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DTaj: Are you a mind reader? I know that our past experience might have influenced your comment, but let's encourage the Governor for even contemplating this! Not every poltician is a rogue! And this is no PDP- APC matter. Committed politicians exist...Indeed. Even moving beyond politics, this is the sort of help all of us, by the grace of God, may be in a position to render to other Nigerians now or in future. I think, to an extent, things could be much better for the nation if the wealthy were not so mean-spirited, uncharitable and apathetic to the plight of others. |
doncaster: o dear, I use to think that Gbawe is my neighbour here for Eliza country. Gbawe is busted. So you are part of the system that is doing this to your people. God is watching in 3dYes that is me. Any problem? |
doncaster: which means they have the financial power to take care of themselves. Why give scholarship to somebody that can afford it.With all due respect, I think most posters will be aware that post-graduate education for the very small number of highly brilliant students is not about 'affordability' alone. If you make outstanding grades it is perfectly normal, even if unable to afford studying there, to apply to the world's top citadels of education. Once admission is secured, then the prospective student can seek financial assistance which would naturally be more forthcoming because of a secured admission slot. This is what these ambitious students did. Naturally, if Fayemi did not help then they would consider a plan B - whatever that is. |
Nice. Youth unemployment is already a big headache for Nigeria and it is imperative for Governors, throughout Nigeria, to be up and doing to alleviate the problem. Kudos to the Sokoto Governor. |
Ngwakwe: The action of the Governor needs to be encouraged and the category of Scholars he choose is what makes me happy and hopeful.Well-said. This is my opinion too. Your conclusion is apt also. I personally think we can help each other more with a greater degree of transferring resources from individuals/organisations with abundance of it towards those who need financial assistance to make progress. Rich Nigerians should certainly be more charitable for the degree of poverty and deprivation afflicting their fellow Nigerians. |
DanNafada: Absolutely fully agree with you. I may not be from Ekiti but certainly recognise this problem that is now oh so common. If only all the money and time spent on getting people abroad is spent redeveloping the educational sector and providing jobs. If only.You are insulting Nigerian leaders based on your own misunderstanding of what is reported here. These brilliant students gained admission abroad themselves and appealed to Fayemi for help. He has chosen to help some of them. This is commendable as a stand-alone act of philanthropy. I don't see why Fayemi, for a private act of charity, should now be insulted and held responsible for all that is wrong with Nigeria. The point is that those who have the means should be encouraged to do more through charitable actions. No one is excusing the rot in the education sector or denying that we need to work towards hosting world-class institution of learning but those issues are not intrinsically related to this act of philanthropy from Fayemi. |
aieromon: Its so ironic that these people will never come back to Ekiti or Nigeria to give back their services.Times are changing. Some of these guys, with the finest educational training behind them, can actually do great things in a Nation still full of wonderful opportunities and vastly underutilising her potentials. |
Danhumprey: Good one from Gov.Fayemi. And I hope that politics is not involve in this!I back your clamour for the establishment of world class institutions of higher learning that can rival the best in the World but we need to situate issues properly in relation to what is being discussed. No State is able to send students to Oxford, Harvard et al and bypass the strict admission criteria these Universities uses to ensure they remain elite congregation grounds of the finest scholarly minds from all corners of the World. These students, of their own freewill, applied to Harvard, Oxford et al for admission and got it on merit. Fayemi is helping them financially to ensure they achieve their dream. Imagine if the many multimillionaires connected to politics and governance sponsors one or two promising Nigerian students to obtain the finest education available? I personally find this a laudable philanthropic effort that should inspire us all. |
luvmijeje: I'm not impress, he was only playing to gallery.I can understand your cynicism but Fayemi said he chose these students from amongst those who approach him daily. This would mean that there may be many brilliant students who have secured the opportunity to study in some of the finest centres of education in the world who will be unable to take advantage if financial help is not forthcoming. If Fayemi does his little bit and if others help out also , like businessmen and industry bosses, then many more young people would reach their potentials than is currently the case. |
Impressive action from Fayemi. Supporting the leaders of tomorrow. Fayemi Sends Six Students of Ekiti Origin to Study Abroad From Own Purse |
agbameta: I see industrialization moving away from Lagos to deep inside the SW because Lagos state is at it's MAX, the only room they have left is for tourism and finance and corporate administration.I think the way to begin looking at things is to view the SW as a single socio-economic bloc. In theory, if transport link is optimally good then most companies could essentially accept operating from any State in the region. This is why linking all States in the South West effectively, through aggressively upgraded transport infrastructure, is perhaps the utmost priority for the regional integration office. |
A visiting team from the us congress was even in Ogun to witness the current impressive effort towards infrastructural development. Naturally, their positive reports will benefit Ogun State as it will influence potential US investors to seriously consider the State as an investment partner/destination. Honestly, governors need to be up and doing in Nigeria because the world, due to several conditions, is now looking at nations like Nigeria as viable investment destination. Governors working proactively on transport, security, healthcare, tax reform, simplification of land acquisition/registration, reduction of trade/business bureaucracy et al will naturally see their States become more attractive to investors worldwide. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/08/ogun-woos-us-on-investment/ Ogun woos US on investment |
@Ekt Bear. This was what I was looking for. The 2012 comparison statistics for starting businesses in all economies of the world. The average number of days it takes to be up and trading in Nigeria, at 34, is comparatively high even compared to somes of its fellow African Countries. Not sure States have much discretion to reduce bureaucracy appreciably since some components of company registration, such as registration for tax and VAT which takes a few days, are beyond the control of the State. http://www.doingbusiness.org/data/exploretopics/starting-a-business Below are the specific breakdown of the stages involved in registering a business in Ogun State in 2010. Overall, you can see that the hands of States are tied somewhat at certain stages - business registration being one example - but they can make up for this in other areas where Governors have discretion to use incentives, credit assistance and specific policies to attract FDI, investment and Industry to Ogun State. I think Amosun is certainly doing better than most in this regard : http://www.doingbusiness.org/data/exploreeconomies/nigeria/sub/ogun/ |
Some may never wish to give Amosun any credit because of innate bias and sectional affiliations which means they can never praise the effort of any ACN administrator and would even prefer to insinuate Gbenga Daniel is still in charge but the world outside Nairaland is full of balanced adults who simply give credit where due and praise innovative, transformational and driven administrators because progress is what matters. This thread cannot be bogged down by pedantism over one company or the other. I think the substantive point is clear to progress-minded South-Westerners, Nigerians and even cosmopolitan-minded African. Business and trade unites us and transcends borders and affiliation. Let progressive people contribute their input and let us make this thread one for progressive discussion. Abeg, any businessmen here? Property developers? manufacturers? Exporters? Importers? Prospective investors? What is your take on events in Ogun? http://businessnews.com.ng/2012/03/27/amosun-opens-up-ogun-state-for-investment-80-off-land-for-agriculture-other-incentives/ Amosun Opens Up Ogun State for Investment: 80% Off Land for Agriculture, other Incentives |
[quote author=ekt_bear]How long does it typically take for a company to get approved? Ogun can help affairs by streamlining the process..I doubt that all 80 were submitted in the past month.[/quote]How? Federal bureaucracy may mean there is no way to get round the insistence companies are fully investigated to establish requisite capacity in their chosen sector. Business registration is now relatively more straightforward but some things, like obtaining relevant operational/trading licence, may still fall under the purview of the FG. If you can think of anything Ogun State can do better then I am sure the manager of their industry/business one-stop shop would appreciate your constructive input. |
[quote author=Akanbi_edu]Afefe ti fe ........ See fowl yansh LMAO[/quote]Abi OOOO . ![]() I would rather have lunch and an afternoon chat with Insincere9gerian et al because I generally appreciate individuals who passionately stand for something in life and have no qualms or hesitation to show such even if that puts us in opposite camps. With those sort of people, you can probably appreciate it is all about politics and , beyond that, you will likely get on with them in general. Those to be feared and avoided are the slimy folks who crave to be liked and want to be all things to all men. ACN today, PDP tomorrow and "neutral" on Friday. Yoruba today, Fulani tomorrow . Run with the hounds and hunt with the Foxes. That is an issue indicating a general lack of principle and uprightness. Treacherously dangerous folks if you ask me. I have issued Ogbeni Maximilliano a challenge. He should not find it too difficult to rise up to it since he is "more in ACN" and we would expect his utterance to prove such accordingly. Impossible for me to say I respect my father yet my utterances show otherwise when both should match if I am not two-faced and seeking to please my father and his detractors at the same time. |
Maxymilliano: You are just an irreedemable clown! At what point did I lied and what in my initial rejoinder is not right about the misinformations dished out by the commissioner which I refuted and why don't you point it out objectively rather than resorting to ad hominem by tagging me as GEJ apologists to puncture my claims ?Geezer, stop this disgusting show of two-faced sliminess!!! It is nauseating !!! Everyone was, as is correct , condemning the PDP for gross misconduct and gutter lawlessness. Rather than arguing the case on behalf of the PDP on its own merit alone you attempted , as you always do, negatively dragging the ACN into issues and soiling the Party's image, with half-truths, to shore up the PDP by hook or by crook !!! You are the sick individual trying to twist what is glaringly obvious to even a 4 year old child from your own black and white utterance!!! You should stop foaming at the mouth because you are now exposed as a two-faced and unprincipled individual who wants to be all things to all men. Your past posts are here and I will suggest you knock this silly journey on the head and go away before you look more silly than you already do. You take every chance to savage the ACN here and generally support the PDP in any situation where both Parties are in conflict. Now you want to lie you are "more in ACN" ? ![]() Below, you say wrongly that imposition has "always been the way in ACN". Strange thing to say about a Party you claim to support. A bit like saying you love your wife/girlfriend and then picking up a microphone to attack her publicly by saying she is the biggest LovePeddler in the village!!!! Dude, give it up. Be partisan and proud instead of a slimy snake who wants to be all things to all men. Such folks are usually the most disdained, distrusted and disliked ala enemy within. Let us simply end this conversation with one test since I am someone who believes in working with facts and what can be proven. Show some instances where you are arguing the good point of the ACN here or propagating the Party to be the better option. Just show us those posts against many from you that are needlessly negative and malevolent utterances against the Party you are "more into". Do it or stop talking!!!! Unless the meaning of words have changed without my knowledge, I know support for a Party can never mean antagonising, sabotaging and generally bad-mouthing a Party one claims to support !!! I speak up for the ACN, Insincer9gerian et al speak up for the PDP. So simply show where you have defended the ACN or even highlighted anything good about the Party. Do so or accept yourself a deceptive fraudster. https://www.nairaland.com/1350022/bamidele-dares-tinubu-nobody-stop Maximilliano wrote: This dude must be a learner not to know that undemocratic proclivity of Tinubu is legendary and Imposition of candidates have always been the way in ACN, AC, and AD ever since. |
Obiagelli: Interesting, this na archive material, would definitely be useful. Mr dear sister, go and archive it indeed because I suspect Maximilliano has scored an own goal with this one. I have a feeling it won't be long before my brother Maximilliano forgets himself and reverts to default mode to begin ranting about "ACN goons" while reminding us that non-government appointees like Tinubu, Buhari, Ribadu, El Rufai et al are "also corrupt" when someone says his precious GEJ, the mandated President of Nigeria, is running an empire of corruption. |
Maxymilliano: I come here to say things the way I see it, not to impress or earn anybody's trust, whoever is not comfortable with the way I pour out my mind on issues is on his or her own.Please give it a rest and stop acting riled up because your two-faced behaviour is exposed. If you do not lie then I will not show you up. Contribute your point and desist from trying to be all things to all men when your past utterances cannot mask such deceit. You are "calling out" a Party you claim to support with lies and half-truths on behalf of the PDP that has clearly done wrong? The ACN did not write the article you responded to did they? Why then begin attacking the Party because Nigerians from all corners are condemning the PDP for the Rivers impeachment imbroglio? As per your other point, I never joined any noise about Dangote cement , WEMPCO and such nonsense because that is of no interest to me. I am not into pettily focusing on individual entities. I am praising the effort of Amosun because of a first-hand appreciation of the full picture most Nairaland businessmen would understand. What I speak based upon, and what concerns me, is the conducive environment Amosun is deliberately creating for businesses/investors to set up shop in Ogun. I am especially appreciative of his efforts because I am engaged in business in West Africa and can tell you I know from direct experience how frustrating it is to attempt even the simplest things in Nigeria towards business set-up. The truth has to be told. Nigeria is the worst in West Africa, in my opinion, for business set-up and the attainment of success for non-crooked folks. Nigeria has the most bellicosely uncooperative set of people who want inducement for any assistance given - however small or inconsequential - and have constituted this aberrant attitude to be a way of business life to the extent you must take their way or the highway. They will even constitute themselves into an impediment to your success if you refuse to do things their way and insist they do the right thing. Due to this many investors will and do turn away in frustration from Nigeria to embrace other places where they do not have to deal with the same level of obtuse hindrance. You simply cannot fathom how far-reaching Amosun's effort is towards convincing potential investors to embrace Ogun State. It is the very important things him and his team pick up on I know, from personal direct experience, will achieve great result. When you meet hindrance obtaining land, encounter headache with business registration and hit a wall of ignorance when you want the smallest information about a specific business enquiry then it will not be long before you say f**k this!!!! To that end, I am not here to reduce an important and positive topic to silly arguments about one or two firms and such pedantism. My point is that Amosun's laudable efforts, featuring many innovative incentives and approach, are such that no one should be surprised his plans for the aggressive industrialization of the State is achieved. He, unlike other administrators, is moving beyond lip service and proactively tackling bottlenecks and problems businessmen and investors would have collated in a list of problems they face. This is not politics. I am telling you fact. Good leaders have always traditionally focused on providing incentives that attract investors and FDI. Under Amosun, the plan is cohesive, well-laid out, comprehensive and delivering positive results. |
It is called 'Incentivising' FDI , industry siting and business investors. Very common practice worldwide. http://www.businessdayonline.com/NG/index.php/news/111-politics/35021-ogun-woos-investors-with-easy-land-acquisition Ogun woos investors with easy land acquisition |
segxes23: Why nt consider another geo-political zone since two is located in the SW,I mean Lagos and Ekiti.What would be the issues you would look at if a Nigerian profit-seeking firm looking to operate in Ghana, Cameroon or Namibia? Would you first be seeking to please the geo-political considerations on ground in those Countries or seeking to make decisions based on what is best for your business and optimises its ability to function as a profit-making venture? |
dolphinife: You must be suffering from diarrhea of the brain and tuberculosis. Reading all your comments so far, you are not making any educational sense neither are you making your parents proud of you, rather, you are just rigmarolling unnecessarily, crying more than the bereaved. The moment you start mentioning someone's parent, dats when I know you have lost it.Thank you. We cannot begin standing logic on its head to please some who do not understand the dynamics of human relations and interaction. First, the electorate, i.e non-neutral folks who defeated apathy to get involved, went to the poll to vote in Amosun as Governor based on the electoral promises he made directly to them to include a clearly enunciated plan to aggressively attract industry and FDI to Ogun State. I think those folks are very much entitled to speak when topics linked to the administration of Ogun State are under discussion - especially when it is about sectors the Governor and his team deliberately planned to improve. |
Maxymilliano: Bros na my name you mention so ?Buddy, be upright and tell the truth always. What people know me for here, even if I can be passionate, is that I don't speak based on lies, I don't put my nose in the affair of others when I am not a stakeholder and I don't slander people casually or say things I cannot prove. You claim, in your own words, to be "more into ACN than PDP" yet you are the same person obsessed with trying to show as default behaviour , with falseness and more than once, that the ACN is also guilty of anything negative the PDP has been indicted of. Come on dude be partisan and proud. Your past utterance will always be here to show your real conducts, leanings and belief. Are you not the the same poster trying to use deception below to malign the ACN till I corrected you? What manner of "more into ACN" leads you to be attempting, to the benefit of the PDP, to malign the ACN by hook or by crook below? Just be partisan and proud and balanced adults folks will respect you for that. Trying to be all things to all men just leaves you as someone no one can trust. I personally like Insincer9gerian and others for such quality because I know where they stand even if we are on opposite sides of the fence. If you won't be partisan and proud , in preference for decietful utterances you assume will make you liked by all, then your past post will show Nairalanders your reality and they can see you and judge for themselves. In life, you cannot please everyone. Be yourself and show who you are proudly. It would have been better to do that than tell us you are "more into ACN" that is the same Party you had labelled "rogue opposition". It is "the camp of the ACN" when it suited your purpose below and today you are "more into ACN". https://www.nairaland.com/1357432/jonathan-rivers-shame Maximilliano wrote: In March 2013, The House of Assembly in Abeokuta, the capital of Ogun was thrown into pandemonium, as 4 ACN members attempted an impeachment proceeding against the speaker, Suraju Adekumbi, also from same ACN for corruption and high handedness. The proceeding degenerated into a free for all with weapons of all sort used freely. The symbol of authority of the house, the mace, was broken. |
[quote author=Akanbi_edu]My brother, wetin we no go hear from these mor'fcking fence-sitters. The good-for-nothing "adetes" will do nothing when things are going bad, will not give credit to whom it is due, and still want others not to give credit. Does it take rocket science to know that investors go to conducive environments, where at least they can project what operations/revenue will look like in the short/long term? Who in his/her right would not notice that SW is becoming more and more stable in this ACN dispensation? Isn't that what investors basically cherish? Under ACN government, we are cleaning up our streets and markets, we are rebuilding our cities, citizens' confidence in government is increasing, investors' confidence is increasing and more importantly, law and order is being restored. Do our neutralists think these things happen by chance?[/quote]Eyan mi, thank you. Amosun has put deliberate plans in place from day one to make Ogun more attractive to investors. There are the tangibles (security, infrastructural development, transport et al) and the non-tangible which are even more important yet not appreciated by many. Issues such as tax incentive, quick and non-frustrating business registration, straightforward acquisition of land, removal of corruption in business set-up processes and the one-stop shop to address the worries and reservation of potential investors, plus other measures, are the real 'deal-makers' swaying the decisions in favour of Ogun . Watch the video below to note Bimbo Ashiru making the specific point that you do not have to know the Governor or 'induce' anyone to obtain land for business use. The importance of such deliberate efforts cannot be overstated given what our Country is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWql1uRFuLA&feature=related Also, look at the proactive effort below, as one of many, and it is clear, however it frustrates and annoy some to face such, that the SW is now benefiting from having competent and inspired leadership doing what should be done but was not in the past. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/06/why-more-companies-are-moving-to-ogun/ Amosun said the state government is about completing the implementation of the Geographic Information System, GIS, with full automation land administration. This, he said, would pave way for the mapping of the entire State, facilitating easier access to land for local and foreign investors. |
[quote author=0mo-nna]I do not like your tone.I have my opinion which may not like but do not talk down at me. I am not interested in the political angle and I do not see how Amosun takes credit for bringing Dangote,M&B or WEPCO.Whether you like it or not people will see things from a different perspective so you must be tolerant. Otherwise in real life people come to blows or here to abusive words.Let us learn how to be more tolerant and courteous.I have my views and my objective here is to air them as a counterbalance to others.I am not trying to change the minds of zealots.Peace[/quote]Buddy, dislike my tone all you want. I did not talk down at you. Merely showed you to respect all contributors here. How dare you talk about "ACN sympathiser" as if it is wrong for those who support the Party to contribute their opinion over a topic concerning the positive results ACN administrators had showed they planned for and that some of us supported them electorally to come in and achieve while the 'neutrals did what they always do i.e nothing? Where is the "politicising" going on? You talk of tolerance, yet are you not the one displaying intolerance with the name-calling? Why not simply contribute your opinion on the topic, like a tolerant and liberal-minded individual, and let others do same? I ask again, do you know the hypocritical antecedent of those trying to deceive you here? This is a political forum and as such you should appreciate and tolerate political Party supporters because they are the agents of change and not 'neutrals', who love the sound of their own voice, but remain disdainful of everyone/everything and never get involved yet love to speak as if change has ever driven itself. Like it or not, Amosun is doing what Gbenga Daniel could not and the electoral political decisions behind all what we are witnessing cannot be wished away by 'neutrals'. It is a part of reality that happened because of "ACN sympathisers". Simply contribute your own neutral opinion and leave it at that. Let those of us who know each other here face each other when we have to. Stay out of it and don't arrogate to yourself the power to say who should talk and who should not. |
[quote author=0mo-nna]I agree that we should not play politics with this.Some of us are champions of progress in the SW and are neutral politically while others are ACN sympathizers.THat is a legitimate right but we must respect each other we all cannot and will not be ACN sympathizers. Amosun has not created a miracle in Ogun in two years.Ogun state is what it is because it is where it is and that is why the British fought the Ijebus over a hundred years ago . We are happy to see progress but if it is politicized then expect opposition. Ogun state has been a leading agricultural state and industrial hub long before Amosun[/quote]Look, do you know the antecedent of those who ask for us not to "politicise" this revelation when no one was doing such in the first place? Is is wrong to show the proactive plans put in place for the industrialization of Ogun State or are you new here not to note that there are many here, like Maximilliano, who are die-hard supporters and apologists of GEJ who simply want to ensure no credit is given to ACN administrators? Be clear about one thing. Much of what Amosun is doing, to include his efforts in areas such as security and infrastructural development plus the one-stop shop for investors, are influencing the choices of destination potential investors are making. Also, what exactly is 'ACN sympathisers' when the progress we are seeing today would not be possible without the people who showed passionate conviction to support the ACN in the belief it is better than the PDP? What exactly are you suggesting? ACN supporters should not speak and "neutral voices" should own the arena over a topic concerning an ACN-led state highlighting the positive results stemming from the deliberate and proactive policies ACN leadership showed that was absent in the past? Are those who have spoken, to direct you into saying what you now do, "neutral" themselves or do their past posts, which I would be happy to show you, reveal they are two-faced, highly partisan mischief-making and blind backers of GEJ/PDP plus automatic antagonists of those they assume to be GEJ's/PDP's political opponents/enemies? How do you want to talk about positive development under ACN leaders while seeking to disenfranchise those who support the Party so "politically neutral" folks alone can talk? Is that not discrimination? Did political neutrality get rid of the PDP? Please don't be goaded into becoming part of deceit because of those who are hardcore supporters of GEJ and only speak here so credit is not given where due to assumed opponents of GEJ and the PDP. You should understand the forum and its character and keep your neutrality to your own contribution instead of going beyond that to be taking on other and attempting to disenfranchise their contribution. ACN sympathiser or not, has anyone contributed lies here in showing the efforts of Amosun? Watch the youtube video below and note Amosun enunciating the deliberate effort of his regime to boost industrialization. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msglw5Hx0ns |
Standing5: I wonder what will make a sane person think FG is the reason industries are pouring to Ogun state when in fact the the FG and its centralized top-down corruption model is the reason Ogun isnt getting enough industries. Take for example the law that allows cornering of any large volume of Power generation by states into our ever decreasing national grid when the FG knows fully well the importance of power in industrialization. Infact the FG is the Number 1 force impeding the growth of state like Ogun state industrially. They are doing this by Forcing more progress minded states to share critical resources with the backward thinking ones.Well-said. I think 14 years of "democracy" has shown serious administrators and analysts that the FG is a deliberate impediments to the progress of serious States and region. This is why the SW is trying to break the shackles of FG retrogression with regional integration and 'liberating' socio-economic policies and pursuits. |
pullyacap: Filthy liar! 'Presidency specifically told them to open shop in ogun state' u said? What happened to him taking them to Bayelsa state? And gave them landYou misunderstand him. He is using sarcasm to mock those who say things that make no sense in the desperation to attach a worthless FG, by hook or by crook, with everything good being seen in Nigeria. Like Standing5 observed, the FG is nothing but an impediment in reality to the progress of serious States. |
Tolexander: am only trying to tell you to be straightforward instead of the hiding behind a finger.Can a 'thief' ever be straightforward in conduct? No. A thief will always be shifty and dodgy with no compunction about lying. If the Amosun Govt had not made industrialization a cornerstone of its leadership drive then there may be a window of opportunity for thieves always desperate to steal achievement for a worthless and regressive FG. As it is, there is too much literature which can show even a child that the Amosun government planned for what we are seeing now. http://news2.onlinenigeria.com/news/top-stories/219914-ogun-state-nigeria%E2%80%99s-new-industrial-hub.html Ogun State: Nigeria’s New Industrial Hub |
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