Quote where I said that or admit you're a marvelous deceiver.

BackllGodNaija:
You seem to have no sense of dignity because look at how after arguing blindly, you're now shamlessly accepting that you've been wrong all the while, while I've been right. So it's now you know God hears thoughts when I been saying it since in the Op but you came and started speaking out of the abundance of your ignorance.

You should take a deep breath and look at the rubbish you posted desperately trying to disguise the fact that you're wrong from the onset.

At least now you've, even though reluctantly and indirectly, admitted that saying was not inspired of God's Spirit but of man because man doesn't need to confess with the mouth to be saved.

Stop lying.
I can't admit that you're right and Paul is wrong.

Hell is sure for your likes that twist the scriptures.

BackllGodNaija:
You're obviously a worshipper of men, because the same men Jesus said were all brethren and that He was Master, you're now making the saying of Jesus about salvation of no effect by positing that error of one of them as the Word of God.

If you continue on this destructive path, you'd eventually be destroyed for lack of knowledge.

Obviously your scripture quotations have proven who your lord and holy spirit really is and it's certainly not Jesus and the Spirit of God.

You're an antichrist.

That's whom you are.

BackllGodNaija:
You keep dodging glaring instances that prove that you're walking in error. I asked you how the dumb and mouthless would confess with their mouths unto salvation you dodged it. I asked if both Paul and Peter were inspired of the Spirit of God when they disagreed on a subject, you also dodged it to prove that you are just blindly following such a teaching even though it contradicts the Word of God and His Will that no man perishes.

Paul himself also said "a man believes with his heart", which is all Jesus said a man needs to be saved, so that can be said to be inspired by the Spirit of God, and why, because it's in accordance with God's Word. But he added confession of the mouth which God never said and is contrary to what God said to show that it wasn't inspired by God's Spirit but his flesh.

You don't really love God because if you did, when you're shown such glaring error which makes it impossible for the dumb and mouthless to be saved, you would humbly acknowledged it even though you had previously considered it to be God's Word. I'd like to see how you evangelize to the dumb or mouthless, and teach them that those who can't confess with their mouths can't be saved.

I pray the Holy Spirit would deliver you from viewing such words of men as the Word of God.

Your blasphemy will destroy you.

Do not refer to God's words received by the revelation of Christ as the words of men.
And you cannot make the Holy Spirit's word inferior to those of Christ my God.

Now know your verdict and the source of the Epistles:


Galatians 1:9, 12 (KJV) As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

BackllGodNaija:
You keep dodging glaring instances that prove that you're walking in error. I asked you how the dumb and mouthless would confess with their mouths unto salvation you dodged it. I asked if both Paul and Peter were inspired of the Spirit of God when they disagreed on a subject, you also dodged it to prove that you are just blindly following such a teaching even though it contradicts the Word of God and His Will that no man perishes.

Paul himself also said "a man believes with his heart", which is all Jesus said a man needs to be saved, so that can be said to be inspired by the Spirit of God, and why, because it's in accordance with God's Word. But he added confession of the mouth which God never said and is contrary to what God said to show that it wasn't inspired by God's Spirit but his flesh.

You don't really love God because if you did, when you're shown such glaring error which makes it impossible for the dumb and mouthless to be saved, you would humbly acknowledged it even though you had previously considered it to be God's Word. I'd like to see how you evangelize to the dumb or mouthless, and teach them that those who can't confess with their mouths can't be saved.

I pray the Holy Spirit would deliver you from viewing such words of men as the Word of God.

Peter and Paul disagreed on a subject?
You don't read the Bible really.

Touching the dumb and deaf, do you know that they are able to express thoughts?

God hears those thoughts.
In every way, faith must be expressed by words of the mouth for those who speak and by actions and thoughts for those who don't.

Faith without work is dead alone.

BackllGodNaija:
How ironic when you're the one doing the bolded you're accusing me of. Jesus didn't say everything we needed to hear, yet you equate the Spirit of God to mere men? You're the one greatly erring, belittling the Holy Spirit, dishonoring Jesus here, therefore you need to say the bolded to yourself.

I just thought you'll understand that the words of the Apostles were the will of the Spirit, but you still failed to acknowledge that.

I pray their light will change your life.


2 Corinthians 4:6-7 (KJV) For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

BackllGodNaija:
Lol! I asked for where Jesus Himself who paid the ultimate price for mankind's salvation said man needs to confess with your mouth to be saved, instead of doing that here you are showing me what Peter one of his disciple said about Paul. Okay here what Paul said about the same Peter who said this about him:

Galatians 2:11-14
But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

So tell me if both of their words and actions were inspired by the Spirit of God on that occasion when they disagreed? That should show the error in positing every word they said or action they took as inspired of God's Spirit. God's Spirit cannot disagree with Himself... Only humans can.

You greatly err.
Jesus our Lord didn't say everything we needed to hear.
You're belittling God's Spirit.
You're dishonoring Jesus in the same vein.

John 16:12-14 (KJV) I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
He shall glorify me: for HE SHALL RECEIVE OF MINE, AND SHALL SHEW IT UNTO YOU.

BackllGodNaija:
Paul you know, Jesus you don't know, that's why you'd make the saying of Jesus concerning salvation to be of none effect with that saying of Paul. If you truly know Jesus show me where He also made the confession of the mouth a requirement for salvation. I don't mind being an NL deceiver to you if that's what it means to posit the saying of Paul which clearly contradicts that of Jesus, as that of man and not God.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that [b]whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

2 Peter 3:15-16 (KJV) And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

BackllGodNaija:
Paul you know, Jesus you don't know, that's why you'd make the saying of Jesus concerning salvation to be of none effect with that saying of Paul. If you truly know Jesus show me where He also made the confession of the mouth a requirement for salvation. I don't mind being an NL deceiver to you if that's what it means to posit the saying of Paul which clearly contradicts that of Jesus, as that of man and not God.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that [b]whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

The Bible also you don't know:

Acts 19:15 (KJV) And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?

BackllGodNaija:
Lol! Even the words of the devil in the Bible were inspired by God's Spirit?

And you think you're not ignorant of the Truth?But feel free to continue in it, as you seem determined to remain so even though it's been hence exposed.

Paul I know;
Jesus I know.

Who's this NL deceiver, please??

BackllGodNaija:
You mean leave man's word as it is? Obviously you had no answer to my question to prove it's man's word not God. That you're not sure doesn't include me, for what you're claim to be surrounded by haziness is clear to me, but what you claimed to be a clear scripture is clearly not of God in my opinion, because God wouldn't say He "so loved the whole world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life," and later say "if they confess with their mouth they shall be saved", because believing in Him only requires the heart.

Man adding "confessing with the mouth" to what God said, has only succeeded in depriving some men (the world) that God so loved and gave His only His begotten Son to save, of the gift of salvation that God gave, and that's what you do whenever you posit that saying of men as the Word of God.

If you can't prove how the dumb or the mouthless can confess with their mouth unto salvation, then you've hence proven you have no case.

Words inspired by God's Spirit are man's words?
Pathetic.
I didn't know you were a special breed of unbelievers.

BackllGodNaija:
I wonder why you people would not be afraid to posit the thought of man as that of God. If you really feared God you wouldn't dare do such a thing. Otherwise you'd tell me how the dumb and those without mouths pray with their mouths to God? Or are you saying that they can't pray to God and can't be saved?

As for the woman, you're not even sure if she prayed with her mouth but regardless Jesus said she was saved. From the reasons Jesus gave which led to her salvation, none had to do with what she said with her mouth.

God doesn't follow the rules of men, it's men that ought to follow His.

Since I'm not as sure as you, why don't you just leave God's word the way it is? Why try to abrogate a clear scripture with one surrounded by haziness?

The Bible account of Genesis says Jacob wrestled with the angel.

Little do we know that he was crying and praying along.

Hosea 12:4 (KJV) Yea, he had power over the angel, and prevailed: he wept, and made supplication unto him: he found him in Beth-el, and there he spake with us;

The woman in question may have been supplicating even before that encounter and the depth of her penitence could have left her heavy-hearted and speechless thereafter.

Remember that Hannah prayed to the point she became speechless.
You can't just conclude that the woman you're referring to wasn't praying while she made the other gestures.

I wonder why you people are not afraid to take away from the scriptures.
If we fear God, we won't easily opine inferred thoughts as His holy will.

Either respect or be wary of guts wherever you find it.

MondayOsunbor:
please do not be deceived
it will happen when the oil runs out even then the country will be Chinese territory

This will be the height of the tragedy of a people.

It will happen one day.

Divide and misrule will certainly die.

Cultists may want to use the opportunity to settle their scores.

Source.

Dotherightthing:
21. Please spell words correctly when you post, and try to use perfect grammar and punctuation.

He's trying to emphasise those words in particular.

Read like you're human and not like an ICT device.

A strong message, I sense.

BUT
YOU
PEOPLE
WERE
ALL
SAYING
IT
WAS
A
SCAM.

amakadlite:
please do you know these people testing positive in River state and their locations? community transmission is beginning to spread in portharcourt, we are no longer safe here.

I've no idea, dear.

PinkStarsFallIn:
my dear, the truth is, if not for the foreign media some of us are exposed to.
Its hard to beelieve its exist in this country cos apart from those update u see in figures, can u mention any other evidence that supports it?

You're actually right about this.

otokx:
People just don't care anymore, many don't believe.

My dear, they are so bold when they say they don't.

In my part of Rivers State you could notice that using facemasks was getting odd.
In the past few days, the number of those using facemasks dropped significantly.
Now see.

Interesting.

Georgry:
What the tyrant governor just did will discourage investment in his state.
Now the man may never build anything in Rivers state again, he will decide to invest everything he has in Lagos, so las las who loose?

And the Ipob people will be supporting him on Twitter. The reason Lagos is developing at a very fast pace is the ease of investment, a sane government should at worst take over the management of the hotel till certain obligations are met, at this rate of destruction and auctions of properties if this covid-19 linger for 1 year or more, there will be no more hotels or cars remaining in Rivers state before the vaccine is discovered

Open up other seaports and see what will happen.
How many Covid-19 fatalities has Lagos registered?
If one hotel is demolished to save one life, it's a heroic deed.

Touching.

They don't know that here in Nigeria
SENSE reigns supreme.

Wait and see.

Vitamin K.

My suggestion.

MODFIED
Na wa o.
I'm not saying that it's the solution.
I'm only thinking that the proliferation of the vitamin may be a reason.
But that mightn't be right since the patients have no justifiable appetite.
So maybe the virus triggers the pathway of the metabolism of clotting factors by some biochemical mechanism.
Who knows?

Righteousness89:
Finally, The UN of this Generation recongnized that things are Not Normal in these times...

Finally they Recongnize THE HOLY BIBLE

The UN of these times have failed the Woman..

Since they have Recongnized that we are sliding into Biblical Famines, Then they better do what those in the Bible did when they had Problems..

Instead of donating Billions of dollars that will do nothing, They better Seek GOD'S Face as the Body that represents the World..

True.