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Elueme: Meeting to devise a means to share our common wealth. I shake my head for these hawks.

Can you use 100% logic and 0% sentiment to prove this assertion you make glibly? We are to believe the many socially responsible politicians who have never soiled themselves with garish materialism are now part of the APC to "share our commonwealth"?

Some of us should start asking ourselves questions that will make us realize we may be very damaged goods in comparison to others, worldwide, who still have the sanity and unity to see what matters the most, for their nation.

be my guest making issues about the few PDP decampees rather than men like Ribadu, the PDP does not have a match for, who used a $15 million bribe against the giver (Ibori) rather than simply pocket it and "share our commonwealth". Ribadu could cynically enrich himself and become a billionaire 'shaking down' corrupt Nigerians like Aondoakaa did and as Adoke Bello is doing.

Can any of you see Femi Falana, certain to be an influential member of the APC,simply dumping everything he has always stood for, including spending time in jail for Nigeria, to fit your ridiculous "they all want to share our wealth" theory that would see him extorting everything that moves like Aondoakaa and Adoke Bello?

It says a lot about the warped innate character and subjugated perception of many Nigerians that some make the APC about folks like Ikimi, that Nigeria has a lot of, and Not men like Ribadu, Fayemi, Fashola, Oshiomhole, Utomi, Falana, Okorocha et al that Nigeria seriously needs more of.

Sambos effort will come to nought. Why? You cannot deny evolution. Nigeria cannot exist in a vacuum. Sambo and co should simply look around at other African Nation to see trends that suggests, without ambiguity, that the days of leaders having open disdain for the populace is numbered.

The days of leaders receiving 100% and giving back 0% in return to the people cannot last much longer. The world , even with nations having vested interests, has no choice but to become more socially responsible as the burgeoning global Village means problems for nations like Nigeria also translates into problem for other nations and the wider world. This is what is leading to a new generation of leaders breaking with convention to intervene directly and criticise our current Government.

Sambo and Co should stop all the sinister machination and embrace the modern notion , taking hold even in Africa, of simply doing right by the people to keep them on your side. That is what politics is about even if we have perverted that notion in Africa and Nigeria in particular.

[quote author=bashy_demy]Why did you just jump into conclusion on a party that is less than a week old. Some people are just so stewpid to just try to tarnish the image of others all for the sage of tribe or little peanut they receive from PDP[/quote]Indeed. I just wish some would have the decency of character and honesty to just declare support for the PDP instead of making statements that defy logic. I would honestly respect anyone who says "I support the PDP and believe it to be a better option" rather than those who come out with all manner of garbage just to "tarnish the image" of the new Party.

First of all, the APC is not "the same as the PDP". The APC hosting a few ex-PDP members does not make that statement true. The fact non of us can deny is that many, many undisputed good guys in Nigeria have united under the APC. Those who have excelled in public and private office are now with the APC. Are we not the same people who say we want Nigeria administered by the most meritoriously talented? Why make it about the few former PDP members and not the many achievers and talented leaders who also members of the APC?

Secondly, how can a reasonable person damn a Party because they have no 'book' in place , circulated to every Nigerian, detailing their plan a few days after formation?

davesndy: Open your eyes Nigeria! These people aren't any different from Pdp they are ttrying to remove from office. For God sake see their profiles. Just power hungry fellows. No talks on how to make the nation work, just how to get to power

Is that the real truth or just your own myopically unfair and dismissive judgement? They have only being a Party for some days yet we hear of free education and other things. Why not give them a chance to harmonise and announce their policies before writing them off pessimistically and lying to validate your negative stance? How sensible is it to conclude that the APC, consisting of so many innately brilliant individuals like Utomi and Fayemi, will not "talk on how to make the Nation work"?

Also,why is it that some of you make the merger about the negative names but you have nothing to say about how , perhaps more so than at any other time in our history, there are far more undisputed Nigerian good guys on the side of the APC than bad? You all say you want merit to drive Nigeria. Now that the best achievers, technocrats, proven public officials and political thinkers are part of this merger you are still muttering the inane "they are no different to the PDP". Will sensible folks pessimistically make this about the few decampees from the PDP or get excited that so many good guys and talented Nigerians have finally united under one platform to challenge a Party that has regressed Nigeria for 14 years?

What do you people really want?

To me, talks here just reveals what many Nigerians have become i.e a people who make everything about the negatives and see everything as destined to fail. We are even prepared to lie to ourselves in the process and deliberately blind ourselves to what is glaringly obvious. It is only bad-belle, clannish and insecere folks, never on the side of the merger to begin with, who will make the APC about the relatively small number of past PDP members rather than the many, many valiant and brilliant Nigerians involved with the APC.

I have to ask, are Nigerians blind? For the one Ikimi there is Ribadu, Utomi, Fayemi, Fashola, Okorocha, Oshiomhole, Fola Adeola, Balarabe Musa etc,etc, etc, etc. Yet you people insist on saying the small number of Ikimis present will define the Party How do Nigerians think? Na curse?

Overall, if you are genuinely objective, Why not strengthen our democracy by waiting for the new Party to be up to speed and then asking them the questions relating to what their plans are instead of ridiculously claiming they are not talking about how to move the nation forward? Some of you should just have the uprightness of character to openly pitch your tent with the PDP instead of uttering cynical statements that makes no sense at all when put to the test of simple logic.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/the-north-igbo-jonathan-and-2015/139276/

APC promises free education, social democracy as it rolls out strategy committees
Premium Times
Published: February 12,2013


The newly formed All Progressives Congress, APC, has said it will provide free education if elected at the federal level.
The party stated this on Tuesday at the end of the meeting of its 10 governors in Abuja.
The 10 governors, drawn from members of the four parties that merged to form the APC, are Rochas Okorocha (Imo), Abiola Ajimobi (Oyo), Tanko Almakura (Nassarawa), Kayode Fayemi (Ekiti), Babatunde Fashola (Lagos), Adams Oshiomhole (Edo), Rauf Aregbesola (Osun), Ibikunle Amosun (Ogun), Ibrahim Geidam (Yobe) and Abdulaziz Yari (Zamfara).
Adressing journalists after the meeting, Mr. Almakura said the priorities of the new party would be agricultural development, job creation, free education, affordable healthcare, infrastructural development, adequate power supply, eradication of poverty, war against corruption, rapid technological advancement and industrialisation.
“We shall pride ourselves as social democrats that are committed to organising our society based on the values of justice for all and individual freedom where everyone’s basic needs are fulfilled,” he said.

miiraaj: Who said Oshiomhole is not part of the merger?

Deluded fools and "spin and spellers" plus the crowd who want to attach ethnic dimension to everything with their notice-my-local-champion antics. Oshiomhole needs the APC not the other way round. As simple as that.

As usual, I see the same set of bigoted fools laughing at their own ignorance here mocking deliberate and focused efforts while introducing ethnicity into everything. They told us yesterday that the ACN is a Yoruba Party and the CPC and ANPP are Northern Parties. Now they have merged as APC, with even a faction of the APGA involved, we are still hearing the bigots shouting illogically and insanely that the APC is a "Yoorobu" Party or that it is an "Aboki" Party. Is it not only die-hard bigots and mad men who will continue to tag a Party with ethnicity when, factually, that Party has members from virtually every corner of Nigeria?

Is it not amazing to see what unthinking hatred can do to the mind? Hateful bigots should keep making this about "aboki" and "Yarobus". One of the worst and most "self-sabotaging" quality any man can possess is the sort of blind hatred that makes him oblivious to what he is doing wrong and renders him totally unwilling to take lessons from others to improve his own situation.

We know Nairaland is the home of hateful bigots who enjoy dancing around making a fool of themselves and celebrating their hollow hatred of others but the world outside this forum is still a place where some , regardless of ethnic affiliation, say the truth and analyse issues properly and pertinently as done below.

So, Messrs Bigots, carry on hating others, laughing at deliberate effort and setting negative examples that only ruin your own younger generation and forge them in the unhelpful and pointless hatred that has blighted your own life and rendered you far less effective than you should be. Some are laying down strategy for the future while the myopic bigot is busy needlessly alienating and antagonising others shouting "aboki" and "Yarobbus" Party without even having the foresight to plan for eventualities and scenarios. Sad. Very sad and very immature.


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The North, Igbo, Jonathan and 2015

12 Feb 2013


Amidst the gathering campaign for a president of Igbo extraction in 2015, Emmanuel Onwe examines the factors that will facilitate or inhibit the realisation of the dream.

A Goodluck Jonathan presidency beyond 2015 will defer a potential Igbo presidency to 2027 or, more realistically, 2039. It’s blatantly clear that President Jonathan will not handover the presidential seal to an Igbo man either in 2015 or 2019. Anyone who entertains the notion that he is thus disposed is in a delusionary state.

Rational people who place stock by reality now accept that the upcoming presidential contest will be a straight battle between the Ijaw nation, superbly and preferentially led by President Jonathan, and the North, led by no one at the moment. The authentic power broker, sitting pretty in the middle, is the West, occasionally rancorous but strategically led by Senator Ahmed Bola Tinubu. But who leads the East in this political coliseum?

President Jonathan will need to sustain the broad coalition that propelled him to victory in 2011 in order to retain the presidency in 2015. This means that he must count on the seven Northern states that he carried in 2011 plus five Western states, five Eastern states to add to his six South-South states to prevail again. The margin for error is razor-thin, given the constitutional requirements. The 19 northern states gave Jonathan over 8.3 million votes or 37.1% of the total votes allocated to him in 2011.

This reality, augmented by demography and a Boko Haram-altered realpolitik, exposes President Jonathan’s electoral indebtedness in degrees. The North is first in line for his reciprocal support - a gesture that, some might argue, carries greater credibility than the intellectually feeble and anti-democratic politics of “zoning” or arbitrary power-concession. The debt he owes to the North must be repaid. And it will take precedence over all others. The only question is: which presidential election cycle – 2015 or 2019?

Thereafter, both the East and the West will have a competing claim to the presidency. And no thoughtful Nigerian will bet on the East prevailing in that competition, given the customary chaos that often defines its politics. So, it could be a man or woman from the West in 2023 or 2027. It will, then, take a national wave of pity to deliver the presidency to the East in 2039 – in the unlikely event that there occurs a national awakening whereby an Igbo cause is recognised as worthy of national sympathy.

Consider a different scenario, decoupled from the PDP’s internal arrangements. If the proposed merger of the main opposition parties were to deliver the presidency to the North with a Vice President from the West in 2015, we might, to all intents and purposes, have a president from the West in 2023. This presents a genuinely viable prospect for 2015. CPC or its successor in title will simply need to repeat its solid performance in the twelve states it won during the 2011 presidential cycle.

A switch of support by ACN from PDP to CPC will give the alliance 20 states, excluding Edo State, which might most unlikely go against Jonathan, but including Ondo State, which will remain dependably progressive. Again, fortune will befall the West because its political leadership is smart and possesses a first class understanding of the dynamics of Nigerian politics. No sane and fair minded Nigerian will begrudge them.

The Igbo scenario is rather more complicated, abetted by the indifference of a fiercely self-reliant but disillusioned population which has grown to see all central governments as fundamentally anti-Igbo and its own leaders as merchants of self-interest. Unlike the West, where there exists a viable and confident opposition to the centre, the new conservative politics of the East is generally pro-Jonathan, with a residual sceptical and progressive elements operating at the fringes. To this extent, therefore, its path to the presidency is extremely circumscribed.
The All Progressives Grand Alliance could be the vehicle that contains the essential ingredients for a cross-Niger coalition. But APGA controls only two states and is currently under the ruinous grip of its own internal contradictions. Within the PDP itself, it’s inconceivable that any candidate who stands against President Jonathan in a contest for the Igbo delegates votes will fare any better than former Vice President Atiku Abubakar in the 2011 presidential primaries - unless there is a radical shift in emphasis to Igbo-specific priorities.

Bowling for Idealism and Democracy
This brings me to a personal declaration: I am entitled to speak on this matter not just because I am a bona fide citizen and a progressive Igbo man, but because I have paid my dues and earned the right to take a stand.

The PDP presidential primaries dawned only 6 months after I took oath of office as a senator representing Ebonyi Central Senatorial District, having spent the previous three and a half years in court battles to claim my mandate – a story for another occasion. I witnessed, from the front-row, how the weeks prior to the primary election exposed the disarray and total absence of a centre of gravity in Igbo politics. To quote the late Bashoroun MKO Abiola, “We are damaged!”

I have, since June 2010, been constant and consistent in defending President Jonathan’s right to contest the presidential election. Not only has our constitution conferred on him that fundamental right, but the personal sacrifice which he was called upon to make was grossly unfair and unjustified.

With what explanation would he return to the Ijaw people? With what logic would he make them see the wisdom in walking away from the presidency - an office to which they may never have another opportunity to lay a claim for at least a generation? And the only lesson he could glean from history was a sobering and dissuasive one: the last man to voluntarily relinquish the top office in Nigeria ended up flirting with poverty and ultimately wound up in jail.

I was therefore resistant to the entrenched PDP tyranny of corralling everyone to play a minor role in the coronation of a candidate. This was not naive. Rather, I took my one step where a million steps needed to be taken. Those who failed, those who were truly naive, were those who, when called to a duty greater than service to self, failed to take their one step. Igbos must recognise that only those who dare to lose greatly can achieve greatly and that power concedes absolutely nothing without a demand.

Planning for Oblivion

[b]The prevailing attraction to readymade power testifies to a growing political culture of self-sabotage, individual greed and the absence of foresight among many in the Igbo community. It’s a clear path to political oblivion.

The West presents a sharp contrast to this attitude. When a Yoruba man had presidential power thrust on him in 1999, Yoruba people, rightly suspicious of the machinations that brought about that state of affairs, contemptuously delivered a crushing defeat to the PDP in the West, coalesced around the Action for Democracy as a deliberate measure in asserting their regional autonomy and projecting a unique vision of their proud place in Nigeria. When they were duped and almost crippled in 2003, they took the hard knock with exemplary courage, returned to the drawing board and rebounded in a most spectacular fashion in 2011.

Thus, Senator Tinubu, the national leader of ACN, emerged as the most significant power broker in this nation since the era of military hegemony. But in order to lead this renaissance, Lagos State paid a particularly heavy political price. The leadership of the West remained resolute, understood the task at hand, and had a winning strategy and foresight. If the West continues in this manner, it will ultimately become the dominant force in Nigerian democratic power play for a generation to come.[/b]

A Fractured North
No northern Muslim presidential candidate of any major political party can ever again count on the 19 northern states as a monolithic electoral route to power. Those days are gone. It’s now clear, thanks in equal measure to a massive shift in generational consciousness and the Boko Haram insurgency that peripheral northern states such as Plateau, Taraba and Benue would almost always consider their positions very carefully. In between these three, Kogi and Kwara states present a required further study and the next presidential election cycle will furnish additional information to reach a more considered conclusion.

Regardless of whatever variables you may wish to take into consideration (including, undoubtedly, rigging, electoral corruption and a disgraceful INEC), the new science of the politics of the North is evolving, and its implications for Nigerian politics are seismic.

Triumph of the Ijaw Nation
Since the execution of Ken Saro-Wiwa on 10 November, 1995, the people of the Niger Delta generally, and the Ijaw nation particularly, have upped their game and have played an absolute blinder in the crucible of Nigerian politics. More than any other minority group in historical and contemporary Nigerian politics, they articulated a coherent case of injustice and exploitation that was as persuasive as it was compelling. Consequently, they have, unequivocally, emerged as the supreme advocates for minority rights.

Admittedly, bullets and bombs might have aided the cause but those were, arguably, the desperate measures that arose from desperate circumstances.

Their demands, be it in connection with resource control or control of the prime political office in the land, have always appeared legitimate and just. Whether their tone was strident or measured, they have had a consistent and unified message. Their plights and their aspirations were heard in foreign capitals across the globe. Occasionally, their causes were even adjudicated at the highest levels of the United States’ judicature, with unprecedented success. Their political operation was so smooth it almost legitimised the violent militant component.

The Ijaw people are unrelenting. Their current sleek, forceful and cacophonous “operation 2015” has driven some senior northern politicians to distraction, some to secret endorsement of the President’s 2015 ambition from far away foreign capitals, and the Igbos to acquiescent silence. Many Nigerians have been utterly astonished by some of the public utterances coming from respected figures from northern Nigeria.

Friendship Forged in Blood
No tribe in Nigeria has a better, albeit incomplete, knowledge of the people of northern Nigeria than do the Igbo tribe. I have travelled extensively and lived nomadically in northern Nigeria and, to my amazement, found Igbo people in their droves in the most unlikely nooks and remotest crannies of the region. Many had become acculturated, even while retaining their fundamental Christian indoctrination. Among the Kanuris of Borno State, I found the most honourable, decent, generous, spiritually devoted and patriotic Nigerians. And this is precisely why the Boko Haram phenomenon, with its roots in this noble warrior land of the Kanem, is utterly bewildering.

The Igbos must not only raise their collective voices but must be at the forefront in condemning the atrocities of Boko Haram; but we must do so without holding the generality of northern Muslims liable for the excesses of a small criminal bunch. Igbos have predictably, suffered immense losses. But, as the violence soars, as the casket counts escalate and a repetition of the ugly history of abandoned property looms, let us remain constant in our covenant with the Lord. This moment calls for the strength of our example. Let us respond by channeling the flow of our kin’s blood to a purpose greater than ourselves, greater than retribution and, certainly, greater than the warped aspirations of those who seek to murder us.

In the broad sweep of history, 2015 would be seen as the year that defined the politics of modern Nigeria and its democracy for the next half century. Those who caution that this is not the appropriate time to discuss the politics of 2015 are being disingenuous. Yes, it is, perhaps, not the time to launch candidacies or open campaign offices, but it sure as hell is the time to engage on the potential dynamics of 2015 – not the apocalyptic year of disintegration but the year for the realisation or strengthening of democratic solidarities and the reciprocity principle.

Let us engage- East and North. If we struggled and failed, history’s verdict would be less than harsh. After all, if President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua had lived, he would right now be in the second year of the second tenure of his presidency which would probably have given way to a James Ibori presidency in 2015. That in turn would have terminated in 2023, leading to another northern presidency all the way to 2031. But the Igbo marginalisation is not, apparently, ordained by God. The fault, Ndigbo, is not in our stars.
*Onwe is the Director of Operations, National and Diaspora, Njiko Igbo

Geniro: unnecessary epistle, the clown even dared to compare Amosun with Akpabio , Chime and co

If Amosun is a performer in your own context then all state governors are performing

Extend your dogged hypocritical stance to cover the FG cos you can't deny certain obvious gains at the federal level.

Olodo. Now we know where you are coming from. Only a grade A m0r0n, clannish twerp and insecure feudalist would conclude I am comparing Amosun with anyone else. No wonder you can lie so easily. You don't do reality and it is obvious you are not very bright and that you have serious comprehension issues. You are not only the clown you call others but a lying b******d lowlife.

A challenge has been thrown to you. Show you and your entire lineage are not omo ales and prove your case. Stand-up guys and men who deserve to be called men don't go around slandering others in a cowardly fashion only to hide behind mischief when challenged. I challenge you again to prove your case or accept you are a cursed omo ale. Very easy to go around making accusation you can't prove because it is what punks and cowards do and we all know the world is full of them. Lying Mumu. I have over 8,000.00 post here. Why are you finding it difficult to prove that I "deplores" certain tactics as you claim? Or is it simply that you are a lying B******d?

"Gains at federal level" ko superb security ni. As if there was not "gains at the federal level" even under Abacha, Shagari and Yar Adua. Effing i11-exposed semi-illiterate. You would be better off trying to improve your level of knowledge instead of coming here to display cowardly conduct courtesy of the anonymity of the net.

Annie Okonkwo comment is more or less a prediction of where we are heading i.e a two main Party Nation as is the case with the UK, USA, et al.

Looking at issues without sentiments, the merger that created the APC also signify that we may be moving beyond the days when there will be 200 mushroom Political Parties everywhere with only 1 (the PDP) having the power, number and resources to monopolise power at the centre.

ACN, CPC and others who want to take on the PDP have now merged . Sooner or later, Pro-PDP factions of the APGA and Labour will have no choice but to coalesce into the PDP or face diminishing political returns. Even at State level, guber and legislative positions may bounce back and forth mainly between the APC and the PDP in future.

There are really no small Parties anymore. CPC has now gained overnight clout joining APC and ACN has become a monolith teaming up with others. the pro-PDP APGA and Labour Party will need this strength too. They will die if they don't move on because the political climate of Nigeria, with the birth of the APC, has changed for good. Within this new climate, the likes of APGA and Labour would have reached the pinnacle of their growth ability. They either join the PDP or APC or have their influential mover-and-shakers poached till they "die".

femmyb: BS why is Obama not called senator Obama.

Because he is currently still President.

Ngwakwe: Rochas Okorocha is the future. A governor with up-to-date vision, passion and courage for Ndigbo. No one tribe can do anything all alone. This is 21st Century where politics of bargain rules.

Thank you. I honestly don't get this uncharitable disposition towards Okorocha all of a sudden when the same people where touting him as President yesterday. Will he get there by alienating and fighting everyone to a standstill as some wants here?

As you surmise, no ethnic group can go it alone and that much is obvious to Okorocha, a detribalised Nigerian, even if some want to remain too feudal and clannish to appreciate that.

Okorocha simply sees the writing on the wall for GEJ and the PDP. We forget the politicians, regardless of the Party they belong to, feel the direction of the political wind first. Why should Okorocha, if an effective politician, back a dying Horse or go down with a sinking ship?

Eko Ile: Wow!!! This is some serious road business.


Omo Ogun, ise ya...

Of course it is. Why else are the 'usual suspects' not here in their negativity? The "only Fashola/Oshiomhole is working" lie they comfort themselves with is now no longer tenable and beginning, more and more, to look like the rantings of hateful losers condemned to never give credit where due.

Geniro: Coming from one who deplores similar tactics to always seek out negatives from the ruling party is quite sad, your hypocrisy is quite alarming.

You have no moral standing to chide snide attacks against Sen Amosun.


@ Thread, Amosun, please pull this off cos it will benefit the state immensely

Another lying charlatan. First of all, it is "deploys" not "deplores" Secondly prove that I "deplores similar tactics". Show I ridicule the laudable efforts of PDP performers here and now or accept you are a lying ******** !!!! Show, even once, where I lie against the PDP. If a man continuously repeats that cancer kills does that mean he is lying simply because some intolerant, immature and biased people are tired of hearing that message? Is the PDP ,after 14 years, a monumental f*ck-up at the centre or not? Simple yes or no?

Show where, even once in my over 8,000 posts, I have ever attempted to discredit the efforts of performers like Chime, Akpabio, Amaechi or any other PDP administrator who is genuinely delivering. Say what you want but I have never and will never be in the group who can never give credit where due. I rate achievers always because I will always, regardless of bias or affiliation, appreciate those who rise above mediocrity to deliver good governance for Nigerians. Believe what you want but I am a winner and achiever in life and that automatically predispose me to appreciating other achievers even if we don't share Party, ethnic or sectional affiliation. You and many others are not even discerning or honest enough to see that my dislike of the PDP is mainly related to their indolent administration of Nigeria at the the centre. Nonetheless, that has never stopped me praising PDP achievers let alone denying them the credit they deserve.

Just prove your case and show , even once, where I have ever attempted to discredit the infrastructural endeavour of any proven performer who is not ACN (whether it Okorocha of APGA, Mimiko of Labour or Akpabio of PDP) and then we can talk. Out of over 8,000.00 posts, that should not be difficult if I am what you claim and if you are not a blatant liar. Otherwise shut up and stop making me out to be what my opinion and writing here suggest I am not. Prove your point I am against all things PDP , including it's performers, or accept you are the hypocrite. I may be against the Party at the federal level and at the centre but which ambitious and exposed Nigerian would not be given the importance of the centre to our national progress?

take dat: I posted yesterday's news, you're talking of some months back. This latest development is due to the panicky and desperation that has gripped the PDP following the merger of opposition parties! As it is now, GEJ is uninterested in performance of the governors but on how he is able to consolidate on his chances for re-election.

Indeed. I have predicted all this scenario already. GEJ will get more desperate with time and begin to seriously push the edge of political morality and decency. Right of "automatic return" regardless of performance? In this day and age? Is this some twisted joke designed to embarrass Nigeria?

What desperate action next? Resurrection of the 7-year single tenure bill GEJ desperately sought to push through immediately after being sworn in despite myriads of far more serious issues facing Nigeria?

pokur: Dude,I am from the SE,Nnewi to be precise.GEJ is not getting up to 60% were the elections to hold today.I just laughed when I read this wishlist of an article.This is what we call 'okwu nkasiobi' my side.PDP was seriously blindsided by the merger,they didn't expect it to come true.Now they are scrambling,trying to play some psychological game on the opposition.

Thank you very much. An honest man. Really rare on this forum. What you have highlighted, shown in bold and red fonts above, happened exactly the same way on this forum too. Many swore on Nairaland that this merger would never ever happen. "Tinubu and Buhari are too different/selfish", All those involved are "strange bedfellows who will never put their differences aside to merge". blah, balh, blah.

Now that the merger has happened they are totally "blindsided". New arguments must be crafted to predict doom for the merger when they had bragged earlier with "100 certainty" the merger would never take off. I am just enjoying events unfolding and seeing how unprincipled many folks are. As I always say, we all have our biases and affiliation but dishonesty should still be rejected.

Olaolufred: PEOPLE DECIEVING PEOPLE.
INSINCERE9GERIAN DECIEVING SINCERE9GERIAN.
CARRY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Indeed. Too many here, even so called educated folks who fancy themselves as 'intelligent, miss the obvious.

Let me spell it out here clearly.

GEJ will never win the PDP ticket democratically. His conduct has been too treacherous for any goodwill to remain towards him from any corner other than that of 'last leg' mercenaries like Tukur and Anenih. He has divided the Party as someone who has no honour and never wishes to abide by any agreement. This is why his candidate was defeated easily in the PDP BOT chairmanship race and they had to lie they were going to "harmonise" positions only for all of us to see bullying antics begin with the court ouster of Oyinlola.

Since democratic and freewill endorsement of GEJ is out, the next option is for Jonathan to use his office dictatorially, plus the wealth of Nigeria, to attempt gaining the ticket. This too will fall flat on its face because many will simply leave the PDP to strengthen the opposition against a very dishonourable, power-drunk man who made pledges, to secure politcal support, he now does not wish to respect.

We should all stop being emotional and childish. Once a man becomes President we all speak as if he is god because that is how our Nation has conditioned us to think. If we look at the reality it will become obvious the PDP is host to a lot of individuals who will take the fight to GEJ at the appropriate time rather than let him orchestrate what will be a very easy defeat of the Party everywhere, i.e a total decimation of what others have worked for, with his selfish and treacherous ambition. It is the same as how Atiku fought OBJ successfully despite being the underdog favoured to lose against the almighty Nigerian presidency.

HNosegbe: Sincere Nigerian or whatever you call yourself, why are you so mischievous?

Where is it stated in the write-up that President Jonathan "plans to crush the APC"? Any sensible person will see that the article was titled 2015: How PDP Plans to Defeat APC. Where did you get your own from?

And who told you the president is going to run? Even if he does, has he been guaranteed the presidential ticket by the PDP? And who told you that Nigerians are so gullible as to play out this "script" as envisioned by the PDP chairman? Do you think the PDP is guaranteed victory by 2015?

Any discerning person who clicks on the link will see that it was a write-up by the PDP chairman Bamanga Tukur outlining the party's strategy for the 2015 elections. Why are you making it look like it was written by GEJ? In short, why did you start this thread?

Knowing how divisive the president has been on this forum, one can only conclude that you DELIBERATELY renamed the article.

[size=14pt]You reek of deceit.[/size]

100% correct. Note he does the same thing below that you have called him out for here. I really despair for Nigeria when so many adults lack sophistication and independent minds to the extent a callous and blatantly crude mischief-maker can 'yank their chain' so easily. As you correctly infer, there is no guarantee at all GEJ will even get the PDP ticket let alone be in a position to "crush" anyone. Anyway, let us leave the kids to 'excite' themselves under the brainwashing of the deceitful Pied Piper i.e insincere9gerian. The reality, when it is upon us, will surprise many.


https://www.nairaland.com/1192741/afcon-cup-glory-acn-slams

Gbawe wrote:

Please spare us your hypocrisy. Why is it only the part that criticise GEJ you "could only take note of" in the entire article? You even deceitfully gave the thread your own incendiary title, not indicative of the main message, because of your style which involves instigating the gullible here against those you perceive threaten your messiah.

Has the entire forum not seen you doing this against Fashola, Buhari, EL Rufai et al? When you tell us ludicrously that you are seeking one project of Fashola, why not do same for Uduaghan's Delta and even GEJ's Bayelsa under his handpicked candidate? ACN are on point with their main message about merit and you should prove their actions on the ground is opposite to what they preach. We all know the Party that deliberately hosts mediocrity everywhere.

maasoap: Sick people make sick nation. The slowpoke who copied the news changed the topic to suit his purpose and dictate direction of the debate. Typical example of Jona's a$$ lickers. What could make a president promise to attend the final only for him to go to London to attend a launch by "ordinary citizen" according to Jona's attack dog? 2015 party ticket is more important than f¥cking AFCON gold.

Thank you. At least someone is independent-minded enough to see what insecure9gerian is doing. Note he is doing precisely the same on the thread below HNosegbe has called him out for. It is an illustration of what this forum is that this Insincer9gerian chap can come here and whip up sentiments easily secure in the knowledge that the cretins and feudalists here only need to be 'prompted' subliminally to get them acting up:

https://www.nairaland.com/1193477/2015-elections-how-president-jonathan

HNosegbe wrote:

Sincere Nigerian or whatever you call yourself, why are you so mischievous?

Where is it stated in the write-up that President Jonathan "plans to crush the APC"? Any sensible person will see that the article was titled 2015: How PDP Plans to Defeat APC. Where did you get your own from?

jigawatts: ONCE A SENATOR, ALWAYS A SENATOR

Yes. Political etiquette.

Yewe2011: from my understanding its a road in Ogun State but it leads into a border town in neighbouring Benin Republic

If some were not predisposed to seeking negatives then they would make the obvious deduction you have made easily. I find this a very irritating habit of Nigerians I don't see in others. I.e mindless pessimism and an innate inability to give credit where due. It is as if many are now mentally damaged by our traumatic Nation to the extent they must not celebrate anything good or be happy at progress. Everyone is busy looking for negatives to highlight even as they swore they wanted roads yesterday.

Idi Amin: Abeg hw does d road constructn affect me in PH here.:/

It does not so you should have ignored the thread and let stakeholders talk.

[quote author=my_moniker]100km road no be beans abeg...he try[/quote]Surprised you are the only one who has noticed this. Great effort from the Governor.

Sincere 9gerian: @Gbawe..,I'm glad you said the ACN criticism is "distasteful". That is the koko of the matter. I found the ACN needless criticism nauseating, which is not far from "distasteful"

Yes. I believe it distasteful from a personal viewpoint. Yet I concede politics is not about 'niceness' and that they are within their right to level this criticism against GEJ. If they have not lied, then it is their prerogative to draw attention to GEJ's travel itinerary that may suggest a dubious sense of prioritisation.

Sincere 9gerian: I'm sure you read the speculative report by Sahara Reporters over the weekend that the president had an intestinal ailment (amoebic colitis)? What if that report was true? What if that was what prevented the president from travelling to South Africa? Didn't the president send Senate president, David Mark and co? Cant the ACN praise the Super Eagles without looking for loopholes for cheap political capital?

Anyway, I'm just criticising the ACN for criticising the president and serving the ACN a dose of their own medicine.

Did the ACN join saharareporters in this speculation? Do you want a Party that wants to be taken seriously hinging their talk on speculation? In so far as GEJ has not announced he will also be seeking treatment while abroad then you have no business insinuating that the ACN must factor this possibility into their utterances.

You really should stop hating others blindly/automatically and start using facts more. I personally would respect you if your arguments were factual. I don't care you support GEJ and the PDP and are thus compelled to criticise the ACN. We cannot all back the same Horse in life but you should learn to base your arguments on the truth and curb your emotions so you remain fair to all.

Like I said before, it may be distasteful for the ACN to criticise GEJ on this occasion but ultimately not wrong because no one has lied against GEJ. Part of the problem is that, regardless of our noise, many Nigerians lack political sophistication and exposure. We are far more emotional than politically sophisticated. My assignment for you is to watch three episodes of UK Prime Minister question time to know your messiah has it far too easy in Nigeria. People like you are the youth and, by inference, leaders of tomorrow. Stop lowering the bar for Nigeria in regards to what obtains elsewhere as standard practice and has made Politicians to sit up and give account of their actions. I am very comfortable with criticism of any politician that are not lies and fabrications because, as much as possible, emotions should be separated from politics. We would do well to learn that in Nigeria if we seek the development of our political atmosphere.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_O4wfEasMU

berem: Very misleading topic! I don't see anything wrong with Lai Mohammed's comment. It's better the president never promised to go to South Africa than promising and fail at the end. Well am not surprised. that's his usual style of leadership. Promise and Fail Syndrome. The Eagles might have lost if he was there...who knows! God can work in mysterious ways you know!

Please don't mind insecere9gerian and his bunch of over-sensitive co-travellers too over-emotional to learn from what obtains , as standard practice, throughout the entire world. Opposition politicians will criticise every single action of the Party in power. In the UK, it is done 24/7 and at every Parliamentary session !!! Yet Britons don't care because they are sophisticated enough to understand it is all politics. What many will quickly grow tired of would be outright lies against others to score a political point - and the PDP itself is master of this. Yet, concerning this article, I don't see a lie. Perhaps over-senstive9gerian and co want the opposition to become to GEJ what Okupe and Abati are to Mr.President.

Sincere 9gerian: You can write whatever you like but the truth is that no rule says I must abide by the headline as couched by Vanguard. The people in Vanguard are human beings, just like myself and cannot claim to be more intelligent.

The Pertinent question is whether or not my choice of headline is representative of the content of the report. The FACT is that the ACN criticised the president. Part of the report states "Meanwhile, ACN has criticised President Goodluck Jonathan for opting
to jet to London for the launch of Obasanjo Foundation insteadof travelling to South Africa to witness the final match"

I had to modify the headline to point out that aspect of the report because it saddened my heart that even at this point of celebration of AFCON cup glory and end of 19yr old trophy drought, the ACN could not spare us their brand of deceitful and propagandist politics.

You are guilty of the same deceit and propaganda. I can even accept that it is political overkill criticising Jonathan but politicians will do this to each other. The PDP is the worst at it because the Party lies and fabricate wildly. They will wildy tell Aregbesola to account for 200 billion when the real sum is not even a tenth of that amount. They will claim Osun is taking a 65 billion Naira bond when the real and planned figure is nowhere near that amount. You don't see those things when accusing some of "deceit and propaganda" because of your hypocritical disposition.

At the end of the day, there is no lie here. It may be distasteful to criticise GEJ but they are correct to state he attended OBJ's foundation launch in the UK. We all know GEJ is currently trying to suck-up to OBJ and the ACN would be a worthless political Party if they don't show the nous or killer instinct to exploit this. As long as they are not lying or fabricating, then you should grow up, stop being emotional and accept this is all politics.

To show uprightness, you should have commented on the other parts of the article instead of simply becoming emotional at the criticism of your messiah to the extent you also engage in the deceit and propaganda you claim to hate.

Sincere 9gerian: Sincerely speaking, I think the ACN many baseless criticisms are nauseating. Must we bring in politics into every thing?

I remember vividly that President Jonathan visited the Super Eagles when they were camping at Abuja and charged to go for the cup, at a time when many Nigerians, including ACN wrote off the team.

Also when the team got to the semi-final, the president spoke with the team via video conferencing and sent a powerful team, led by the senate president to cheer the team at the finals.

But in all of these, the ACN propaganda machine could only take note of the absence of Mr president at the finals. And all these deceit and propaganda just because of desperation for political power?
Smh!

Please spare us your hypocrisy. Why is it only the part that criticise GEJ you "could only take note of" in the entire article? You even deceitfully gave the thread your own incendiary title, not indicative of the main message, because of your style which involves instigating the gullible here against those you perceive threaten your messiah.

Has the entire forum not seen you doing this against Fashola, Buhari, EL Rufai et al? When you tell us ludicrously that you are seeking one project of Fashola, why not do same for Uduaghan's Delta and even GEJ's Bayelsa under his handpicked candidate? ACN are on point with their main message about merit and you should prove their actions on the ground is opposite to what they preach. We all know the Party that deliberately hosts mediocrity everywhere.

hurricaneChris: Always making everytin in this country look like politics.
God almighty will surely judge u guys' insincerity.

Instead of making ur own point, ur looking for whom to criticize.

As if CAN is any better than PDP!

They did make their own point even if you prefer to speak as if you reacted to the altered title of OP rather than read the article. The OP blatantly 419ned you and you fell for it. The original title of the article is :"Afcon: Keshi transformation agenda produced positive result – ACN". Yet the devious OP deceitfully changed it because he knows many here, due to innate prejudice, will react blindly to his incendiary topic, which is not even the main message, rather than read the article.

If you read the article then you will see the ACN made many sensible points and praised Keshi's ethos of allowing merit carry the day everywhere as the Party itself is doing supporting proven achievers everywhere. They made it clear that principle could bear fruit for Nigeria but you missed all that and fell for the mischief of OP who knows the feudal inclination of many here to understand he can get mileage from diverting your focus away from what matters to where he wants it.

”If Nigeria will always field its best eleven in all human endeavours, be it sports, economy or politics, and also allows a visionary rather than a waffling dreamer to lead the team, the country will always be a world beater. That is the lesson from the Super Eagles’ class of 2013,” the party said.

niggaman: wow!!! from an Ex-convict

Na so we see am OOO. Are these not the sort of occurrences that confirm Nigeria to be an aberration?

kooto: This man just has no shame, can't his family tell him to keep quiet.

This is Nigeria where crooks, with no redeeming quality or saving grace, continue to talk and insult the sensitivities of everyone. It won't be that way for long if trends in the SW are anything to go by. It was not long before Adedibu and son limited were cowering Professors. Now, thankfully, his ilk are becoming relegated and extinct quicker than the Tyrannosaurus rex in the SW.

The likes of George can therefore continue to embarrass themselves with asinine talks only praised by losers. At the end of the day, George is finished because the system, in the SW anyway, is moving beyond his type.

vanstanzy: Bode Georges' WORDS ARE THAT OF A DROWNING MAN!GBAM!!!

Drowning man ke? The man drowned a long time ago !!! This is why his utterances are all rants of frustration. He has been totally castrated by Tinubu and rendered impotent in politics . The only folks who take the talks of a loser seriously are other losers. George is a loser.

There is no need for all this toxic enmity displayed here. The bottom line is that politics remain about permanent interests. This is why those who don't understand this are killing themselves in the street over ethnic/political differences while David Mark is hosting banquets for ACN Senators in the USA while they all enjoy stupendous opulence provided by our commonwealth. Folks should inspect what Ohanaeze have said again:

The apex Igbo socio-cultural group, Ohanaeze Ndi’gbo, has told the newly formed All Progressives Congress that it will only support a political party that picks its presidential candidate from the South-East geopolitical zone.

It is a conditional statement asking APC to come and negotiate. While sentiments and emotions dominate the armoury of those doomed to fail, I think winners like Tinubu pragmatically will be thinking of ways to acommodate Ohanaeze if possible. It is not about summarily acceding to their demands or dismissing it outrightly. It is about meeting with them to see if common grounds can be forged. Some people have elections to win while most, from talks here, have ethnic battles to fight. Most of the influential guys in the APC won't be in the latter category.

jethro2: Glad my people are united to push out PDP. If only to prove the ex convict wrong, we have to unite to do this. APC may not be the messiah we are expecting but lets there be change in power for us to compare. Kudos to u guys.

My brother, APC is not the solution but it is badly needed evolution political jobbers like George will never understand. To that end, his kind will talk verbosely and senselessly.