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We have to be careful being over-elaborate in the CIV box. We must try to more more direct while bossing play.

Drogba fails to get it over the wall.

Worrying freekick against us.

manuch: a goal needed b4 half time

Yeah . Badly. Our play deserves it.

iOmoge: Who is watching?

Update pls.

0-0. Naija playing far better and having the better chances. Open play chances has favoured Naija too. That is very important.

Moses, superb play again using the flanks.

CIV players appear very heavy-footed. Good for us.

We simply cannot afford to squander chances like that !!!!!!

What a miss !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote author=Omo_Tier1]Very true.. But I am concerned about their character. If Ivory Coast go one up.. Will they drop their shoulders?[/quote]From events so far, CIV can only score against the run of play. Nigeria is playing with more confidence and poise. You do have a point though. I would rather we did not concede first because that can introduce an unwanted dimension .

I personally think the Nigerian team is fitter. That mighte come into play latter.

segunsd: Victor Moses is already the man of the match

Certainly the most eye-catching player on the pitch.

Fine play Moses again. Emenike was not expecting it.

omodapson: These guys are disappointing us, so they can play this good. impressed with their performance so far.

Well, they have to raise their game or be eliminated.

Great strike Moses. Glad he chose Nigeria over the UK. Very happy he is now settled in the team and an integral member.

ItsModella: I know, right? makes him look so ugly.

Chemical Hair straightening for an African man is the biggest abomination I can think of. Any son of mine that tries that sh1te will be disowned

What is with Drogba and that disgraceful fried hair style he has stuck with for decades?

We have players who can cause CIV problems over 90 minutes. Granted we are the underdogs but a win is very possible.

eGuerrilla: Your analysis is incisive; right on the money.

It is such a shame that cheerleaders stuck in the annals of yesteryear fail to spot the irony in both Abati's recent polemic and Fani-Kayode's subsequent rejoinder

However we slice and dice this one, the sharpening of contradictions we now see cannot simply be reduced to China's encroachment on the African landscape as one commentator opined, or a refusal to acknowledge recurring failures of the past. Rather, it is best seen as the continuation of a broken-narrative advanced by the likes of Thabo Mbeki, which received plenty of international support during the early Clinton years. Yes, I am talking about the need for a renaissance of sorts.

Only folks with an outlook shaped by self-serving, clannish instincts would, on good conscience, dismiss calls for accountability of our most recent oil windfall with a nonchalant wave. If there were ever any doubts about the wind of change engendered by the current economic downturn, thankfully, it is becoming increasingly clear that the rest of the world is not prepared to treat matters bothering on fiscal discipline, with the same levity that currently obtains in Nigeria.

My brother, I can only say it gladdens me that Nigerians like you show up to contribute eloquently and to the point all the time. It makes one harbour hope that all is not lost. Your clarity of vision is truly impressive.

gaquilani: You seem to have missed the point i am trying to make. We should not start acting as if these problems are new. The nations in the G8 have been talking about them (even before the G8 was formed) The Basically, what i am saying is that
1. The G8's complain is not news to us and it will only be solved by Nigerians and not the G8.

I disagree with you with this, "Yuo see, your post illustrates the enigma of what the Nigerian man is today. I.e someone who does not even know what he wants.". Forgive me for suggesting that we WAKE UP and solve the problems ourselves. I do not know what gav you the impression that i was taking about oil or "imperialism".

Apologies if I got you wrong. It is your statement below I was responding to:

should we start dancing because they are claiming to be concerned.

To me I think you are saying , with the use of "claiming", that the West is not really concerned and speak from the desire to actualise some ulterior motive. That is the submission of many here so far. I mention oil because it is the automatic Nigerian argument for how every western Nation comments about us. "They want our oil wealth" is the intellectually lazy excuse we deliver routinely and in ignorance of what the world is becoming. Electric cars will be the mainstay in the next ten years, America needs our oil less and real world dynamics means many Western Nation stand a chance of weaning themselves of the dependence on oil as an energy source in the near future.

It is time we begin talking as if we have the capacity to 'keep up' and be up to speed so we do not lag behind because of the paucity of visionary and progressive thinking, for the future, that has in the past set us up to fall and remain behind others. No doubt the West maintains a relationship where it seeks pecuniary advantages against Africa but the current crop of Western leaders are probably more sincere than those in the past. Their utterances should be inspected by those who have the biggest responsibility to initiate changes for the better i.e us. Me and you.

Flippantly dismissing their criticism as redolent of ulterior motives is very yesterday considering where the world is heading even if we Africans are slowest to read the writings on the wall. Nigeria becomes less important everyday and more a Nation no one reckons with any longer. This is the truth and I have seen it happening fluidly on the ground, in many nations of the world, in the past ten years. Any effort to recapture our lost glory and even better the past must begin with self-critical honesty from all of us and not vainglorious hubris or a misplaced sense of our own importance and worth.

Capnd143: Senselessness at its peak! To all those that think that what G8 is saying is wrong: 'you are bounch of retardeens' . "Look there is nothing wrong with Nigeria that can not be cured with what is good about Nigeria"
you can quote me on that.

Nigeria has ernomous wealth and mineral resources, which is what is good about nigeria; Nigeria has a corupt socio-economic and financial management as pepetrated my our fuc...king leaders.

Now here is the deal use our money to get rid of our leaders, simple! Now to archieve this we must first await the report from those G8(-6) illuminaties, and believe me the report wil definitely implicate our "short-sighted and corrupt" leaders. Boom!!! It will then spark international attention because of the involvement of U.s and U.k bigots! Boom!!! Boom!!! The international community will identify the leaks! Remember a problem identified is a problem half solved! Am the council to the accused! I raise my case your Lordship.

Correct. Let me say it here without any ambivalence whatsoever that serious people, solutions providers and winners in life always deal with their own deficiencies and shortcomings first. They understand that charity begins at home and first look at what they can change about themselves because of the universally simplistic yet ultra-effective concept that it is easier to change yourself first than attempt to change others.

The inability to do that, perhaps in preference for only seeing external 'enemies' and 'malevolent machinations' of others, means Nigeria will never gain the honesty to challenge the misrule of our leaders others, whatever their motivation, correctly highlight.

Symphony007: Seeing all these comment here, i am struck my some people's utter myopism!! Do you actually thing these western nation care about this country? They say it themeselves that "they have no friends, only interest". When olusegun obasanjo was in power and george w. Bush and di*ck cheney were squeezing this country via halliburton, when tony blair and his cronies were making a windfall from this nation they never discussed transparency in nigeria or held a special section on it in the G8 rather he had state visit honours bestowed on him. But now mysteriously it's on the agender on the garthering of the 8 most powerfull nations on earth. Hmmmmmmm...if it smells funny, i ain't eating it.

You don't get it. They can talk because of the abysmal failures of Nigerian leaders. Show me a Police college in the UK, US, France or even South Africa that looks as bad as the pictures that emerged recently in Nigeria. Will those pictures not prompt even the most liberal non-Nigerian to lash out at the corruption and profligacy that leaves such a pivotally important national security agency (the NPF) so starved of funds?

We should start learning to get real in Nigeria to understand charity begins at home. If someone tells you that you smell, why should you be angry with him for having a functional nose? Why not go and take a bath? Will that not shut him up faster than crafting all manners of inane arguments over how he should have ignored your stench?

olas2u: I dont understand what you mean by yesterday,s thinking.Countries are independent and not universal.Can Nigeria ask the same questions On how other countries have done with there own finances.China will never ask that type of question.I think you have a lot of followers who dont have independent mind set.

Whether you wish to accept it or not, and beyond idealism, Nigeria and many African nations engage the world as 'developing Nations' vastly dependent on the help others can offer. That is the reality of things. Policy change and pivotal world events mean that trade/development partners, to include Nations that are destinations of net African migration, will speak up more aggressively about us sorting out our mess at home.

When you say China will never "ask that type of question" I think it is because you do not realise that China, in every facet of its relation with others, chooses to be a passionless 'blank canvas' happy to give you whatever it is you want. I often tell folks that China home to the poorest quality goods is also the Nation producing some of the highest quality luxury goods in the world today. China, for many reasons, is a different animal.

The Chinese can come in and help you ruin your nation with the most unethical of practices if that is what you condone or encourage. For example, there is no British or American person engaged in 'galamsay' (illegal mining for gold) in Ghana as many Chinese citizens are, so steady your roll propagating China as benevolent to Africa in comparison to the West. That is simply not true. China simply does not care one way or the other. Also, we don't have a history with them as we do with the UK and, till today, 10 out of 10 Nigerians will willingly choose to relocate to the UK rather than China if given the choice.

Finally, when you say Nigeria cannot ask questions of others, I must ask you "how else do you want it to be"? The dichotomy and usually one-way dependence between developed and developing Nation , for those who can shun sentiments and emotions, means it cannot be any other way for now. Why, recently, did Britain threaten to withhold financial aid to Nigeria if the NASS continued with its anti-gay stance? Can the UK maintain such a position if we are truly sovereign and never brandished begging bowls in their direction?

gaquilani: Do you think it is their responsibility to solve our problems? Are you trying to say we do not know we have these problems? should we start dancing because they are claiming to be concerned.

Yuo see, your post illustrates the enigma of what the Nigerian man is today. I.e someone who does not even know what he wants. In the past, we criticised Western leaders for abetting African corruption and profligacy instead of condemning it. Now we have a crop of young Western Leaders willing to speak up against corruption and misrule in Africa as we always implored them to do when their conniving predecessors preferred the approach of 'see no evil'. Suddenly, we change tact.

This new development is now "imperialist". It is breaching our sanctity as a "sovereign Nation". It is indicative of a "domination agenda" even when real facts and current state of affairs indicate otherwise. America, for example, has moved on vastly with its shale gas endeavour that will help the nation reduce its demand for Nigerian oil. Not too far in the future, they won't need a drop of oil from us at all. Where does that leave the simplistic argument that the USA relates to us because of its oil needs alone? Some of us should get real and start thinking deeper and more robustly otherwise 'underdogs' is what we will remain if some submissions here are indicative of the Nigerian 'educated class'.

TRUTHTELA: Only a slowpoke will take a British Prime Minister serious. Who created this MESS? Who created the IMBALANCE in the Nigerian system?? Who thought some regions how to INFLATE census figures? Britain, has been home for military rogues that LOOTED the oil wealth. These rogues pay TAXES to the British system. If Cameron, is not a HYPOCRITE, he should go after Nigeria's oil wealth that littered the streets of Britain. The Scotland Yard, FBI, they know where the Nigeria's oil wealth is, they don't need to discuss it in G8, it doesn't worth an agenda, cos, at the end of the meeting, WHAT CAN THEY DO? NOTHING! Are they going to ask FBI, to arrest and prosecute JonaDUNCE, or any LegisLOOTERS, Goverogues and ministers that touch down in their country? No. It's all for the NEWS HEADLINE!!!

An example of how Nigeria's oil wealth is been stolen. When it's time to bid for oil blocks, Cameron and other G8 leaders will put a call through to Aso rock, asking for a BACK DOOR favor on behalf of BP, EXXON-MOBIL, AGIP, GAZPROM, etc, and whichever rogue Nigeria have as president will agree to their demands and his only response will be, " ASK THE CEO, TO COME AND SEE ME, BEFORE THE CEO, DEPARTS HIS COUNTRY, HIS COUNTRIES AMBASSADOR, WILL TELL HIM TO COME WITH HIS CHEQUE BOOK, COS THE PRESIDENT'S PALM WILL BE GREASED. After that, the "PLUNDERING" of the oil wealth begins.

I will not be surprise if Nigerians believed that the G8 countries cares about Nigeria. The same way they care about Nigeria, it's the same way Obasanjo & IBB care about Nigeria. FYI, the STUPIDITY & KLEPTOMANIA of Nigeria rulers benefits them. For all I care, Britain, have an AGENDA they want to force on JONADUNCE, hence, there's need to shake him.

Keep seeing 'Agenda' and keep portraying yourself and your nation as victims. That will surely prevent you from ever acquiring the confidence, vision and self-assuredness to understand that you can buck the trend and hold your own against others or even control their will. Some of us achieve it in the diaspora that is meant to be a place we should fail in given how people like you talk. What is then the excuse of Nigeria controlled by Nigerians?

Look, the notion others "mean us harm" is so yesterday. Today's world is about brave self-determination and the usage of the concept that every Nation must position itself well to win rather than be the lackey of others. No free lunch anywhere geezer. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and square up to those you claim work against your progress. They don't have two heads or two brains and they don't do anything to you that you do not allow. It is sad we Africans still have the mentality to always portray ourselves as victims every time and in relation to every issue. Charity begins at home.

olas2u: Nigeria is an independent state and nobody needs to ask any questions expect Nigerians themselves.its interference.

Sorry, but this is yesterdays thinking. Trade/development partners, perhaps with resources vested in each other, now aggressively tell themselves economic truths. It is the way foreign policy , after some recent crisis, has moved under younger world leaders who have no need for the facetious and deceitful 'diplomacy' past leaders preferred.

Obama was still sternly and threateningly telling Cameron Britain must not pull out of the EU recently despite the UK being a "sovereign Nation" that should be able to independently take decision best for her people. Merkel scolds the UK all the time over their wrong economic approach and the UK condemns the 'boneheaded' policies of "irresponsible" EU member States that leaves fiscally sound Nations burdened.

That sovereign State malaky is becoming a phenomenon of the past when the world was run differently. Shrinking borders and a greater more hasty move towards a global village means the actions of Nations may now have more far reaching consequences for others than was the case in the past. That will not be condoned by anyone - especially the young world leaders of today who believe, more than those before them, to call it as they see it. Now, there is a mood, especially after the credit crunch and other events, that Nations must be held accountable and criticised for wrong policies/profligacy/poor regulation/lax fiscal control et al before such causes far reaching problems everyone will then have to 'repair'.

Ryabcool: Will all of you shut the hell up?! Can any of you dumbheads falsify their claims? What David Cameron said about squandering, is he WRONG? Yes or No! All of you are stuuuupid stuuupid people who evidently do not want betterment of yourselves and your environment. All you feed on is sentiments and utter display of stupidity. Ask yourselves; if Nigeria was on the right path, would these foreigners be saying these things? Good God these stuuuuupid nairaland people have pissed me off this morning.

Thank you. What you identify here is what makes me despair for Nigeria the most. I.e the way the mentality of many is now bastardized to the extent they can look at everything and everyone but never at themselves. Some foolish and clannish twerp above tell us there is a neo-colonialist and imperialistic agenda to this. You think such a person must be a madman because how can he have missed the fact that most leaders of Western Nations, far richer than Nigeria, have a Presidential fleet limited to one or two planes or even non !!! Yet our own President has 10 airplanes in his fleet, by far one of the largest in the world, and still demanding more.

Throughout the world, people are now associating Nigeria with filth, squalor, callousness, extreme poverty and inhuman leadership. Yet we continue to read the first Lady wants a "mission house" that will consume billions or that GEJ wants a banquet hall to gulp billions. Meanwhile all this hideously insensitive profligacy is presented alongside pictures of police colleges that are filth personified and allocated paltry millions. Can Cameron then not talk considering he predicated his campaign on cutting waste and indeed came in to initiate drastic cuts everywhere?

In contrast, our own President, in charge of the one of the most poverty-addled nation on Earth, with no functioning institution, could only come out to say disgustingly "leaner government not possible" after being sworn in despite how our recurrent expenditure, running at over 70%, is universally condemned as 'self-destructive'.

Look, Nigerians are the problem of Nigeria. Wherever our unique mentality and bastardized minds lead us, let us accept it. As you note, many prefer to be sentimental and paranoid rather than to reason like balanced adults. We are in trouble because extended suffering, filthy environments, brutal poverty and many unsavoury events have all contributed to leave a lot of Nigerians mentally damaged to the point they now constitute themselves into the 'enemy within' defending their unforgiving oppressors. As you surmised, what mouth will Cameron, Obama, Gates et al talk with if the Nigerian government under GEJ was delivering?

take dat: Obama is ACN, Cameron CPC and rich Bill Gate, a member of the cabal who are hell bent on embarrassing the good government of GEJ with their imperialist motivations by demanding transparency and accountability from the highly performing GEJ's government. Lol!

Abi. Obama, Cameron and Gates have all conspired with TInubu, El Rufai and Buhari to bring down the most saintly and best performing President Nigeria has ever had. Do we not all see how how GEJ has forsaken food, rejected a fleet of cars and sold his 10 airplane fleet to make money available to improve Nigeria? Yet these wicked men will never stop trying to bring down this god-anointed saint.

Interesting tale. Really does not matter if true or not because we all know what OBJ is capable of to understand that this could well be another account of his penchant for self-serving and unprincipled ambivalence/deceit. If Nigeria ever has a 419 university, then OBJ should be the Senior resident Professor for 'deception 101'.

gunuvi: Sorry Gbawe, what Mr Falana was saying cut across all parties. Ask us in Badagry and we know that ACN has been oppressing us with the judiciary ever since. Its a different ball game for different areas. May God help Nigeria.

Look, some of us have other Nations to take our examples from aside the aberration that is Nigeria. Who is most responsible, throughout the world, for setting precedence and examples if not the ruling party that has a clear majority everywhere and occupies, by far, the most powerful offices in the land - especially pertinent in the case of the judicial arm?

What do you guys think ruling Parties do throughout the world if not deliver policies and direction they swim or sink by?

If we are simply going to turn around and claim everything is a 'general problem' why do we bother voting for a government at all?

When Falana posits that "powerful Nigerians have hijacked justice" who has allowed that if not the Government that controls all influential offices with which to shape our judiciary for the past 14 years yet has created the atmosphere of impunity Falana berates? Let us get real in Nigeria. This is not how others reason elsewhere. How have we gotten to this position where Nigerians are now so dishonest with themselves they cannot even simply admit that this problem can be traced to the ruling Party that has the power, numbers and offices to effect changes yet fails to do so?

Does anyone from the ACN or CPC appoint the AGF or chief justice of Nigeria? What is the majority the PDP enjoys in the upper and lower house that it cannot influence our judiciary for good since 1999? Which Party is the Senate President and deputy Senate President from? Which Party controls the positions of Speaker lower house and deputy speaker?

In civilised Nations where citizens are ambitious and politically sophisticated it will be obvious the State of our judicial system is not a 'general problem'. The military boys set the precedence and then moved on to the PDP to carry on what they begun after shedding their khakis for babarigas.

Given the numerous pertinent powerful office and clear advantages the ruling Party enjoys, go and ask non-Nigerians who they think should shape our judiciary for the better. When we cannot even hold incompetence to account then we are going nowhere as a Nation.

okpara ugo: If i should remind you the topic at hand, i will say that you are derailing this thread. Mods take note. We are talking of corruption and the justice system and you are here talking about ACN. We have ACN lawmakers so talk to them not here.

Btw, was OBJ part of this PDP or not? Who was the last 8yr spending President in Nigeria? Can you catch a kitchen sit and sit down?

Get lost you clannish twerp. Did I mention the ACN or did you? It is obvious I am blaming the ineffectiveness of the ruling Party vis-a-vis it's abysmal and poor effort to promote judicial reform when it has the power and numbers to do so. Anyway, is always obvious what side of any argument your ilk will be on.

If, for example, I am mad at what the ruling Party (the PDP) has made of our Police force, how does that mean the ACN is involved in my stance? Is it not inane how some of you think here? Since you know which Party some support, you must judge all their utterances in relation to that? Because I support the ACN, does that mean I cannot rightly point out what the ruling Party is doing wrong?

Is the NPF not entirely under the jurisdiction of the FG and thus the PDP? Please let us start calling a spade a spade in Nigeria. This devotion to ethnicity, individuals, political Parties et al is displayed too much here. Beyond knowing I support the ACN, why don't you discredit all I level against PDP Presidents specifically their penchant for sabotaging the judiciary via the deployment of crooks as AGF/Minister of justice who then go on to work openly and directly for the most corrupt men and women in the land? Is that a lie? Is that something Nigerians, regardless of ethnic or Party affiliation, should desire or accommodate? I.e one crooked Attorney general of the federation after another chosen by one PDP President after the other? Please you guys should stop this shameful antics of attaching ethnic/Party affiliation to everything. This is about what the ruling Party has the power to do yet is failing to do.