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femiaction:Is been a while I have done TB but with the knowledge of what I used to do. I will say the contents of this your post is actually what first bank's TB certificate of investment contains. However, your worries are germaine. Usually, after this; (Your faithfully For: First Bank of Nigeria) There is always an (authorised Signatory column above which the signature of the officer (s) assigned with the responsibility signs) in majority of the branches, it will carry 2 signatories one on the left and another on the right but some branches will carry only one. Also, some branches will Stamp it with a stamp that has inscriptions like;Team Lead Finance or that bears the name of the branch, some will also go as far as affixing postage stamp on it while others will not bother putting any stamp but in all thereis always a signature for the bank. Also, they always print two copy and ask you to write original collected by me on the duplicate that will be left with them. You should have asked them why the document was not signed by their any of their rep. That's not normal. They must be at least a signature. |
crownprince2017:You guys can be fighting your stock picks/recommendations war. That's normal. What is not Normal is putting out incorrect information. Nobody chased OGG away. He was canversing for customers and trying to divert members to his group where he offered paid service. Even though that was not in anyway a crime/offence, it negates the whole essence of this thread. He stopped commenting either because he has had enough customers to sustain his paid services or because he was no longer getting more customers from here. Nobody chased him away because of his stock picks. Also, please beware that no matter how accurate your picks and predictions are there will always be people with contrary opinions. Infact even God that created the Heaven and earth human still go contrary to his commands. The only difference between the people that fronted/marketed aradel and transpower with those in Ellahlake and Oando is the emotions and intolerance attached with Oando/ellah fans nothing more. |
Harddiskng:Yes, when it comes to contactless transactions Stanbic is the most superior as far as the Nigerian Mutual Fund space is concerned. Before they use to have the best brains there too. However, the quality of humans there now, especially those in customer service has depreciated seriously. You can never get issues resolved without being frustrated and your issues can never be resolved with just phone calls. You have to keep following them from all angles. Calling them now is tantamount to wasting of Airtime. |
Toluway:This is Nigeria Civil Service at a glance. Though majority of Nigerians are aware of laxity and redundancy within the Civil Service but it takes pure and undiluted experience to be able to capture all what you wrote. |
pluto09:Yes, I know and acknowledged that. Under normal circumstances nobody is supposed to be on lower pay again as the national minimum has already been raised to 70k but then we our things our way in Nigeria. I now understand that 800k will be exempted from being taxed. That's better. |
GeneralDae:Ok. That's better then. |
GeneralDae:One thing we are not all seeing is that except for the some people employed in private / small businesses earning between 20-60k, by the design of 70k minimum wage nobody is supposed to earn less than 800k. So nobody is exempted. Minimum wage earners earn 840k per annum and by this design are to be taxed so there is no exemption for anyone except for those in the military. |
Reduce or if possible for you, stop the consumption of sugary and junk stuff. Take Banana, Watermelon, Tigernut (Aya), Coconut, Dates (Dabino) instead and also, stop thinking too much about your recent past performance. Just free your mind off worries and you will get better with time. |
No Drogba, No Okocha, No Kanu. Enyeama too is missing. |
ghm:Two ways that I know...! The first and easiest way is to contact CSCS directly and register for CSCS access. With this you will be able to asses your stock 2 4 7 except during maintenance. Note: it's a paid service and now cost about Five Thousand Three Hundred something per annum..With this, you can view all your accounts with different brokers IF you a SINGLE CHN for all of them. However, if their CHN's are different you either have to look for a way to merge under one or open different CSCS access login for them. The second way is through AfriPrud's Invearn App. This one requires a payment of N1,000 monthly. I use the CSCS access already so I have not bother activate the paid version of this one though it's still on my phone too. So I can't tell you categorically how it works but I know some people will be using. |
Nakedman:Sorry I am just seeing your message, plus the attached just came out this week. What was available was Taj Sukuk.. which is a sort of bond but it ended on 28/7/25. So you can check it out and do your due diligence. If interested you can mail any of the contact in the picture to forward you more details. |
Nothing serious. If this or something similar has not happened before, ask her why and let her know you don't like it but if it has happened in the time past depending on what you used to save her number. Let's assume it's wifey, you too can change her to Bola- Glo assuming that's her name and where she works. |
Mpeace:Yes, that is very true. I have attended the AGMs of companies I have afolabi units especially those whose meeting is in Abuja. Infact those faces know all the CEOs and the CEO's knows them too. The shuffle between Lagos and any other place any AGM is holding. Most times the are paid extra money underground by the company. Even if you attend any virtual AGM it's still same them you will see. I guess that's their own way of making extra money from the company. However, they keep blocking the chances neutral investors with genuine concerns and needs clarification. |
Ivan18888888888:Most banks that does TB secondary market will pay you interest upfront except you request otherwise. |
Youngzedd:Unlike other Asset Managers where the daily accrued interest is separated from your principal and you can clearly see the distinction, Stanbic IBTC Asset Managers does not separate them. The only thing you will notice is that your principal grows daily if you keep tab on it. Then the interest space/column below the principal is just for you to know how much has accrued/has been added to you principal so far in that month. By the end of the month, if you chose reinvestment of interest, the interest space would be wiped off and whatever is added to your principal is documented there again for next month. However, if you chose for your interest to be paid to you, that money that grew on your principal for that quarter would be - minus from the principal and sent to your account. Yours remains the same because you chose reinvestment which means it has already been reinvest. For others like FBN Quest and UCap there is a clear distinction between your principal and interest. If you keep tab on it you will notice that the principal never grows unless you top-up your investment or interest is renovated. It's only the interest that grows. Hope you can understand this... |
Jane111:Sorry, I didn't know that's what happened. That confirmation note is the certificate/proof of investment. It carries all the terms of the transaction (date of transaction, tenure, rate, charge/ commission and VAT etc) I was thinking what you meant initially was just the transaction alert. |
Jane111:Yes, you will get a certificate. Once you confirm that your/banks bid is successful just contact them for the certificate. |
Entrepreneurrr:All merchant banks I have used do not charge extra fee as commission. (I have used Coronation, FBNQUEST, United Capital, Norrenberger and Greenwich). Only Afrinvest which claimed (when I queried them) that they are stockbrokers not usually the arranger/main agent. |
Entrepreneurrr:Sorry what I wrote is for CP not for TB. |
jp130:You will have send them a mail instructing them to do. |
jp130:Yes, I just checked now and mine has reflected. |
PharoahIII:I have not done anything investment via BlueNest since it's been launched but I believe you should be able to invest in Treasury Bill from there if you have sufficient funds in your BlueNest wallet and the TB is available. I have not tried to find wallet from another bank before. I am not sure of it's possibility because it's not list amongst the existing bank accounts you can pay to for now. The only thing I see is Stanbic IBTC @ease Wallet which different from BlueNest. Also, the bank account added to my BlueNest account is my Stanbic IBTC account. |
luciouscookie:No, you do not have to wait till maturity. You can investment in it every business through the secondary market if available or Primary Market at every auction. All you have to do is keep a form of investment dairy where you will record for record keeping and better planning. You can also collect the certificate/proof for records. |
PharoahIII:To invest in TB through any bank you will have to have an account with them. If one isn't in the country, you can mail your account officer and copy the mail Customer Service address of your bank. From there you directed on how to go. |
USA2019:The major and only advantage TB has on CP, is that CP carries more risks of default. It's been a while have I done TB via PMA. All payments due for Sukuk, bonds and FGN Savings Bonds I had before 2023 ending were coming appropriately except for 1 or 2 exceptions where the proceeds sent by CSCS bounced back due to bank issues or them inputting incorrect account number. So, when it began to happen that way I became weary of them because to me, the idea of fixed income with them was being defeated. The are all Government Securities, this I classified TB in same category. That said, CP interest is paid upfront exactly like TB. It's even better because unlike TB where the some banks like FBN and co will want investors to have the complete funds in their bank account and the money is taken into custody until after the auction before either their upfront or refund is made to them depending on whether the auction was successful or not, with CP investors only pay them the discounted value on the funding date as indicated on the issuance notice. That also give them the opportunity to invest the principal with interest by themselves and benefit the implied/true yield of the investment if they don't have urgent need for the interest. True 20% minus WHT is equal 18%. Still CP is still more beneficial in that aspect. All fees of CP's are borne by the issuer. No commission fee, no vat on commission fee, no custodial fee except some greedy stock brokers like Afrinvest. Remove those fees and your interest will no longer be that 18%. Afrinvest will charge you extra and claim that they are just Stock Brokers and not Merchant Banks like other agents and arrangers/dealers thus, I no longer subscribe through them again. Like you said, I am the CEO of my portfolio. I have assessed the risks and feel I can bear it at this particular time. I still have Evans Medical shares in my stock broking account which I would have since deleted but I haven't done that because I want to use that as a reminder of the inherent risks in stock investment. Caveat: Please for other readers passing by, this is just a discussion between me and USA2019. This discussions are not to be taken as any form of investment advice. Thank you |
USA2019:I am aware that it carries more risks than TB but like I said earlier, I have done rinse and repeat for like 8-10 CP's. Though not much, but inside the 10, it's only one that didn't pay at the exact date infact my last CP that matured came at 01:00 am of that day. Some have come a day before and most of them come at that exact date. The only one I have done so far that defaulted is Afex Fair Trade Exchange that delayed and they communicated about issues with their bank that'll make them not to pay at the scheduled date. Even though I will never subscribe to any CP from them again (Because they didn't pay me extra kobo for the delay), It was well communicated. I have a few Sukuk, FG Savings Bond and FG Bonds running. Since the end of 2023 there is none that has paid me the rent or coupon at the exact maturity date. Some of my enquiries on them are on the TB thread. Other people too concurred. I also have not seen any TB with better rates in the same period with the CPs sha. The highest CP most time is 270 days which is about 9 months. I have StanChart, Stanbic Blunest and i-invest apps where I check secondary market TB's I have not seen rate for that tenure that is up to CP rate. |
USA2019:If I can remember very well, I was made to understand that the tax holiday on both TB and CP expired at the same time then. So they should both be subject to WHT now. That said, there are some classes of investors exempted from the WHT. It's mostly individual investors that pays the WHT most times. Institutional/corporate investors do not pay in CP. Lots of TB individuals subscribers do not have what it takes to stand alone and bid for themselves so their bids are collated and presented as the banks bid. That said, so that may be why it's still seems that they are exempted. Also, the most times the rates given out by the banks are in the guise of what they bidded is usually lower that the official stop rates. I stopped TB investment especially primary market since around 2020 due to very low rates. Then recently I was tying to go back but had to stop, due to delay in repayment and lack of respect for investors plans and feelings especially from end of 2023 to this period. Though riskier, I find myself more at peace with CP at this moment than TB. As of now, I have not experienced much default in CP payment dates than I have in Government Securities these days. |
Jeoma2024: |
Morgan Capital intend to increase brokerage commission from 1st July, 2025.
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Chuksworld:People do ooo. It's just dependent on your risk appetite. That's all. Me I still do sha. Infact lots of CP's in the market now. Afrinvest just sent me notice for the Mercure Industries, Ucap sent me a notice for champion Breweries also, then coronation action sent me notices for Fidsonson healthcare and Coleman Technical Industries. Dangote Sugar Refinery and Skymark just ended this week too.
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chimex38:True but as a JIJO master he can still do with Companies that has B rating na. The lesser the rating, the higher the interest rate. (Higher risk, higher reward). |
bastardson:Hope you know that the interest rate calculation is per annum. It operates almost like treasury bill. Interest is paid upfront and Capital is paid at the expiration of the investment on the set date. Though I have had one default till after about a week later before the capital was paid after doing about 10. |



. Those ones no dey see mail talk less of acknowledging it lol