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zendi:
* I am Chlorophobia, a Warrior from the Land of Trumpophobia.
* The dominant culture of my tribe are Liberalism, Leftism and Fascism.
* Sense is not compatible with my culture, let alone commonsense.
* Accordingly, I forbid the use of the 60-70 percent Chloroquine/Hydroxylchloroquine potential against Coronavirus to save anybody's life around here.
* I forbid even the mention by any patient or his doctor that Chloroquine/Hydroxyl... was used to save his life.
* I forbid these things lest they make Trump look good....Trump must not look good for any reason, only bad.
* Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine were made for Malaria and Lupus, nothing else.
* Anybody who cannot overcome the Virus by his natural immunity and paracetamol should quietely head to the Cemetry to wait for a COVID19-specific, WHO-certified cure to be brought to him there in 2021/22.
* I repeat, I have neither use nor need for commonsense, or even overly concern for human lives, and will enforce these draconian measures most ruthlessly.

Lol, You perfectly captured the insanity of liberals in this one post.

wirinet:
I have also attached links that the CDC is trying to distance itself from president Dr. Donald Trump's cure for coronavirus.


I am sure in your minds, the French doctor and the CDC have joined the "Deep State". You guys need to be put on psychotic drugs permanently, else you will constitute a danger to yourselves and society.

Of all sources to cite, you are quoting the salon? One of the worst leftist conspiracy rags out there and I bet you never tried to confirm their fake news, you just swallowed it without thinking. I went through the article in your link and sure enough the salon were lying their fake news asses off. Firstly, Dr Didier raoult has never put out any statement to the effect that his trials did not meet expected standards, that's a blatant lie. Even the source that the salon linked to clearly mentioned that it wasn't Dr Didier that put out that statement but another group that was criticizing him but the salon gotta fake the news as they always do. The only statement Dr Didier has put out is the one where he warned people not to self medicate which is common sense. You've just been bamboozled with lies by a fake news site. You really need to lay off the fake news pills before accusing anyone of being psychotic.

GalaticHorde:
but someone has died taking it without prescription! The question is, where and from whom did that person get that brilliant idea?

Nobody died taking prescription chloroquine and you know it. The person that died actually ingested fish tank cleaner and not the chloroquine tablets Trump spoke about

TheShopKeeper:
Bernie Sanders Drops Out Of Presidential Race, Ceding Nomination To Biden

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-drops-out-democratic-race_n_5e683928c5b60557280d408f

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) ended his bid for the White House on Wednesday, effectively handing the Democratic nomination to former Vice President Joe Biden and ending hopes that a progressive challenger would take on President Donald Trump in November.

Sanders announced the news on a conference call with campaign staffers.

Sanders was seen as a front-runner in the Democratic race, surging to the top of the polls before a series of poor showings on Super Tuesday and subsequent primaries. After a series of big losses to Biden, all campaigning virtually ground to a halt due to social distancing restrictions put in place to help ease the strain of the coronavirus pandemic.

Many leading Democrats and onetime candidates had thrown their weight behind Biden after ending their own bids, including former mayor Pete Buttigieg; Sens. Kamala Harris (Calif.), Amy Klobuchar (Minn.) and Cory Booker (N.J.); and billionaire Mike Bloomberg. The support for his competitor left the Sanders campaign reeling with limited options to secure enough delegates going into the Democratic National Convention, which was delayed until August because of coronavirus.

Biden had pitched himself as the most electable candidate, and polls showed that Democrats were, indeed, primarily interested in finding a candidate who could take out Trump ― even if they didn’t agree with that person on every issue.

They were never gonna let him be the nominee anyway. They know Americans would never vote in a socialist as president, at least not this year.

America was never going to vote for a socialist

ornicus:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/07/twitter-thread-launched-trump-coronavirus-drug-170557

Very long article. This is what you get in the age of trump. Turning an article by non medical practitioners into a magic bullet.

I will continue to say, this is not a movie. This is real life. Its in movies the hero bucks all logic to find a cure or deliver an element in under two hours.

All that has happened is that the hypeman on the white House has given people false hope, because that is all he has.

Fake News!!! In real life, lives are being saved by doctors using chloroquine, your liberal governors are now begging for shipments of Chloroquine. In the delusional mind of TDS afflicted liberals, the only thing exists is, orange man bad! Orange man bad!! Orange man bad!!!

ornicus:
Trump and his supporters don't read.

Lol, so it's you liberals that read? right in that article you were told, Navarro based on his projections made a case for an immediate ban of travel from China. That was on January 29. Two days later on January 31, Trump did just that and guess those who opposed it as being racist and xenophobic? Your liberal media and politicians!! Even you were still attacking the travel ban few days ago here. So who doesn't read? Is it Trump who followed the recommendation made by Navarro or is it you and your liberal leaders? Your Democrat politicians including your presidential candidate have all just recently turned around to admit that Trump was right after all.

wirinet:
You guys don't know how scientific claims work, it is different from religious claims. You make an hypothesis and back up your claims with verifiable data. You must also published your findings in a scientific journal, so every one can understand how and why it works.

If you open a simple chloroquine pack for the treatment of malaria, it will contain a leaflet detailing how the drug kills the malaria parasite, it will provide details on which enzymes or properties of the parasite it attacks. Same with other antibacterial and antivirus drugs. Even HIV drugs will explain how it stops the virus from further replicating.

This case is just like a traditional medicine man that claims he cured staphylococcus with "agbo" and believe me, there are hundreds of such claims. We hear how many people he has cured without any reports or scientific basis.

Just shut the hell up!!! What do you know about science? One of France's top most infectious diseases specialist conducted a scientific clinical trials that produced the results that made the French government to approve chloroquine for use against the coronavirus but you belittle him and continue to spew liberal propagandists bullshit yet you want to talk about science?

This is your Democrat Gov. Andrew Cuomo asking federal government to increase hydroxychloroquine supply because there is evidence that it appears to be working


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JFThng_2bs

Liberal bullshit propaganda hasn't saved a single life, chloroquine has saved many and will continue to save many.

wirinet:
I hope this is not the results you are talking about;


because even a secondary school science students cannot present a mere unverified claim as a test results .

Where have you ever seen a clinical trial consisting of only 80 test subjects by one doctor with no control and no actual report.

So a clinical trial conducted by a world renowned physician who specializes in infectious diseases is not good enough for you? GTFOH!!!

wirinet:
Please share the lab tests where success rate of Hydroxychloroquine in treating coronavirus is 80%. If success rate is 80%, why is the fatality rate still very high? Why do thousands of people die each day?

More importantly, why haven't British doctors rushed hydroxychloroquine to Boris Johnson, he is in critical condition, and his conservative party would not want him to die in order to spite Trump.

Oh my God!! How many times will the results be shared on this thread before you stop asking for it to be posted again? Something that has been shared over and over again by at least three different people on the forum and you even commented and debated about it when it was posted. As for BoJo, the choice is his, Britain is one of the countries that have refused to give Chloroquine a trial so I won't be surprised if their situation becomes as terrible as italy and Spain.

Coronavirus deaths are spiking at an alarming rate in Democrat controlled areas, Michigan and New Jersey are shaping up to become the next Democrat run coronavirus clusterfuck states after New York. Also keep an eye on illinois in the coming weeks, that state is being run by one of the most clueless jokers I have ever seen. From the current trajectory, Democrats controlled states could be accounting for more than 90% of coronavirus deaths in the US by the end of this week.

wirinet:
Do you guys ever read the links you provide past the headings. You Google a targeted phrase and then get linked to one obscure site with a report that looks like it was written while taking a shit in a loo.
Here are excerpts from your link;


President Trump is taking credit for saving her life by touting the drug (by divine vision). What of the over 10,000 deaths so far and the over 100,000 Trump is expecting to die, who takes credit for them?



The said rep. just learnt on Monday 30th March that she has coronavirus, and started taking hydroxychloroquine the next day which provided a miraculous cure immediately. Meanwhile she and her husband had sought treatment for a range of symptoms since 18th of March.
So what treatment had she undergone for two weeks prior to the miraculous cure?


Trump is next to Jesus, infact Trump is a Saviour. He is the only person in the world that found a cure for coronavirus.

- No place in that post did president Trump take credit for anything, it was the Democratic rep herself that was giving Trump credit for touting a drug that saved her life

- You've been accusing anyone who supports the use of chloroquine of being a Trump supporter. Well, here you have a democrat rep and she's telling you the same thing, chloroquine is saving lives!!

- As for who will take responsibility for the 10,000 deaths, maybe you should look at the Democrat governors whose states are currently accounting for about 85% of coronavirus deaths in America. Go figure why that much deaths are occuring in Democrat controlled states.

- You are just beating about the bush, the point in that article is that chloroquine saved the life of that Democrat rep, you liberals can propaganda all you want, chloroquine is saving lives! Doctors who are smart enough to use it are saving the lives of their patients.

The stupid governor of Michigan banned chloroquine just because Trump touted it, today she is literally begging for shipments of the same chloroquine. She was busy going all around the media to attack Trump instead of facing and battling the crises brewing in her state, now her state has the third highest death rate and is escalating rapidly. Democrat governed states are currently accounting for over 80% of the coronavirus deaths in the US yet they are more interested in playing politics instead of sitting their stupid asses down and working hard to defeat the virus.

Liberals aren't providing any solutions, all they do is criticize and try to stand in the way of any help that is being offered to coronavirus patients because they prefer for people to die. Michigan and New Jersey are shaping up to become the next Democrat run coronavirus clusterfuck states thanks to liberal stupidity.

budaatum:
President Trump spent a portion of Sunday’s press briefing yet again promoting an unproven treatment for the novel coronavirus, repeatedly asking, “What do we have to lose?”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/06/coronavirus-fauci-trumpdrugs/

Unproven? Tell that to the Democratic rep in the link below whose life was saved from the coronavirus by the use of chloroquine. Liberals, Democrats and the fake news media can all go eat shiit!!! Lives are being saved by doctors using chloroquine. This lady is a democrat rep, wirinet can't accuse her of being a Trump stooge. Read her story and stop this foolish liberal propaganda by the fake news media

https://amp.freep.com/amp/2955430001

He strikes again!!

Joe Biden: “We cannot let this, we’ve never allowed any crisis from the Civil War straight through to the pandemic of 17, all the way around, 16, we have never, never let our democracy sakes second fiddle, way they, we can both have a democracy and ... correct the public health.”

What the hell is he trying to say?

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dvt7WPjsYl44&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwig5oTCpdToAhUE2BoKHc_pBCsQuAIwAHoECAkQAg&usg=AOvVaw3xHZ0ENZb5cWNxwPLvF8Y-

I have just checked the current figures and I can confirm that as of right now, the top 7 states with the highest coronavirus deaths are all run by Democrats;

1. New York - 3,565
2. New Jersey - 856
3. Michigan - 540
4. Loiusiana - 409
5. California - 324
6. Washington - 318
7. Illinois - 245

Massachusetts in eighth has the highest death rate of the Republican controlled states with 216 deaths.

budaatum:
I had to check. The current top five most infected states are led by Democrats. Massachusetts, the sixth, is run by a Republican.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/obamacare-s-health-care-protections-face-first-true-test-coronavirus-n1176231

Modified: I think you're right, your figures are more updated than mine

Cc: budaatum

basilico:
Fredo's brother who goes by the name Cuomo the governor of New York was crying daily on TV about Trump not helping .Saying he needed 30k ventilators . Thats 30k beds too.

Trump sent two 1000 bed hospital ships staffed by 800-1000 personnel to York and Calif.
The ships were meant to treat non Wuhan virus patients only so that hospital resources could better take care of the corona patients.
Rachel Maddow of MSNBC lied about the ships not making it to Calif and York in a matter of months. The ships docked within a few days. Maddow the lesbian never apologised.

Both ships have treated only 19 patients so far.Talk about waste of resources. Talk about media lying about how New York needs extra 30k beds and so far the hospital ship has treated only 10 non Wuhan (deliberate referring it Wuhan) virus cases.

Yesterday the New York hospital authorities sent 3 patients to the ship with corona knowing fully well that it was only meant for non Wuhan virus patients. Sounds sabotage to me. They claimed it was a mistake. Main stream media not reporting this.

Dems are nothing short of evil. Extremely evil devious pathetic sons of bittches.

To add salt to injury the Dems led by pencil neck Schiff ,Pelosi and Schumer are trying to investigate the crisis and specifically Trump response to the Wuhan virus crisis. Dont forget that as soon as Trump banned flights from China these scumbags called him xenophobic and racist to boot.

You're spot on with this, these Democrats are not just incompetent, they are evil people to the core.

The foolish Democrat governor of Wisconsin has decided to go ahead with the state's presidential primaries on Tuesday. What can go wrong? Keep an eye on the coronavirus infections and deaths rates in Wisconsin. I don't want to hear any stupid liberal mentioning Trump's name if the numbers start spiking after Tuesday.

The irony of liberals describing Governor Cuomo of New York as being presidential in the middle of his disastrous handling of the coronavirus crises is melting irony detectors. The same people who cry from morning till night blaming Trump for everything about the virus are praising the governor who is presiding over the highest numbers of infections and deaths in the US. Hypocrites of the highest order.

wirinet:
I know that with your selective amnesia you blind, deaf and dumb to the admission on live TV by a Republican Governor (governor Kemp) that he only learnt yesterday that asymptomatic patients can speading the virus. Is incompetence a Republican targeted disease?

How can you accuse the governor of Georgia of incompetence when he has managed the crises in his state very efficiently as a result of which they have recorded 183 deaths compared to the moronic liberal in New York who has presided over the deaths of over 3,500 people as at the last count. It's really the height of absurdity for any liberal to point hands at any Republican governor right now because your own governors' incompetence is the reason why the US death rate is increasing by the day. Go check out the list of coronavirus deaths by states in the US and the top 6 states with the highest death rates are all governed by a Democrat. The highest death rate in a republican controlled state is Georgia with 183 deaths. Don't even try to get into that comparison. When it comes to this coronavirus crises, Democrat governors have been the poster boys of incompetence across the US.

BREAKING: New York "Accidentally" Delivered Coronavirus patients to the USNS Comfort... Which was supposed to only be for NON Coronavirus Patients..

The hits just keep on rolling with the morons in charge of New York..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8187879/Multiple-coronavirus-patients-mistakenly-transferred-New-York-hospital-ship.html

Tomorrow some liberal morons will start blaming Trump when the death rate in New York keep skyrocketing.

ornicus:
Guy. Will you stop highlighting your empty stupidity. Trumps knee jerk travel ban does not erase his storm of denials. I hope you don't take the trump approach in your actual life. South Korea and the US had their first cases on the very same day.

The US had China, the UK, Italy and Iran to look to as guides for what could happen. But your favorite clown in office issues a meaningless travel ban, then ran off to mara lago

Lets use a quite your favorite idiot used in 2015. 'it's on you'

Now Watch the Democrat and liberal media hoax kill 200,000 Americans while trump rakes up likes on twitter and kushner tells the US the federal stockpile is the federal stockpile.

You're the one who is stupid not me. Almost every country in the world has put a travel ban in place to combat the coronavirus. Even your presidential candidate now supports it but you think you are wiser than the whole world leaders? That is stupidity of the highest order.

The following liberal idiots called Trump's China travel ban xenophobic and racist;

Nancy Pelosi
Chuck Schumer
Joe Biden
Bernie Sanders

Now more than two months later Joe Biden is agreeing that Trump was right after all. Can you imagine that? Imagine if this clown was in charge, he would have made the right call two months later than Trump did.

Joe Biden's campaign said Friday the former vice president supports President Donald Trump's January 31 decision to ban foreign nationals who had been in China within the previous 14 days from entering the United States.

"Joe Biden supports travel bans that are guided by medical experts, advocated by public health officials, and backed by a full strategy," Kate Bedingfeld, Biden's deputy campaign manager, told CNN. "Science supported this ban, therefore he did too."

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/03/politics/joe-biden-trump-china-coronavirus/index.html

cc: ornicus, you've been bad mouthing the travel ban all day. Even Joe Biden thinks you're wrong and Trump did the right thing

wirinet:
Since you guys have been conditioned not to believe your ears and eyes and even your senses, I will transcribe the video for others to learn.
Here it is;
;The virus, the're working hard, looks like by April when it's gets a little warmer, it miraculous goes away. I hope that's true. But we are doing great in our country. China, I spoke with president xi and they are working very very hard, and I think it's all going to work out fine. Rough stuff, I tell you rough rough stuff, but I think it's going to work out good. We only have 11 cases and they are all getting better.

Now who takes responsibility for Trump's words? Was it the same "expert" that told him coronavirus will miraculously dissappear in April, that also told him chloroquine will cure the virus? Arguing with you guys is like arguing with the wind, you blow in all and every direction.
Even Islamic fundamentalists do not argue so senselessly.

So when someone says "I hope that's true" to you it means that the person is saying it will definitely happen Does Trump's words look like someone that is giving a definite timeline for the coronavirus ending? First he says "it looks like" then he says "I hope it's true" and you somehow miraculously concluded he was saying the virus will definitely be gone by April. This is the same "I hear whatever I want to hear" mentality that made some foolish liberals to go and drink fish tank cleaner and then try to blame Trump for their own stupidity.

ornicus:
An opinion piece? You are really grasping at straws

From someone who was a member of the team? Who was directly invoved in the events he is talking about? You would rather believe tales from people who were not there than from someone who was there?

ornicus:
Im sure you said the same when he disbanded the pandemic response team. And when he was all set to cut cdc’s budget?

Don’t you yokels get it yet?

This is why American is where it is today. Trump keeps firing technocrats and replacing them with dick sucking yes men. Now you have Jared kushner in charge of the coronavirus response

What could possibly go wrong beyond some rewriting of webpages?

Trump did not disband the pandemic response team, that's another big fat lie you picked up from the fake news media. If you're really interested in knowing what really happened, you can read about it from someone who was directly involved here;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/16/no-white-house-didnt-dissolve-its-pandemic-response-office/

ornicus:
You see why I call you a yokel? Anyway what do I expect from someone worshipping mr I take no responsibility. That is what leadership is about. The deaths of Americans are on trumps hands because of his gross incompetence. Anyway, thanks to people like you he has yuuuge Facebook numbers so it’s all good.

Trump didn't kill anyone, if your assertions is that because he is the president then he is responsible, you must also spread the same responsibility to all governors who are even more responsible for their own states but to try to exonorate your libtard governors and lay all the blame at Trump's feet is the height of hypocrisy. Trump has supported all states both Democrats and Republican controlled so why is it that the Republicans seem to have theirs under control while the Democrats are presiding over a clusterfuck of disasters in theirs?

ornicus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvE9hCZ-jaU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KY83kAepHE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTjTaR748eg

Don’t blow a gasket ooo

Better retreat to foxnews where you can swallow some ignorance is strength, Oceania was always at war with eastasia kool aid

If you're referring to these videos, what did he say in them that wasn't true at the time he said it?

ornicus:
Oga, did you miss my own videos or are you blind? The internet is chock full of videos of trump playing down this crisis.

Don’t worry, it’s only the blood of 200,000 souls on trumps tiny hands. So much winning. He saved so many more people with his ineffective travel ban.

Was it Chinese or Americans who were first diagnosed in Washington state?

Firstly, no one's blood is on Trump's hands because Trump did not kill anyone and which of your own videos are you talking about? I haven't seen any. The post I responded to was the one in which your liberal friend claimed Trump said the virus will be gone by April but Trump didn't say that in the video. He was simply expressing his hope that with the changing weather conditions, the virus could be gone.