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The haddith said when cock crow that signifies the presence of angels!! And when donkey brays that identifies the presence of shaitan Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "When you hear the crowing of cocks, ask for Allah's Blessings for (their crowing indicates that) they have seen an angel. And when you hear the braying of donkeys, seek Refuge with Allah from Satan for (their braying indicates) that they have seen a Satan." حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ، حَدَّثَنَا اللَّيْثُ، عَنْ جَعْفَرِ بْنِ رَبِيعَةَ، عَنِ الأَعْرَجِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " إِذَا سَمِعْتُمْ صِيَاحَ الدِّيَكَةِ فَاسْأَلُوا اللَّهَ مِنْ فَضْلِهِ، فَإِنَّهَا رَأَتْ مَلَكًا، وَإِذَا سَمِعْتُمْ نَهِيقَ الْحِمَارِ فَتَعَوَّذُوا بِاللَّهِ مِنَ الشَّيْطَانِ، فَإِنَّهُ رَأَى شَيْطَانًا ". *https://sunnah.com/bukhari/59/111* Ten cocks just crow here repeatedly!!! And many more donkeys keep braying repeatedly non stop!! _Does this mean angels came to my area in tens while shaitan bombarded my house in drones!!!??_ Islam is a deceit and full of joke, how can you belief this fairy tales!!!? |
Abu Dawud Book 18, Number 3579: Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab: Umar said while he was (sitting) on the pulpit: O people, THE OPINION from the apostle WAS RIGHT,cause Allah showed (i.e. inspired) him; �but from us it is sheer conjecture and artifice.� � Let's read the Next Hadith: Sahih Muslim, Book 030, Number 5831: Rafi' b. Khadij reported that Allah's Messenger came to Medina and the people had been grafting the trees. He said: What are you doing? They said: We are grafting them, whereupon he said: �It may perhaps be good for you if you do not do that,� so they abandoned this practice (and the date-palms) BEGAN TO YIELD LESS FRUIT . They made a mention of it (to the Holy Prophet), whereupon he said: �I am a human being, so when I command you about a thing pertaining to religion, do accept it, and when I command you about a thing out of MY PERSONAL OPINION, keep it in mind that I am a human being.� 'Ikrima reported that he said something like this. Lol� Muhammad was so human and fallible that he even gave bad agricultural advice that led to a rather embarrassing situation? OMG!!!��� � And Umar believed that All the Opinions from his prophet were Divine Revelations from Allah? #Pathetic � ��� 2. What does the Qur’an say about Inerrancy of Muhammad? Was Muhammad infallible as the Messenger of God, or did he make mistakes as any ORDINARY MORTAL? __ Answer: Muhammad is just a Mere Mortal and a great sinner: The Quran identified him as a sinner- Surah 40:55, Surah 48:2, and Surah 47:19 ⚫ Same with the Hadiths Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas'ud: ... (Muhammad said) I AM ONLY A HUMAN BEING and I FORGET just as you do; so when I FORGET, remind me..'' (Abu Dawud: book 3, number 1015, Bukhari volume 1, book 8, number 394) ⚫ ''Say: I am ONLY A MORTAL LIKE YOU ..." Qur'an 18:110 ⚫ Surah 17:93 . . . Say, "Glory to my Lord. AM I ANYTHING BUT A MORTAL, a messenger?" . . ⚫ Surah 41:6 Say [Prophet], "I am only a mortal like you" . . . ⚫ Quran 7:188 ] Say (O Muhammed), "I have NO POWER TO BENEFIT MYSELF, or harm myself. Only what Allah wills happen to me. If I KNEW THE FUTURE, I would have increased my wealth, and no harm would have afflicted me. ..." ⚫ [Quran 6:50] Say (O Muhammed), "I do not say to you that I possess the treasures of God. NOR DO I KNOW THE FUTURE.'' ⚫ Muhammad added that: "Every son of Adam is a sinner, and the best of sinners are those who repent constantly" (quoted in Karim's Mishkatul-Masabih, Vol. 3, p. 360). ⚫ This statement clearly shows that Muhammad himself did not believe in the sinlessness of himself nor of any prophet. ⚫ Muhammad again said ''I am a human being and I am pleased just as a human being is pleased and I LOSE TEMPER JUST AS A HUMAN BEING LOSES TEMPER'' (Sahih Muslim, Book 032, Number 6297, 6285, 6286, 6290, 6293) � Lo� and Behold�, Your Uninspired prophet Muhammad��� Samuel B Darko
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How true is this Muslim claims?! Let me buttress my point by asking few questions ▪the first revelation was sura al Alaq but how did it get to number 96?! ▪was Quran revealed with the diacritical marks, if not who placed them?! ▪the verse of stoning read during the time of Muhammad, now missing out from the Quran!!! Tell me this is not editing ▪the adult breasfeeding was abrogated to *five suckling* yet we cannot find the five suckling verse of adult breastfeeding in the Quran?! Where is the verse?! ▪quran was revealed in seven harufs/readings, uthman standardised the Quran and codified it which got on print 1924!! Where are the other six missing readings today? Is this is not editing?! ▪where is the remaining chapter of ibn massud Quran!! No more in today's Quran. Has this not been expunged! ▪who is saying *bisimilahi ramoni rahim* in the opening of Quran? Tell me it is ALLAH praising himself or is this addition!! ▪ is suratul fathia a prayer for the Muslim or was it a prayer of Allah?!! Tell me this not corruption!!! ▪ Allah caused Muhammad to forget some verses yet bring *similar* or better verses!! What do we call this elimination by substitution?!! .................................. Without abuse or digression I want a sincere Muslim who can take me up on this questions one after another respectively!! fsp, November, 2017 http://www.sellnothetruth.com/forum |
smoy:Read the OP and respond to it pls no red herring |
Lomprico2:Really |
Is this a variance or not!!! |
whenever we engage Muslims in dialogue and were asked to show one evidence or another like for instance explain HOW GATHERED JESUS UP ABOVE TO HEAVEN* or *HOW ALLAH MADE CRUXIFICTION APPEAR SO etc Muslim dawah preachers had been trained to say either allahu Allan or worst still *the Quran is not a story book* HOW TRUE IS THIS CLAIM?! in fact Quran is not only a story but Allah is the best story teller!! Let Allah himself speak from his Quran Sura 12:3 نَحْنُ نَقُصُّ عَلَيْكَ أَحْسَنَ الْقَصَصِ بِمَا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ هَٰذَا الْقُرْآنَ وَإِنْ كُنْتَ مِنْ قَبْلِهِ لَمِنَ الْغَافِلِينَ (Sahih International) We *relate to you, [O Muhammad], *the best of stories* in what We have revealed to you of this Qur'an although you were, before it, among the unaware. ............................. Bonus of quranic verses talking about Allah the story teller............. Sura 7:7, sura 18:13, and sura 28:3 said WE RECITE TO YOU In summary , we agreed bible contain stories and it can be called a book of stories!! But now what does Allah called Quran? *Best of stories* and he himself *the reciter* and *narrator* of story!! ................... Happy Sunday to you all Fsp, November 2017 http://www.sellnothetruth.com/forum |
modash:where is that injil brought by jesus and is it a physical book or in the memory of eesa? |
plainbibletruth:you are indeed a blessing. hope to meet you |
modash:Ok if the Injil is not NT pls tell us about the Injil people of the gospel must obey!!! |
iamgenius:Instead of abusing me, why not respond to the post!!! Your response is just too far from bring an answer to the above |
RealLordZeus:Can you quote me a single verse where it says Allah wrote the Quran by himself!!! |
THE QURANIC DILEMMA VARIANT TEXT READINGS REVISITED - PART 1 Which reading was PRESERVED in heaven? In this multi part posts, we will focus on the dilemma of Quranic preservations, by conducting very simple observational analysis of the “Variant Quranic Readings Tradition.” Many of our Muslim friends are convinced that the Quran as we have it today is the EXACT same Quran which was revealed to the prophet of Islam. The only problem with this naive assumption is that the very Islamic traditions on Various Quranic Readings do not come close to endorsing such notion. One of the most disturbing facts about these various readings of the Quran stems from the very sobering fact that none of these traditions were reported until almost 150-200 yrs after the revelations of the Quran. Another problem has to do with the mere fact that opinions vary when it comes to what is meant by the Arabic term “Ahruf” in describing the “Variant Text Readings” of the Quran. Furthermore, all decisions regarding such variant readings are man-made at best. Take for example this Hadith tradition by Ibn ‘Abbaas who narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Jibreel taught me one style and I reviewed it until he taught me more, and I kept asking him for more and he gave me more until finally there were seven styles.” (narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3047; Muslim, 819) It is obvious from this Hadith tradition above that it was reported by Bukhari, almost 200 yrs after the revelations of the Quran, and the very tradition itself is reporting that it was a Muhammad who supposedly overruled his god by asking for more variant readings, which the pages of the very Quran itself are COMPLETELY and UTTERLY silent about! In addition, if one is to take this Hadith above seriously, then the attached photos below serve as yet another proof that such claim of divine preservation of the Quran is nothing by a mere wishful thinking, since in these attached photos from the online site listed, shows a total of 25 different readings. However, the Hadith above stayed only SEVEN! Which serves to show that when it comes to the Quran, every single decision associated with its history, collection, recension, Variant Text Readings, and standardization; every one of those decisions were MAN-MADE decisions which lack any support from the Quran itself. As a result of this simple observation, our simple questions to our Muslim friends are this: 1) Which one of these 25 Qurans below is the original one preserved in Heaven? 2) Which one of these 25 Qurans below was the original reading revealed to Muhammad by Gabriel? 3) Which SEVEN readings out of these 25 readings below were the SEVEN revealed to Muhammad? Al Fadi is an ex Muslim from Saudi Arabia
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QUICK QUESTIONS - TEST YOUR ISLAMIC KNOWLEDGE DID THE QURAN ABOLISH THE GOSPEL (INJIL or NT)? Chapter 5 if the Quran is among the last three chapters (Suras) which were revealed to muhammad before his death. In chapter 5 we read the following concerning the Gospel and its followers: “And let the people of the Gospel judge according to what ALLAH has revealed therein, and whoso judges not by what ALLAH has revealed, these it is who are the transgressors.” - Q5:47 It is obvious from this passage (Q5:47) that the people of the Gospel are commanded to follow the Gospel (aka Injil or NT). Otherwise, if they fail to do so, they will be called”transgressors.” Not to mention, that according to the Quran, the Gospel is revealedby Allah, who commanded the followers of the Gospel to follow it. Our simple question to our Muslim friends is: Can you show us any verse in the Quran that was revealed after chapter 5 was revealed, which apolished or abrogated the Gospel or Injil and cancelled it? Al Fadi is an ex Muslim from Saudi Arabia |
child marriage was the evil perpetrated by Muhammad please where are the muslims who can defend this call? |
MUSLIMS MAKE THIS CLAIM TO SAFE THE FACE OF MUHAMMAD " Aisha was actually matured at age 9 at that time she had inter course with The rasool. Things have changed overtime due to hormone, environmental change,chemical compositions" .................................. THE HADDITH FAULTS THIS CLAIM Narrated `Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for `Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fath-ul-Bari page 143, Vol.13) .................................................. Do not take my word for it check below and come back to challenge me!!! .................................................. REFERENCES https://sunnah.com/bukhari/78/157 ▪sura 65:4 tafsirs below ▪http://main.altafsir.com/AsbabAlnuzol.asp?SoraName=65&Ayah=4&search=yes&img=A&LanguageID=2 ▪http://main.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=73&tSoraNo=65&tAyahNo=4&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2 ▪http://main.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=1&tTafsirNo=74&tSoraNo=65&tAyahNo=4&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2 ▪http://main.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=73&tSoraNo=65&tAyahNo=4&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2 ▪http://main.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp? ▪(ARABIC)http://main.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=1&tTafsirNo=7&tSoraNo=65&tAyahNo=4&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=1 fsp2017 October |
newsynews:Logically muslims called Allah weak god |
*DO MUSLIMS KNOW MORE THAN THEIR GOD?* Muslims accuse Paul today that Paul corrupted the gospel of Jesus but what is it that Allah never condemned Paul for once in his book? Why did Muhammad never mentioned Paul as the one who corrupted Allah's books?!! I CHALLENGE ANY MUSLIM TO GIVE ME A SINGLE REFERENCE FROM ALLAH'S BOOK OR MUHAMMAD SAYINGS WHERE PAUL WAS CALLED AN EVIL MAN what we have instead is that Paul was a great messenger of Jesus as explained in the tafsir of ibn khathir sura 36:14 And also in his book found where he called Paul a believer in Christ ........................................ *REFERENCES* sura 3:55, sura 61:14 http://quranx.com/Tafsir/Kathir/36.13 http://library.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?bk_no=59&ID=108&idfrom=88&idto=99&bookid=59&startno=9 ................................ ................................ http://www.sellnothetruth.com/forum fsp2017 October |
Same here ysyowel: |
That is Islamic problem |
*10 Questions to ask about the Torah and the gospel*⁉⁉⁉ *1. Was the Torah and Injil sent by Allah?* Muslims: yes Muhammad: yes!! *2. Are Torah and the gospel words of Allah??* Muslim : yes Muhammad: yes *3. Can the words of Allah be corrupted?* Muslim: No Muhammad : no sura 18:27 established it *4. Were the Torah and the gospel corrupted?* Muslims: YES of course sura 2:79, Jer 8:8 Muhammad: noooooo!!! ALLAHS book cannot be corrupted Sura 18:27 sura 6:114-115 made it clear *5. When were these books corrupted?* Muslims: during the time of Paul!! Muhammad: it was never corrupted at that time because Allah wrote it with his own hands, sent it down Sura 3:3-4, sura 6:92 then I saw it the Torah and lay my hands on it *Sunan Abu Dawud 4449* ....Bring me the Torah.......and said " I belief in you and in the one who revealed you..... " *6. Where is the corrupted Torah and Injil?* Muslim: lost and forgotten Muhammad: it is with the Jews and the Christians Jami at - Tirmidhi 2653 "......the Torah and the gospel are irh the Jews and the christians..." *7. What must they do with the Torah and gospel?* Muslims: nothing because Quran is with them now Muhammad: they must judge by it sura 5:43,47, Sura 5:68 *8. What do Muslims need the Torah and gospel for!?* Muslim: nothing!! Muhammad: they should use it to clear the doubt of Muslims sura 10:94, they should also show Muslims my name therein sura 7:157, sura 61:6 IT IS ALSO A GUIDE AND MERCY sura 46:12, sura 3:3-4 *9. Is the name AHMAD actually found written in the Torah and the gospel?* Muslim: YES song of Solomon 5:16, john 1:19-21, john 14:26, john 16:13 Muhammad: yes my shortened na!e can be found severally in the Torah and the gospel as preserved by Allah watallah!! *10. But you claimed the books were corrupted ??* Muslims: *YES OF COURSE* Muhammad: ah! Ehm! The book is not the corrupted but it is not the present bible that was written by unknown authors and most if it written by Paul the liar and killer!! But the bible was the book where you quoted to be the fulfillment of AHMAD?!! Muslim: ehn ehm ehm, you are stupid and jesus is not God but a slave of Allah and you as a christian do not worship like jesus worshipped, don't ask stupid question from me pls!!! Muhammad: ehm ehm ehm!! Allahu Allam!!!!! ...................... Islam is false a sure way to hell sura 3:185, sura 19:71-72 sahih bukhari vol 1 book 12 number 770 *BUT* Jesus is Lord and saviour Luke 2:10-11 the way of life john 14:6 will you come to him mattew 11:27-28? http://www.sellnothetruth.com/forum fsp 2017 October |
THE QURANIC DILEMMA Why the Quran is NOT written by Allah? Our Muslim friends are convinced that the Quran is the word of God inspired to Muhammad through the angel Gabriel. However, a simple search through the Quran will reveal some contradictory information damaging to this fallacy. One of those findings has to do with Allah himself declaring that he HIMSELF wrote in the Psalms (Zaboor), which is according to Islam is the Book of David. This claim can be found in Q21:105 as we can read below (also see attached image): Q21:105 “Before this We wrote in the Psalms, after the Message (given to Moses): My servants the righteous, shall inherit the earth." Yousuf Ali “And WE have already written in the Book of David, after the reminder, that MY righteous servants shall inherit the Land.” Sher Ali “Walaqad katabna fee alzzaboori min baAAdi alththikri anna al-arda yarithuha AAibadiya alssalihoona” - Transliteration It is obvious from this verse that Allah himself is declaring that he wrote the Psalm after the Zikr (or Remembrance, or the advice, which is the Torah). Making It very clear that Allah is the one who wrote these two books. What is so astonishing though is that you will NOT find a single verse in the Quran where Allah stated that HE wrote the Quran! Once again, this is another proof that the Quran is a man-made product written by mere men. Our Simple question to our Muslim friends is this: Why do you believe that Allah wrote the Quran, when in fact he never said so? Does not this serve as a proof to you that your book is written by humans; such as Uthman? Al Fadi an ex muslim |
adepeter2027:God the creator is alive forever more!! |
Does God love MANKIND? There are verses where God commanded people to be killed and where total destruction was declared on people in the bible and the Quran. There ate verses in both books where we are commanded to love God and serve HIM, there is no argument about that! Please now, do YAWEH loves people he claimed he created?do Allah love mankind? Can we actually find a single verse where YAWEH/ALLAH said *I love mankind* in our scriptures?? *Allow the bible and Quran to speak* BIBLE.....1king 10:9, john 3:16, Rom 5:8, 1john 3:1, 1john 4:8-10 QURAN...... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ......................................................................... *I WANT ANY MUSLIM TO EDIT THIS AMD REPLACE THE QUESTION MARKS WITH QURANIC VERSES THAT SUPPORTED THE MOTION* no abuse no railing no rambling ..................... http://www.sellnothetruth.com/forum |
Muhammad is the best of example for the Muslim, he must be followed obeyed and made judge over their affairs Pre islamic pagans ran around marwa Amd sarfwa they also kissed the Blackstone before the advent of Islam Muhammad kissed the Blackstone as well and here is the question for the Muslims *what is the essence of kissing the Blackstone? Is it a sunnah! Or halal for the Muslim ummah today .............................. REFERENCES https://sunnah.com/bukhari/63/73 Pre Islamic paganism kissed the stone Sahih bukhari 3846 http://www.gowister.com/hadith/bukhari/4381/ Sahih bukhari 4496 Muhammad kissed the stone Sahih bukhari 1597 https://sunnah.com/bukhari/25/83 ................................ http://www.sellnothetruth.com/forum fsp2017 |
We need Muslims to explain the punishment meted to apostates here |
Quran claimed muhammad is the best example to be followed sura 33:21 sura 68:4 and the christian bible also said Christ is the best example we need to follow 1Peter 2:20-22, Ephesian 5:1-2, 1John 2:6 But how did Muhammad treated disbeliever? And how did Jesus handled similar issue? Allow the Quran, hadith and the bible to speak. *MUHAMMAD THE MERCY SENT* Sahih bukhari vol 4 book 52 number 261 Narrated Anas bin Malik: A group of eight men from the tribe of 'Ukil came to the Prophet and then they found the climate of Medina unsuitable for them. So, they said, "O Allah's Apostle! Provide us with some milk." Allah's Apostle said, "I recommend that you should join the herd of camels." So they went and drank the urine and the milk of the camels (as a medicine) till they became healthy and fat. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels, and they became unbelievers after they were Muslims. When the Prophet was informed by a shouter for help, he sent some men in their pursuit, and before the sun rose high, they were brought, and *he had their hands and feet cut off.* Then *he ordered for nails which were heated and passed over their eyes,* and whey were left in the Harra (i.e. rocky land in Medina). They asked for water, and nobody provided them with water till they died (Abu Qilaba, a sub-narrator said, "They committed murder and theft and fought against Allah and His Apostle, and spread evil in the land." ![]() https://muflihun.com/bukhari/52/261 إِذْ يُوحِي رَبُّكَ إِلَى الْمَلَائِكَةِ أَنِّي مَعَكُمْ فَثَبِّتُوا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا ۚ سَأُلْقِي فِي قُلُوبِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا الرُّعْبَ فَاضْرِبُوا فَوْقَ الْأَعْنَاقِ وَاضْرِبُوا مِنْهُمْ كُلَّ بَنَانٍ (Mohammed Marmaduke William Pickthall) When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger. -Sura Al-Anfal, Ayah 12 Sura 5:33, sura 9:5 *JESUS THE SAVIOUR* Luke 22: 60 And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest. And immediately, while he yet spake, the cock crew. 61 And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him,Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. 62 And Peter went out, and wept bitterly Joh 21:15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter,Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs. ................................................ Choose who to follow Jesus who forgives Peter and still sent him on errand or MUHAMMAD who cutt of the hands of disbelievers!!! http://www.sellnothetruth.com/forum fsp 2017 |
Deicide:Tell me more about it dear |
*MUSLIM QUERIED WHY DID GOD HAD TO DIE?* Muslims jives, screams my time a christian tell them that Jesus being the incarnate of God died for our sins, they ask why should jesus die? .............................. Allow the BIBLE to speak.... SIN ENTERED INTO THE WORLD... Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: *ADAM failed and fell to sin* Gen 2: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat of it: for in the day that you eat thereof you shall *surely die.* 23 For the *wages of sin is death;* but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Death is the punishment of SIN and God us just to overlook sin He cannot allow sin to be carpeted, *DEATH MUST BE THE WAGE OF SIN* *No man can pay the debt...* Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnessesare as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. God paid the debt HIMSELF so he had to die to pay it in full in Christ Jesus on the cross of Calvary Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, *Christ died for us.* *HE DID NOT ONLY DIE BUT ALSO RESSURECTED* Rev 1: 18 *I am he that liveth, and was dead;* and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.* .................................. Anytime a Muslims ask you this then shut their mouth with this article. http://www.sellnothetruth.com/forum Fsp2017 |
Don't liar oo She stood in the front of my back My mummy give me the calculator |
and is it a physical book or in the memory of eesa?

