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ornicus:
Acceptance of a meaningless symbolic gesture that did nothing? There are over 200,000 cases in the us and you yokels can still point to that incompetent act as a sign of leadership?

Small wonder you republicans are the party of idiots.
Do all those videos point to a man who took the virus seriously? Anyway, it is known trump doesn’t read briefings

Enjoy this

More great leadership

A man who cannot even follow his own guidelines. Americans, accept your fking. And in all this chaos , trump found time to fire the Ukrainian whistleblower. The man has his priorities straight.

Another big fat lie from you again!! Trump has not fired the Ukraine whistle blower. Though I believe he should fire the deep state idiot anyway, he hasn't done it yet. I believe you are referring to the intelligence community IG who was fired because Trump doesn't trust him anymore. If that's the case, then I have only two words, GOOD RIDDANCE!!!

wirinet:
You know that the Internet never forgets, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svrxYLvJYto
I know it does not matter to trumptards as they have been ordered to believe their ears and eyes, but only what they have been told to believe by Trump.

You know the problem with libtards is always English comprehension. Did you even watch the video you posted? Trump said they are working very hard and they hope that by April with the changing weather conditions that the virus disappears, he even clearly used the words "I hope that's true". So in your libtard world you can't differentiate between when someone says he hopes something will happen and when he says it will definitely happen? Y'all really need to go back to your basic English language classes, why does one always have to explain to you things that were said in simple English?

obixcel:
So the libtard admitted Trump did issue the ban? But he started with denial, moved to Acceptance of reality and now deflection and on to another baseless claim

Lol , that guy is really something else

obixcel:
Lol..the liberal dummies are the experts in shifting the goal post, they end up chasing their own tails since they keep going round in circles.

It's their favourite tactics, they they throw out as many lies as possible and then keep moving the goalposts whenever their lies are exposed. They learnt very well from their fake news liberal media

ornicus:
Dummy, Every ‘liberal media’ article agrees that trump issues a travel ban. No one has ever denied that. The problem is that a travel ban does nothing and therefore counts as nothing. Can you get that through your empty head?

My avoiding Chinese I come across will not protect me from the coronavirus. Saying I will not let Chinese into my house will not protect me either.

Social distancing, hand washing, wearing face masks will.

Do you understand yet? An empty symbolic gesture meant to appeal to your base of America first hicks would not have done anything.

So stop desperately jumping on my so called admission that your favorite fool read an foreboding intelligence briefing and did the least he could, while telling people it will be gone in April, I know these things etc etc

Dummy, If every liberal article agrees Trump issued a travel ban in response to the coronavirus threat then why did you come here to lie that he did nothing and ignored the intelligence briefings if not that you're a typical dishonest, liberal liar? If You think the travel ban was a futile venture, then you must believe the whole world is being run by idiots because almost every country in the world have implemented travel bans in response to the coronavirus threat. And you are telling another pathetic lie when you say Trump said the virus will be gone by April. That's another big fat lie !!
Enough with the lies already!!

ornicus:
When you’re a trumpanzee, every problem is solved with a travel ban. Ces fini

When you're a liberal nincompoop, you first lie that nothing was done then try to move the goalposts to an argument about travel ban when your lies are exposed. And it's c'est fini not that rubbish you wrote there.

wirinet:
You guys are living in an alternate universe, so your perception of reality is opposite of what it really is. I don't blame you guys anyway, your messiah already instruct you not to believe your very eyes or use your brains, but to accept anything that emanates from his own mouth.


Therapy in this particular case does not mean cure. Even the CDC had warned that the Coronavirus has no cure or vaccine. So it's you people that is promoting or insinuating that any drug as a drug that is talking nonsense.


You are just making unfounded assumptions and then using those assumptions as a basis to justify your views. How do you know that a vast majority of doctors are Americans - Republicans at that? If Trump’s people could get the CDC to approve chloroquine for the treatment of chloroquine just by the words of Trump, without conducting any tests, don't you think writing a "report" on Sermo.com would be a breeze?
When was the survey carried out and how many non Americans participanted. Japanese doctors are definitely excepted, as they generally disagree with the use of chloroquine for treatment of coronavirus.



As pointed out abroad. Let's see the actual results of the so called survey and not just unsubstantiated claims. Even UK is against the use of chloroquine to cure coronavirus.


Whether professionals or quacks, science does not work on personal or group opinions. You need to prove it works, with verifiable proof and explain how and why it works in a scientific paper that can be read by all.



OK, my error. Nothing is nothing and not paracetamol, didn't see the comma after the nothing.
Having said that, if 'nothing' is the third best therapy, what does that say about the first and second best therapies? It means they cannot be proven to work. To prove a drug works, you need to carry out clinical trials with control. The control being placebos given to a second group. If the results of the drug are not much different from the control, the whole result is discarded.

In all these turanchi, you failed to answer the most pertinent question;
Did the use of chloroquine alter the general fatality figures of infected people in the US or any other country using it as a cure? Maybe that's the secret of Nigeria and other Africans countries, because we have less than 1% fatality rate.

Look, you will save yourself a lot of unnecessary questions by going to the Sermo website and reading the report for yourself. All these questions you're asking are already answered in the report You will have to register first before accessing the report though.

ornicus:
Those ones that could not even enforce lockdown? Those ones their trump supporter hicks who are as dumb as you and as psychotic as wowcat? Those ones , unfortunately will be textbook cases. I hope trump sha sends them the chloroquine stockpile like did with Florida.

We shall see about that shan't we? But We have already seen the clusterfuck going on the Democrat states compared to their Republican colleagues who are also battling the coronavirus

ornicus:
For an uneducated lout like yourself, a travel ban answers all things.

The travel ban was a reactive and empty response. The sort of thing trumps base of illiterates ( people like yourself ) would celebrate as effective leadership

Did trump deploy the CDC to start testing people?
Did trump link up with The Who to develop a test kit?
Did he start the process of stockpiling medical supplies

Before the Lagos lockdown, I had already started buying food supplies because I could see it coming.

I see illiterates avoiding Chinese.

If you think you can celebrate trump for getting 1/5, that is the standard for you yokels. The deaths and crisis should be enough to tell you how much of a failure that strategy is. And the success of the Koreans, Taiwanese , Chinese is right in your face.

But you jokers can continue chasing empty travel ban and unproven medicine.

Firstly you're the one who is an educated lout and a joker.

Secondly, whatever opinion you have about Trump's decision to ban travel from China is your business, my own is that you shouldn't come here to spread lies that Trump ignored and did nothing about the intelligence briefings. You are not talking to your fellow low info, liberal ignoramuses on this forum. You can't even see how pathetic you sound jumping from saying he did nothing to now arguing that he did something but you don't agree with it.

ornicus:
You actually think if this cocktail actually worked out and was not just a desperate pipe dream we would not be seeing the results?

The virus is about to hit the red states. Let them drink chloroquine morning noon and night. Maybe if we are lucky one of the Fox News talking heads will catch it and show us one on one how effective chloroquine is

The results are already been seen among those that are using it, the success rate is very high. Unfortunately most people are not using it and that's because of liberal propaganda and scaremongering. As for the virus hitting red states, I am not worried, I am confident that red state governors will do a great job containing the pandemic unlike their incompetent and Moronic Democrat colleagues

ornicus:
You dummy, you are hailing trump for doing the only thing he knows a travel ban. A situation that calls for a multi pronged approach, your fool in the White House did only one ineffectual thing ( travel bans don’t work) and you like a low information bumpkin, are celebrating him for that?

Are you still in wild denial of all his denials two months prior?

Were trumps republican senators who were privy to the intelligence reports not echoing him in public while selling off in private?

That is your precious Republican Party. They will let idiots like you die so they can get rich. Survival of the richest while the stupid hicks die

You're the one who is a dummy full of liberal drivel. Oh, so you admit Trump banned travel from China in January in response to the coronavirus threat? So why come here to lie that Trump ignored and did nothing about intelligence briefings on coronavirus? That you disagree with his approach is your own cup of tea but don't you ever come here to lie that Trump ignored the briefings and did nothing about it. You are not only a low info bumpkin, you are also a hypocritical bumpkin!! Why do you keep mentioning Republican congressmen sold stocks while conveniently leaving out that Democrats did the same? Finally, Trump has never denied the coronavirus threat, he simply gave assessment reports that were true at that time. As at the time of his saying them, the US was safe and had very minimal coronavirus cases. That the situation has since changed doesn't make his proclamation at the time false

ornicus:
The one thousand people who died must have somehow missed this miracle cocktail. What were those figures you were throwing around? 65/80?

Can your responsible right wing rags actually show us the survivors?

See how right wing wankers are suddenly interested in medical studies

Wonders

Left wing wankers have never been known to be smart, the 78 out of 80 successful treatment rate was from a trial conducted in France by a medical doctor. This is easily verifiable from French news sites. I and others have already posted links on this forum to personal testimonies of successful use of chloroquine in treatment of coronavirus but you're still asking for the survivors how many days later? It seems with people like you, information flies in one ear and flies out the other in a jiffy, nothing is retained in the memory . The death toll will continue to rise because effective drugs like chloroquine are not being widely used by doctors in the US to combat the virus and this is because of the resistance and scaremongering by the media and liberal fools. If you truly believe that chloroquine is not effective for coronavirus treatment then you must also admit that your democrat governors who are now requesting for it in large quantities must be really stupid for doing so.

ornicus:
You are quoting Washingtontimes, a right wing rag?
Did you miss the deaths on the FP?
Your miracle drug is working in Lala land

I have gone through it, and it is not listing actual numbers of survivors. You think if choloroquine actually lowered the curve trump would not be out shouting about it, instead of saying 100,000 deaths is not a bad thing?

Unfortunately for you, your left-wing fake news media refuse to carry any positive news on the battle against coronavirus so you have to make do with the responsible right wing media. As for the survey report, you don't have to believe it because of the Washington times, the story is all over medical and science based journals but your fake news liberal propagandists media refused to even make mention of it.
Here's a link to one:

https://techstartups.com/2020/04/02/hydroxychloroquine-is-the-most-effective-therapy-for-coronavirus-treatment-a-global-survey-of-over-6000-doctors-shows/

And this is the link directly to sermo, the global medical doctors forum that carried out the survey but you have to register first to access the report:

https://www.sermo.com

wirinet:
If it was Hillary Clinton, the Republicans would not let us hear word for the next 10 years. The Republicans hammered on Benghazi debacle for 2 full years. Till today, they still hammer on Emails after 2 years of investigations.
If Obama was this incompetent, I am sure the Republicans would have declared a civil war.


Imagine, the intelligence agencies warned Trump and his Republican senators early january about an incoming pandemic, what did Trump and his Republican friends do? They quickly sold of their stocks and bought medical stocks, and did nothing, waiting for the pandemic to hit.
When the pandemic finally hit, they blame the Democrats and even Obama for the pandemic and the resulting deaths.


Imagine putting Jared Kushner in charge of managing the pandemic. Kushner a spoilt kid like Trump himself is now in charge of US foreign policy and domestic policy. And you wonder why they are celebrating an expected 200,000 deaths.

He is the Abba Kyari of US.

You're a pathetic liar!!! Can you show us where Trump sold off any stocks after being informed of an incoming pandemic? Some congressmen and women both Republican and Democrats sold off stocks and they all claimed to not be directly involved in managing their stocks and you're here saying Trump and his friends. Can you point to one single stock Trump sold? When Trump heard about the pandemic and decided to ban travel from China as far back as January, what did your foolish democratic party leaders do? They accused him of racism!! When he banned travel from Europe, they said it won't be effective and accused him of being high handed. Today the same pack of degenerate clowns are accusing him of not acting fast enough. Ridiculous!!!

wirinet:
Clowns. Who declared chloroquine as "the most effective drug?" Did you read to read the reports at all? It's all just speculations that Trump's people are pushing as a cure according to the revelation received by Trump.


The headline of this report says it all


The headline says therapy; what does that tell you? That it's not a cure. Then is most effective therapy is from a survey of some doctors, meaning from the opinion of some doctors (probably Republican doctors ). Science do not work on opinions of anyone, it works by presenting verifiable data confirming your tests and trials, and explaining the reasons behind it. Many doctors in Nigeria will opine that "agbo" is the best therapy for lots of illnesses.

37% of 6227 physicians think that hydroxychloroquine is the “most effective therapy” from a list of 15 options.

From the survey, the most commonly prescribed drug was analgesics ( paracetamol - 56%), then azithromycin (41%) and hydroxychloroquine (33%). From this survey even "nothing" (paracetamol) was rated the 3rd most effective in the treatment of coronavirus.

As I said earlier, the flu industry is a huge scam. Pharmaceuticals make billions selling useless drugs purporting to cure the common Cold. It's your natural immunity that can fight the flu virus itself - no other drugs. This coronavirus does not significantly affect about 80% of those infected, about 20% requires hospitalisation ,while 2 - 4% on average will not survive it. If chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine or any other drug has been tested to significantly alter this statistics, let me know.

You're the one that is a big clown suffering from ignorance and English comprehension problems.

1. Therapy means treatment to relieve or cure a disease. They are synonyms that can be used interchangeably so all those argument you made about use of the word therapy instead of cure is total nonsense!!

2. For you to be insinuating that this report was published by Trump's people just shows how ignorant you are. Sermo is a worldwide forum of doctors in over 150 countries in the world, a big majority of them are not even Americans. Common sense should have told you to checkout the organization doing the survey before accusing them of being Trump stooges.

3. You said the doctors surveyed were probably Republicans? From over thirty different countries In how many countries does the Republican party exist for God's sake?

4. Science doesn't work on people's opinions right? But the people whose opinions were published in that survey happen to be professionals in medical sciences. More than that, they are experts on fighting viral infections, the very people we should be listening to at this time.

5. It seems you can't differentiate between most prescribed and most effective. Most prescribed means the one that has been prescribed most by doctors while most effective means the one that has been most effective in the treatment of coronavirus infections. I am shocked I have to break this simple thing down for you. And please the "nothing" in the report was not referring to paracetamol. It means some doctors recommended giving no drugs at all to the patient hence their opinion was represented by the word "nothing" . The report is saying "nothing" was rated the third best therapy followed by analgesics in fourth, anti - HIV drugs in fifth e.t.c

BTW, Chloroquine has now being declared as the most effective drug in the fight against coronavirus. A survey of doctors opinions from over thirty different countries showed chloroquine as the drug with the highest number of endorsement by the doctors. Some dolts will rather have thousands more die instead of them to accept that Trump was right. The same foolish Dems who criticized Trump for touting chloroquine are no where to be found now that their own Democrat governors are now turning to the same chloroquine. You won't hear a word about it from the hypocrites.


https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/2/hydroxychloroquine-rated-most-effective-therapy-do/

https://m.theepochtimes.com/hydroxychloroquine-rated-most-effective-therapy-for-ccp-virus-by-doctors-in-global-survey_3297097.html/

The moronic Democrat governor of Nevada has also reversed his stupid decision to ban the use of chloroquine for coronavirus care just like his equally moronic Democrat colleague from Michigan. The two idiots are now requesting for shipments of Chloroquine. TDS can make these fools reject a cure for AIDS if Trump endorsed it.

wirinet:
I have never in my entire life seen a more incompetent administrator or manager than Donald J Trump. He had bungled every responsibility he had ever been called upon to undertake. He does not know how to take responsibility for anything, but quick to take credit for the efforts of others.
He bankrupt all his own businesses. His response to the coronavirus was the worst in the whole world.
I pray God bring him back as president come November, then we will see the fastest fall of any superpower the world had ever seen.

Is it not the same Trump that has been supporting other states that are managing the coronavirus crises well? He has even given New York more support than any other states so what's the problem with New York? Other governors are doing a tremendous job with what they got but New York that have received the highest is still blundering from pillar to post. You liberals are very hypocritical, you're praising Governor Cuomo who is directly overseeing and responsible for the New York crises, you're even talking him as a presidential material but you want to lay the blame on Trump in Washington? Is this not the height of hypocrisy that the person who is directly responsible is being hailed by you all but the person who's constitutional role is to provide support to the state is being blamed for the disastrous clusterfuck happening in the state? The clowns running New York should get their acts together and sort this mess out

ornicus:
This is the face of your god trump.

Trump is doing a marvelous job tell your clueless and incompetent Democrat governors to keep up and all will be well

ornicus:
So much winning. And now Americans are literally sick.

So it's Trump that is making them sick? Or is it only Americans that are sick or is there no global epidemic ravaging the whole world right now? BTW, the Democrat clown that is the governor of Michigan is now literally begging for Shipments of chloroquine after banning it just a few days ago. That's what Democrat incompetence looks like. Conveniently, The infections and death rates in Democrat controlled states are skyrocketing while Republican governors are doing a great job in their own states

PDPGuy:
The U.S. death toll is now over 4,700!

As a result of the apparent incompetence of the liberal clowns running New York. They should learn from conservative governors how to rise to the occasion

GalaticHorde:
you like trump speak from both sides of your mouth, my opposition to your rubbish was/is specific! If like tRump you can't backtrack on your apparent stupidity it is not my concern, better yet, go and overdose on chloroquine as prophylaxis after Dr tRump couldn't go wrong, could he?
tRump supporters are a breed the world could do without

As usual, when your lack of knowledge is exposed, you descend into the gutter and start looking for a mud fight. Go and look for another pig to rumble in the mud with you. I'm not one of your kind

CNN is Fake News, they are full of lies.

It turns out the foolish woman who drank fish tank cleaner with her husband was a democrat who has donated thousands of dollars to democrat candidates, some as recent as last month. She also donated to Hillary Clinton in 2016. I just knew it had to be a Democrat, you can't be that stupid and not be a democrat, those two go hand in hand.

"Wanda told the Free Beacon that she and her husband were both Democrats, not Trump supporters. They heard about the potential benefits of chloroquine, an antimalarial drug, in news reports. She decided at the “spur of the moment” to try taking it, but reached for a fish tank cleaner in her pantry that contains chloroquine phosphate, a different and deadly form of the chemical.

"“We weren’t big supporters of [Trump], but we did see that they were using it in China and stuff,” Wanda told the Free Beacon. “And we just made a horrible, tragic mistake,” she said. “It was stupid, and it was horrible, and we should have never done it. But it’s done and now I’ve lost my husband. And my whole life was my husband.”

https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/woman-who-ingested-fish-tank-cleaner-was-prolific-donor-to-democratic-causes/

I'll tell you my opinion, I believe this was murder! This woman deliberately and intentionally killed her husband

wirinet:
SMH
This is from your first link - https://www.france24.com/en/20200320-will-an-old-malaria-drug-help-fight-the-coronavirus



This is the crux of the trial. 25 patients were treated with hydroxychloroquine, after 6 days only 25% ( meaning 6.25 people - I wonder how he could get 25% of 25 people) still had corona virus in their bodies.
Now answer these; what is the incubation period of the virus, and how long does an infection last?
What is the fatality rate of the disease and by how much did the hydroxychloroquine affect the fatality rate?


This is the views of a malaria specialist who has worked on hydroxychloroquine.



When I say you have delusions and comprehension deficit disorder, very few people will disagree with me.

You're the one suffering from delusions and comprehension deficit disorder not me. So a medical doctor runs a test on 25 people with a drug for a disease that has no cure and 25% of them recovered yet you can't see the potential in that drug? And for your information, none of his patients died. You liberals dwell in a bubble of ignorance that amuses me. This was a trial that was widely covered in the media yet you know nothing about it but you will be the first to jump into an argument about chloroquine to spout ignorance all over the place. FYI, as a result of that test, the WHO has approved chloroquine as one of the drugs they are now using for clinical trials in 10 volunteer countries. You must think your liberal media talk heads are smarter than the WHO doctors that are now using same drug on human beings or the FDA that approved it for coronavirus treatment. And you're showing me the opinions of a malaria expert? For goodness sake, what does malaria have to do with a virus? I posted you links of doctors that specialize in fighting viruses who have successfully used this drug in fighting the virus and you're telling me about a malaria expert, Maybe you will next show me the opinion of a gynaecologist or optician. Nonsense!!

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/29/fda-emergency-authorization-anti-malaria-drug-155095

GalaticHorde:
oh now so you're being specific? isn't that rich. Dude! Leave the medical talk for Dr Fauci abeg, and side note, tRump doesn't fart rainbows but it could be argued that his brain is filled with marbles, same argument can also be made for his suppotters
And back to comprehending English, seems you are yet to grasp the term "anecdotal " that i used in my first response to you and no I haven't accepted chloroquine "worked for" corona virus patients because unknown to you my standards for worked for is miles apart and more specific than yours which you prefixed with "some"

It's your own brain that is filled with marbles. I am not being specific, Trump has never said anything remotely resembling chloroquine being an across board or a stand alone drug. And you seem to be afflicted by some kind of delusion of grandeur, who the hell needs your acceptance of chloroquine or not? You're telling me about your standards for accepting as if it is of any consequence or even relevant in anyway . The FDA has already approved it and Chloroquine is already been used to good effect in The US and many other countries to battle the virus. Who gives a damn what you think or don't think about it

budaatum:
All you suggest as evidence of the efficacy of chloroquine to treat convid-19 is at best "anecdotal" as it does not stand up to the rigour of clinical trials. So far, "it may or may not work", and unless you're trialing it no doctor should prescribe it.

Lol, you've been listening to too much liberal propaganda. Who says no doctor can prescribe chloroquine? What nonsense!! So you don't know the clinical trials been conducted in New York is actually prescribing the drug to actual human beings? The trials the WHO is conducting is also actual human beings been prescribed the drug. Chloroquine has long been approved for human use and if a doctor knows that it is effective to cure his patient, he is absolutely free to use it. When you listen to all these quack liberal propagandists being paraded by the fake news media, you end becoming misinformed.

budaatum:
I don't know what side buzz is on, still

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/new-government-study-of-chloroquine-after-trump-comments

Is there any resemblance between what you posted and what you're supposed to be responding to? Someone said Trump said that Chloroquine is an across board, effective stand alone drug, I asked him to produce evidence and you're Posting something that doesn't even remotely resemble what he is claiming. Trump has always talked about the potential of chloroquine to cure the virus and he has been proven right on that by many cases where it has successfully been used but at no time did Trump say it is an across board drug or that it works for everyone neither has he ever said that it is a stand alone drug. All that stupidity is picked up from listening to fake news.

wirinet:
Most Trump supporters are suffering from delusion. Some like the person you responded to has hallucinations and alternative reality added to his delusion. I don't know how one can read any of the links, he provided and reach a conclusion that chloroquine was tested, recommended or prescribed by any medical professional.

One has to be a Stark illiterate not to reach that conclusion. How can you not when you're seeing testimonies of doctors who have tested, prescribed it and are recommending it? You're even reading the testimonies of the actual patients who were treated with it and you're here talking nonsense. If anyone is delusional here, it is you.

fineboynl:
.irabor is an Edo name oh. is this isolation really that bad in Edo?
my people are there oh.

.done jazzy use him hand find trouble. watch how the Twitter handle invaded by hungry Nigerians

Edo name doesn't mean he lives in Edo state, he could be an Edo man living in Lagos