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Layi4real:
But even the other religion preaches the same and the evidence is in there holy books. What a double standard

Which other religion preaches the same? Which adherents of other religions openly claim to kill for their gods?

Layi4real:
but violence and terrorism knows tribe and religion? U can quickly attributed terrorism banditry to religion but when it involves good act u refuse to play same card

Yes, because there's only one religion all.over the world whose adherents openly claim to kill for their god!

Ddeliverer007:
I used to have a Muslim customer, he normally buys on credit and repays me the next time he comes to the market……I didn’t see him for a while, I was surprised when some people came to my place, told me the man had died, and surprisingly, paid the money the man was owing. According to them, they don’t eat people’s money. They said the man had a book where he documents every transaction and they’ve paid all his creditors. I was so shocked. That was when I understood the Godfearing nature of the Hausa Muslim. A Yoruba Muslim will never do that, cos the family members will want to play smart. An Igbo man will never do that, cos they will say “who don die, don die”…but an Hausa man is quiet honest!

An Hausa man is as quite as honest as the one that sold copper to me as gold in 2009. He and his fellow Hausas still fought me when I showed them his dubiousness.

That particular man you referenced was honest. Honesty and dishonesty know no tribe or religion.

RealLordZeus:
Is the state of Israel aware that the land they are currently occupying is gifted to them majorly by the british and they fought tooth and nail for them to occupy it?
And i'm not even talking about the palestinian lands.. i'm referring to the 1948 land allocated to Israel

Gifted to them? You.mean Galilee, Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, etc were gifted to Israel?

So, he was waiting for Trump's validation? This would not make a good president!

Vifx:
Except the message was supposed to be for their ears only but for all humans in time so yeah
A tri-omni being can definitely come up with a more creative way to pass down it's message to make it stay not just relevant to the people being spoken to but to all

A teacher teaches the locals according to their current knowledge. When it gets to other lands, it can be localized. For other lands who don't know what mustard seed is, whatever they know to be the smallest of things would be used to bring them understanding. That's how teaching works. You don't use abstract things to impart concrete knowledge. You come to the level of your learners always. That's how it works even in schools. 2- 3 is not impossible but they told you it's impossible at the lower level of education. At the higher levels you'll now learn that 2 - 3 equals -1. Anyone who did education in school as a subject understands that learning still takes this same form till today.

When a teacher draws his scheme of work, there is a section for previous knowledge. The teacher builds on the foundation of the learners' previous knowledge to teach them new things. It is the way learning works. If Jesus was teaching Botany, then the situation becomes different. He's not teaching them about the smallest seed in the earth. He's teaching them about faith using what they know to be the smallest of things.

Vifx:
Because the “people only knew mustard seeds” argument doesn’t really rescue it. Jesus could have simply said “a very small seed” without making a universal claim about all seeds. Lamba🤣
You can't treat problematic passages as literal when defending them and metaphorical when they're challenged.
The real question isn't whether ancient people had limited knowledge. Of course they did. The question is whether a supposedly omniscient divine revelation should contain the same knowledge limitations as the people receiving it. That's where the you have a problem.

If you're a teacher or you have a knowledge about education, you'll understand that you use what people know to teach them what they don't know. A very small seed can mean anything from melon seeds to bean seeds. It does not explain what Jesus wants them to know. The mustard seed was small enough to drive home the concept of faith has He taught it.

Jesus was not teaching a class in Botany. The subject was Faith.

AntiChristian:
The scientist is ignorant o!

Despite all the scientific blunders!

One is Jesus calling the mustard seed the smallest seed of all seeds!

Lamba!

Jesus was speaking to people who know only the mustard seed as the smallest seed, and who often used it in idioms to express the smallest things known to them. It is in the principle of the gospel to speak to people in their own languages and in their understanding. Jesus cannot be using Orchids to explain faith to people who know nothing about Orchids.

But what is more lamba than the sun settling in murky waters, and sperm being produced in the spinal cord? Or you do not see that the earth being spread like a carpet is the biggest lamba of all ages?

erad:
No evidence, yet you couldn't disprove any of it with your 'evidence'. SMH!

I provided screenshot evidence that scattered your lies. You didn't provide any evidence for anything you said. You should shake your head for yourself.

erad:
This nonsense about Iran sponsoring terrorism. What terrorist group has Iran sponsored? Hamas? Israel sponsored hamas as well, so what does that make Israel? This stupid habit of the west terming any group fighting against its control as a terrorist group is only believed by people who lack the ability to reason.

What makes hezbollah a terrorist organization? Because they are resisting Israel's occupation in Lebanon?
What makes houthis a terrorist organization? Because they are resisting saudi's occupation and siege of yemen?
What makes hamas a terrorist organization? Because they are resisting Israel's genocide and occupation in palestine? It's typical of western puppets to ignore the cause and only focus on the effect. If USA, Saudi and Israel were not bloodthirsty, genocidal maniacs, these groups won't exist.

Lets not forget USA trained Osama and Saudi gave him shelter at some point. But Iran is the one sponsoring terrorism. Have we forgotten about Khashoggi? How many countries has Iran invaded? How many journalists have they killed? How many hospitals have they destroyed? How many churches/mosques/synagogues have they bombed? How many children have they killed? Now ask the same of Israel and USA...

Can you see how warped your thinking is?

Hamas is resisting Israel, yet Israel sponsors Hamas. Lol.

No, those guys are not resisting Israel. They're killing people for their god. They want Israel and Christians annihilated because Allah told them the Mahdi must come.

This is why they're terrorists.

erad:
I don't have strength to argue with ignorant people.

How was Mosaddegh removed as prime minister in 1953? How did the Reza Pahlavi gain absolute control as shah? What led to the hostage situation of 1979? If you read all that and still believe UK and USA didn't play a part in Iran's troubles, then I have nothing to tell you.

Asides medical and emergency aids in times of crisis, what aid does Iran receive?

The problem with a lot of you is you are too lazy to conduct independent research. You are so mentally dependent on your propaganda sources that you can't even think for yourself.

Every country has its internal and external issues. All you mentioned should not inhibit growth. A simple question for you is this: What would Iran look like today if it channelled all funds and aids received into national development and citizens welfare instead of sponsoring terrorism around the world? Do you know how much that country spends yearly to sponsor terror?

erad:
Nigerian Christians are some of the dumbest in the world, even among the Christianity fold.

Religion is why Iran is not developed(let's forget the fact that it's way more developed than the shit hole you call a country), what part does the 47 year sanctions play in that? What part does the foreign assets that were frozen play in that? Have you ever heard of Iran begging for aids? Western countries funded and supported Iraq to invade Iran and killed millions of Iranians, but religion is why Iran isn't developed.

Do you even know how the ayatollah came to be the supreme leader? Learn to take your mouth off the boot sometimes and do some research instead. Whatever backwardness you think Iran is suffering from, UK and USA are 100% to blame for it because of their greed for Iranian oil. And yet Iran has managed to conduct its affairs and stand strong even with being surrounded by enemies including their fellow Islamic countries.

The fact that Iran could stand up to your western masters is something most of you still can't wrap your heads around.

So, UK and US were the ones who asked Iran to be wasting money on terrorism financing and nuclear armaments?

Iran receives foreign AIDS from the christian countries they hate so much. What are they using their aids for?

Yes, if Iran does not have a terrorist religion that sees others as people to be terrorized, Iran would have been able to develop more than this. Even the sanctions wouldn't have happened. Just look at Dubai that is developing in peace.

Rashduct4luv:
In Islam, Jahannam (Hell) is described as the place of severe punishment for disbelievers and evildoers in the Hereafter. The Qur’an and Sunnah provide vivid descriptions of the torment and consequences awaiting those who reject faith and persist in wrongdoing. Here are some of the key punishments and "rewards" (in the sense of consequences) for disbelievers in Jahannam:

1. Intense and Everlasting Fire
The blazing fire of Jahannam burns continuously, consuming the skin and flesh without relief.
“Indeed, those who disbelieve will be in the punishment of Hell, abiding eternally.” (Qur’an 2:39)

2, Boiling Water to Drink
Disbelievers will be given scalding water that tears apart their intestines and causes unbearable pain.
“They will be given boiling water to drink that will sever their intestines.” (Qur’an 47:15)

3. Chains, Shackles, and Burning Garments
They will be bound with heavy chains and wear garments made of fire, intensifying their torment.
They will wear garments of fire, boiling water will be poured over their heads.” (Qur’an 22:19-20)

4. Eating from the Tree of Zaqqum
The bitter fruit of the cursed tree Zaqqum is the food of the sinful in Hell, causing further suffering.
Indeed, the tree of Zaqqum is food for the sinful.” (Qur’an 37:62-68)

5. Scorching Wind and Shadow of Black Smoke
Hell is surrounded by a scorching wind and a dark, suffocating smoke that adds to the punishment.
A scorching wind and scalding water.” (Qur’an 56:42-43)

6. Darkness and Confinement
The inhabitants of Hell will be in utter darkness and confined spaces, increasing their fear and despair.
They will dwell amid scorching wind and scalding water in the shadow of black smoke, neither cool nor beneficial.” (Qur’an 56:42-44)

7. Continuous Renewal of Punishment
The torment in Hell is renewed repeatedly, with no respite or end for disbelievers.
Every time they want to get out of it, they will be returned to it, and it will be said, ‘Taste the punishment of the Fire which you used to deny.’” (Qur’an 6:128)

8. Eternal Separation from Allah’s Mercy
The greatest punishment is being cut off from Allah’s mercy and presence forever.
The Prophet ﷺ said: “The worst people in the sight of Allah on the Day of Resurrection will be the double-faced people...” (Muslim)

9. Regret and Despair
The disbelievers will experience intense regret and hopelessness, wishing they could return to life to do good.
They will say, ‘Our Lord, remove us from it, and if we were to return [to life], we would do righteousness.’” (Qur’an 23:108)

10. Physical and Spiritual Torment
Both the body and soul of the disbelievers suffer in Jahannam, with pain and punishment beyond human comprehension.
Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses – We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through, We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment.” (Qur’an 4:56)

These descriptions of Jahannam serve as a powerful warning to disbelievers and sinners, emphasizing the severe and eternal consequences of rejecting faith and committing evil. The punishments are both physical and spiritual, continuous and intense, designed to deter people from wrongdoing and encourage turning to Allah’s mercy. We ask Allah to protect us from Jahannam entirely.

If Allah indeed has the power to punish disbelievers in the afterlife, why would he be in a hurry to have them slaughtered in this life?

Hemanwel:
I have been searching for Peter Obi and Rabiu Kwankwaso on this list.

However, the current sitting president is conspicuously on number 22

Dear Nigerians, 2027 elections is few months away. We have the choice, once again, before us.

nlfpmod, mynd44, Dominique, lalasticlala, Seun

Tinubu was probed and never convicted. He wa acquitted.

iwaeda:
Nobody knows the father.
No sibling
No classmate
No delloite employee knows him.
No primary school attended
No secondary school.
He has never filled same information in any election.

How does having all the above make someone a good president?

Philosopher1979:
TO BE HONEST ITS NOT FAIR.
IT MEANS THAT IF A MAN TRIES TO WOO A LADY AND
SHE DOES NOT AGREE FOR THE MAN.
ALL THE MAN HAS TO DO IS RAPE HER.
THEN HE BECOMES HIS WIFE.
IT ENCOURAGES FORCED MARRIAGE.
THE WOMANS CONSENT IS NOW SOUGHT IN WETHER SHE LIKES THE MAN OR NOT.
SHE IS JUST FORCED TO MARRY WHOEVER RAPES HER.
IT MAKES WOMEN VICTIMS.
IF YOU LIKE A GIRL. NO STRESS. JUST RAPE HER AND TELL HER PARENTS YOU WANT TO MARRY HER.
ITS FUNNY AND WICKED

The lady is not forced to marry the man. The man is the one being punished. He has no choice except the lady rejects him. If a man rapes a mentally unstable woman now, he MUST marry her. Only the woman has a choice in this matter.

Blakjewelry:
But you are allowed to own and held her captive and marry her when she has no choice.

No, that's war captive. You still have to treat her well like you'll treat your fellow country men.

Zooposki:
Imagine marrying your rapist. What a trauma. Cant even wish that on my worst enemy. Thunda fire you and your god.

The punishment is for the man. The girl can reject to marry the man.

That means if a man rapes a mentally unstable woman for instance, he must marry the woman. The victim is not under any obligation to marry her rapis. She can reject him but if she likes the man, the man does not have the option of rejecting the woman.

Blakjewelry:
Did I read sell her off to another nations and captivity? So God allow some of his children to sell their kind and even capture some into captivity? Hmm what a god.

So why are you mofos condemning bokos for keeping the tradition of kidnapping women during raid and marrying them.

He said you shall not sell her. What's happening with some of you?

joseph1832:
The 50 sketel of silver, given to the maids father, is what caught my attention. Today, it is about 1.5 million naira. Yet, when many Nigerians see the marriage list of some of our tribes, they go into tirades and start complaining.

Aside, the cooking aspect in marriages, that gulps money, the items itself aren't what many people should be complaining about.

The fifty shekels of silver was a punishment for the man who raped the girl. The money compensated her family while the mandatory marriage compensates the girl.

Stephen0mozzy:
No contest on that my good Sir. I just feel, since they acknowledge that their dad listened to God's voice in passing the baton, they should respect that authority too rather than making a fuss about it - if they think there's an injustice, then let God be the judge.

We cannot actually say they're making a fuss about the result of their father passing the baton. Their demands are legitimate except Pastor Adeboye received a literal instruction from the founder regarding the issue. Receiving the baton from a founder does not mean the founder's name should be silenced in history. Babalola didn't hand over the church to his children too, yet his name still rings a bell today.

However, the woman should have at least also recognized how God has used Pastor Adeboye to take the Church from one small church congregation meeting under a shed at Ebute Meta, Lagos to the global mega church that it is today. A balanced request would have at least made such acknowledgement while also pressing the demands humbly.

Lol.

Obidents are scared of this news.

firearcher:
Don't mind him. Israel has survived many empires, kingdoms, and millenia and is still around today by divine providence despite the many times she was attacked and scattered.
The US is blessed today because it supports Israel, not the other way around.

Exactly!

erad:
Lol... And yet Israel needed to steal the same nuclear power blueprint from America and live off aid from the country they made a superpower. Ok!

Yeah, since the nation was not yet even formed as at the time they gave everything to the USA. Did you read the screenshots at all?

erad:
Kindly explain your second paragraph. I'll honestly like to know the contribution of Israel into making USA a world power.

No. Islamists are the most brainwashed persons in all of human history.

I don't need to explain anything to you. Ignorant people like arguing too much. Just read from the attached screenshots below. You can research more to further educate yourself.

Neither could the US have survived without Israel.

Without Israel, the US couldn't have become a world power.

Israel can survive without any help from any nation according to the covenant God made with them for the end times.

Donald Trump should know his place and stop boasting ignorantly.

Beautifulday:
Good point.

Since Obi left government. It's over 15 years. He has been asking anyone who has any corruption charge against him to bring it up.

He challenged the entire nation.

He said if you have one corruption charge against him as far back as primary school. He will stop campaigning.

This challenge is also thrown to you.

If you believe Obi has ever stolen 1 naira. Take your evidence to EFCC, ICPC, police, court, anyone.

I want to ask you.

Have you ever heard any politician make such statement like this both home and abroad?

Adeyanju challenged him according to this boasting. Obi said he'll take him to court. The moment Adeyanju said he has evidences of corruption against Obi, Obi refused to take Adeyanju to court till today. Adeyanju even pestereed Obi saying "Please take me to court", Obi couldn't summon any courage to do so.

There are many political figures whose corruption files have never been opened, that does not mean they're not corrupt. EFCC and ICPC have thoroughly investigated Tinubu, yet they found nothing incriminating against him.

AntiChristian:
God's fairness and justice should be discussed/questioned in the case of Isaac vs Ishmael.

I wonder if any SAN could take this matter of discrimination to court!

Can you create a thread for this discussion and invite me?

MightySparrow:
They should send missiles to Washington for a revenge.


The death toll would stop immediately.

They didn't say they want to commit suicide nah?

Antoeni:
Igboho is Free. Gumi is Free. Captured Bandits And Terrorists Are Been Rehabilitated ,Released And Joining The Army , Malami, Who Extradited Kanu Forfeited 48 Properties. Bello Turji is Still in The Forest Free, Yet Kanu Remains Detention.

Why bring Igboho into the matter? Who did he kill or ordered to be killed like Kanu did?