jackass the jerk,
milan and juve played the final of 2002/2003, madrid vs valencia 2000/2001, all this teams were 1st and 2nd on thier table. a good team plays good in any tournament be it europe or domestic. stop bragging sh*t here.
You know what, had man utd lost that final i guess the same excuse would have applied here! the fact you guys from EPL will never face reality.

AC Milan finished 4th last season and won UEFA.

by beating man utd (the team that won EPL)

Only a team as good as Man Utd could have achieved the TREBLE status in 1999 . . . .

bullsh*t milan, juve beryen, madrid, ajax all the it.

English clubs get short-changed by the huge schedule of back to back footie while other European clubs enjoy holidays in december.

super story

Lemme break y'all zealots something proper.
Just like most teams in Europe have realised . . . .Its very difficult for any team to contest for 4 different competitons and win it.
If any English team concentrates fully on UEFA . . . . .they WILL win it, Liverpool did in 2005 without stress.
Teams like Chelsea, Arsenal and especially Man Utd are always expected to do well in the Premiership so its fucking difficult for em to win UEFA.

Besides, other leagues in Europe observe a 6-week winter break which Premiership teams don't enjoy.
EPL teams play as many as 12 games between dec-jan while Italian teams play ZILCH in that period.
By the time everyone resumes in february for the knock-out stages . . .fatigue sets in for English teams thus making em marginally weaker.
This is the major reasons why English clubs are weaker than their contemporaries in the latter stages of UEFA.
Man Utd. . . . Chelsea . . .and Liverpool have to comepete ferociously in the league and still have UEFA to worry about,
AC Milan is currently locked in the 13th postion . . .have nuthing to fight for domestically thus giving em the impetus to fight in Europe.
If u cannot grab this point . . . . .then all y'all SERIE A ass-lickers are morons . . . or better still, ninnies.

look man what's europe biz if you play 365 matches in a year? was that an excuse when liverpool won or when man u did te treble? jackal, you are just like the british press; always looking for flimsy excuse when things are down.
does ur excuse count for why england will never win anything? oops! they won even qualify.

guy shine ya eys and look deeply. EPL is just overrated.
best players and managers come from italy, spain and germany. u come 4th.

your team How will my love for a team affect your existence?
im at a loss, please tell me what you were driving at. im clueless

cool, remain clueless.

PS how could you let arsenal draw that game with you?
too bad, i thought man u was gonna spoil their day. great attacking plsy from you guys.

Jackal what the hell is ur problem? what has milan being in the 8th position got to do with the superiority of calcio? hey as a matter of fact i dont need to reply you, dayo has done that. but still your league is limited to just 4 teams (liverpool, arsenal, chelsea and man u) everton could have played in the CL but they were not good enough. the fact is EPL is not competetive enough. Fiorentina and juve could make the CL numbers next season, in spain, villarel is riding high in spain, am sure same in germany and france. But i bet you know the 4 clubs coming to CL next season from EPL.
we have the best players, best managers young and old. the only thing you have going for you is your money and perhaps you f**king lousy press.

FORZA MILAN.

hey jackass which team do you support.
i mean club and country.

hey jackal, Milan comprehensively beat ur arse twice, they taught you futball. you are just as stupid as ur fellow ELP idiots. did you forget inter already defeated arsenal 3-0 in higbury? or do you just have a bias memory? that season man u defeated juve, juve got to the final and 2 calcio teams played the final ( something u guys will never achieve.)

You are one of those ninnies who still live and thrive on past glory . . . . .Hate it or love it, EPL reigns supreme these days.

supreme my foot look hommie that statement is so so stupid. past and present italy still has is. we are the present wc an cl holders and a jerk like you call that past glory? i wonder what you do with your brain. you are such a jerk. do u even think the 3 lions will qualify for european cup next year.

Roma, AC Milan and Juventus were all involved in match-fixing scandals so we don't reckon with your stupid league that is devoid of fair play.

who told you roma was involved. even if there was a scandal we still play good in europe.

look man you are an embarrassment to the society of morons, i think you should be ostracized. you are so dumb.

i will advice you make use of ur brain next time b4 u reply me.

tkb417 there will be no need for all this rap and beefing if you know that SAF was not, is not, and will not be the

World's Best Football Coach

. besides i dont need someone like you to support my team. you are full of sh*t.

and jackarse

Mark Hughes, Steve McClaren, Walter Smith, Alex McLeish, Steve Bruce, Roy Keane . . . .all these peops learnt under Ferguson.
If u combine all the factors that makes a good manager . . . . Ferguson beats everyone hands down.
This is why i think he is the greatest living manager on planet earth.

these bunch of loosers you call students of SAF what have they won in futbal, lots of pathetic names you mentioned in your post. can they stand sacchi or capello's students.

you dont have to like calcio, italy , or azzurri, no wahala, but dont beef.

by the way, do i need to be at the stadium b4 i know SAf aint good enough. I beg lets stop is and tal something better.

EPL, 3 lions and whatever can not stand calcio, azzurri etc. save ur post man.

what's up with u guys beefing on dayo. D1 no mind na bad belle. and TKB417 most you wait for me to challenge you before you reply?
what do you know about calcio?

that list about the best coach must be bias. why must the top 10 include 6 EPL coaches? i bet the list is from ESPN.

Whatz wrong with u?
Dont let us beef again with your comments.

I mentioned Ferguson's students as football managers of elite clubs in the world and u are naming SALZBURG?
For Bleep's Sake . . . . .Roy Keane was still a player as at 2 years ago and now he is managing a club in the PREMIERSHIP.
Gordon Strachan manages CELTIC . . . .Steve McClaren manages England, Walter Smith manages Scotland . . . .they all learnt under FERGUSON.
Mentioning all those clubs is like me naming PAUL INCE who now manages MK DONS and Darren Ferguson of PETERSBOROUGH.
Wait a minute . . . . .Is SALZBURG listed on UEFA club ranking?

jackal you are oblivious about europe no doubt all you know is EPL. for ur info arigo sacchi and capellohave student like ancelloti, rijkard, donadoni, van basten, gullit, etc. ur SAF produced crappy coaches like himself, imagine his student coach sunderland, celtic etc, LOL. mine are milan, barca, italy etc.
what the sence and wisdom in ur post. the fact is SAF is an average coach and hi will produce average student like those u mentioned.


Dayo never mind they are all haters.

TKB417 i am begining to loose my respect for you. dont think you can discuss anything about ITALY with me. be it futball or thier history or ROMAN empire or anything. were was you when we were posting about thier glory days .

guys lets stop hating, one thing i noticed now is that all EPL lovers hardly post reply here. Now that we are talking of real futbal, italian and german futbal, they have nothing to say. could this be because they have nothing to say or they just started watching futball?

hey

TKB417

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RICHBOY

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i think inter are cursed. that year 2001/2002, i thought they will win the scudetto but alas juve took it. my best scudetto moment had to be when roma won it against parma. italian futball is just crazy. how i wish the final game was against lazio then and roma won.


italy still has the players to light up the world. ibra, pirlo, kaka, de rossi, mancini, pandev, totti, aquilliani, etc these players are highly technical.

remember players like baptistuta, ayala, zola, vially, zidane, davids, aldair. i love italy.
infact if italy plays nigeria i will support italy.

no country can will the wc with the input of calcio its just impossible.

do you know that the last world cup had 8 juve players past and present, and 5 ,milan players past and present in the final?

In US 94 after Spain would have been Bulgaria whom we had earlier beaten 3-0 in the group stage.

my bad.

Take am easy Dayo

I almost slapped somebody who thought Dudeks antics were funny.

My friend thought i had recieved bad news when they saw me after the game. I felt bad and gloomy for 3 days.

Besides I wonder what it would have been like watching that 99 final as a bayern fan.

I felt really sorry 4 bayern that day. I stil don't know how Manchester United won Juve in that Semi. I was thinking that Final would end up b/w Juve and Bayern
I also think Dynamo Kiev might have put a whooping to Manchester United backside

But its all good. Ive been through a period where after becoming a Milan Fan, i watched with dismay as Juve started to dominate Europe.

is this thread about our sadest moment in futball?
99 was man u's yr they beat inter, juve, and beryern. sage you are right how on earth the juve loose the semis to man u? juve didn't make use of thier domination like milan, they lost 2ice and the semis to man U was unbelievable.

CL was realy good to watch then no doubt.
beryen made me realy happy when the took the CL in 2001-2002, beating man U and madrid was so cool.

i am praying for the return of classic juve to europe.

Damn

you guys are begining to bring back the memories

The days of Carsten Janker and Gio Elber ( a patnership i rate as high, if not higher, as Andy Cole and Yorke), Effenburg running the Midfield. Andereas Moller and Sammer (I don't know if am correct) were also members of the Broussia Dortmound side that put a whooping to ManU both home and away and beat Zidane's and Vieri's Juventuz on their way to Champions League glory.

Ive been a Milan Fan since the days after the the legendary Dutch Trio, when George Weah was running riot

It seems a long time now though its only been 10 years

Football has changed so much now. Its no longer the days of b/w Albertini, Redondo, Effenburg and Davids who was the best midfield marshall. (Its so sad. I remember when i used to have those conversations)

All we hear now is Arsenal this, Arsen Wenger that , Chelsea this and that.

When i was in Uni in Nigeria, people could never believe that i was not an Arsenal or Manchester United fan

Then Chelsea came plus DSTV and it became worse. Bandwagon fans all over the place from nowhere.

I think most of us that are not fazed by EPL propaganda are those who have been watching football for a long time

sage you are right. money and tv rights has change alot of things in futball world. i cant stop reminising the days of dechamps, conte zidane, vially etc in juve, albertini, boban, weah, custacutta, bierhoff etc for milan, Effenburg, scholl, elber mathias, anderson for beryen ( cant forget how kuffor was crying, i was about crying myself), evn the rise of madrid; miatovic, young raul, seedorf etc. futball has changed alot. i dont know if its for the better or was.
God bless memory.
thanks guys sage, dayo and hustler from bring back good memory (not italy vs france, beryen vs man u)

PS not that i hate man u then, i just hate the way beryen lost.

C&S is so so stupid but i cant stop watching it. whoever wrote the story is better than shakespare. mexican are better than americans, passions and sunset beach sucks.

That was the saddest day of my life. I felt like dying. Another game that got to me was Italy vs France Euro 2000 final and Milan vs Liverpool after that game I almost drove

into some boys in Bauchi who were celebrating Liverpool's victory.

dayo you'v just spoilt my day must you bring up those moments?. those momenst were my futbal worst moments. italy had just a min to go i was so sad that my mum had to console me even though she knows nothing about futbal my brother still makes fun of italy and milan till now.

i wasn't realy sad when milan lost. i ran home b4 the pks. i just knew milan was gonna loose.
but italy and beryen were games i dont want to be riminded of often. i am the only italian fan among my friends ( and this guys are like richboy they are very annoying.)

You buy mercedes dey ask for nylon
why he no go ask for nylon. no be toy car he buy?

yo momma so ugly, when she cries the tears run down ffrom the back of her head.

i think the biggest mistake was removing Lotthar Matthaus. that game was realy painfull ( more than milan vs liverpool)i almost cried and couldn't go to sch the next day.

when it comes to TALENT holland are definately up there along wit spain,france,brazil ,argentina.i don't think italy or germany hav as much talent at their disposal compared to any of those nations,but they both make good use of what theyve got.

italy has the talent, just that they dont get overrated like other countries. what has spain done with her talent? italy has lots of promising young players like de rosi, aquilliani, dosina, motolivo etc. did you watch iatly south africa?

I don't think he has spent a season in Bayern. so whats the talk about him wanting to go to europe? i don't know of any club in europe running after him. even Podolski

Kroos will be a great player. this present beryen is realy good. that attack is massive, midfield balance, defence? i dont know much about that.

hey hustler and dayo. thx men you refreshed my memory big time. i have completely forgotten about that beyern era. i effenburg was my best player then. my best moment was the season beryern won the CL beat their nemesis ( defeating madrid and man u) i was realy glad that season.

well i think the present beryen is not as good as the golden team. i saw one of their match and they played realy strong. this beryen reminds me of juve of 2002-4

you know guys i think had nigeria won the match against italy in 94 we could have gone realy far in that wc. you meet spain, then romania, dont think we could have beaten brazil though.
that's what i think.
what ya think.

I know you like calculating. How many years did it take Holland to win that trophy? And have you seen Holland playing a World cup final? Hell NO. don't compare them with someone that has won it before

Hey, don't let me do this, Holland is my team

but got to the wc final which i believe they shud have won. england didn't deserved the win against gemany in that final u know that. Holland is the brazil of europe they produce fantastic players.
tkb name name great english players for the past 2 decades that can stand the likes of van basten, rijkard, gullit, dennis beckamp, seedorf, etc.

holland deserve more than the trophies they'v got now. england shouldn't av got any thing at all.

makinwa hardly plays for lazio even though lazio has just 3 strikers. even if nigerians play in smaller teams it will tell on their performance. luca toni, barzagli, and zaccardo all played in serie B prior to thier winning the wc. that tells alot about the league over there.

when france had about 70% of their players playing (or how have played) they won the wc and ec. they'v not won anything since the exsodus of their players from calcio.

hey dayo, sage, I-man,
you guys are right most especially about kaka. the guy was playing out of his skin through the league and even b4 the man u clash but ignorance of calcio couldn't make them see that. i realy respect EPL but its pisses me off when ppl think its the best league. for the past 10yrs how many times have they been to the final of CL. how many players have won the Ballon' or dion from there (1 owen) no other person from there. even germany had the 1st player from there luther Matthius, then we have baggio, zidane ronaldo (real one) figo, canavaro, weah and soon to be Kaka. CR is still young 21 i think but messi is growing better that will hamper CR chance of winning it because messi is fast becoming a legend.

my brief is that EPL is no doubt EPL rank among the very best but its not the best.

sagna and diarra were bought in the SAME transfer window.Besides,sagna has bin benching eboue throughout this season,and hes "new",eboue has bin arsenals #1 right back 4 d past 2 years.

hey richy diarra was used against italy because domenech was trying to avoid defeat. you could see that the guy the not overlap at all in that game.

EPL players have great pace and stamina (drogba CR, rooney, teves, etc)
Laliga & calcio players have great techniques and tactical ability. ( R10, totii, Ibrahimovich, messi, kaka, pirlo, seedorft etc.) why do nu think R10 did not come to EPL, or why do u think Shevi isa flop in EPL.

This weekend Roma -Milan, Arsenal-Liverpool and Sevilla-Valencia were all excellent matches of the highest order.

in fact those macthes were great no doubt.

i beg who they mention England here. we are not talking rugby here oo. I foul wc and lots of sh**t european and world cup tournament.

dayo i fear you o. are you igbo, yoruba or german? dont force me to speak latin to you too o. cos i am italian to the bone.
FORZA AZZURRI.
you know what, i think if more nigerian play in the serie a nigeria will be better of. (if you dont know what i mean then ask Germany wc90, brazil wc94, france wc98, brazil wc02, azzurri,

agentina they play well now and that guy messi is off the hook.

You are so ugly,
when you joined an ugly contest, they said "Sorry, no professionals."

yea you are right thats right. i think it was stupid that barca bought henry. but it will come to a time when he wont be able to use 'em all.

Yo Momma's so fat she farted in the Gulf of Mexico and caused Hurricane Katrina.