TenQ:

1. Each of the 7 Qirats may be valid, however 6 of them were erased and only one was left. Is this not editing?
2. Did Jibril not reveal 7 Qirats? Did he make a mistake?
3. What does this phrase mean:
Sahih al-Bukhari 4984
..."In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit (Al-Ansari) regarding any dialectic Arabic utterance of the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, for the Qur'an was revealed in this dialect." So they did it.
4. Did Allah not command that the Quran be recited in 7 dialects, who instructed that one is okay?
Sahih Muslim 821a
Ubayy b. Ka'b reported that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was near the tank of Banu Ghifar that Gabriel came to him and said:
Allah has commanded you to recite to your people the Qur'an in one dialect. Upon this he said: I ask from Allah pardon and forgiveness. My people are not capable of doing it. He then came for the second time and said: Allah has commanded you that you should recite the Qur'an to your people in two dialects. Upon this he (the Holy prophet) again said: I seek pardon and forgiveness from Allah, my people would not be able to do so. He (Gabriel) came for the third time and said: Allah has commanded you to recite the Qur'an to your people in three dialects. Upon this he said: I ask pardon and forgiveness from Allah. My people would not be able to do it. He then came to him for the fourth time and said: Allah has commanded you to recite the Qur'an to your people in seven dialects, and in whichever dialect they would recite, they would be right.



Let me ask you four clear simple questions:
1. Let us assume that Uthman wrote just one Qirat of the Quran, is this Qirat the Hafs Quran or the Warsh Quran or the Qalun Quran or the A-Duri Quran or the Khalaf Quran or the several other Qurans?

2. Is this statement untrue by Al-Suyuti
Al-Suyuti, Itqan, part 3, page 72
Said Abu ‘Ubaid:
Ismail b. Ibrahim related to us from Ayyub from Nafi ‘from Ibn ‘Umar (son of Umar) who said—Let none of you say, “I have learned the whole of the Koran,” for how does he know what the whole of it is, when much of it has disappeared? Let him rather say, “I have learned what is extant thereof.”


3. Is this statement untrue by Abu Harb
Sahih Muslim 1050
Abu Harb b. Abu al-Aswad reported on the authority of his father that Abu Musa al-Ash'ari sent for the reciters of Basra. They came to him and they were three hundred in number. They recited the Qur'an and he said:
You are the best among the inhabitants of Basra, for you are the reciters among them. So continue to recite it. (But bear in mind) that your reciting for a long time may not harden your hearts as were hardened the hearts of those before you. We used to recite a surah which resembled in length and severity to (Surah) Bara'at. I have, however, forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember out of it:" If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust." And we used so recite a surah which resembled one of the surahs of Musabbihat, and I have forgotten it, but remember (this much) out of it:" Oh people who believe, why do you say that which you do not practise" (lxi 2.) and" that is recorded in your necks as a witness (against you) and you would be asked about it on the Day of Resurrection" (xvii. 13).

4. Is it untrue that Ibn Abbas the Cousin of your prophet said:
Sahih al-Bukhari 6829
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
`Umar said, "I am afraid that after a long time has passed, people may say, "We do not find the Verses of the Rajam (stoning to death) in the Holy Book," and consequently they may go astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed. Lo! I confirm that the penalty of Rajam be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if he is already married and the crime is proved by witnesses or pregnancy or confession." Sufyan added, "I have memorized this narration in this way." `Umar added, "Surely Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) carried out the penalty of Rajam, and so did we after him."

Is Rajam in your Quran?

Is Muhammad not in the Bible?

Ohyoudidnt:
Just because you rely apparently strictly on hadith writings of men.

Did you not see this?

Sahih al-Bukhari 3810
Narrated Qatada:

Anas said, "The Qur'an was collected in the lifetime of the Prophet (ﷺ) by four (men), all of whom were from the Ansar: Ubai, Mu`adh bin Jabal, Abu Zaid and Zaid bin Thabit." I asked Anas, "Who is Abu Zaid?" He said, "One of my uncles."


Now you see the importance of Zaid in the collation of the Quran.

Go rest your anti Islam thoughts, you can never succeed.

It is not a product of debates and agreements of men in questionable councils with political undertones.



See the defect in your reasoning and questioning.

Did Uthman actually write the Quran or order for a committee to write and standardise in a bid to prevent loss of the actual recitations?

Uthman’s compilation not only preserved the original message of the Quran but also accommodated various Qira’ahs by ensuring that all legitimate readings were included in this unified text. By doing so, Uthman addressed concerns about potential differences in pronunciation, intonation, and wording that had emerged among different communities.

This monumental effort by Uthman helped establish a singular textual authority for Muslims worldwide, ensuring uniformity in recitation while respecting and incorporating the rich diversity of Qira’ah traditions within Islam.

I am disappointed you spent all these hours to further come here to ridicule yourself

I appeal to all my brothers and sisters in Islam to henceforth ignore TENQ and his stupid behaviour and foolish questions.

Maybe then the demons troubling him will give him a rest .

I have told you before. Its good you tried and a tria has convinced you now that I said, with my more than a year experience, he and his colleagues were ant Islam ROBOTICAL PROGRAMED persons whom, without format , deactivate and reprogram with inputs of genuine Islam information; it is wasting of precious time reasoning thinking and argument with them.
Jazakallahu Khayran.

TenQ:

Sometimes I wonder how Islam reduces the IQ of Muslims.
Check which of my questions his writeup did any justice to




I am not contesting your history nor am I against your post except that none of what you have said answers my Questions.

These below are YES or NO Questions:
Did Zaid Zaid bin Thabit edit the Quran of Hafsa?
Were any of the Four Reciters of the Quran attested by Mohammed part of the Commitee of Zaid Zaid bin Thabit?

#The Questions are simple: If Zaid edited the Quran of hafsa, WHY?
#If none of the reciters of Mohammed are part of Zaid's committee, WHY?

Questions:
1. What was wrong with the Quran of Abu Bakr given to Hafsa to warrant editing by Zaid Zaid bin Thabit the second time?
2. There were four reciters of the Quran attested by Mohammed himself, why were none of them consulted in writing the Quran of Abu Bakr and later Uthman but instead Zaid Zaid bin Thabit was commissioned for the job?
3. Do you now agree that the first and second edition of the Arabic Quran were different?

School: College of Christianization of Islam.
Nairaland Study Centre.
Provost: Islamic Profoolsor TenQ.
Course Code: Anti Quran Study AQS 100%
Course Title: BIBLICATION OF QUR'AN
Entry Behavior: Roboticalized Reasoning.
Objectives: At the end of the lesson, students
must have been thoroughly
brainwashed that:
1. Quran was faulty like Bible.
2. At least there were two versions
of Quran.
3. There are four reciters of Quran
according to Muhammad.
Studying Materials : Genuine anti Islam webs
Christianized Quran and
Hadith.
Methodology: Fallacious, fictitious, falsified
fabricated, misrepresented and
misinterpreted elucidation.
Presentation: Repetition of refutation of
irrefutablility of Qur'an.
Evaluation: The teacher will ask the students:
1. Was Quran not faulty like Bible?
2. How many versions of Quran?
3. Was there no difference between
first and second versions?

AFTER THE CLASS A CURIOUS STUDENT LIKE GASKIYAMAGANA WILL ASK THE TEACHER:
1 HOW CAN I GET VERSIONS OF THE QURAN AS WE HAVE VERSIONS OF BIBLE?
2. WHY 2 VERSIONS OF QUR'AN NOT TENS OF VERSION OF BIBLE?
3. WHY SO MUCH IS WRITTEN AND CONFIRMED ABOUT BIBLE'S FAULTS?

cjudy:

Do you mean it? Like 72virgins promised by a rapist to his followers and worshippers? Tell me something

Something you have never been told on the pulpit and Sunday school teacher that 72virgins have origin in the holy porn Songs of Solomon in the Bible?

cjudy:

In your book directed by a rapist

You mean holy porn Songs of Solomon in the holy Bible?

cjudy:

Fake according to crying terrorist

Wailing Nigeria IsraeliWeed smoker, thank you.

JovicoEbikes:




I had a friend , who worked as the private firm that processed the payment for beneficiaries ... We were in the hotel room, when different people were they were all making fictitious names and emails addresses, I envied him them cos wbwn yahoo boys no get the get money he had ... Bit now dude has gone abroad to lay low till everything blows over .


We keep blaming bad government but we are the people that makes up the government

The blame is is 'squarely and rectangularly ' on government because he did not make death penalty of 'HANG-SHOOTING' death penalty for embezzlement of government funds. You see, TIGHT ON TREE before shooting will not be painful and agonizing like the one I suggested.

cjudy:

72 virgins are waiting for you according to your rapist god

Virgins as described in the holy porn Songs of Solomon in the Bible.

JovicoEbikes:
That ministry na steady cashout ministry

With fake names, data and collusion with banks on fictitious accounts into which money meant for the poor that the ministry stands for, are siphoned.

cjudy:

72 virgins are waiting for you according to your rapist god

In the Quran or holy porn Songs of Solomon in the Bible?

cjudy:

And 99% of their war head were intercepted. .

Fake information from Israeli refugee in Nigeria.

wrongman665:
All muslims are the same. They hate peace.

"Think not that I have come to make peace.....
If you have no sword, sell your cloack and buy one" are quote from Qur'an or bible?

Antiislaam:


See as the context of Quran is turning you to a madman like Muhammad. You never see nothing, we just started with you slaves

You just started demonstrating or justifying that you are trying hard to make Islam looks like your religion that is founded on FICTION ,FALLACY , FALSEHOOD, FABRICATION MISREPRESENTATION AND MISINTERPRETATION of TRUE GOD and prophets especially prophet Isa (asw) ?
Alihamdulillah, there will not be anything you write about Islam that will not fall under the descriptions above. So telling me that you have just started is a joke.

Antiislaam:


Why not ask the authors of Quran the reason for the below verse which you too is turning to be a nuisance like your messenger that was poisoned to death

Another proof that Christians have mentality of "........... MISINTERPRETATION AND MISREPRESENTATION of true God and messengers.....".

cjudy:

No. The one that Your Moham*d promised anyone that will blow himself up

The one that is your holy porn bible l enjoin pass.
You see, and l prescribe it for you to retain, sustained and enjoyed your girlfriend whenever you are together in the church backyard because it is in the holy Bible.

cjudy:

That’s not what I mean, I mean the one your rapist god promised you

Hypocrite! Shameless!!
I referred my porn virgin from your Bible, can you referred yours from Qur'an?

Ohyoudidnt:


Exactly like a broken record this question is repeated even if paraphrased.
Seems the reality of the inconsistency of your trinitarian belief with monotheism pushes you.

Concisely for a repeated time as many have answered you before
The Quran's preservation is rooted in several factors: divine promise, meticulous oral transmission, detailed documentation, and rigorous scholarly efforts. Here are some key points supporting the preservation of the Quran:

1. Divine Promise:
Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian." (Qur'an 15:9)

2. Oral Transmission:
Muslim communities prioritized memorization (hifz) and recitation (tajwid), ensuring accurate oral preservation.

3. Written Documentation:
During the Prophet Muhammad's (peace be upon him) life, portions of the Quran were written on various materials.

4. Compilation under Abu Bakr
After the Prophet's death, to preserve the Quran, Abu Bakr initiated the first collection into a single book, using written and memorized sources, incorporating testimonies from multiple companions.

5. Standardization under Uthman:
Caliph Uthman ibn Affan's era saw the Quran's standardization to a single dialect to prevent confusion as Islam spread.

6. Various Qira'at (Recitations):
These are authentic recitations tracing back to the Prophet, reflecting slight variations in pronunciation and dialectal use.

7. Scholarly Efforts:
Throughout Islamic history, scholars have meticulously documented and authenticated the chains of narration and the textual integrity of the Quran.

The differences in Qira'at, such as Hafs and Warsh, don't imply textual variation but rather highlight the richness of the Quran's oral tradition. Each Qira'ah has an authentic chain of transmission (isnad) and slight variations that are all considered as part of the original revelation.

Islamic scholarship holds that these factors combined have ensured that the Quran remains as it was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), free from alteration.

Good.
Hope this is not wasted efforts as he will reply you will with fallacious, fictitious, falsified, fabricated, misrepresented and misinterpreted Qur'an and Hadith .

cjudy:

Write in pidgin please make we fit understand you. Stop using terrorist language to write here. Which kind English you Dey write so? I can’t even read what you just posted

As Israeli dog in Nairaland, bark louder from now till second coming of Jesus, that Israel is this, Israel is that in warfare; Iran is never a country that today's fake Israel will be a threat to, let alone comfortable with in war.

Iamzik:


Oh so the game just started 😂😂

Your brother's were posting fake YouTube videos last night and rejoicing that tel Aviv has been hit. I guess y'all are waking up to realty now.

Israel is far more experienced than Iran when it comes to war and their weapons are far more sophisticated. In a head to head combat both sides will suffer casualties but from last night people with common sense know that Iran will suffer more loss.

It's been an utterly futile endeavour for Iran so far. You can celebrate your moment of empty "victory" while awaiting the masterstroke from Israel.

All terrorists and their sponsors will have no hiding place

What you refugee Israeli in Nigeria don't know is that without America moral, financial, war technics and UN vetoes for Israel can never be a match to Iran. Ordinary Hamas, five months of everything war of Israel and America resulted to elimination of Hamas?
Once again, it now or never that Iran will set limit for Israel aggression here and there. Mark my words.

Bookhub:
Madam you Yoruba people are not ready to leave Nigeria and may not even leave forever they are more interested in insulting Igbo's on Twitter and nairaland if Nigeria breaks who them go insult no more fun.

When we done with your oyel, we will leave.

Electrochemistry:


They're celebrating futility
Mighty Israel and the art of war!
The sons of a warrior is indeed a warrior.
Not forgetting when Israel were attacked by five Arabian countries and only Israel was about to wipe them off the terrestrial board
Were it not for US restraining them, that year Israel showed her military superiority in the middle east.

God bless Israel
God bless America
God bless Jordan
God bless all NATO member countries
God bless Nigeria
Destruction unto cold blooded Islamic terrorists

Very very high on JesusWeed plus together combine with IsraeliWeed.

Righteousness2:
"
If you know, you know

The Next thing is to [b]crush and cut off the Head of the Snake

Prophetically and Scripturally, this is ISRAEL'S time to crush ALL its Enemies.

According to your researchfool or Americabritilized reasoning.

Iamzik:


You sound very frustrated that not one single life was lost after all your celebration through the night.

Gather all your terrorists together they will all suffer shame and defeat.

Na lie, the game just started. Its now or never for Iran to America and British wings of Israel.

bigsmoke2:
People really need to read. The Israel you people are supporting that assisted in creating terrorist hamas for selfish reasons detest you Christians as much as Muslims infact they spit on Christians. They didn't spare churches in Gaza where your fellow Christians worship. They bombed indiscriminately killing your fellow Christians in their place of worship. This is not about religion even if Jesus PBUH were to be alive now he will need a pass from nethanyahu to move from Bethlehem to Jerusalem. Israel is a safe heaven of pediphlies and sex offenders . Wonder how Jesus would feel about such a country.

Don't mind them. Their hatred for Islam made them useless friends of their enemies.

TemplarLandry:
The Iranians' arms are to short to box with God.
Demonic Ishmaelites.

Christamadol combine with together Colorado.

advanceDNA:


All of them will regret....

All parties always lose in war

You talk sense, but some IsraeliWeed smokers on Nairaland will say something else.

Iamzik:


You are justifying Iran for launching a direct attack on Israel from Iran because Israel attacked Iranian consulate in another country

And my simple question is why did Iran not launch an attack on Washington DC to retaliate the death of soulemani during trump era?

Your yapping about US begging Iran not to retaliate is pure bullshit. Trump never appeased Iran in any way. That was Biden.

You trying to draw an equivalent between attack of an embassy Vs direct attack from one country to the other show your utter lack of understanding of how nations respond to military aggression

Iran is just showing Israel not to attack her identity anywhere.

TruthsFM:
it’s the citizens that will taste the level of poverty when Isreal forces start to retaliate. Besides Isreal and USA forces are heavily prepared for the Iranian war. Hezbollah and its leaders will be captured. It’s just matter of days and weeks.

Thanks for the update ISRAELI NAIRALAND MILITARY PARROT.

FreeStuffsNG:

Hmmm. Let's stop this kind of violent perspectives. Not even US wishes that it escalates into war. Iran is not Palestine and it's far away from Israel whereas Iran's proxies surround Israel.

People living inside Israel are not safe and have been in panic till this moment. If you have a relative in Isreal, you will never wish that this escalates.

Don't him and others that used to bark Israel is this, Israel is that as if Iran is Hamas.

cjudy:

Next time calm down and read, I know terrorist don’t think with their brain anyway. They only focus on the awaiting virgins

Virgins in the holy porn Songs of Solomon in the Bible.

cjudy:

Ehhh yeah I’m seeing it how Hezbollah is flogging them. Thank you. I’m also enjoying the tears of your commanders enjoying 72virgins right now

72virgins as recorded in the holy porn Songs of Solomon in the Bible.

cjudy:

Now I know you’re a complete terrorist and a kid, so when a drone or missile is launch on your territory, you will stand? You won’t run to take cover even when the Almighty Iron Dome is doing the Lord’s work. Why won’t your terrorist Iran conduct intelligent surveillance and take down and Israeli army or commanders as other countries have be taking down the IRG commanders? Coconut head terrorist. Go and take your share in the 72 virgins that are being prepared for you in paradise

72virgins as recorded in the holy porn Songs of Solomon of the Bible?