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Demdem: Exactly. SW won't vote retardeen, even Pdp SW won't. NC is even tired of his failures. Igbos will still vote the retardeen even if he is much more useless than this. There is nothing anyone can do about that.I continue to say that this type of talk appear redundant to me. From what is coming out of the PDP currently, a betting man would probably have safer odds putting his money on GEJ not gaining the PDP ticket let alone contesting in 2015. The way some talk here is casually dismissive of the many powerful men/caucuses/blocs and 'interest groups' within the PDP. Jonathan got the ticket last time because many within the PDP, for one reason or the other, thought it best to support his ambition. Those reasons are now completely absent and there is no motivation at all for many to help GEJ within the Party. Add the treachery and backstabbing of GEJ into the mix and it is obvious GEJ's 2015 ambition will be robustly resisted. Why, for example, will Yuguda, Lamido or Aliyu help GEJ this time around with State delegate votes, entirely controlled by Governors, when they did it last time mainly because they thought GEJ would leave the coast clear in 2015, as he promised, to make their own Presidential ambitions more feasible? Let GEJ get the PDP ticket first. He has failed round one as a sitting President who could not get his BOT chairmanship candidate over the line. That is a sign he will have it very tough. |
Afam4eva: I actually thought every state capital had a flyover. Never knew Abeokuta didn't have one.It is not about States just having flyovers for the sake of it. We always dumb down this forum with inanity but issues should be looked at from a town/urban planning perspective. To that end, it is more important to note the infrastructural relevance and efficacy of this project in terms of the linkage this flyover facilitates and the impact it will have on improving general vehicular/pedestrian transport and traffic flow. Some well-thought out flyover projects can completely revitalise an area and improve commercial activities. I have seen this myself in some Cities of Africa outside Nigeria. |
Josh090: Wait, are you saying there's also a fly over being constructed in enugu presently or recently?Abeg, help me tell dem. Some people don't even realise the negative image of themselves they portray to others with their antics here. Their writing only show inferiority complex, insecurity and an unhealthy 24/7 obsession with others. I don't know what concerns Akwa Ibom with this thread and I don't know the sort of bad belle that will not allow some to simply and graciously leave others to celebrate a positive achievement, whichever way one looks at it, in a State and region they live in/use or are affiliated with. |
nuclearboy: I believe he will buy PDP if he can placate OBJ! That is his real battle because OBJ seems to have gotten to a point where he wants GEJ out!Absolutely correct. |
Wadeoye: Igbos are hell bent on destroying this country - we wont allow that. Even tell your people abroad to come home to vote, GEJ will lose 2015 election.Will he even be a contestant? We should get real. The man is facing the mother of all yawa trying to get the PDP ticket and people are already talking about the States he will win and the States Buhari will win. Both may not even feature in the 2015 general election. |
At the end of the day, I doubt GEJ can even gain the PDP ticket. All these type of talk and 'endorsements' come far too early in my opinion. |
okpara ugo: Are you a clownWhy is it those of your ilk who are routinely and automatically angry at any positive news being celebrated about the SW? Why must you be so negative and scornful any time positive events relating to the SW are mentioned here? You are pathetic !!! Get a life and fight the indoctrination inflicted on you that has now blighted your life to make it one unending hatefest against others. You may not know it, but you reek of inferiority complex with your Akwa Ibom d1ck comparison nonsense you drag out every time like clockwork. Akpabio = 5.5 years. Amosun 1.5 years. Now and then, show some class by letting others celebrate the work of their Governor , and the progress they are seeing, without your distracting noise. Stop trying to rain on the parade of others when issues have nothing to do with you. Learn to stay away if you have nothing positive to say. No one says we are in utopia but SW , after it's plundering by the PDP, is seeing progress. Go and die you hateful waste of space. |
http://www.osundefender.org/?p=89814 Amosun inaugurates first flyover, pedestrian bridge In Abeokuta |
Happy Birthday Governor Amosun. We wish you long life and prosperity. Sir, no resting on your laurels. Plenty of time to be the best Governor Ogun has had and to set a very high standard for anyone coming after you. |
Opari. Nothing to add. Thank you for your 'evidence' Dr.Oby Ezekwesili. Waiting to read the retort of Okupe, Abati et al that will no doubt amount to an attack against your person with diatribe labelling you as a "failed and disgruntled element" . |
Jerie: Why don't you string together yor words in defence of GEJ and get your likes?You have said everything I always level at these hideous sycophants here. How many would employ GEJ or even persevere with his high level of ineptitude if they ran a serious profit-driven company where there is no allowance for error? I keep saying it that most of the sycophantic supporters of GEJ cannot be people who have ever been involved in running anything of value in their entire life - whether it is a family, a business, a management position or even a non-profit entity. Their judgement, thinking and sycophancy is so fundamentally flawed and child-like, I cringe when I read what some of them write here. Incoherently, they spewed rhetoric when some of us said nothing will come of the Ribadu report given the deceitful 'committee' antecedent of GEJ no one can deny. What is the situation with that today? Are we, as the only major oil exporter to do so, still not selling oil through traders against the urgent advise from the Ribadu panel that we reverse this odious policy which only abets corruption and theft in the petroleum sector? Can GEJ not put an end to that today if he wants to and thus put and end to the corruption that policy facilitates? Why has GEJ chosen to pretend he did not note that advise from the Ribadu panel, and many others like it that can genuinely transform Nigeria, if he is not a very corrupt and callous man only in office to defend/abet corrupt practices, corrupt folks and the corrupt status-quo? Look, my guy, these sycophants here are losers. They own nothing of value and never will with how they talk, think and lie. There is no doubt about that because normal adult, living normal lives and making normal progress, don't reason or talk as these sycophants do regardless of affiliation or bias. We all have our biases and affiliation but there is a stage well-adjusted people admit "this action is wrong" or that "this man has done this ineffective and diversionary nonsense too many times than is healthy for an ambitious Nation". Probe committee my foot. Any time our charlatan President sets up a probe committee, Nigerians , from his history of deceit, should now be wise to the idea he is using it to buy the months he assume is enough for them to forget everything and go back to the wretched lives him and his gang are delivering via their looting allied with hideous incompetence. Who would think any Nigerian would be foolish enough to defend this coming shortly after the Ribadu report was disgracefully swept under the carpet with its most important recommendations ignored? We never learn in Nigeria so A-looter-continua. |
ba7man: They see us sitting on gold mines not knowing what to do with it....so since it seems as if we don't need it and they do, why not help themselves? They see oportunities and value in Africa that we're blind to, that's why we keep running after them for hand-outs.Superb !!!! Nothing more to add. Get involved and define Africa as Africans, or refrain from complaining when others come to take advantage of endowment we take no interest in controlling optimally. It is a dog eat dog world and the PHD many Africans parade amount to nothing when we continue to insist on playing victims. I think it is only African who never got the "survival of the fittest" script hence their perpetual desire to always talk like weak, little children being bullied by others. At no stage do some African ever pause to think that "charity begins at home". |
gboss4sure: People that has no Good intention for Nigeria always visiting tinubu. Ok naIf the UK has no good intention for Nigeria, then what Nation does? I wonder when folks like you will stop showing baseless paranoia to embrace pragmatism that will make you see what the world, and indeed life, is all about. Every Nation fights for its own interests. If our leaders lose out in the negotiation stakes, as they have always done, then blame them for not being good enough instead of viewing others as dedicated to bringing you down or having "no good intention" for you. That is a pathetic, cowardly and defeatist way to view things because no one owes you anything in a world where every Nation is fighting, and using every tool, to gain advantage. If you don't learn to play the game, stop crying everytime you lose. Rather, me and you should seek to better our understanding of how the world works and learn to play the game well enough to win on behalf of our nation. Whether you see it or not, every time you speak as you do, you admit the West are our masters. Nothing is done to Nigeria our leaders don't allow. If Lagarde comes here pushing an aggressive agenda of getting oil producers in West Africa (Ghana and Nigeria) to stop subsidizing oil import for Arican consumption, who helps to complete the equation to make her pursuit a reality if not our African leaders? Did she hold a gun to their head? Tomorrow you will turn around calling Lagarde the "Vampire from the West" without calming your unhelpful emotion to note she is doing what is best for her side aided by our 'awestruck' leaders who refuse to do what is best for their side and end up always selling us out. |
[quote author=Sam_Ikenna]Yea, I agree, there's always a non-zero probability that he might be jilted by PDP power-brokers. Anyways, nothing is etched in stone. Whatever permutation we all make online is always going to be just online, you never know what and how the wind will blow, thats why I consider proponents of exclusionary politics as jokers. Like I said earlier, I have personally downgraded GEJ score-card. But if I were to be in Nigeria in 2015 and the opposing party failed to present a realistic and all inclusive challenger (assuming GEJ is in) then I would go for GEJ. If anyone is interested in having GEJ removed without much after-election doom, that person better make sure GEJ's base in SE and SS is contested. Leaving his power base in those regions intact while seeking to measure "the drapes" is pure fantasy. These two regions are arguably more sick of Nigeria than the rest, so when I hear funny folks say stuff like "we outnumber them" or "we count them out," I say ride on bro, but soon you'll go over that cliff. Nigeria is already drifting apart, needless to say exclusion will make it worse. Buhari sure will pull in lots of vote from NE and NW but will get zero in SE and SS - if thats not iron curtain I dont know what is. Too many people already feel bad about him and to make matters worse hes never, not for even a single day, tried to clean his image in SS and SE. In the last election he disregarded them, why? Even Awo, despite the fact he knew he was unliked in the East he still went to Aba and sought for their vote - Aba of all places, if you understand Aba you'll get my drift. Some parents lost their children during after-election violence in the north and, rightly or not, they hold GMB somehow responsible yet he never mounted any kind of high-powered image campaign down south to dispel the allegations. I know he said a few times he wasn't responsible but gosh! hes played into the hands of either bad fate or his opponents. Its either he cant sell himself or hes dismissive of others. Maybe he thinks only NE and NW will win him the thing, I guess now hes included SW as part of the axis that'll get it for him. Buhari may turn out to be the only unelectable saintly politician in Nigeria's History. I feel sorry for him.[/quote]Look, you are still making the same mistake by going off tangent again and disregarding the points others make perhaps to satisfy a need to frame things around your outlook. An outlook you would see is inconsequential if you only focus on what others are saying instead of trying to smuggle an SE/SS or ethnic perspective into everything. Also, I really don't know why you are mentioning Buhari here. My original point made was that GEJ may not get the ticket because he has to defeat the Northern caucus in the PDP to gain it. It is looking unlikely to me right now. GEJ's failure will simply mean the PDP will present a Northern Presidential candidate. The mega Party will do the same. Nigeria will get a Northern President, whether some like it or not, and nothing will happen because the stage at which the ordinary Nigerian cannot complain of 'rigging', i.e internal Party election, has been used to cleverly take GEJ out. That is what is likely to happen in my opinion and everything you say here would then simply appear superfluous to issues and rather vainglorious. We are not at the stage where you should start dragging the SE/SS/SW or North into any obligatory regional responsibility/role. We are at the stage where all politicians from all regions, even if processes are tainted with ethnicity, must be respected to churn up their candidates. We have no say in that stage of issues and it may take GEJ out. You need to make that distinction otherwise you will continue to talk of things that don't matter now and may never matter or come into play. This is the stage to just watch what the Parties are doing instead of getting ahead of ourselves. |
Demdem: Another panelAnother probe panel? Like number 350 under GEJ? ![]() "Why I dey laff? Man no fit cry" . Fela Anikulapo Kuti. |
Whether the article is correct or not is inconsequential. Everyone can sense a "dead man walking" except GEJ's clannish fans who are long on sentiments yet have an abysmally poor understand of Nigerian politics. It has been fun watching many ridicule "aboki", since GEJ took over, to be shouting all over the place that "Powermike" (GEJ) will "deal with them". Well, we are rolling towards the business end and children will now gain lessons. |
naijababe: ^ Haba bros!!! When so many Nigerians wanted to go from being shoeless to president! It was far too tempting not to put a rudderless man in charge. Abi oooh !!!! |
take dat: What an insecure and intolerant government, always averse to criticism and inept at doing the right thing!True talk. This highlights the total political naivete of the Nigerian people. What we are seeing now is what 'accidental leaders' have done throughout history i.e blame others for their innate lack of ability that will make them fail, 100% of the time, in a position happenstance, and not ability or merit, put them in. History is littered with many examples of very poor accidental leaders who become very paranoid and operated with the sort of myopic siege mentality that was damaging to their Nation. Most Nations have learnt from history to move beyond 'luck', ethnicity and religiosity in their national politic. Not so Nigeria. All the signs were there that this man is a disaster waiting to happen. His open frolicking with the most corrupt in the land, his nonchalant insistence Teslim Folarin be cleared from a murder probe so as to deliver delegate votes for him in Abuja, his disregard for the rule of law that saw him make OGD his SW campaign manager instead of sanctioning the thug for the disgraceful Ogun State legislative impeachment antics, etc, etc. All this pointed to a desperado unconcerned with doing the right thing and only interested in gaining power at any cost. Despite all those glaring signs, many simple-minded folks chose to believe he must have good things for Nigeria since his path was "ordained by the god who cleared all obstacle out of the way" to see him become acting President and then substantive President after Yar Adua's death. Even here on NL, religious loon attack anyone who criticise GEJ because we dare to criticise "god's anointed one". If it is not the religious psychos, it is the bigots shouting that Jonathan is criticised merely because the Yorubas and the Hausa/Fulani hate him. It all makes one want to puke. In the end, Nigerians deserve this man and they deserve his misrule, stupid excuses and the blame-shifting antics his Government is entirely about. |
ilugunboy: Space reserved to come back in some few months time to tag some folks here as liars!Add "traitors against their nation" to that list. Is it not the same sort of people who insulted some of us recently because we stated that nothing would come of the Ribadu Petroleum task force report? These shameless sycophants lied to others and to themselves, right on this same forum, about "white paper", "harmonised version", "ratified copy", "approved version" and other bullsh1te rhetoric when we should all be in agreement that "nothing will happen" given the historically deceitful conduct of our President. Jonathan has had a squillion chances to prove sincerity of purpose. Yet he has let Nigerians down every time by being the same person to ignore the recommendation he willingly went to seek expensively. What is the situation with that Ribadu probe today after the "few months" marker you identified and after all the jargon we read here from shameless cretins? They are at it again with this issue and overall, you waste your time with these unrepentant sycophant. Their motivation is something you will never understand because they don't and will never see Nigeria. These people have no shame and will continue to defend GEJ blindly. They are the individuals who vividly illustrate that our nationhood is lost and that Nigerian will have it much tougher than others because of the concept of the 'enemy within'. They are the reason a very clueless man will remain in office damaging Nigeria and making the work of future leaders much harder. How many probes, how many committees? How many more Crocodile tears and empty promises? I think in Nations with even moderately united and sophisticated citizens, politically, majority would have put their differences aside to condemn GEJ as a big fraud. |
[quote author=Sam_Ikenna]This is why Nigeria's luck ran out eons ago. You've written off SE and SS, because, according to you, you're the majority ethnic group in the southern hemisphere. Dont let Lagos population fool you. This is a new Nigeria, its no longer the one "you" operated in 70s through 80s. The Nigeria "we" [emphasis on 'we'] have now is the one "minorities" have found their voices and will never be taken lightly. It'll be nice to see how far "your old Nigeria" will go with Igbo majority, SS, and some middle belt minorities already counted out. Think about this: What if GEJ wins again? What if GMB wins but GEJ rigs and is declared winner? What do you think'll happen - nothing, nada, rien! Maybe protest in Lagos, violence in Kano and nothern Kaduna - end of the story. GEJ happens to double as mr president and son of the "oil" soil, remember that. If you push him too much or if he feels like hes been chased by "outsiders" he might unleash his "brothers" to shut the oil down and, bro, there's nothing you can do. The last time MEND was active remember how much oil revenue we lost? I guess by now you know who the boss is. There is a gigantic world of difference between reality and fantasy - fantasy here is simply counting out your paymaster or telling him how hes surrounded and outnumbered. But the reality is - he owns the wealth and he can turn the tap off at any time of his choosing. Mind you, I'm not in anyway implying SW or any other zone for that matter will die or decay once oil is gone, rather I'm saying once the oil is gone that "your" Nigeria you so much used to intimidate and outnumber others will go the way of exponential decay in matter of months. Now who's the boss! You or the man you outnumbered? If you're still in doubt as to who the boss is, ask why Boko Haram is still not paid like we did to MEND. For NL folks this is my take on GEJ and 2015. I think GEJ is a C-/+ leader. I dont think he has any serious agenda for Nigeria. However, if the other political parties field Buhari in 2015 then dont blame GEJ for winning again 'cause he will win. Buhari is more saintly than GEJ - that I believe, but electability in Nigeria political landscape does not and may never depend on one's degree of sainthood. We've been doing passi passi since 1970. Anyway, if the merger btwn CPC and ACN takes place and GMB runs against GEJ, lets assume GMB pairs with Fashola (have nothing agaisnt Fashola - he seems to have his head screwed right), its clear the outcome'll be combustible for the nation. Nigeria will split down the middle and anything can happen.[/quote]Your post would make more sense if you did not assume it is a foregone conclusion GEJ will run in 2015. He may not even gain the PDP ticket and may actually be given the treatment he dished out to Sylva regardless of any amount of Nigeria's money he is planning to spend to buy support. His candidate , that his pitch for the PDP ticket relies on entirely, could not even become Chairman BOT of PDP despite team GEJ having plenty of time to plan and initiate winning strategy. Ali, drafted in at the last minute and effectively a semi-retired and disinterested Politician, defeated the candidate of the sitting President embarrassingly to the extent they had to claim "deadlock". After that event, GEJ is now trying to mend fences with OBJ. If we were a less sentimental people, it will be obvious to many that events are already suggesting that GEJ will struggle to get the PDP ticket for many reasons and for the fact he has alienated many,many, many influential folks than is politically healthy. |
Deep Sight: I have heard this said by people and it never ceases to amaze me. You see; this is one of the problems we have with our way of thinking in this country: the willful determination NOT to take responsibility for our actions and particularly our in-actions.Man mi, OK you win. Buhari is this and that. Thus he is disqualified by Deep sight and all the kingmakers and influential stakeholders, on the ground, are therefore compelled to comply from now henceforth. If Buhari emerges the candidate of the merger, what will all what you wrote here against the man have amounted to? You should simply respect the opinions of others and move on instead of diverting focus from the topic of the thread. You cannot expect everyone to share your view that Buhari is not a "realistic option" and I expect, when the real business begins, you will see how inconsequential your position is given that those who will 'kingmake' for the mega Party will certainly not think rigidly or as judgementally as you do. They will simply be looking for the candidates who represent the best chance of wrestling power from the PDP and not whistle-clean reincarnations of Jesus. |
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It is sad that Nigerians have become a people who have to experience the very worst of conditions before they embrace change. When some of us have been clamoring for State police for a while, many came out with ridiculous excuses. Now I see comments on NL in support of State police from posters who previously opposed the idea simply because they have now seen the awful and dehumanizing conditions our police officers have been condemned to by the Federal Government. Without beating around the bush, the FG completely controls the NPF. The FG is singularly responsible for the appalling Channel pictures we all saw. In the last 14 years, under three PDP President, the NPF has gotten worse. The words of the current President shows there is no hope. Instead of him to be contrite, if a true leaders who takes responsibility, he is egotistically linking the Channel exposure to efforts aimed at discrediting his Government. This is the gradualist charlatan leading Nigeria. Everything happening to Nigeria is the fault of Nigerians 100%. Such is displayed on this thread with some still trying to hold brief for the President and FG by politicising/obfuscating very simple issues. When GEJ chose to see the Channel report as an attempt to rubbish his government rather than a call to urgent action, it was always obvious what we are seeing now will happen and that the usual suspect here will begin their impotent defense of the Government. They assume gullible Nairalanders always swallow up their 'spin' no matter the number of times such antics have been seen from this shameless and deceptive government. The same played out with the Ribadu report whereby many unpatriotic charlatans, devoted to individuals above nation, came here, even insulting others in the process, to argue that the Petroleum task force report was merely 'postponed'. Yet we know better today. All Nigerians, whatever their affiliation, should be united against the shenanigans of this shameless and clueless government. No Nation succeeds via toying with its police force, starving it of funds and treating it members worse than animals kept in the worst and most foul zoo. This is what the PDP has done to our Police officers for the past 14 years and counting. They are the reason our officers are not dignified, fulfilled, motivated or even interested in doing their job properly. This is why State Police is inevitable. |
Olaolufred: WE MUST NOT BE SUNK IN THE DEEP OF MIS-CONCEPTON.Post of 2013. Yet, ethnic/sectional/religious bias will prevent many from appreciating the important issues, ultimately beneficial to the progress of Nigeria, you have shown good vision and analytical intelligence to lay out succinctly. |
Deep Sight: Alrite. Permit me to ask a question which is actually a deviation from the thrust of this thread. For this thread, we are discussing realism and realistic prospects. However, let me just digress slightly to inquire from you if you personally believe it is apt, moral, proper, historically acceptable, conscionable and respectful to ourselves as a nation - to parade or elect a former military coupist as a presidential candidate in this country - a coupist who overthrew the last democratic government in this country?If you know me well here you will know that (1) I stick to contemporary politics here and refrain from historical events because it is an area bogged down by subjective interpretation to the extent those who were not there, like many on this forum, can speak vehemently and decisively in favour of the versions of events they wish to accept. Carrying on a debate with folks of such mentality is an exercise in futility. I therefore prefer to talk of things I understand completely and can speak on devoid of conjecture. (2)If at all I will comment on historical event I will pay respect to the fact I was not present at the times of those events and must not arbitrarily chose versions of events to believe. I will therefore rely on the documentations of events as much as possible by eye witness as the most sensible method to gain a mental picture of events I did not witness or live through. That is how it is worldwide - even if we like to emotionally 'blur' the lines in Nigeria. To that end, it has been stated time without number by those who were present during that period, and even the man himself, that the coup was not a Buhari coup. That is good enough for me. http://www.elombah.com/index.php/special-reports/13873-muhammadu-buhari-i-never-plotted-a-coup-in-my-entire-career But after that, Shagari was overthrown. I was invited to head the government after the coup as the most senior officer. It was not a Buhari coup. I never plotted a coup throughout my military career. I was not a coup plotter. I was invited. |
At the end of the day, after all the back and forth, there will be a solid bloc vote for Buhari from the politicians themselves. We should all remember that non of us here can influence that stage of things. It is likely most opposition Politicians , especially those who will be spending their money and deploying their political machinery expensively , will simply conclude it is easiest to leverage on the goodwill Buhari enjoys in the North and match that with a popular and proven performer from the South. This would appeal to pragmatic men and women more than the notion of gambling on an experiment that involves building up Ribadu, El Rufai et al. For those mentioning Southerners as Presidential candidate, I can confidently tell them to forget it and face reality. Any merged entity will settle for Northern President/Southern VP. Deep sight mentioned Buhari failing when he was paired with bakare last time to bolster his argument. Is it not obvious that Bakare was not much known beyond his church and pulpit when he was thrown in the ring in an act of desperation by the CPC? I did not even know who Bakare was till he became VP candidate alongside Buhari. How can the fortune of that ticket be compared to one that will include the most popular Governor in Nigeria who is most likely to deliver Lagos and the SW for anyone he runs with? Oshiomhole could do same also as he is extremely popular at home and would be backed by the ACN machinery in the SW if the merger becomes official. We must all remember that the CPC and ACN produced candidates that slugged it out against each other in 2011. Working together and for the same candidates in 2015, things will be different. Anyway, I am not interested in sentiments so I will predict that many permutation will certainly make Buhari one of the Favorite choice, amongst the kingmaking politicians themselves, to be the Presidential candidate of any merged entity. |
Deep Sight: Why risk a controversial candidate at all if you are determined to seize the presidency from the PDP? Why not shop for someone without such "baggage"?Buhari is not "controversial" in the North. He did well in the North in 2011. His 'Achilles heel' is the image problem he has in the South. That can always be worked on by pairing him with a popular Southern achiever like Fashola. In all of this, let us not forget that Buhari is a huge vote-winner in the North. Buhari is not my first choice but I would not mind him in 2015 at all because of two things. (1) He can win votes in the North ,better than almost anyone else that comes to mind, that will contribute to the defeat of the PDP. Of course permutations change if GEJ fails to gain the ticket and the PDP goes for broke with a popular Northerner. (2) I envisage he will be the character to do what Nigeria needs more than anything else. The deployment of square pegs in square holes. He is one of the few characters amongst our prominent Politicians who will fearlessly give the radical leaders of tomorrow a chance. We will see appointments like Femi Falana as AGF and Ribadu as Petroleum Minister. Buhari will likely seek to succeed on the template of using proven achievers and men of principles. He will then provide the protection that will allow these guys get on with the job of transforming Nigeria. Anyone who is dedicated to doing that ,as President, will resolve most of the major problems of Nigeria in record time. That is what we want instead of the naff gradualism of the PDP. |
Demdem: Excellent development however I see no APGA or even labour party here. Does this mean they are merely "stooges" for the killer party or what?No one is willing to ask those two Parties because they have made it amply clear they will pitch their tent with the PDP as is their prerogative to do so. Best not to waste time with them. |
take dat: Its amazing how people deflect the responsibility for their actions and choices, and blame others or circumstances for their problems without proffering a solution. Most folks against this merger on the pretence that there are the same failed political elites are not card carrying members of a political party nor aided in the finances of these parties , while they expect a positive change without any meaningful impact from them. We should as well revert to a One-Party system since people are satisfied with the status quo of having only PDP, a party responsible for the dysfunctional state we find ourselves!This is why I say the are worthless to Nigeria politically. They never get involved yet are the most vocal. Has it ever occurred to some here that these old men persevere because, as IBB pompously stated, "Nigerian youths are not ready to lead"? Rather than go and reflect on that and come back with a more pragmatic outlook, as many of us have had to do, issues remain about empty "they are all the same" noise as if that helps anything. Are we not ashamed making noise about these 'old crooks' while they continue to lord it over us? If we cannot join the process to deliver the change we want, we should at least have the good grace to shut up let evolution achieve what we have the power to hasten yet simply reject in preference for sentiments, curses, idealism and all other manners of pre-occupation totally worthless to Nigeria. When the Nigerian political space is full of crooks, the intelligently pragmatic man will know things can only change in one of 3 ways. (1) Nigerians directly intervene to take charge or install those they agree to to be undoubted good guys like Wole Soyinka et al. (2) In the face of a lack of the readiness to carry out option 1 above, then evolution must do its thing to extrapolate events and awareness within and outside Nigeria to help deliver a better cadre of leaders in future. (3) As a deeply religious people, We continue to pray for a Messiah who will rise from the Atlantic Ocean to deliver Nigeria. Clearly, given the impotent sabre-rattling antics of Nigerian youths and how God does not appear to be in the business of miracles any longer, then 2 remains the best choice for those who don't deceive themselves. If you believe the PDP has ruined Nigeria then support change and the merger. If you believe in the PDP then please support them with all you have. The worst are the fence-sitting folks in the "they are all the same" category. They should shut up because what they are doing is what has gotten us where we are today i.e complain against everyone and everything yet never proffer solutions or even consider getting involved to deliver change. |
Afam4eva: What's it with Nigerians and hypocrisy...There will always be cross-carpeting by politicians in Nigeria because the stage of our political evolution means we cannot get away from that right now as there are too many crooks still involved in our politics while the loudmouth Nigerian youths, as we see from responses here, limit themselves to hurling insults from afar with no intention of getting involved to rid the nation of the 'crooks' they curse daily. It is all about 100% idealism for many Nigerian youths and zero% pragmatism. This makes many of them worthless, politically, to Nigeria . The ACN,as an ambitious Party , has to deal with the political reality of Nigeria ,unlike you and others here, and come out with a pragmatic package that delivers success. It is up to the ACN to manage PDP entrants properly while retaining their core political identity and belief. This is demonstarted with Amosun who joined the ACN from another Party yet is fastiduously sticking to the template of governance of the ACN. It is not just simply about getting on a high Horse, as you and others do daily, and saying naively all these men should be burnt at the stake when you and most Nigerian youths are not ready to step up and wrestle control from these crooks laughing at you. When you talk without pragmatism it is obvious people like you don't know what they want. Until you and other youths step up to rid Nigeria of the old boys you hate and insult from afar, then you will have to accept the current model i.e one that involves the old boys, some in their 80ties, recycling themselves from Party to Party till evolution and the principles of the lesser devil slowly get us where we need to go. For now, show you can work with current reality by understand that, in the face of the inaction of you and other Nigerian youths, Parties will continue to use those who stand to be counted even if their motivation is sinister till the system becomes more clean. No Party can be composed of saints and angel because that Party will get nowhere in current Nigeria. Ask Utomi regarding how he fared last time despite being deemed a good guy. |
taharqa: Agreed....at d end of day, dis merger and stronger Opp parties is in d overall interests of d nation regardless of what happens in 2015...Correct. There is a very important aspect to things beyond our personal opinions, affiliations and bias. It is the aspect that concerns the evolution of Nigerian politics till it resemble models we all envy worldwide. Regardless of our personal opinion, It is indeed in the long-term interest of the Nation for the opposition to be strong politically. When any ruling Party knows that the opposition is strong enough to boot them out at the next poll if they do not perform, then they will deliver at least the basics instead of feeling comfortable taking everything/everyone for granted. |
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