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InvestmentRe: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 1:30pm On Sep 16, 2025
femiaction:
Hello Fam,

I need your advice on something. I purchased a Treasury Bill through First Bank on September 3, 2025, and requested a certificate of investment as proof. Instead, what I received was a document titled “Nigerian Treasury Bills Proof of Investment.”

The issue is that this document came without any signature or authentication from First Bank officials, which seems unusual. Has anyone here experienced this before? Shouldn’t a proper Treasury Bill certificate or contract note be signed and authorized by the bank? This letter was stated below


NIGERIAN TREASURY BILLS PROOF OF INVESTMENT
We thank you for banking with First Bank Nigeria Ltd and hereby confirm your Nigerian Treasury Bills investment with us as
detailed below.
Reference Code: xxxxxxxxx
Account Number: xxxxxxx
Amount Invested: xxxxxxxx
Tenor: 364 Days
Rate: 16.75%
Effective Date: 2025-09-04
Maturity Date: 2026-09-03
Principal At Maturity: xxxxxxxxx
Interest: xxxxxxxxxxxx

Please note that your interest on this investment is subject to the following charges: .

Commission: 0.125% per transaction (per investment)

Custody Fee: 0.10% per transaction (per investment)

Transaction Fee: NGN100.00 per transaction (per investment)

VAT: 7.5% VAT on Commission, Custody Fee and Transaction Fees

NOTE: Investment done before implementation of the new (7.5%) VAT remains 5%.

In the event that you have to liquidate this investment prior to the maturity date indicated above, this will be treated based on the
prevalent rediscount rate, which may be higher or lower than the above rate.

Please confirm your acceptance of these terms and acknowledge receipt by signing and returning a copy of this confirmation
letter to us.

Thank you for your patronage.

Yours faithfully,

For: First Bank of Nigeria Ltd


The officer incharge said this is the certificate First Bank issue for TB
Is been a while I have done TB but with the knowledge of what I used to do. I will say the contents of this your post is actually what first bank's TB certificate of investment contains.

However, your worries are germaine. Usually, after this; (Your faithfully For: First Bank of Nigeria) There is always an (authorised Signatory column above which the signature of the officer (s) assigned with the responsibility signs) in majority of the branches, it will carry 2 signatories one on the left and another on the right but some branches will carry only one. Also, some branches will Stamp it with a stamp that has inscriptions like;Team Lead Finance or that bears the name of the branch, some will also go as far as affixing postage stamp on it while others will not bother putting any stamp but in all thereis always a signature for the bank.

Also, they always print two copy and ask you to write original collected by me on the duplicate that will be left with them.

You should have asked them why the document was not signed by their any of their rep. That's not normal. They must be at least a signature.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by freeman67: 10:26am On Sep 10, 2025
crownprince2017:
As long as people are not ready to respect others' choice of stock, there will always be gbasgbos.

When person was recommending eti as the best new thing, the price keeps doing gbelogbebo till now, another hawked aradel, transpower but what happen? The same story. the same people will do plenty analysis why they felt a stock choice of another person is bad, some even criticized people saying buy with patients funds. None of the critics have ever come out to say sorry for misleading people even when it's obvious they were wrong.

I have seen ogg come here to drop recommendation and come to pass but bad belle will still come here and say there was no time frame that anybody could have done that. Since they chased him away, we are yet to see their recommendations with time frame.

Despite ogg showing plenty workings why he thinks there is a value in a particular stock, the bad belle no gree allow am stay here in peace. undecided

Ogg, na man you be.. cool

Double standard everywhere.
You guys can be fighting your stock picks/recommendations war. That's normal. What is not Normal is putting out incorrect information. Nobody chased OGG away. He was canversing for customers and trying to divert members to his group where he offered paid service. Even though that was not in anyway a crime/offence, it negates the whole essence of this thread.

He stopped commenting either because he has had enough customers to sustain his paid services or because he was no longer getting more customers from here. Nobody chased him away because of his stock picks.

Also, please beware that no matter how accurate your picks and predictions are there will always be people with contrary opinions. Infact even God that created the Heaven and earth human still go contrary to his commands. The only difference between the people that fronted/marketed aradel and transpower with those in Ellahlake and Oando is the emotions and intolerance attached with Oando/ellah fans nothing more.
InvestmentRe: Mutual Funds by freeman67: 9:28am On Sep 10, 2025
Harddiskng:
Omo, this is very harsh cheesy grin

Though i have to agree with the bolded.

I thought i was the only one that noticed how their current crop of young employees struggle with effective and concise communication.

I no longer call, cause even from “Hello” i start to get angry. I mostly communicate with them via email and it takes 3, 4, 5,6 iterations (mail exchanges) to usually land at our final bus-stop about the solution to an issue and all these would take the span of a month or more most times.

Ratherless, when it comes to operational efficiency. Stanbic is still one of the best - in the land of the blind, one eyed man is king. At least they have leaders, driving performance. I no go talk when my eye don see for another asset manager hand lipsrsealed. Those ones no dey see mail talk less of acknowledging it lol
Yes, when it comes to contactless transactions Stanbic is the most superior as far as the Nigerian Mutual Fund space is concerned. Before they use to have the best brains there too. However, the quality of humans there now, especially those in customer service has depreciated seriously.

You can never get issues resolved without being frustrated and your issues can never be resolved with just phone calls. You have to keep following them from all angles.


Calling them now is tantamount to wasting of Airtime.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by freeman67: 1:30pm On Aug 27, 2025
Toluway:
I agree with you absolutely.
This scenario has always constituted my personal worries.
I left the federal public service at the highest level of it's hierarchy, so I know what I'm talking about.
I have observed that generally, only a quarter of the members of staff do the work of a government department. This are the productive ones.
Most of the others are the ones going around gossipping, licking the boots of directors and very senior officers. And they are even better preferred by directors who love flattery and boot licking.
Before promotion exams, you see them going all over the place. They are the first to pass promotion exams.
It's so painful that the same crop of unproductive elements rise to become directors.
You will see ladies get to the office, open their laptops or handsets, and launch to the social media... Facebook, Instagram etc.
And when you give them something to do, after a few minutes, they would start taking permissions to go home and take care of their babies, or going to take their children from school.
The system is so annoying and you can do very little about it. And they always steal whatever comes their ways. Those in higher positions are always likely cheat to cart away what belongs to the junior ones.
And when it's come to going out for field assignments, which would involve money, you would see everybody prowling around the place.
And this same group, who would always escape writing field reports would always find themselves in the list.
To be frank, we don't need more than a quarter of the so called civil servants, who should be closely supervised.

I always stood up against the system. They tried to destroy me. I became a director by grace of God and they made me to Head servicom because they knew I would not compromise my principle and I would not be bringing money to the CEO.

For the public service to be productive, it should adopt the culture of the private sector.
Promotion should be based on productivity and the system of seniority should be abrogated.
So many times, I worked under morons and the only thing they know how to do is defend themselves whenever there are issues. Go to their tribalised directors and speaking hoaouosua.
Honestly, the system is annoying. Even though I was a part of it. They said I had no friends. How could they be my friends?
The only thing they scout for is money. Not interested in service at all!
This is Nigeria Civil Service at a glance. Though majority of Nigerians are aware of laxity and redundancy within the Civil Service but it takes pure and undiluted experience to be able to capture all what you wrote.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by freeman67: 1:25pm On Aug 27, 2025
pluto09:
There are quite a large number of people in the private sector who earn less than 60k in a month and have been paying tax before, those people will altogether be exempted.
As for those who earn more than that, the way the tax is structured is that 800k will be Tax exempt, it is what they earn above the 800k that will be taxed which makes the effective tax to be low compared to what we had before.
Yes, I know and acknowledged that. Under normal circumstances nobody is supposed to be on lower pay again as the national minimum has already been raised to 70k but then we our things our way in Nigeria.

I now understand that 800k will be exempted from being taxed. That's better.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by freeman67: 1:16pm On Aug 27, 2025
GeneralDae:
No, you are getting it wrong. If you earn minimum wage (70k monthly), you earn 840k yearly. You would only pay tax on 40k. Your first 800k is tax exempt and the remaining 40k is taxed 15%.
Ok. That's better then.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by freeman67: 10:21am On Aug 27, 2025
GeneralDae:
I thought the tax act actually reduced taxes for most people and you are not taxed on your first 800,000 naira (for those earning up to 3 million naira annual salary) and 25 million for SME’s? So I don’t understand the bolded.

Here is a summary of the bill:

“for many individuals and small businesses, the reforms notably reduce tax burdens.
• Low-income earners (≤ ₦800,000 annually) now pay zero personal income tax   .
• Small businesses within the thresholds are fully exempt from key taxes   .
• Essential goods are VAT-zero-rated, which reduces the cost of everyday items; plus, businesses can reclaim input VAT, improving cash flow   .
• Productive sectors and multinationals face stricter taxation, but reforms aim to distribute tax burdens more equitably    .

As a summary, a Reddit user put it succinctly:

“The entire point of the bill isn’t to increase taxes but to widen the tax net … individuals earning under 800,000k … are exempt … it also eliminates VAT on items Nigerians spend most … food and medicine.”
One thing we are not all seeing is that except for the some people employed in private / small businesses earning between 20-60k, by the design of 70k minimum wage nobody is supposed to earn less than 800k. So nobody is exempted. Minimum wage earners earn 840k per annum and by this design are to be taxed so there is no exemption for anyone except for those in the military.
HealthRe: Help A One Minute Man Please by freeman67: 9:23am On Aug 10, 2025
Reduce or if possible for you, stop the consumption of sugary and junk stuff.

Take Banana, Watermelon, Tigernut (Aya), Coconut, Dates (Dabino) instead and also, stop thinking too much about your recent past performance. Just free your mind off worries and you will get better with time.
SportsRe: Africa All Time XI. Which Player Is Missing Here? by freeman67: 4:43pm On Aug 06, 2025
No Drogba, No Okocha, No Kanu. Enyeama too is missing.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by freeman67: 3:24pm On Aug 04, 2025
ghm:
WoW!

I haven't seen mine in my stockbroking account. Could you please advise how I can get access to my CSCS account? Can the CSCS account allow all stocks with different brokers be consolidated together or do I have to have a CSCS account for each of the brokers I am in?
Two ways that I know...!


The first and easiest way is to contact CSCS directly and register for CSCS access. With this you will be able to asses your stock 2 4 7 except during maintenance. Note: it's a paid service and now cost about Five Thousand Three Hundred something per annum..With this, you can view all your accounts with different brokers IF you a SINGLE CHN for all of them. However, if their CHN's are different you either have to look for a way to merge under one or open different CSCS access login for them.

The second way is through AfriPrud's Invearn App. This one requires a payment of N1,000 monthly. I use the CSCS access already so I have not bother activate the paid version of this one though it's still on my phone too. So I can't tell you categorically how it works but I know some people will be using.
InvestmentRe: Commercial Papers by freeman67: 10:59pm On Jul 31, 2025
Nakedman:
Hello House, Is there any company offering CP at the moment?
Sorry I am just seeing your message, plus the attached just came out this week. What was available was Taj Sukuk.. which is a sort of bond but it ended on 28/7/25.

So you can check it out and do your due diligence. If interested you can mail any of the contact in the picture to forward you more details.
FamilyRe: What Does It Mean When Your Wife Saves Your Number On Her Like This? by freeman67: 7:00pm On Jul 26, 2025
Nothing serious.

If this or something similar has not happened before, ask her why and let her know you don't like it but if it has happened in the time past depending on what you used to save her number. Let's assume it's wifey, you too can change her to Bola- Glo assuming that's her name and where she works.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by freeman67: 5:12pm On Jul 26, 2025
Mpeace:
I watched briefly and what I noticed is that somehow it appears to be almost the same shareholders or group of shareholders that attend and speak at most General meetings.
Yes, that is very true. I have attended the AGMs of companies I have afolabi units especially those whose meeting is in Abuja. Infact those faces know all the CEOs and the CEO's knows them too. The shuffle between Lagos and any other place any AGM is holding. Most times the are paid extra money underground by the company.

Even if you attend any virtual AGM it's still same them you will see. I guess that's their own way of making extra money from the company. However, they keep blocking the chances neutral investors with genuine concerns and needs clarification.
InvestmentRe: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 5:07pm On Jul 25, 2025
Ivan18888888888:
What banks pays upfront , I mean for secondary market
Most banks that does TB secondary market will pay you interest upfront except you request otherwise.
InvestmentRe: Mutual Funds by freeman67: 11:03am On Jul 07, 2025
Youngzedd:
I use reinvestment.

The Net Asset Value should be Inflow + Total Gain.

From my dashboard, the net asset value remains the same as it was last month before 30th.

The interest gained is showing on the transaction history, but haven't been carried over the the net asset value (principal.

It's showing on earned amount, but the last
Unlike other Asset Managers where the daily accrued interest is separated from your principal and you can clearly see the distinction, Stanbic IBTC Asset Managers does not separate them. The only thing you will notice is that your principal grows daily if you keep tab on it. Then the interest space/column below the principal is just for you to know how much has accrued/has been added to you principal so far in that month. By the end of the month, if you chose reinvestment of interest, the interest space would be wiped off and whatever is added to your principal is documented there again for next month.


However, if you chose for your interest to be paid to you, that money that grew on your principal for that quarter would be - minus from the principal and sent to your account. Yours remains the same because you chose reinvestment which means it has already been reinvest.

For others like FBN Quest and UCap there is a clear distinction between your principal and interest. If you keep tab on it you will notice that the principal never grows unless you top-up your investment or interest is renovated. It's only the interest that grows. Hope you can understand this...
InvestmentRe: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67:
Jane111:
Thank you for the response.

I asked for the certificate but they only gave me a confirmation note on their letterhead. So I got confused, I was wondering if that was a the norm or I was supposed to get an actual certificate.
Sorry, I didn't know that's what happened. That confirmation note is the certificate/proof of investment. It carries all the terms of the transaction (date of transaction, tenure, rate, charge/ commission and VAT etc)

I was thinking what you meant initially was just the transaction alert.
InvestmentRe: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 5:30am On Jul 02, 2025
Jane111:
Hello, hope you all are doing good?

Please after investing in Treasury Bills via the primary market, do you get a certificate or just a bank confirmation of the purchase of the treasury bills?

Thank you in advance.
Yes, you will get a certificate. Once you confirm that your/banks bid is successful just contact them for the certificate.
InvestmentRe: Commercial Papers by freeman67: 11:13pm On Jul 01, 2025
Entrepreneurrr:
Yes sir for the CP.
All merchant banks I have used do not charge extra fee as commission. (I have used Coronation, FBNQUEST, United Capital, Norrenberger and Greenwich). Only Afrinvest which claimed (when I queried them) that they are stockbrokers not usually the arranger/main agent.
InvestmentRe: Commercial Papers by freeman67: 9:20am On Jul 01, 2025
Entrepreneurrr:
Which other stockbroker is not charging custodial fee please?
Sorry what I wrote is for CP not for TB.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by freeman67: 2:58pm On Jun 30, 2025
jp130:
How does one move it to trading account like Morgan capital?
You will have send them a mail instructing them to do.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by freeman67: 7:49am On Jun 30, 2025
jp130:
Africa Prudential bonus has been allotted, who can confirm?
Yes, I just checked now and mine has reflected.
InvestmentRe: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 11:07am On Jun 29, 2025
PharoahIII:
Does it have to be a regular account or can you do it through stanbic BlueNest
I have not done anything investment via BlueNest since it's been launched but I believe you should be able to invest in Treasury Bill from there if you have sufficient funds in your BlueNest wallet and the TB is available. I have not tried to find wallet from another bank before. I am not sure of it's possibility because it's not list amongst the existing bank accounts you can pay to for now. The only thing I see is Stanbic IBTC @ease Wallet which different from BlueNest.

Also, the bank account added to my BlueNest account is my Stanbic IBTC account.
InvestmentRe: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 7:25am On Jun 29, 2025
luciouscookie:
Good morning, please I invested in treasury bill last week and I currently have have some money in the same account. Can I also invest it or is TB a one off thing that I have to wait till maturity to invest again.

Please help a newbie.
No, you do not have to wait till maturity. You can investment in it every business through the secondary market if available or Primary Market at every auction.

All you have to do is keep a form of investment dairy where you will record for record keeping and better planning. You can also collect the certificate/proof for records.
InvestmentRe: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 7:20am On Jun 29, 2025
PharoahIII:
To buy tbills from stanbic do u need to have an acc with them? Also if one isn't in d country how do u go about buying tbills from stanbic
To invest in TB through any bank you will have to have an account with them. If one isn't in the country, you can mail your account officer and copy the mail Customer Service address of your bank. From there you directed on how to go.
InvestmentRe: Commercial Papers by freeman67: 7:15am On Jun 29, 2025
USA2019:
I get you, but bonds and Sukuk are a different case—they usually pay out quarterly. Treasury Bills are always (I have not personally had or heard of a default) paid on time at maturity because it is a one-time payment, and I think they typically have sufficient time to prepare for it.

20% discount rate of CP with 10% WHT is equal to 18% effective discount, plus you don't get paid until maturity. With Treasury Bills, I get my interest upfront and can reinvest it in some other high-yielding financial instruments to beat CP, bond, or Sukuk rates.

I guess it's to each his own--you're the CEO of your portfolio!
The major and only advantage TB has on CP, is that CP carries more risks of default. It's been a while have I done TB via PMA. All payments due for Sukuk, bonds and FGN Savings Bonds I had before 2023 ending were coming appropriately except for 1 or 2 exceptions where the proceeds sent by CSCS bounced back due to bank issues or them inputting incorrect account number. So, when it began to happen that way I became weary of them because to me, the idea of fixed income with them was being defeated. The are all Government Securities, this I classified TB in same category.


That said, CP interest is paid upfront exactly like TB. It's even better because unlike TB where the some banks like FBN and co will want investors to have the complete funds in their bank account and the money is taken into custody until after the auction before either their upfront or refund is made to them depending on whether the auction was successful or not, with CP investors only pay them the discounted value on the funding date as indicated on the issuance notice. That also give them the opportunity to invest the principal with interest by themselves and benefit the implied/true yield of the investment if they don't have urgent need for the interest.

True 20% minus WHT is equal 18%. Still CP is still more beneficial in that aspect. All fees of CP's are borne by the issuer. No commission fee, no vat on commission fee, no custodial fee except some greedy stock brokers like Afrinvest. Remove those fees and your interest will no longer be that 18%. Afrinvest will charge you extra and claim that they are just Stock Brokers and not Merchant Banks like other agents and arrangers/dealers thus, I no longer subscribe through them again.

Like you said, I am the CEO of my portfolio. I have assessed the risks and feel I can bear it at this particular time. I still have Evans Medical shares in my stock broking account which I would have since deleted but I haven't done that because I want to use that as a reminder of the inherent risks in stock investment.

Caveat: Please for other readers passing by, this is just a discussion between me and USA2019. This discussions are not to be taken as any form of investment advice. Thank you
InvestmentRe: Commercial Papers by freeman67: 6:23pm On Jun 28, 2025
USA2019:
I get your point, but I think using the bank's secondary discount rate and equivalent yield for TBills, I'm getting equal or even better returns compared to commercial papers (CPs), which carry higher default risk. Treasury Bills, backed by the Federal Government or or our national oil reserves, are far more secure—worst case, the government can print more naira to pay. I've never experienced delays with TBills, but I know several companies that have delayed or defaulted on CP payments at maturity.

I'm not trying to discourage anyone from investing in CPs—they can be a valuable part of a diversified portfolio with varying risk and return profiles.
I am aware that it carries more risks than TB but like I said earlier, I have done rinse and repeat for like 8-10 CP's. Though not much, but inside the 10, it's only one that didn't pay at the exact date infact my last CP that matured came at 01:00 am of that day. Some have come a day before and most of them come at that exact date. The only one I have done so far that defaulted is Afex Fair Trade Exchange that delayed and they communicated about issues with their bank that'll make them not to pay at the scheduled date. Even though I will never subscribe to any CP from them again (Because they didn't pay me extra kobo for the delay), It was well communicated.

I have a few Sukuk, FG Savings Bond and FG Bonds running. Since the end of 2023 there is none that has paid me the rent or coupon at the exact maturity date. Some of my enquiries on them are on the TB thread. Other people too concurred.

I also have not seen any TB with better rates in the same period with the CPs sha. The highest CP most time is 270 days which is about 9 months. I have StanChart, Stanbic Blunest and i-invest apps where I check secondary market TB's I have not seen rate for that tenure that is up to CP rate.
InvestmentRe: Commercial Papers by freeman67: 4:59pm On Jun 28, 2025
USA2019:
I’ve never been charged interest on my Treasury Bills, including the most recent one I purchased in March 2025. When exactly did this new tax regime take effect?
If I can remember very well, I was made to understand that the tax holiday on both TB and CP expired at the same time then. So they should both be subject to WHT now. That said, there are some classes of investors exempted from the WHT. It's mostly individual investors that pays the WHT most times. Institutional/corporate investors do not pay in CP.

Lots of TB individuals subscribers do not have what it takes to stand alone and bid for themselves so their bids are collated and presented as the banks bid. That said, so that may be why it's still seems that they are exempted. Also, the most times the rates given out by the banks are in the guise of what they bidded is usually lower that the official stop rates.

I stopped TB investment especially primary market since around 2020 due to very low rates. Then recently I was tying to go back but had to stop, due to delay in repayment and lack of respect for investors plans and feelings especially from end of 2023 to this period. Though riskier, I find myself more at peace with CP at this moment than TB. As of now, I have not experienced much default in CP payment dates than I have in Government Securities these days.
InvestmentRe: Mutual Funds by freeman67: 11:44pm On Jun 27, 2025
Jeoma2024:
I haven't used fbquest before but I don't know why I feel comfortable with them, I have been trying to open account and it is taking longer than expected, I am tired of waiting, I am thinking of united capital but when I typed in there name on Google to sign up, I will be seeing INVESTNOW, it is quite confusing

Can anyone here help me out with Fbquest
And how good is this united capital


INVEST NOW IS the App for United Capital Asset Management. So it's correct.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by freeman67:
Morgan Capital intend to increase brokerage commission from 1st July, 2025.

InvestmentRe: Commercial Papers by freeman67: 1:19pm On Jun 27, 2025
Chuksworld:
Is like people don't do cp here. I saw mecureseries cp on Stanbic. Is it worth investing in?
People do ooo. It's just dependent on your risk appetite. That's all. Me I still do sha.

Infact lots of CP's in the market now.

Afrinvest just sent me notice for the Mercure Industries, Ucap sent me a notice for champion Breweries also, then coronation action sent me notices for Fidsonson healthcare and Coleman Technical Industries.

Dangote Sugar Refinery and Skymark just ended this week too.

InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by freeman67: 5:18pm On Jun 24, 2025
chimex38:
People like dangote and co make OT less risky cuz they have a reputation to protect.
The A+ rating also helps.

Largely, they are mostly unsecured debt. and if they default, you can do nothing.
True but as a JIJO master he can still do with Companies that has B rating na. The lesser the rating, the higher the interest rate. (Higher risk, higher reward).
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by freeman67: 5:13pm On Jun 24, 2025
bastardson:
23% is huge in 6 months.

Is it like Fixed Deposit?

Would the capital and interest be paid after the set date ?


I need to read on how commercial papers work
Hope you know that the interest rate calculation is per annum.

It operates almost like treasury bill. Interest is paid upfront and Capital is paid at the expiration of the investment on the set date. Though I have had one default till after about a week later before the capital was paid after doing about 10.

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