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Cornpop:
This old granny says he gave up dialog

I will play grammar police on you simply because you're obnoxious, when insulting get your spellings right or your insults will insult you first, the correct spelling is ''dialogue'' and also ''old'' and ''granny'' aren't insults, you'd be lucky to be addressed as such

benalvino2:
Are you kidding me? If it's so great tell me why blacks to flock over there. Especially Japan.

American blacks didn't flock to America neither did Japan colonise any African nation so there is no or little historical correlation between japan and the black race. In contrast since blacks were taken to America as slaves and their decendants were emancipated and freed becoming citizens they by law and policies have not yet been allowed the benefits of citizenship on the basis of racial discrimination. Mind you the other critical point apart from race is citizenship, if they were citizens in name why weren't they treated as actual citizens in truth? If race is your answer then you have understood my point

DissTroy:
You still don't freaking get it or you are deliberately avoiding the point. From the very first post I made on this thread today, it's been about the shameless, barefaced hypocrisy of demonising Trump meeting with Putin for 4 years but turning around to praise Biden for being chummy with the same Putin.

I think you're getting something wrong but still I can only speak for myself, I don't think meeting with Putin in and of itself was what trump was being criticised for and Biden praised for, that is your interpretation of it as it is a given that presidents of both countries as leading power blocs in the world meet periodically, it is the performance of both American presidents in those meetings that was being compared. So no, no hypocrisy there.

I'm not even arguing policies. Hypocrisy is almost worse in my books.

I'd rate a girl who screwed five men and admits it over a girl who's being sanctimonious and demonising pre-marital sex, only to get pregnant for her boyfriend outside wedlock. None is better ideally but the hypocrisy makes it worse.

If I am going to criticise you for scamming a person, I am a hypocrite for praisesinging a director who embezzled money. If one is a thief, the other is a thief too.

It's the very reason Buhari is getting this much hatred. Not because he's personally the worst person on earth or the APC is all evil but because of being hypocrites - doing the very things they condemned past administrations for.

If my friend and my enemy steal, both are thieves, my relationship with either regardless.

Stated this from the very day I posted on this thread and haven't derailed from it - calling out Leftist hypocrisy.

You can play to the gallery in your attempt to avoid the obvious truth but that doesn't make it less of a the truth.

since you've stated that for you it's not about policies I guess there isn't anything else to discuss about

benalvino2:
I could go by the tenets though. I was just trying to let Timiofak understand that what he was explaining is not what CRT is all about. I saw your "race as a social construct" post. We could take about that. This time we should not apply it to the US, we should base it in the Nigerian system.

So how do you classify race in Nigerian going by CRT

our definition of race in Nigeria is a derivative of our colonial era classification and it is based on phenotypical skin colour which worldwide is what race came to be recognised as after centuries and generations of subjugation of the black race through slavery first and colonisation and in conjunction with the propagation of the non scientific eugenics theories to justify the subjugation amongst Europeans, mind you, your question is the classification of race in Nigeria which is a homogeneous black or homoracially black phenotypically making issues arising from race non-issues in the Nigerian context. But it does bear to note that the social engineering this resulted to in our time is inferiority complex and there has been a character on this thread who said European Americans were a superior race or is it culture? I can't be certain. In Nigeria, from the top government levels we see things and people white and basically foreign as superior and by extension immune from reproach as compared to black. And since a white race is virtually non existent here CRT becomes redundant and a non-issue here. But since we are human and must have a reason for discrimination the correct analogue in Nigeria is tribalism and that you can draw parallels with CRT with here only it would no longer technically be CRT

benalvino2:
So by your standards give us a great nation.

currently Scandinavian/Nordic countries are great nations, as is Japan, Switzerland. These are countries in the modern era that haven't based any part of their laws and policies on the oppression or suppression of a section of their citizenry

DissTroy:
Biden gifts Putin many things as mark of their new-found friendship: https://www.nairaland.com/6607231/joe-biden-gifts-vladimir-putin
.The media and the Loonies are praising him for it but attacked Trump who didn't even throw his dignity to the mud asking for a personal friendship like he murdered a person.
That was the beginning of this argument but, no, idiöts would turn a blind eye and think me, their god, would take them seriously or waste my time arguing with loonies on obvious instances of hypocrisy?

I'd rather bash my head on an iron spike, and pass out in the gore which would be better than letting hypocritical propaganda into my mind.

I guess it is a matter of interpretation then, from the perspectives of many myself included trump as the then leader of America threw dignity to the dogs and I am not talking about his personal dignity alone. Russia has always been America's traditional ideological, political and military rival for the better part of almost a century now and after achieving victory against the Soviet block, an American president contradicting his own intelligence agencies publicly on aggravating issues like the hacking of the election process, the placing of bounties on the heads of American servicemen in Afghanistan in favour or in defence of Putin and Russia was the highest form of betrayal of America's dignity and the dignity of the pro-democratic world bloc by an American president. You'd notice I haven't even tackled personal dignity sef

benalvino2:
I don't think you are replying the right person.
I never make the claim in bold. I don't want to go back and forth with you and the bold is the reason why. Timi is the one who thinks crt is about teaching of slavery. I have asked him to look at the tenets of crt and he should also take into consideration that it's a theory.
YOU STARTED BY MISREPRESENTING ME AND YOU WANT ME TO GO BACK AND FORTH WITH YOU? CHECK ALL MY RESPONCE TO HIM THEN CHECK WHAT HE RESPONDED TO.



Again, you don't know my stance or haven't read my response to Timiofak, you just started responding to me.

Also Timiofak, the bolded from GalaticHorde is what I have been telling you. CRT is not about the history of slavery.

and also, you could expand on your position If it pleases you, some of us are here to discuss and exchange ideas. Latching to a perceived error or misinterpretation on the part of an opponent to emphasise why they're wrong but not how they could be right or even if they are not right but how they might have a point is not in the spirit of open dialogue and exchange of ideas, well we are all guilty of that to varying degrees

benalvino2:
I don't think you are replying the right person.
I never make the claim in bold. I don't want to go back and forth with you and the bold is the reason why. Timi is the one who thinks crt is about teaching of slavery. I have asked him to look at the tenets of crt and he should also take into consideration that it's a theory.
YOU STARTED BY MISREPRESENTING ME AND YOU WANT ME TO GO BACK AND FORTH WITH YOU? CHECK ALL MY RESPONCE TO HIM THEN CHECK WHAT HE RESPONDED TO.



Again, you don't know my stance or haven't read my response to Timiofak, you just started responding to me.

Also Timiofak, the bolded from GalaticHorde is what I have been telling you. CRT is not about the history of slavery.

all right, I stand corrected then, my apologies

benalvino2:
Shai. This guy don single handedly set the standards of a great nation and if we go by his ridiculous standards America is still the greatest country

a great nation has to be great for all its citizens and na lie no be me set that standard! That standard was set into the spirit of the declaration of independence and the constitution by the founding fathers. It agreed that as long as you are considered a man certain rights accrue to you automatically but black people firstly haven't been men legally and then sub-men socially after the end of legal slavery to create a barrier to the actualization of the spirit of the declaration of independence and the constitution in regards to them.
Ben na you sef need study CRT pass aswear

htdot:
Nazis are socialism, the conservative are capitalism

says who? Abeg leave this matter as you're obviously not grounded in it. You are basing your definitions strictly on labels

htdot:
Seun, myd44 rule no 2

bwahahahahaha how on alternate reality earth did that break rule 2 or any rule at all? una no go keee pessin here sha!

htdot:
Nazis are in germany... Democrats are the anti israel(jews) party. So, they are the nazi.

see logic! how does anti-zionism equate to Nazism? Or you can't differentiate between anti-zionism and being anti-israel.

benalvino2:
She is not an historian and historians are telling her she got stuff wrong just to put ideology (brainwash) into history. You are here happily celebrating her pulitzer prize. This is how people get brainwashed. You believe what she said cause they gave her award for it and the historians are dummies right?

What does dominant ideology means? You just check the tenets of crt and try to act like you know all this while then say nonsense like dominant ideology.
Please quote it verbatim not paraphrase or what your understanding of it is.

I don't think you know the origin of crt which originated from critical theory. You have no clue of what the post was talking about and yet you attacked it.

Race is a social construct is one of the tenets.
Laugh Wan kill me here timi.

Also by now you should have laid down your arguments on how it teaches the history of slavery.

Check critical theory where crt originated from and notice it has Marxist DNA all over it.

race or it's invention was a socio-economic construct not a genetic or phenotypic or by generally scientific derivation https://www.facebook.com/bobamajbiden/videos/592758177779350 and this is especially why you need to learn CRT. Race was invented as a substitute for class. Before then people were differentiated and when necessary discriminated historically on the basis of ethnicity, nationality, class and religion. Hell, there were even black Roman emperors.

AmazonTopaz:
Obamacare survives in 2012,survives in June 2015 and now June 2021.

On a 5-4,6-3,7-2 vote.
Obamacare really knows how to win at SCOTUS back to back

the more conservative the supreme court the bigger the margin of victory seriously can't republicoons realise this is all just grandstanding by the politicians whipping them up?

AmazonTopaz:
Agent orange and republiQans will not be happy

you're falling for their con, republicoons don't really want to repeal the ACA, they just want to have it as a talking point to campaign with when haraunging their deplorable base, it is a good source of throwing favourites crowd whipping labels like communists and socialists and Venezuela amongst others

benalvino2:
Division and hate will destroy what was a great nation

a great nation for who? Thats the whole reason why even you needs to study CRT! America has never been great for blacks

benalvino2:
You need it because it predates the 1619 report project.
So tell me how it falls in line with the 1619 project and tell me what part of the book that teaches about the history of slavery.

You clearly have no clue what it is.

you know Ben, this is an issue I had with you before, you like framing topics in single talking points that are tangential to the main issues and go ahead to doggedly ignore everything else involved. A good tactic to use with the argumentative and unobservant, but still it is a dishonest tactic especially if you agree there is always something new to learn from an opponent even if not in terms of new information but in terms of a different perspective. I reiterate, CRT isn't especially about or limited to the history of slavery as you're framing it disingenuously, it is especially about the evolution of law and policies and it's differences in application to different groups of people's on the basis of race and the inherent bias still existing in the formulation, interpretation and execution of policies and laws even today in a not too subtle evolution from past obviously racist formats and that is why it is called critical race theory and not critical slavery theory

budaatum:
She is dumb, and does not seem to know if she is coming or going and will crash and burn in due time.

i wanted to say that's shocking, then I rationalized that you expect anything from a coon tool

basilico:
In a nutshell FBI had infiltrated Oath Keepers or some group that they entrapped to burst into the capitol. The agent overseeing this investigation was also the one who entrapped the kidnapping of Michigan governor.
From court filings in the Jan 6 cases there are many guys who were not indicted yet they did the same things or even worse than those indicted, being portrayed as domestic terrorists.Read this investigative piece.
Tucker Carlson was referring to this.
But trust the leftist media to ignore the facts of FBI knowing in advance, helping with the planning and not stopping the plan.Instead letting the Trump supporters go into the capitol where they then become the biggest security threat since 9/11.

https://www.revolver.news/2021/06/federal-foreknowledge-jan-6-unindicted-co-conspirators-raise-disturbing-questions/

lols guy stay of the conspiracies even for a short while for health reasons at least, you are claiming infiltration, Tucker Carlson is claiming they're actually the instigators and planners, Tucker made the jump from are they government agents?(a question) to they're fbi provocateurs in the space of three minutes on his show, Tucker's source is Alex Jones, Alex jone's source are unnamed shadowy loony conspiracy manufacturers on fringe platforms, and you're are at the nairaland end of a self validating cycle of idiocy and I'm disappointed in you because the least I expected you to do is fact check.

benalvino2:
Critical race theory has nothing to do with the history of slavery. They have black history month, and they story it in their history classes.

Please list out the 5 tenets of CRT and tell me if it has anything to do with slavery.

CRT has everything to do with the history of slavery especially in conjunction with the evolution of laws and policies over time into the modern era and no, discrimination against blacks as studying CRT aims to enlighten didn't end with slavery and that is the key point here

Timiofak:
Are you in Nigeria?

let me put into terms for you why what he is doing is totally wrong and how if it was done to people of your tribe you would feel.

your name clearly shows you are Igbo, now the Nigerian civil war was a disaster that should have never happened, though did happen because of some factors and actors. It was a crime against humanity and it should be taught in schools so people can know the past of Nigeria and the evil it has done to a section of Nigerians in which it plunged about 1/3 Nigerian's into hunger and genocide and more than 3 million Igbos did die. imagine if it was removed from history, how would you feel. Now for critical race theory, did what they want to teach happen? Yes, was it evil towards black people? Yes, should it be taught? Obviously.

what republicans are claiming is, it would teach children hate against white people which is a bullshit

I can play that card for any history lesson

I.e teaching about the American civil war would cause hate to southerners, teaching about the Nigerian civil war would cause hate against the fulanis/Hausas. E.t.c

let the truth be revealed, let people understand what happened after slaves were released and how it was It wasn't happily ever after, many were killed many were beaten and lynched. For more than 100 years.

fine I get santis sentiment, he is a politician, he is doing what people that voted him asked him to do

but don't let us be oblivious.

However way you see it. It wasn't going to be taught normally

but basic fact is a certain people are blocking the teaching of history because it would expose America was built on suffering of minorities.

are you sure the person you're trying to explain common sense to can admit their bias, see past it and embrace truth? I'm asking because it beggars belief that a supposedly black man will have any issue with the teaching of CRT all in the name of championing toxic conservatism

basilico:
BREAKING: Nigerian Citizen Was Dominion ‘County Technician’ For Fulton County In 2020 Election…Nigeria Was Involved With Cambridge Analytica In Election Manipulation



https://creativedestructionmedia.com/investigations/2021/03/05/breaking-nigerian-citizen-was-dominion-county-technician-for-fulton-county-in-2020-election-nigeria-was-involved-with-cambridge-analytica-in-election-manipulation/

now Nigeria? Lols una no go keee pessin here aswear

obixcel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzJGff5jarw
He's losing it

how? Do explain how you arrived at that conclusion watching that video

American presidents really are forces to reckon with except when addicted to muscovite golden showers, Biden just proved this today, republicoons must be in sifia pains

EnlightenedUFO:
Please someone help me understand the joker politics these republiqans are playing..
We hear them everytime invoking the terrorist ashli babitts name and demanding justice. Then tucker goes on to blame the FBI for arranging the capitol riot, and even had the guts to say that Biden is using the riot to quash the "opposition" (even when no GOP members who aided the rioters have been thrown out of congress, but white supremacists who have been thrown into jail). They blame capitol police and insinuate that there's a "deep state" thing involved in the riot..

Then they all voted against the Jan.6th commission, the one who would have the power to investigate ashli babbits death or tucker carlson's claims, and all their claims. Right wing fans, is this cognitive dissonance not affecting your mental health?

when you subscribe to convoluted logic where the desired ends can be justified by any means whatsoever then anything goes even cognitive dissonance

basilico:
I did not believe it too. Was there voter switching? That can only be proven by forensic audits.

it depends on what forensic audits mean to you in this context because other neutral and bipartisan enquiries that were deemed acceptable obviously didn't find acceptability with t-rump and his supporters

tamdun:
U guys are barbarians, so voting for candidate of ur choice is backstabbing?

the point is the candidate of your choice had history and was known to be an ethnic bigot but you All demonized Jonathan and whitewashed him into an angel. Well the chicken has finally come home to roost and that is the entire point. Hating Jonathan for ethnic reasons is as bigoted as buhari supporting fulanis for ethnic reasons against other Nigerians

basilico:
Some guy in Italy working for the IC . Came out last year.. Ill look for it.
I have doubts but he did mention names.
went into hiding if I remember.

look for it please because what I read is that it was concocted by one guy on parler or is it q'anon, and gained traction because t-rump was grasping at straws

basilico:
Not come across that. What's wrong with asking for an investigation?
Has Ruby Freeman been deposed?

do the allegations hold water by your assessment?

gbolswag:
Its not just a job sef....I was broke at one point...so I called my friend to borrow me 100k....he said he has just 20k to borrow me or even dash me....he brought it to my house cash I told him to put something on top....then he collected his money back and left..so sad

you be clown wallahi!

Yes and I won't call it a loss, I was only considering it then because the employer and I had a mutual friend. Truth is you are worth what you say you're worth and unless you demand it you won't get it. Besides working for yourself should be everybody's aim

owobokiri:
Former Army officer spends almost a year in an underground gualuag for doing what? "Rapping"!!!
You read right!
Quick one; how many months do "repentant Boko Haram insurgents" spend in five star hotels before being released to continue from where they stopped

e shock me my brother! I can't even understand the mentality of people at the helm of our affairs in this country anymore, their actions are bemusing! Rap is something of a hobby guys indulge in and because he did his on video while on uniform it becomes a supposed crime? Na wa oh