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abacus: it's high time for my Pastor to start watching his back oo. This Odumakin guy can be a betrayal of trust.

The same Odumakin who is now the Favorite "truth teller" of some nairalanders has been exposed as a prejudiced and two-faced charlatan who has no problem deceiving the public with double-speak. See for yourself below. This is why him, Fasehun and many of this ethnocentric yoruba leaders who are political failures despise Tinubu. Against their hardcore ethno-jingoistic stance, Tinubu is more liberal and more open to the ethos of promoting merit in a working Nigeria. While Odumakin confessed to deceiving others with his "Pan Nigeria" talk. Obvious he is prejudiced against others too.

Is this not how Adebanjo said recently that the ACN have failed the Yorubas by letting the Speaker position go to the North? These ethnocentric 'throwbacks' have nothing to offer the Yorubas and only envy what the ACN, even if flawed, has achieved. There is a big difference between loving your region and being proactive in seeking its development to harboring prejudice ill-thoughts and ill-will against other ethnic-groups. Look below at dominic Ogbonna exposing him for his double-speak, deception and two-faced nature.


http://www.republicreport.com/e-x-p-o-s-e-d-yes-peter-opara-agree-with-us-on-the-buhari-projects-but-he-is-with-that-mad-boy-republic-report-on-many-yoruba-bashing-yinka-odumakin/

E-x-p-o-s-e-d: Yinka Odumakin Exposed–Reports
20 AUGUST 2011 WRITTEN BY REPUBLIC REPORT NEW YORK 8 COMMENTS

New York [RR] ABUJA—Bombshell revelations reaching us show that so-called CPC-Spokesman to General Mohammadu Buhari, Yinka Odumakin hit the wrong button that triggered all his private communication with OPC-members that unexpectedly hit public domain Saturday August 20, 2011 at 7:35Am, RepublicReport sources revealed.

Curiously in the said communication to one “Gen Afis” Mr. Odumakin remarked:

[PHOTO: "Untutored" CPC Spokesman Yinka Odumakin exposed, again]



“Gen Afis: Thanks for making this private.Alajobi will not shame you in life. Engr Fashakin: I think we should never lose sight of our internal solidarity as Yoruba people at all times even when political correctness dictate pan-Nigerian outlook.

Mr. Yinka Odumakin added: “Yes, Peter Opara agrees with us on the Buhari projects but he is with that mad boy (Republic Report, I don’t even know his name) on many Yoruba bashing.

“I have come to basic conclusions about most Igbo. Please my brothers, let’s put behind us and ensure we don’t create opportunities for needless frictions.
“E se o”, Yinka Odumakin.

For record, It must recalled that Mr. Yinka Odumakin was labeled “An untutored Spokesman” of CPC-Buhari Party project by ThisDay Publisher, Nduka Obaiegbena, for threatening legal action against ThisDay because ThisDay opinion polls gave Mr. Goodluck Jonathan 63.5% as against Buhari’s 23.5% in the heat toward the April 16, 2011 presidential polls.

Commentary by Mr. Dominic Ogbonna said: “Woow, the wonders of technology!!! You hit the wrong REPLY button, or you become inattentive for a second, and all of a sudden, your true colors and real thoughts are exposed in broad daylight!!Fellow citizens, it is simply AMAZING what people say when they think they are writing in PRIVATE!! It is amazing what righteous people do when nobody is looking! So even Yinka Odumakin, our own super-patriot and National Messiah, does not actually have a pan-Nigeria outlook? So all those nice nice nationalist-sentiments were merely for show and “political correctness”??

“And he has come to “basic conclusions” about most Igbo? And that boy Peter Opara is merely to be used for the “Buhari projects’? Chei, my people, the wind has blown, and the fowl has unveiled his own nyash! Oga Yinka Odumakin, I carry God beg you, take am easy ooo! He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day”.

ShehuAba: The truth and the fact is that YINKA ODUMAKIN has a point but with wrong instances. No ONE can claim that our politicians aren't corrupt even though most of us don't have facts to back that up.
As regards the issue of roads constructed for 1 billion, all i have to say is that value for roads vary for different reasons. Location is also a factor, As U can't compare prices of same type of Mansion built in Abuja and Lagos together because of some factors likewise there can't be a general price for roads depending on what would be found there. E.G: You can't compare a road with bridges and pedestrian bridges cum street lights with the one that has none of these.
BOTTOM LINE:
ODUMAKIN if u really want to show us they are corrupt as u claim bring out your proofs or else we go KNACK U AKPAKO

Brilliant..... and even your conclusion is spot on. I am not interested in denying corruption because no Party operates without some degree of corruption. My point is that Nigeria is littered with charlatans who come out with deceitful noise to serve a private agenda. Odumakin should simply use logical and believable examples to validate his accusations.

Throwing around numbers that makes no sense will indicate, to discerning and observant Nigerians, that Odumakin may have a sinister agenda. He cannot just supply preposterous figures to back his claims. If Odumakin considers N1 billion per KM as the indication of corruption, how does he justfiy how this figure appear average for Major/trunk road construction throughout Nigeria with even rates such as N2 billion and above being seen in Akwa ibom?

It is as you conclude. odumakin should show real proof to back his accusations. No one is holding brief for anyone. If I have never joined any thread to call Akpabio a thief over road contracts then it is consistent and in order that I say Odumakin cannot make a case of corruption against the ACN based on what is charged per KM for road construction when he has not supported his allegations with facts. Below, for example, is the road contract for an N14.5 billion 18km dual carriageway in Osun i.e N 0.8 billion or N 800 million per KM.

if I announce that "Aregbesola building 14.5 dual carriageway for N18 billion", what would be the point of anyone calling Aregbesola a "thief" on that revelation alone without them bothering to read the article to note that included, as consideration that raises cost, is the construction of three bridges and a railway underpass as would be seen by anyone who has bothered to read the full article or to obtain a breakdown of cost?

http://www.urhobovanguard.com/2013/07/15/aregbesola-flags-off-n14-57b-east-west-by-pass/

Aregbesola flags off N14.57b East-West by-pass

Osun State Governor, Rauf Aregbesola, at the weekend, flagged off an 18km dual carriage way Osogbo East Bye Pass named after former governor of the defunct Western Region and late Ooni of Ife, Oba Adesoji Aderemi, at the whopping cost of N14.5 billion.

The road project would be the third of its kind flagged off by the current administration as part of effort at transforming the state.

Performing the flagging-off of the road in Osogbo, Aregbesola said that his administration is firmly set on the match at developing the state.

At the well-attended event, the governor said the major pre-occupation of his administration is the improvement of socio-economic, infrastructural development and the well-being of the people.

“This is why in the last 31months, the state government has devoted priority attention to the modernisation of road infrastructure.”

The governor noted that road infrastructure is a crucial element of development effort of his administration to take the state to an enviable height.

The road, according to him, can be referred to as circumferential highway starting from the roundabout along Iwo Road and passes through Ofatedo to Ataoja Grammar School, through Ilesa Road and terminates at Osogbo Stadium roundabout area.

The project, according to the governor, would feature construction of new culverts, three river bridges, concrete side drainage and retaining walls, pavement surface and marking, construction of railway underpass, construction of interchange and provision of street light.

According Aregbesola, bad roads have been a major bane of development efforts in the country which also explains why the roads in the state have suffered years of neglect under the previous governments; hence his administration is investing enormous resources on roads projects in the state.

The governor observed that when considering what is lost as a result of bad road in terms of human lives and valuable material resources, it is better to imagine what the people would stand to gain if and when roads are put in good shape.

He stated that the cost-benefit analysis has been a major driving force behind government’s commitment to modernising road network in the state.

patmaine: out of desperation u now contradict urself. firstly u said it cost about $10million for a kilometer. how come this road now cost #1.3 billion for 2.4 kilometer.
fella u re just too desperate u stopped making sense..


stop venturing into topics u kno nothing Abt.


what Abt d family politics wit wife daughter and in laws

What are you going on about? Where have I said any road must cost $10 million per KM rigidly? Consistently, I have insisted that cost that appear high to us may be justified by construction challenges allied to real issues.

The fact is that a road can cost $10 million per km or far less than that. it could be more also. The important issue to bear in mind is that we cannot, on the face of it, decide what appears reasonable or not in relation to revelation about the per KM cost of a road. only a cost document, similar to a bill of quantities, that specifically identify and quantify costs can clarify issues.

EasternLeopard: [color=#006600] GBAWE can u read this Factual/Truthful comment

He is speaking based on the assumption I am backing the assertion that ACN contract all roads at N1 billion per KM as Odumakin claims. Even you know that this thread has revealed such is not true with real examples. If you say his comment is "factual/truthful" why do you not reveal where I have said the road he mentioned was constructed at N1 billion per KM?

Have I even mentioned such road on this topic or is it that the poster you quote now assumes I am saying all roads cost N1 billion whereas my subtantive point is that it can legitimately be more than that or even less. only detailed documentation of cost can deliver the information we need to make definitive judgement. Simple as that.

[quote author=I no know book]Stop being so childish and so pretentious. You merit every insult heaped on you here because you provoked it. And by the way, you are more insulting than most on nairaland. Have no shame? How could you in all honesty defend Tinubu over the allegations raised by Odumakin? And please, for the umpteenth time, stop using ethnicity as a fodder in your posts. You are always too quick to assume that whoever does not agree with you is a non Yoruba person. It shows how little and shallow minded that you are. I guess Odumakin is not a Yoruba person to you for having the gull to call a spade a spade. If you are so desirous of having people agree with your perspective, try and back it up with cogent argument filled with facts. Look at your shameless effort on Tinubu's behalf, instead of coming up with strong argument in his defense, all you could do was to give us a comparisons between the cost of road building in Nigeria and that of the west, all in attempt to show us that Tinubu is not corrupt. Unfortunately for you, you failed woefully. I still stand by all my previous comments.[/quote]What have you contributed to this topic in the way of informative facts? You are an ALUU thug and I call you and others such appropriately. Now shove off and go to another thread where you can indulge your small-minded, ignorant and lynch mob tendencies. Your user name says it all. Cretin.

Fadelex: Can you please expantiate on Y nothing wil make dat road dat costly or d amount just seem bogus to you... Here are some of the factors considered when quoting for road project
1. Availability of raw materials..
2. Topography of d said area
3. dampness of the area
4. Features of the road
5. length of d road

I'm not saying you are wrong but without analysis you cant prove that d road cannot cost #1billion per km... Thanks

Precisely.

dammytosh: The bolded is fraudulent as I personally did my research back then and nothing will make the type of LEKKI AJAH road cost 1 Billion per KM.

I repeat NOTHING. It was a well researched one.

I hope you fully understand that I am not saying every road must cost N1 billion per KM? I am Merely arguing that such can be validated. Nigeria is a corrupt Nation but I think we need to be careful just shouting "corruption" unthinkingly every time and in relation to every issue.

Even here, I have show examples either side of the N1 billion per km estimate to show this is not the issue to be fixated with. We see Akpabio deploying Julius Berger at N2 billion per KM and also saw Amosun deliver the Ibara-Totori at N0.5 billion per KM. Bottom line is that N1 billion per km can be justified and so can N2 billion per KM also. N0.4 billion can be real cost also but we cannot just insist all roads must cost the same while suggesting a per KM cap we insist is sufficient.

Dislike the PDP as I do, folks will still not see me joining the ignorant name-calling of "thief" against Akpabio or any other PDP administrator because I simply do not have the information to validate or debunk the road contract cost quoted.

@Candybob. You can now see instant validation of my stance regarding the explanation I gave to your post below:

Candybob: I find Gbawes argument interesting but have an issue with his use of abusive abjectives and reference to Aluu, it takes maturity out of the arguments. Nonetheless he still has game.

Look at the response below to see why I qualify some with unsavory tags here. They will never address the issue at hand with facts. Instead they will enter a thread to hurl insult at others unprovoked and when it is not them a post addresses. even more tragic if they are addressing those supporting their argument with relevant facts while they are all about insults and personalized attacks against other forumers merely because they have made up their mind to hate others blindly. Is this not what is responsible for the many ethnocentric 'wars' we see here daily? Now, how do you propose a sensible person will view posters such as the chap below?

[quote author=I no know book]I never knew you were this daft. You deliberately left substance and was chasing shadows in your comment. Odumakin raised some very weighty allegations against ACN and your master Tinubu, and all you could do in their defense was to give us a lecture in comparisons? If I were Tinubu, I will sack you immediately and ask for a refund of all the salaries he has paid you overtime. But honestly, I quite admit that you couldn't have done better, taking into consideration that no one can defend the indefensible. Tinubu is a very greedy criminal masquerading as a progressive, not even since the biblical times of yore have I seen such wanton display of greed as exhibited by this dishonorable man. May God save the SW from his iron grip, amen![/quote]

Fadelex: i dont wanna know whether Gbawe is a paid image-maker of APC but if it's true then kudos to him cuz he's good @ his job... I have a background experience in construction and if odumakin claimed akala did a km @ #50million then when is dat?? Wil there be proper drainage along d road? Wat of streetlights? What is d thickness of base, sub-base and d top layer? Plz its high time we stop all dis newpaper stand and paraga joint arguement here and argue with facts and figures... I'm not a supporter of ACN but i wil speak about my state OSUN, d governor has radically transformed d state in d last 2years... I saw dis not only in city centre but also in rural areas, if he can continue like dat den R.I.P to pdp in osun... ACN might av their own problem but i wil stil choose them over pdp

Thank you!!! That is all I have asked and that is what my real conduct here exemplify. I dislike the PDP yet why do people see me absent on any thread accusing the PDP of corruption over cost of road contract? Because I realize it is an argument I cannot join, not even for the sake of making the PDP look bad, if I am to be true to my conscience and what I appreciate as pertinent fact being someone with an involvement in built environment endeavors.

I cannot lie against anyone deliberately and that is what I may be doing if I speak decisively on what I think a road should cost or should not cost when I am not a project manager for the road with specific and detailed information about cost. Many considerations could make road construction per KM cost to vary drastically and it is incredible anyone, especially a lay person, can just arrogantly state what they feel a road must cost and what a per KM cap must be. Simply ridiculous and something no balanced and objective person should engage in without an argument predicated on facts.

Candybob: your exchange rate is mischievious, why 150 instead of 160.. I cant recall the naira falling below 155 in the last 2yrs, 160 would have been more realistic considering its a govt project!

I find Gbawes argument interesting but have an issue with his use of abusive abjectives and reference to Aluu, it takes maturity out of the arguments. Nonetheless he still has game.



I will now resume my position as an observser in this political fiasco!

It is because some of these guys act like a lynch mob and needlessly throw insults around based on their own prejudice they have no intention of addressing. Note their behavior from thread to thread and you will see why I address them as such. Anyone saying what they do not wish to hear, however factual such is, becomes a target for them to attack. How should such cowardly behavior be categorized? I.e ignore the facts others insist to continue the clannish antics of throwing insults against them rather than address fact argument with factual rebuttal?

EasternLeopard: @GBAWE & BALLABRIGS Nigeria problem is not parties but personalities. They are good people in PDP, bad people in APC and vice versa. If GEJ is a failure, Tinubu is not an alternative. Dont substitute one evil for another.

My guy, this is something I will gladly take you up on elsewhere. For this issue under discussion, the point is that Odumakin is patronizing Nigerians with deception.

It is political mudslinging season and Parties will engage in this with gusto and with ordinary Nigerians caught in the 'crossfire'. Yet, ordinary Nigerians still need to show that they are still able to reason independently than allow themselves 'herded' into AlUU grandstanding with deceitful submission that cannot stand logical scrutiny.

Sophisticated citizens, even if they do not support the ACN, will not allow themselves to be patronized fraudulently by odumakin or the PDP. Simple as that.

ndudan: @Gbawe

it amazes me how you shamelessly continue to defend a thief with all the obvious facts.

Tell me, is Tinubu and the ACN governors any different from the other crooks in PDP.

What has amounted to "defending" anyone here? Or are issues more about people like you wanting others to allow you wallow in ignorance that means you are happy to give a dog a bad name just to hang it? The core point is that Odumakin's simplistic deceit, revolving around his assertion that roads should not cost more than N50 million per KM, is not valid corroboration for his allegation of corruption any more than you insisting that a man is bad because he is wearing black !!!!

For major roads in Nigeria, we even see construction rates awarded by PDP administrator at higher than N2 billion per KM. Even my dislike of the PDP cannot lead me to shout "corruption" immediately simply because the amount does not 'feel right' to me even when I know, as an educated person, that terrain, engineering and related challenges may justify that cost and , in general, vary road building costs significantly !!!

Odumakin should use pertinent and factual example to support his claim. It is as simple as that. He cannot just make populist noise and, because that is all some want to hear, we all unthinkingly accept such to pick up sticks, stones and machete. His motivation has to be questioned when he ignorantly states that per KM road construction rates common throughout Africa, and validated by appropriate cost document, is proof of "corruption". That is the simple point.

EasternLeopard: @GBAWE 1 kilometer = 1000 meters. Athletic sprint distance is 100meters. If it takes 1 bil naira to construct 1 kilometer, mathematically it will take 100 mil naira to construct a 100meters Athletic sprint distance lane. U nid deliverance if u bliv this 2 a true.

Dude, why not stop this show of ignorance? What do you know about road construction? Clearly zero from your ignorant submission.

tai wo: U are either a thief or someone who has never paid for anytin in his life... Ewu N1bn per km? R u ok?

Why are you insulting others based on your own ignorance? Have you not seen example showing Julius Berger charging over N2 billion per KM for road construction in Akwa Ibom? Does that make Akpabio and julius Berger "thieves"? If you wish to be shouting "thief", especially for completed projects, inanely in relation to construction rate Professionals will tell you is validated by cost documents, what do you want to say for the many road contract that have been awarded in the past 14 years by PDP administrators with nada on ground to show for such expense? The Nembe-Brass Road contract was awarded a couple of year ago in Bayelsa state at N42 billion for a road around 20km long. This gives a rate of around N2.1 billion per KM. Today no road. Nada. That is the real stealing right there Odumakin should be talking of and not making deceitful statements he wishes to use to whip up sentiments against his 'enemies'.

Dickson revokes N42bn Nembe-Brass road contract

on May 07, 2012 / in News 12:00 am / Comments


By Samuel Oyadongha
YENAGOA— Bayelsa State governor, Mr. Seriake Dickson, has ordered the revocation of the Nembe-Brass road project worth N42 billion being handled by Moreno Construction Company, citing incompetence and lack of technical capacity as major reasons for the decision.

The governor also terminated the Tombia-Etegwe Road contract, linking the university town of Amassoma and the multi-billion naira Shell Petroleum Development Company SPDC Gbaran-Ubie Gas Gathering Plant to mainland Yenagoa.

The decision to revoke the road projects was taken at the State Executive Council meeting in Yenagoa.

One of the contractors, Moreno, handling the Nembe-Brass Road project had allegedly received N6.8 billion from the state government with nothing tangible on ground to justify the huge sum of money collected.

The other contractor, Enerco, handling the Etegwe-Tombia Road project, was awarded the contract in 2007 as a joint venture between Shell and Bayelsa State Government.

- See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/05/dickson-revokes-n42bn-nembe-brass-road-contract/#sthash.7Ri4ccMO.dpuf

EasternLeopard: @GBAWE So to construct East-West road which will be about 1500km will cost the govt 1.5 trillion naira at the rate of 1billion per kilometer. Abeg which community secondary school or glorified secondary school posing as a university u attended.

This is all you empty barrels know how to do i.e insult others based on your own ignorance and poor knowledge. Are terrain the same, like for like, for cost of roads to be directly comparable always? There are consideration that can vary cost greatly so your simplistic example can only make sense to a simple-minded person.

look at how, as one example, Governor off Bayelsa puts road construction cost issue into perspective to understand that people like you are better off trying to improve your knowledge instead of coming online to talk based on scant and highly inadequate knowledge.

http://mienpamo./2013/06/28/we-are-turning-yenagoa-into-dubai-of-africa-gov-dickson/

So, this is a very special area. The terrain is so difficult. What I spend on one kilometre of road here, as you have seen, you can use it to construct 20 kilometres in other places.

EasternLeopard: [color=#006600] A kilometer is 10 times ur 100meters sprint race. So 1 billion naira per kilometer is stealing

If such is correct, why has the ruling Party not arrested one of its governor for awarding a contract to Julius Berger and why has the PDP not chased Julius Berger out of Nigeria for "stealing"?

I really don't know why some of you will not defer to fact and prefer to say whatever comes to your mind however uninformed such is. Below Akpabio has contracted Berger to build a road at N2.33 billion per KM? Is that stealing" as you simplistically proffer or would an educated person simply attempt to see an appropriate document that breaks down cost before they indict anyone ignorantly of "stealing"?,


http://www.pointblanknews.com/News/os5253.html

Date Published: 07/18/11

Akpabio signs N28 Billion Naira Road Contract





Akwa Ibom State Government on Monday signed a contract of N28 Billion naira for the construction of the Third Ring Road that will traverse the state Capital .

The road contract was signed between the state Governor Chief Godswill Akpabio and Engineer Woltgang Goetsh the Managing Director of Julius Berger Company.

The first phase of the 12kms road of four lanes begins from the Olusegun Obasanjo way, Uyo and terminates at Oron road with a fly over for the first Phase.constructing

rooney07: We have a problem in this country, we take everything hook, line and sinker. We never try to get facts before we crucify people. I guess our educational system is to blame. May God help us in Nigeria

Indeed ..... and this is why Nigerians are currently the perfect tools who are very easy to 'herd' and use for evil. Appeal to the unthinking bigot and prejudiced animal in them and they are ready to dump facts in the bin to pick up machete and sticks. What is the point of convicting anyone of wrongdoing based on outright and senseless lies? It is as if Nigerians revel in the image they portray to the world regarding the extent of their unthinking, prejudiced and clannish ways. What would be better than for some to simply validate their accusation with a relevant document breaking down costs? Why speak based on conjecture?

Much as I despise the PDP, no one has seen me on any thread shouting "corruption" over a PDP delivered road because, unlike Odumakin, I cannot speak ignorantly when I have not see a cost breakdown document. that I personally don't engage in such at all is proof of why I find it amusing others are of the disposition to play judge, jury and executioners based on what is obviously an attempt to mislead them and work up sentiments. People don't understand that this is not an attempt to prevent them viewing the ACN as corrupt. Not at all. People can think what they want. Nonetheless, as educated folks we should at least understand the concept of not using lies to make a case against others.

elebiola: @gbawe

Be defending what is appalling and a national disgrace. You sincerely believe this is assassination of character and mere talk. I just wonder what the future holds when we the future can even stand up for what is right. Irrespective of our party affiliations and tribal interest, lets call a spade a spade. There is massive corruption in the southwest under ACN, not like their is non in PDP in other regions but you need to remove the log of wood in your eye before you remove the spec in that tackle that of others. Can you in your right senses, compare the quality of roads you have mentioned to the ones your people are constructing, the same goes to the PDP administration, they all cant but dont come and open your sleazy mouth that you are any better. How about the imposition claims? Be factual and truthful here,if not for your own sake for the sake of the children you would leave behind. PDP/GEJ; they are corrupt but are you any better,ask yourself and the party you represent the bitter truth.

This is what people like you continue to do. Utter populist rhetoric and garbage so we can all join you as witch hunters and AlUU barbarians. No one is telling you that any Nigerian Party operates without corruption.

Yet, attempting to prove, with lies, that one Party is more corrupt than others is juvenile and irresponsible. It does not even concern people like you that Odumakin has made a factually incorrect and ignorant statement. You have been shown several example that shows rates of N1 billion per KM is common in Nigeria with PDP Governors even contracting at higher than that.

There are also example of contracts in the SW under ACN at lower than that i.e the N1.3 billion contract of the 2.4 KM Ibara-Totori road in Ogun State which works out at N0.54 billion per KM !!!! Is it unreasonable to ask you people to inspect facts instead of reacting blindly to deception? When others who commit to working with fact try and show what is obvious to dispassionate folks, you come out with the populist jargon above that shows you are not even trying to note the point others are making at all !!!! You just want to keep making your ALUU noise while brooking no correction at all. why does Odumakin or you not provide bill of quantities that would statistically and forensically reveal the fraud you insist has been carried out?

Kelvinigho: Y so much biternes,d spokesman only advise apc faithful to be vry careful of tinubu and his greed.pls i wnts 2 coment on d wife as a senator,d sista in law and d son in law in house of rep.dnt u think tinubu is selfish.in as much we needed change in naija it wil neva cum 4rm buhari&tinubu.i think GEJ is stil d bad out 4rm d worst.

No one says Tinubu is a saint but for your own sake you should resist being made a fool of with completely senseless lies from people who have their own non-altruistic agenda. Don't dump your brain in the gutter because someone is saying, with completely inane lies , what you want to hear. Simple enough concept even a child of 6 should grasp.

ballabriggs: Quite funny, I have had to analyse projects in the past and seeing such nonsense makes me want to puke.

What evidences did he apply in reaching the appropriate cost of the project? Akala constructed for N50 million per KM and that is it. That is borne out of complete ignorance. He has just mentioned "KM" which is only one variable in analysing road projects. There are tens of other factors to consider.

To think that any sane mind will take such serious is even more ridiculous.

Dude, this is the problem of Nigeria. I.e the very poor and barely adequate education of Nigerians that, over the years, has decimated the thinking of many Nigerians and rendered them useless to their nation as far as solutions provision is concerned. Combined with their clannish, prejudiced and ethnocentric proclivities, you have the perfect 'tools' in the hands of cynically manipulative politicians and opportunists.

A document, detailing costs, should be delivered here to validate (if possible) Odumakins claim. What would be better than to provide documents showing detailed cost of materials, labour and other pertinent considerations (compensation paid to resettled individuals for example) so that we can make direct comparisons that expose fraud? Shame this forum disgraces Nigerians as a people who are sentimental and clannish rather than measures, enlightened, methodical and deliberate.

HoLEEsinner: There is no comparison between these roads and ones in uk-us, the figures might tally but forget it the quality aint the same, so dont google nonsense for us, we re not fools, if only Tinubu can answer how Gej won SW then APC ll work. Buhari on the other knows he's playing with the devil while Tinubu is playing with is life. Shikena

You have seen real example of Nigerian roads costing more than N1 billion per kilometre and you still write the above? Why can you not simply present an example of a road that validates Odumakin's assertion and show a bill of quantities, or similar cost breakdown documents, to validate how you all want 2+2 to equal 85 by hook or by crook?

ballabriggs: If at all Odumakin said so, he is talking out of complete ignorance.

Firstly, Odumakin is not a Management Accountant, he is not a Valuer, he is not a Project Analyst and so what evidences did he use in valuing the appropriate cost of the contract.

Secondly, what type of road did Akala construct with N50 Million per km. That road must have been made with pal kernel shells and not asphalt.

Thirdly, when you award a construction contract, as the client, there is very little control over the use of resources and cost of the contract. And so a very large part of resource and cost control is the responsibility of the contractor. However, you get benefits which is difficult to quantify from being able to focus on other critical and core policies while your contractor focuses on your project.

Your logical utterances will never make sense to those who are ALUU-like and proud to be so. They will prefer to wallow in ignorance so long as this gives them an excuse to brandish e-sticks and e-machetes. It os Odumakin's incredible ignorance that should be under scrutiny. We should then look at the reasons why he would make such a daft allegation. A dedication to working with facts always marks out those who are sophisticated from those who are just the sort of unthinking 'herded' creatures politicians love to use for the divide-and-conquer suppression of others.

You guys can begin pushing for Odumakin to be given a national honour if you want. It just confirms that some will accept whatever garbage anyone tells them, however ludicrous such is, so long as it indicts those they do not like.

Odumakin has 'jeun jeun' previous form, even as many will not read to discern this, to validate his current inane utterance so I am not surprised at his ignorant and logic-defying N50 million per kilometre nonsense. Nigerian who want to be pawns in the game of compromised rabble-rousers like Odumakin can continue to blind themselves to what is obvious. I.e the real reasons why Odumakin will submit inane and logic-defying nonsense he patronisingly assumes Nigerians to gobble up unthinkingly.


http://saharareporters.com/article/yinka-odumakin-and-his-fellow-travellers-nduka-obaigbena

To Yinka Odumakin And His Fellow Travellers By Nduka Obaigbena
Posted: March 27, 2011 - 14:52
By Nduka Obaigbena

On Wednesday, March 24. 2011 Obaigbena had made a few points to Odumakin which have remained unanswered;

1. That Yinka Odumakin has no clear means of livelihood; he did not respond to that. We need a simple answer to a simple question: Mr. Odumakin, what has been your source of income since you left school; politics? Are you fit for purpose? What experience qualifies you for the job of Spokesman for Candidate Buhari? One then wonders how a man with no experience and a clear means of livelihood will end up as a principal spokesman of a major Presidential candidate;

2. That Nduka Obaigbena has never been an "associate of past and present government officials" as you FALSELY claim, where is your evidence to the contrary? Is your campaign organisation built on lies?

3. That THISDAY Editors and Journalist were paid to conduct the critically acclaimed THISDAY/ IPSOS polls, where is your evidence? Is your campaign organisation built on lies?

4. When you are confronted with unassailable facts, you resort to name calling: "blackmailer"!, "fraud"! "Lack of integrity"! Etc... Etc... Where is your evidence on any shred of your claims on blackmail, fraud or lack of integrity? If you have them bring them on here and now or in court! Is your campaign organisation built on lies?? And for your information, THISDAY South Africa, or its officials had ABSOLUTELY NO iISSUE with the law! The business was conducted in the best possible manner under difficult xenophobic circumstances. When the losses became too much we closed the operations, settled all creditors and reworked our business model. And from the ashes of THISDAY SA we moved on to found the award winning style and culture magazine, ARiSE published from New York, London and South Africa - And ARISE Magazine was recently named top seller in Barnes and Nobles bookshops across the USA!

5. We claim you, Yinka Odumakin came to Obaigbena's Ikoyi, residence to beg for money after bad mouthing Bola Tinubu and co. We have given you the day and time, if you dispute this claim, take us to court, we will prove our claim. So stop blaspheming with the name of God who'll reserve the hottest place in hellfire for liars and pretenders like you!

software man: TO THE SPECIFICS OF ODUMAKIN'S ALLEGATION ON ROADS AS AN ENGINEERS THE ASSERTION IS SO IDIOTIC I DO NOT NOT WHERE TO START FROM.
THE COST OF A KILOMETER OF ROAD DEPEND ON THE SPECIFICATIONS WHICH DETERMINES WHAT THE BILL OF QUANTITY IS. YOU CAN BUILD A A KILOMETER OF ROAD FOR 2 BILLION AND ALSO FOR FAR LESS. JUST LIKE YOU CAN COOK A POT OF SOUP FOR TWO THOUSAND NAIRA OR TWENTY THOUSAND NAIRA.
ODUMAKIN ARGUMENT THAT ONE ROAD COST 45M AND ANOTHER COST ONE BILLION MEANS INFLATION IS ARRANT NONSENSE. FINALLY IF ODUMAKIN IS SURE OF HIS FACTS WHY CANT HE JUST NAME ROADS AND MAKE COMPARISON WITH ROADS OF SAME SPECIFICATION AND BILL OF QUANTITY.

Thank you. With posts like yours, at least we know that we still have some educated critical thinkers as members of this forum even if it does not seem like that most of the time. To be honest, Odumakin just comes across as another ALUU "conductor", like the town chief reputed to have led those savages in the tragic lynching, with this silly utterance. I am sure clever guys like you know what is behind all these inane outbursts from these new "messiahs" out to "save the SW" coincidentally after it is now revealed GEJ plans to use prominent SW voices to crudely divide-and-conquer the region and mire it in the disunity, lack of cohesion, leadership enmity and rancour troubling virtually all regions of Nigeria.

If it is not Odumakin lying, it is Fasehun talking inanities or Adebanjo, only the other day, saying senselessly that the ACN did wrong not supporting a Yoruba to be speaker of the lower house. We must ask what motivated such a ridiculous 'throwback' statement given that the ACN and the SW has actually gone on to prove what all Nigeria needs to understand i.e no region needs to obstinately tie progress to the attainment of federal positions.

Ironically, the SW is doing very well in a time it is supposedly "marginalised" !!! What could represent a greater proof of the argument in favour of true/fiscal federalism than this i.e devolving powers away from the centre and putting it in the hands of those who control the life, health and education of Nigerians? States and regions.

The truth statistically and factually, and I am ready to argue such with anyone based on facts, is that the ACN , even with it's fault, has initiated a model that is delivering progress for the region. Substantially increased IGR is the case for every SW State and we are seeing a scale of infrastructural delivery never witnessed in 8 years under the PDP. Solid plans to interconnect the SW transport-wise are afoot to boost integration, trade and socio-economic development. Real delivered achievements, no sensible person can dispute, and solidly well-though out plans typifies the SW these day in stark contrast to what obtained under the chaotic reign of the PDP.

Why so-called "neutral" Yoruba leaders have now become the 'spokesmen' of the PDP (the plunderers of the SW) and the antagonist of those who, even if not perfect, are factually righting the wrongs of the "nest of killers" will be all too obvious to astute observers.

software man: THE REAL PROBLEM IS THAT LIKE EVERYTHING NIGERIAN WE HAVE BASTARDISED THE ALLEGATION OF CORRUPTION. ALL YOU NEED TO ALLEGE CORRUPTION IS JUST TO MAKE IT. YOU DONT NEED TO SUBSTANTIATE IT. JUST MAKE IT AND IT BECOMES GOSPEL AND A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.
THAT IS WHY WE CAN CALL A MAN A THIEF WHEN HE HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED OR CONVICTED BY ANY COURT OR TRIBUNAL THEN IT MEANS ANYONE AND EVERY ONE IS A POTENENTIAL THIEF. SOMETIMES OUR PRIMITIVE STANDARDS IS ONE MAJOR PROBLEM WE HAVE.

Please tell. In civilised climes, Odumakin would not even attempt to deceive citizens with his ludicrous and shamefully ignorant N50 million per KM claim because such is just patent 1d1ocy.

Yet , because he is dealing with Nigerians, Odumakin is very comfortable pulling an unthinkingly nonsensical figure out of thin air to substantiate his attack against others knowing fully well that unsophisticated and clannish Nigerians will just accept his word as "gospel" exactly as you indicated.

Tragic really. A disgrace to our education system and to our morals. What goes on here daily is also indicative of how many have been swallowed by a level of prejudice and clannishness that has totally affected their ability to reason maturely, effectively, logically and critically.

software man: AS A NEW COMER TO NL THERE IS A VERY INTERESTING PATTERN I HAVE OBSERVED. ANY ONE CAN MAKE AN ALLEGATION: NO MATTER HOW WILD AND ILL-MOTIVE.DEVOID OF FACTS, UNSUBSTANTIATED. INASMUCH AS IT IS AGAINST THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAIN DIVIDES IN THE FORUM, THE OTHER SIDE GOES TO TOWN WITH IT.
WHAT BOTHERS ME IS THE QUALITY OF THE CONTRIBUTION THAT FOLLOWS. MOST TIMES YOU CAN ALMOST PREDICT WHAT IS GOING TO BE WRITTEN.

Thank you !!! I have asked these cretins to subscribe to the ethos we must do facts always and defer to such. Yet they will never acquiesce to such a sensible request that will help us and others behind us evolve adequately so that we get closer to being a nation of politically sophisticated citizens. Instead these cretins, usually fans of GEJ/PDP, prefer running around disgracing Nigeria on the web with illiterate and unthinkingly clannish behaviour.

We do not have to like each other or support the same Party/leaders but what I see non-Nigerians accommodating and working with, unlike what is the reality here, are the established facts that prove informative and definitive to the delivery of clarity.

Have your biases and affiliation but still be able to defer to and be guided by established facts !!! As simple as that!!!! That so many on this forum continue to be emotional, unrepentantly sentimental and openly prejudiced is enough evidence of why we can see the evil of ALUU lynching, that disgraced Nigeria as a jungle hosting blood-thirsty barbarians, in 2013. Same way that lynch mob believed lies against those poor boys and summarily sentenced them to death is how so-called adults come here daily to play out their own ALUU drama via unthinkingly backing ignorant and ludicrous submissions merely because such is uttered against others they dislike.

This is why most leaders use Nigerians rather than respect or fear them. If you are a leader, would you feel threatened into doing the right things by the posters here or would you think you can use plus divide-and-conquer them, whenever you want, to achieve your cynical political agenda? When people act like Monkeys how will perverse and self-serving leaders refrain from throwing them Bananas?

Mods, get this rubbish out of the politics sections ASAP.

All you PDP/GEJ fans are just disgraceful, clannish and small-minded illiterates to be honest. You are seriously dumbing down this forum with how you support inane and logic defying statements merely because such is uttered against others you hate clannishly. You mumus should look at the desperate and self-incriminating statement the m0r0nic PDP made below in their haste to play politics of enmity:

According to the statement, “where is the falsehood in Yinka comparing the N1billion per kilometer of road by the ACN governors under the express directive of Bola Tinubu and the N50 million per the same kilometer ofroad under former Governor Alao Akala in Oyo State for which Yinka dragged the former Oyo Governor to the EFCC?

If the PDP, with the above statement, want to indicate Odumakin has a point, then perhaps they should immediately initiate the arrest of their own Governors who have commission roads built at a cost greater than N1 billion per kilometre such as the examples given below. As I will always say, let us host our affiliations and biases but commit to doing so with facts.

You PDP scallywags and cretins, with market gossip, have turned Nairaland to Jankara market where forum member surely appear as unthinking illiterates to our fellow Africans and the rest of the world. How can so many of you be uniformly 'dense' and so easy to divide-and-conquer plus 'ALUU-nize'? Why can you guys never ever work with facts and reality to make arguments and debates issue-driven and genuinely informative?

Why are you all lovers of tall tales and avid fans of 'mamy water' stories? While the PDP is engaged with making a fool of itself, why does the Party not even move beyond Nigeria to begin pointing ignorant, illiterate and mischief-making fingers at other African Countries where no one has witnessed the N50 million per kilometre rate Odumakin talks of and where N1 billion or more is actually standard rate for high quality major roads across Africa? Perhaps Ghana too has its roads built by Tinubu.


http://www.pointblanknews.com/News/os5253.html

Date Published: 07/18/11

Akpabio signs N28 Billion Naira Road Contract





Akwa Ibom State Government on Monday signed a contract of N28 Billion naira for the construction of the Third Ring Road that will traverse the state Capital .

The road contract was signed between the state Governor Chief Godswill Akpabio and Engineer Woltgang Goetsh the Managing Director of Julius Berger Company.

The first phase of the 12kms road of four lanes begins from the Olusegun Obasanjo way, Uyo and terminates at Oron road with a fly over for the first Phase.constructing

http://www.gbcghana.com/index.php?id=1.783904

President Mills Commissions Tetteh Quarshie-Mallam Road
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H.E. John Evans Atta Mills with former President John Agyekum Kufuor commissioning the project
President John Evans Atta Mills Wednesday afternoon commissioned the Tetteh Quarshie-Mallam Junction extension of the Motorway at Mallam junction in Accra.

The 14 kilometer stretch was constructed at a cost of 173 million dollars out of the 547 million dollars from the Millennium Challenge Corporation of US.

The three lane dual carriageway has been completed in 30 months.

The design of the project included the construction of Two Grade Separation Interchanges, at the Dimples and Mallam Junctions, six Footbridges, 23 Minor Junctions, Bicycle Lanes and two Transport Terminals at Kokroko, near Mallam and Abeka Lapaz.

Gbawes: Ogbeni Gbawe my namesake stop defending the indefensible. You're clutching at straws by harping on about the cost of roads. Let us see you explain the other accusations made by Odumakin. Can you explain why only Tinubu chooses Acn positions or why his family is over represented in government. Tinubu is only interested in what he can do for his family not what he can do for the Yoruba race. Stop this nauseating apology on behalf of your paymaster. You're selling your soul to the devil.



Why is this not on the front page? Is it because Odumakin threw a fatal blow on ACN/APC?

domcarez: I stil ask again, why is this not on the front page? Is it because it doesn't favour APC? ....its so pathetic that journalism in Nigeria has become partisan, if it is something that portrays GEJ in bad light it wud av made front page,...@seun we are observing o...

Who will help you two ignorant illiterates disgrace Nigeria via putting this on the front page? Is it not bad enough South Africans, Cameroonians, Ghanaians, Zimbabweans, Kenyans et al mock your "Giant of Africa " tag daily? Now you want them to add "illiterates of Africa" to the name calling?

You think anyone can tell them a leader bought a Plane for $30 million when Planes "sell for no more than $10,000" and they will blindly accept such unbelievable deception and crude goading to pick up e-sticks and e-machete as you mindless ALUU lowlife-type are doing? No. They will have the adult sense and pragmatism to at least find out, as a beginning, what the stated model of airplane cost in reality before speaking onclusively!!! They will then defer, from then on, to facts revealed so they are not used as pawns in the games leaders play. Political sophistication 101. Yet, not so for you ALUU savages.

Hard to tell if you guys are just 'thick', extremely clannish, cursed or a 'combination'. If you are so desperate to make a case for Odumakin's witch hunt, then support such with facts. Simple. Begin with showing that N50 million per KM is a reasonable road construction cap rate that empirically applies to all roads as Odumakin nonsensically claims. Prove that roads constructed in the SW are delivered, as an anomaly, at a cost not consonant with what is average in Nigeria.

Odumakin fraudulently sought to make average rate of per kilometre road construction rate as N50 million to suit his ignorant witch hunt which only exposes him as unenlightened. I have shown otherwise and now you fools should prove your case with facts. Bring a bill of quantities or similar here to support the idiocy of Odumakin or shut up and get lost.

Omexonomy: All because he assisted gej in campainnig and was not rewarded handsomly.
Kindly remind the man that:-
1.
Ibb gave him a post to hold and he used big vocabulary to legalise ibb's govt
2.
Abacha refuse to recognise him and he used big vocabulary to insult to make abacha's gov illegal.
3.
Now it is gej turn.
Finally.
Must every nonsense hit front page.

Why are you GEJ fans all shameless liars and clannish haters? Once anyone is perceived to be against your messiah, there is simply no lie on earth you will not tell against them. Shame on you.

Wole Soyinka made it crystal clear he backed Ribadu. There are you-tube videos and many archived articles that reveals this easily so I don't know what you wish to gain from this preposterous lie.

http://saharareporters.com/news-page/aljazeera-video-nobel-laureate-wole-soyinka-endorses-ribadu-president

domcarez: Hahaha....@gbawe, i see you are so good at ur job...so Odumakin has suddenly become a pdp dog? So whoever bares his mind objectively is a pdp dog? Am not surprised coz you all lack the guts to tell ur party leaders the truth...continue to languish in ur abject state of political oblivion and obscure ignorance...

Why don't you stop your show of illiteracy? Use facts and prove your case. Why do you think I asked if Odumakin is illiterate? If not a compromised mischief-maker and highly biased mudslinger , where does he get his rate of N50 million per kilometre rate for road construction? 1920 Nigeria?

He says Tinubu is collection N1 billion per km in the SW. Below is the N1.3 billion road contract for the 6-lane 2.4km Ita-Eko-Totori road , now beautifully completed by the China Civil Engineering Construction Corporation (CCECC). Do the math buddy and tell us what the Per KM rate is. Please reply with facts or stop disturbing us here with your ignorance and illiteracy.

Simply show high quality roads being built today for the ludicrous amount Odumakin mentioned. No long thing. I have shown what the rate, supported by real examples, are. Prove your own case with fact and stop the senseless, emotional and perambulating talk that only confirm you are operating with a very small mind.


https://www.nairaland.com/745652/ogun-awards-six-lane-road-contract

By Dimeji Kayode-Adedeji
August 26, 2011 02:13AM

The Ogun State government yesterday signed a contract with China Civil Engineering Construction Corporation (CCECC) for the construction of a six-lane road in Abeokuta, the state capital, in line with its determination to build infrastructure across the state.

The Commissioner for Information and Strategy, Yusuph Olaniyonu, made this known in a statement in Abeokuta Thursday, adding that the road, stretching between Ibara Roundabout and Ita-Eko-Totoro Road in the town, is expected to be completed within eight months.

He said the construction will cost the state government ₦1.3 billion and will consist of six lanes, median with street lights, drainage systems, sidewalk as well as a green belt on either side of the road.

The Ogun State Executive Council had earlier this month approved the construction and rehabilitation of several roads, cutting across the state in line with the governor Ibikunle Amosun's infrastructure development and urban renewal agenda. The governor had expressed his displeasure with the derelict state of road network in the state and promised to repair them.

Speaking at the signing ceremony, the state Commissioner for Works, Lekan Adegbite, and his Permanent Secretary, Musendiq Oni signed the contract on behalf of the state government, while CCECC Project Manager, Cai Junjie and the company coordinator, Hao Fengbin, signed on behalf of CCECC.

Mr Adegbite described the signing ceremony as a milestone in the life of the present administration. "The policy thrust of this administration is to improve on the road infrastructure in the state," he said, adding that the present administration planned to modernise and make adequate provision to ease traffic flow and improve commercial activities in the state.

emiye: Ah, Oga Gbawe, you are using facts and figure to deal with this mobs.

that Akwa ibom road costs almost N2.5billion per kilometre

Even the Lagos-Ibadan Express way will cost roughly N1.4billion per kilometre.

Odumakin is surely "loose-guarding", i guess he has a personal score to settle with tinubu and the ACN

Indeed and this is why the CPC, in the official rebuttal against Odumakin, stated:

As a Party, we are not unaware of the mischief embedded in the reporting that was meant to achieve very politically capricious purposes.

We all know the plans of GEJ that involves destroying an "impenetrable and no go zone" from the inside using money and greedy elements mainly jaded and expired old men with no relevance and nowhere to go for the pension they are seeking. GEJ comes calling, with free cash. Why will they all not suddenly become political 'saints' all out to "save the SW from the evil ACN" never mind many said nothing when the region was a gangster paradise , Adedibu-style, courtesy of the PDP. UPN that was not resurrected when the SW was in its darkest days under the PDP is now the 'savior' under the ACN that, despite its faults, has been delivering projects the PDP flatly said no to because awon boyz have kept all the money States "cannot afford" such projects.

The crude agenda is to compromise many in the SW , Fasehun et al, and then turn these folks into PDP attack dogs against ACN plus ferment general unrest in a region that is regarded generally as electorally cohesive, comparatively peaceful and rancor-free.

From now on, we will read the desperate 'smear campaign' submission even a kid will see is just senseless mudslinging no educated adult should fall for. When Odunakin ridiculously claims all road construction should cost N50 million per KM while he foolishly accuses ACN of operating with rates which are "fraudulent" , even when reality show they are pretty standard and even cheap across Nigeria, what is the motivation behind such shameless slander and deception? Is Odumakin illiterate? All I will say is that we should all, as responsible citizens and hopefully informed and responsible voters, use facts as much as possible to be be in control of our own minds and thinking always.

In these days when power-brokers are seriously endangering the peace of Nigeria, the most useful tool Nigerians have is their power of objective and independent-minded thinking so we do not become 'ALUU tools' in the hands of compromised leaders with their own agenda they have been handsomely rewarded for.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/03/yenagoa-oporoma-ukubie-road-project-hangs-in-a-balance/

Though the project has since been abandoned due to allege lack of funding by the Federal Government, that of the Ogbia-Nembe being handled by NDDC and the Anglo-Dutch oil giant, Shell Petroleum Development Company is ongoing, but at snail speed while, the 42km Nembe-Brass which was awarded at N42bn, though cleared, had been abandoned.

For balance I even throw in the 14 kilometre George Bush highway in Accra, Ghana constructed for $173 million. Can someone do the math and currency conversion to give us a naira billion per KM rate?

http://www.gbcghana.com/index.php?id=1.783904

President Mills Commissions Tetteh Quarshie-Mallam Road
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H.E. John Evans Atta Mills with former President John Agyekum Kufuor commissioning the project
President John Evans Atta Mills Wednesday afternoon commissioned the Tetteh Quarshie-Mallam Junction extension of the Motorway at Mallam junction in Accra.

The 14 kilometer stretch was constructed at a cost of 173 million dollars out of the 547 million dollars from the Millennium Challenge Corporation of US.

The three lane dual carriageway has been completed in 30 months.

The design of the project included the construction of Two Grade Separation Interchanges, at the Dimples and Mallam Junctions, six Footbridges, 23 Minor Junctions, Bicycle Lanes and two Transport Terminals at Kokroko, near Mallam and Abeka Lapaz.