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Christianity EtcRe: What Defines An "mog"? by free123: 10:45pm On Dec 05, 2010
Mordenized MOG - idolizes oneself, preaches prosperity in the highest order, tells his members that they do not operate in the same level with other xtians, interpret the scriptures to suit his worldly desires, enticing his members to believing that evry word from his mouth is infallible, pulling crowd evrywhere with sweet talks, seeks materialism - best of homes, private jet, SUVs, chains of businesses etc, doesnt preach against sin which is the cause of all our problems today.
Most of the pastors we have today are mordenized MOGs
Christianity EtcRe: Interview With Joagbaje - His Perspective On Christianity by free123: 3:08pm On Dec 03, 2010
This tithe issue, come to think of it, how many times did Abraham tithe, even Jacob or the apostles? If tithe was important considering the window of heaven that would be thrown open and showers of blessing emanating therefrom, the apostles would have taught and practiced it extensively and it would have been written severally in the Bible.
Something that was their lifestyle as claimed by joagbaje, I wonder why it was not written.
Like I said in anothe thread, tithe was for OT and not for christians because we have the door (JESUS CHRIST) through whom we can reach the Father. That window of heaven is not for us since we have the door where all the blessings are found peacefully.
I'll rather call u a thief when u leave the door to my house and pass through the window to see me.
Christianity EtcRe: What's This About Firstfruits? by free123: 10:03am On Nov 30, 2010
Ok oh! How many times did Abraham pay tithe or even Jacob? How many times did Peter, Paul and other apostles pay tithe?
Christ had paid the price my good people, and this was once and for all. He is the door through which our blessings flow. The window that blessings flew for people in the old testament who paid tithes was not for us christians since we have JESUS CHRIST AS THE ONLY DOOR TO THE FATHER.
Paying Tithe can never be the way for our blessings!
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Embassy Pastor, Chris Oyakhilome In $35million Money Laundering Scam by free123: 9:27am On Nov 30, 2010
bawomolo:
This is a typical businessman's speech in display
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Embassy Pastor, Chris Oyakhilome In $35million Money Laundering Scam by free123: 9:25am On Nov 30, 2010
bawomolo:
This is a typical businessman's speech in display
Christianity EtcRe: Adeboye With Obj, Ogd; Tb Joshua With Atta Mills. The Fruit Speaks Louder by free123: 2:03pm On Nov 29, 2010
@pmartins
who told u our leaders rely on GOD? They don't, look at our bad roads, schools, hospitals etc, GOD will not come down to put them in order, it has to be our leaders. We have all the resources to make Nigeria a great nation but our leaders will not allow that. And the worst being that these pastors will see nothing wrong with that, instead, they will praise them for a job well done.
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Embassy Pastor, Chris Oyakhilome In $35million Money Laundering Scam by free123: 7:42am On Nov 28, 2010
@ogoamaka
how do u identify agents of devil?
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Embassy Pastor, Chris Oyakhilome In $35million Money Laundering Scam by free123: 9:43pm On Nov 27, 2010
@daroz
what is fake in this post? $35m or some millions stolen from sheraton hotel?
By the way, how much would u have him swindle since he's worth millions of dollars
Christianity EtcRe: Will The World End? by free123: 9:18pm On Nov 25, 2010
Just make sure you won't argue when you are shown the signs
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Also Preached Jihad by free123: 10:13am On Nov 23, 2010
@OP
JESUS and mohamed can never be compared, JESUS never preached jihad in any form.
Christianity EtcRe: Interview With Joagbaje - His Perspective On Christianity by free123: 2:36pm On Nov 22, 2010
InesQor
a lot was posted on freemasonry, as a non member i decided to know more and the truth about them, i hope it is not wrong for someone to be part of a system to know it well b4 coming up with strong criticism. The findings will be of interest to you when I'm through, for now i am still searching.
Christianity EtcRe: Interview With Joagbaje - His Perspective On Christianity by free123: 6:26am On Nov 22, 2010
This interview has clearly shown joagbaje's view of the Bible. Lets hope the initiator of this thread wud come back soon b4 i make some contributions
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris: Prosperity By The Word by free123: 4:43pm On Nov 21, 2010
@newmi
i have never condemned Rhapsody of Reality, what i am saying is that for someone to know the genuineness or otherwise of what he is taught, he needs to think outside what is being taught and seek answers from (in this case, the Bible) natural course.

@joagbaje
can you start a thread on the teachings of Pastor Chris concerning [b]"Sin and its consequences" [/b]because it seems that what we hear from him is prosperity most times
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris: Prosperity By The Word by free123: 11:15am On Nov 18, 2010
@newmi
why people study the Bible is to have the knowledge of the word of God, to apply it in everthing they do and even to defend and counter any opposing word coming from pastors, rev fathers even angels. When people debug chris' teachings using the scriptures, i do not expect u to start pointing fingers rather develop a neutral mind and go through those teachings, compare them with what the Bible (not Rhapsody of Reality) actually teaches and come up with better defence.
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Rosary Is A Powerful Prayer by free123: 9:15pm On Nov 15, 2010
@chukwudi44
i blieve u can recite our Lord's prayer perfectly, in it, He never asked any saint or angel in heaven to pray for us, He went straight to the Father. Jesus never taught us to ask any angel in heaven to pray for us rather He said we should pray to God Almighty through Him.
Remember also when John erraneously bowed down to worship an angel in Revelation, the angel did something remarkable.
"Bible only" pls do u have another book? since u don't believe in totality, what is written in the Bible, can u share the contents of your holybook with me?
Christianity EtcRe: Whats So Bad About Celestial Church Of Christ by free123: 6:13am On Nov 05, 2010
Yummyuk
are u saying that if babalawo is doing his thing in the name of God u will accept him? If moslems are (doing their fatwah n jihad) killing people in the name of allah, u will welcome them and u wont talk because u dont want to judge them. What do u really know about judgment?
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Rosary Is A Powerful Prayer by free123: 6:30pm On Oct 24, 2010
chukwudi44:
by praying d rosary no body is going to d father thru mary .rather we are going 2 d son thru mary d same way protestants go jesus thru dr pastors when they ask their pastors to pray 4 them.by the way why u your pastors collect tithe 4 jesus i thought jesus is d only mediztor bw god n man.how come when money is involved pastors suddenly become mediators
bros, Jesus neva told us to seek Him thru Mary rather He told us to seek the Father thru Him (Jesus). The tithe u mentioned can neva be the way to God Almighty but Jesus is. I know this is too hard for u to understand just as a muslem will find it difficult to understand that his religion supports violence. Continuing studying ur bible,one day God will open ur eyes to see the truth.
Christianity EtcRe: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by free123: 12:26pm On Oct 23, 2010
What shall it profit a man to gain d whole world? Why would some people twist d bible in order to fleece people? Why hav they chosen to commercialize d word of God? These people defendin ce must have gained from ce either by learnin how 2 twist word of GOD, by curling their hairs, by swindlin people, by seducing others or by watchin d main man showoff on stage.
I do not bother myself too much because of d increasin number of ce members, this is because most people need miracles, prosperity, healing, signs and wonders (which a native dr at my back yard can do), they want to hear sweet things, and in return they are fleeced, their ailments taken to another level, false hopes given to them and above all, their sins are multiplied because repentance is not preached, forsaking one's sins (which is d cause of every bad thing we suffer today) is relegated, genuine repentance is smashed on the wall. People dont want to talk about their sins, they want easy access to heaven, lo and behold a man (whose umbrella gives absolute protection to liars, swindlers, thieves, disco dancers in d name of God) appears with goodies people are looking for.
What else can i say, be watchful cos broad is d way and thousands,billions, even trillions of people are found in d way that leads to everlasting 'had i known'
Christianity EtcRe: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by free123: 12:00am On Oct 23, 2010
Sirjohn please i am interested in d conversion, u can send mine to egbuleoha@yahoo.com so dat we can expose his worldly teachings d more
Christianity EtcRe: Freemasonry, Evil In Nigeria? by free123: 7:17pm On Oct 22, 2010
i am interested in freemasonry but my problem is how to locate a freemason. if anyone knows (especially kapten) how i can join please, call me on +2348182691052 its urgent
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Rosary Is A Powerful Prayer by free123: 7:09pm On Oct 21, 2010
grailife has refused to answer my question of God's position in his life. Is he worshiping Jesus through Mary or vice versa.
Jesus himself told us to seek the Father through Him (Jesus) but you see, man and his tradition, they have chosen to relegate God Almighty due to their ignorance of the word of God.

please grailife, there is only one God and one mediator between God and man - Jesus Christ. Jesus did not seek His Father through Mary, Angels or any other means and He did not tell us to seek Him (Jesus) through Mary or Angels rather He said that we should seek God Almighty through Him (Jesus).

This your way of worship is not biblical at all and please stop this Roman tradition!
Christianity EtcRe: Whats So Bad About Celestial Church Of Christ by free123: 6:49pm On Oct 19, 2010
@ Yommyuk
Sir, i have gone through the link you provided, it was not different from what many people are saying about it - the candles, soaps, incent, etc. my major concern is on purification and sanctification. i want to ask if these (purification and sanctification) can wash away sin because i didn't see much emphasis on sin but somethings you forbid.

i am not just comfortable with the isolation of a lady in her period and that of a nursing mother, this practice is not biblical at all.

can eating those things you forbid make one unholy

Another question is about the newly born and the kind of ritual in which some fruits, candle, honey and so;n what is this for?

can you please back these practices up with the scripture and please do not skip anyone
Christianity EtcRe: Whats So Bad About Celestial Church Of Christ by free123: 8:50pm On Oct 18, 2010
yommyuk:
most people have said that the way of worship in the church is more of fetish practice and i strongly believe that most of these white garment churches worship alike.

Have u personally attended the church to confirm these sayings or are you just one of those who believe in heresay. For clarification purposes, check a CCC near you or state your place of residence and let me recommend one to you. Then pass your judgement. That is the best way to find out.

please Sir, I was not there when all the events in the Bible took place yet i believed they took place, I do not need to visit native doctor before i believe that what he does is wrong, i do not need to attend the church before i believe what more than half of the people in this thread confirmed to be true.

can all these practices being mentioned be against the way of worship of the church while that of Yommyuk's way be for the church?
The pratices being mentioned may be true which I do not deny. But I have been a member of the church for over 35years and I believe that qualifies me to speak from personal experience. I will continue to maintain that all of the pratices mentioned above are forbidden by the doctrines laid down by CHRIST for CHRIST thru Papa Oshoffa. Have you forgotten the parable of the weeds among the wheat?

These perpetrators are there leading people astray and you are here waiting for the Harvest time. My advice is that you should take it as a duty to spread the true word of God, tell people in those areas mentioned that those practices they engage in are very bad and certainly not from God. Don't wait for God to do that for you because the more you allow those practices the more fetish the church becomes


Yesterday at our church service, we had visitors from other denominations, during the sermon, I referred to this thread and asked them whether they saw anything fetish in the worship? Bro, all we do is preach CHRIST. Surely there are shady elements among the fold and a lot of them are being dealt with by God in ways that he seems fit.

Your way might not be fetish but what people are saying here is happening life and exclusive.
Christianity EtcRe: Rev. Fr. Ejike Mbaka, Is He Real? by free123: 8:26pm On Oct 18, 2010
rotimy:
The Holt Ghost fire you shouted was not in vain, it helped to expose Chimaroke Nnamani as the best thief in the South East! He used public money to build over 170 houses, established a private University, opened a an FM station and a multi billion naira telecom outfit the Rainbownet. Fr Mbaka refused all manner of cash and gifts from the ex-governor and told the world that the man was corrupt! EFCC HAD CONFISCATED ALL THESE AND MAN'S TRIAL IS STILL GOING ON!
what are the criteria for criminal qualification? mind you i am not against Chimaroke's supposed criminality if found guilty.

you mentioned all what you thought was wrong that he did, what about the good ones? what about the law school at Agbani? what about the cottage hospitals? what about the building of roads, even in rural areas? brother i tell you, before you condemn someone totally, remember the good side and mind you, this thread is not for Chimaroke but Ejike Mbaka whose relationship with God is shaky.
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Rosary Is A Powerful Prayer by free123: 7:44pm On Oct 18, 2010
[b]
grailife:
The more we honor the Blessed Virgin, the more we honor Jesus Christ, because we honor Mary only that we may the more perfectly honor Jesus,
since we go to her only as the way by which we are to find the end we are seeking, which is Jesus.


What is the position of God Almighty in your life?
Jesus said that He is the only way through which God Almighty is sought and found. Jesus is the only Mediator between God and man. i am surprised that you did not include God Almighty in this post. Remember also our Lord's prayer. Jesus while teaching his disciples how to pray, did not include the name of those who died in God before Him. He went straight to the Father by saying Our Father Who Art in Heaven,

i think you will be on the right track if you can only honour Jesus Christ and God Almighty and pray to God Almighty through Jesus Christ without cutting corners to seek Jesus Christ.


peace be unto you.
Christianity EtcRe: Whats So Bad About Celestial Church Of Christ by free123: 10:36pm On Oct 17, 2010
Mohot made some comments and ran away, Yommyuk took over. The poster is willing to know what people think about the church and still seeks views. most people have said that the way of worship in the church is more of fetish practice and i strongly believe that most of these white garment churches worship alike.

can all these practices being mentioned be against the way of worship of the church while that of Yommyuk's way be for the church? in my view i think Yommyuk doesn't know the doctrine of the church. he has been opposing all the facts laid down by former members of the church. Majority of the members can't be wrong on their mode of worship in the church.

i think Yommyuk really needs to seek the truth. i know he knows all these but chose to defend the church, goodluck shaa shocked
Christianity EtcRe: A Chalenge For Huxley,kay 17,ogaga4luv And Other Atheists And Satanists by free123: 5:21pm On Oct 17, 2010
the OP should read the Bible more often so as not to make the mistake of putting God to test again.
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Rosary Is A Powerful Prayer by free123: 3:47pm On Oct 17, 2010
@grailife
My brother i tell you this day that there was no time Jesus gave us his mother while on earth to be our mediator. He is the only way to God Almighty. He is the only mediator between God Almighty and Man. Remember what He said about anybody trying to get to Father through other means.
why not pray to God Almighty through Jesus instead of reciting all over prayer laid down be men with their tradition even before you were born.

The word of God is very clear on this, pray to God Almighty with a genuine heart through Jesus Christ who is the only way to the Father. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Rev. Fr. Ejike Mbaka, Is He Real? by free123: 8:47am On Oct 17, 2010
This man should have been a real politician though his politicking right now, only few people can understand that. i could remember the day i went to his adoration ground, he asked us to point towards government house (during Chimaroke's administration) and shout 'holy ghost fire', as fools we were (not knowing what Holy Ghost Fire stood for, because we were never taught), we started shouting 'holy ghost fire' towards government house. This is to show you that some so-called men of God are fake, aggressive and very political. embarassed embarassed

what then is Holy Ghost Fire, this will form another thread.
Christianity EtcRe: Pst Chris Oyakhilome And T.b Joshua Are Secret Agent Of The Devil by free123: 8:12am On Oct 17, 2010
Have u ever thought of high rate of crime in this country and the increase in the number of churches? Have u ever thought of the extent to which some people can go to satisfy their pastors? If what these pastors teach is the genuine word of God, why would someone want to cut corners to meet his pastor's demand? Why would some pastors accept huge sums of money from their members without some questions on how the money came about? why would some pastors live in best homes, drive latest cars, fleece their members, watch some of their members suffer in abject poverty, seek the best comfort money can afford, have chains of businesses scattered all over the country? Well the answers are not far-fetched. Just pick up ur Bible, pray for the Holy Ghost's interpretation and u will understand that God's word concerning these pastors are fulfilling. angry angry angry

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