₦airaland Forum

Muna4real:
Don't mind them. Later they will chant "black lives matter ". Nonsense

Its all about Envy of Nigeria.

YEBOmadiba:
Clearly he feels entitled to SA now that Nigeria is a failed state.

copy GeneralMarshall

Nigeria on top of SA

YEBOmadiba:
Clearly he feels entitled to SA now that Nigeria is a failed state.

copy GeneralMarshall

Kk

YEBOmadiba:
Do u lap up fake news on the regular, or just today to embarrass yourself in front of South Africans? How can a poor country such as yours spend 60 billion US DOLLARS on another far richer country? You don't even spend that much on yourselves every year - check your annual budget.

Just FYI, there are way better countries that helped SA in its fight against apartheid, especially in Southern Africa and Scandinavia. But most importantly, SA people fought for their own freedom. Who paid $60 Billion for Nigeria to gain it's independence? Our freedom was inevitable.

Jj

Obakillah:
Why? Did you fight apartheid so you can troop all your immigrants there?

We fought arpatheid to free the black southies but it appears they now want to challenge their boss who freed them.

YEBOmadiba:
Somalis and Ethiopians are also strong in small business in South Africa, so you're not special. The Ghanaians are retaliating for some building issue from last month.

You are too obsessed with people being jealous of u. There's nothing to be jealous of Nigerians for. Fix your country first then we can have something to envy. And stop being a white worshiper, SA joined the BRICS and G20 during black leadership while you were snoozing, and we just beat u to chair the Africa Free Trade Area. So go lick your wounds in a corner and open a dictionary for the true meaning of the word jealousy.

Nigeria made a mistake fighting against arpatheid in SA. We should have allowed the whites continue to rule.

Now,,,, owambe soldiers.

Gone are the days you see soldiers and you fear their looks. Now, many owambe people join the army.

Before,,,, stern looking soldiers.

Na wao. Where is our SDB III. Who can update us please

Scaremongering is not good. Anyway, Sam just keep low, but no fear anything.

I suggest you deactivate the handle and create a new one entirely. Me, I use that strategy to offload xoxo followers.

giles14:
brother its time you pipe low,make military intelligence no for pick u up.

Abegi,,, what info has he shared here that is sensitive? But he should still pipe low still, but not with fear.

Best mop up strategy.

rka1:
The problem is there are not enough tactical transport helicopters to sustain such operations considering the size of the NE. These operations are usually intelligence led and fighter jets or helos scrambled to take out the targets. You will need dedicated air assault troops in several basis on QRF. Then there is the danger of minefields and booby traps you can walk into or land on (British Paratropers once landed in the middle of a minefield during an operation in Afghanistan. Not a good outcome).

This is possible for some operations especially when the enemy is moving quickly and not had the time to set up defences. Also, once known this is what happens after the military attacks, ambushes will be set up by BH/ISIS aided by fifth columnists.

On point. To mop up the terrorists after air strikes, we need helicopter gunners in huge numbers. There is no need to drop soldiers, they can fire from above and kill all the running terrorists. Helicopter gunners is the key.

This strategy is not new, I just dont know why it isn't used these days. Me, i just tire for our military commanders.

Heartlessbanker:
This thread is useless. You will ask a question and no one will answer. I'm outta here.

Sorry, don't go. We need you here, even though the thread is full of trouble makers

Please guys,,, let us contribute to the thread. Military contributions only.

Some people have nothing to contribute here,,, just to make trouble.

Guys, military contributions,, or just read posts and go.

When you report me to the police,,, be sure that the report has been sent to my email.

Whether you go to Panti police station or Alagbon,,, or even Abalti barracks. Nothing is going to happen,,, you hear. Nothing. I walk in the corridors of Abuja,,, you hear me.

One phone call and case don close. You hear.

Toju200:
how sure are you..?

90% sure. Obviously,,, the meeting should ring bells because we have never followed S Korea militarily.

So, the meetings should indicate something. I am 90% sure of my info.

I favour the very low scale insurgency to continue for another 10years.

Benefits of Insurgency war.

(a) Army division now 8 from 4 divisions.
(b) Army now 200,000 standing.
(c) Local defence production in navy, army and air force.
(d) Navy now 3 naval commands from 2. And many FoBs.
(e) Upgraded navy trainning to cover naval infantry and SBS, sub-sea trainning.
(f) Upgraded trainning curriculum in all military schools to cover counterinsurgency, urban warfare, desert warfare, counter terrorism, IED detection, etc.
(g) Real life intelligence experience for new officers and trainees in the north east for DIA, DMI, NIA.
(h) Real life experience in use of drones.

If the military benefits, then its good for naija.

mekussa:
These kids are the biggest military threat we are GOING TO FACE in the near future. Those kids that were born or abducted into their camps around 2009/2010 and started receiving the trainings and indoctrination early in life are either the commanders or close to commanders now. Those ones have also had kids who, alongside the abducted kids have also started receiving training and indoctrination (note that their training now is from those with battle experience unlike the previous generation).

The longer this conflict lasts, the larger the recruitment pool, the more rigorous the indoctrination and training and the EXTREMIST the new foot soldiers are.

My brother, if deaths can be reduced drastically,,,, then the insurgency should continue on a very low scale for another 10yrs

See the loads of new generation weapons the military is buying,,, and the rise in local defence production. If not for boko haram,,, the military would still be where it was 13yrs ago,,, like a 14th century army.

So much progress has been made militarily,,, because of boko haram. If insurgency ends,,, the military and MoD will relax again. That is their way.

So, let the insurgency continue low scale with no deaths,,, if possible. Attack army and flee,,, then its good.

LTGEN:
It does appear Nigeria and Korea are going to be doing some Military Biz.
The Biz details have yet to be disclosed.
We know their Army COAS has also met with our Army COAS.

New S Korean tanks coming to the NA soon.

nemesis8u:
Building defence links with S Korea will be a big plus , if persued. Especially buliding up local capabilities.

They are very flexible

The problem with S Korea is that they are puppies to the US. Hence, the US can veto or pressure them to do their bidding. However,

The army is eyeing some badass Korean tanks,,, we had plans on the table to buy them. The specific tank, I can't reveal... but yes we are facilitating the purchase and introduction of one S Korean made tank to the Nigerian army, hence the new talks with S Korea.

SuperSixSeven:
That is a T-84 Oplot-M of the Thailand Army.

Possibly. Thai army also uses the VT-4, so a mix up is possible.

But I got the pic from a VT-4 promo.

Nigeria's new VT-4 MBT in full combat loading.

Very impressive.

ugo4u:
Did you even read the story on that link?

Don't mind Lie Mohammed. The man don high. His comment is at variance with what Buhari said yesterday, during a meeting with service chiefs. Believe Lai for only garbage talks. He hardly makes sense to me.

Fake news. Lie Mohammed was talking about the past.

LTGEN:
WTH happened to the Bh on the left’s head it looks like something out of a cartoon.
What was he killed by an RPG?

His skull was fractured by the bullet or whatever. Hence, the structure in the head was gone as the skull was shattered.

Litmus:
Mozambique no-be South Africa doormot?

If care is not taken, South Africa is going to need for herself those weapons komekn advised that we should get off our high horses and bend our knees for South Africa to dash us with the disdain of a Superior Power.

Yes o, let the Southies go in and let us see how they fare against isis. I would be watching keenly.

opeyemi2012:
I promised to create this thread because I noticed that a lot of nairalanders have wrong perceptions of what workers in "core civil service" really earn monthly.

Civil servants vs Public servants

According to the then Head of Service of the Federation in 2018, Ms Winifred Oyo-Ita.....

Oyo-Ita, who is a member of the minimum wage committee constituted by President Muhammadu Buhari in 2017, said there is ongoing deliberation on the pay disparity between the public and civil servants.

“There is a difference between civil service and public service, civil service is a subset of public service, so you find that in the enlarged public service we have parastatals that are earning fantastic sum of money and we have military and para-military earning money that cannot be compared to that of the civil servants.

“This core group of civil servants are just about 80,000 and they earn peanuts. A driver in the civil service earn as low as N18,000 to N20,000 a month.

“You have a director who has been in the Service for over 30 years, due for retirement is having a monthly take home of about N300,000, whereas that is the starting point of some graduates in some parastatals.

“In some parastatals, fresh graduates are starting on N250,000 – N300,000 and you want the director to go and supervise such agencies.

“All the issues of pay disparity will be addressed in the Presidential National Minimum Wage committee.”

https://thewhistler.ng/fg-to-address-pay-disparity-between-civil-and-public-servants-oyo-ita/amp/

Sadly, these issues were not addressed.

https://theeagleonline.com.ng/remedy-huge-salary-disparity-in-core-civil-service-labour-urges-fg-2/

Categories of Ministries, Departments and Agencies (MDAs)

BY STATUTORY FUNCTIONS
a. Ministries/Core civil service: The Ministries play a supervisory role to the parastatals. The Ministries are headed by Ministers. The head of service is the most senior civil servant.
b. Parastatals (agencies and departments): usually under a Federal Ministry or under the office of the SGF i.e Presidency.
They have more precise functions according to the Acts that created them. These are headed by DGs, EVC (as with NCC), Director (as with DPR), CFI (as with NAICOM), GMD (as with NNPC), ES (as with PEF, TETFUND) CEO (as with NEPC, NIDCOM), etc

BY SALARY STRUCTURE
a. Harmonised salary structure funded by National Treasury: These includes all Ministries and most parastatals (agencies/departments/institutes etc) whose annual budget including salaries and allowances are funded from the National Treasury. You will always find their budget estimates in the annual national budget.

MDAs in this category uses salary structures like;

CONTISS
CONUASS - for academic staff of universities
CONPSS - for core civil service/ministries. Also the poorest
CONPASS - for paramilitary agencies
CONAFSS - for armed forces
CONMESS - for medical doctors
CONHESS - for health workers
CONTOPSAL -for top officials like NASS Clerk, SAs to the President, NSA etc
CONTEDISS
CONRAISS - for research agencies/institutes
CONPOSS - for police
CONPCASS - for polytechnics and CoE
CONICSS - for intelligence community i.e DSS
etc E many gan ooooo.

b. Special Salary Structure funded by National Treasury: These group enjoy a special salary structure (most times 4-10 times higher) than the CONPSS (the poorest salary structure). However, they are funded from the National Treasury and are included in the national budget. e.g NEITI, NARSDA, BPE, DMO, BPP, EFCC, NIGCOMSAT, ICRC, SEC, DPR etc.

c. Self-funded agencies: Agencies under this category are revenue generating agencies. They fund themselves and therefore determine their own salary structures. NNPC, CBN, NPA, NIMASA, FAAN, NAMA, BOI, FMBN, NCC, PHCN, FIRS etc fall under this category.

BY UNOFFICIAL CATEGORISATION
On the street, among lawmakers during unofficial discussions and among job seekers, we have;

a. GRADE A/JUICY AGENCIES: Agencies that oay 200k and above monthly. Also revenue generating agencies fall into this category. For the lawmakers, these agencies have the capacity to give out mouth watering contracts. NCC, DPR, NDIC, NIMASA, PPPRA, PEF, etc

b. GRADE B AGENCIES: Agencies that pay between 80k -150k but below 200k. NACA, NHIS, NLN, most paramilitary agencies, FAAN, NABDA, NAIC etc. Most agencies fall under this category.

b. GRADE C: Agencies that pay below 80k. All ministries are also included here with the exception of Petroleum Resources, Justice and one other I cannot immediately remember. NIPOST, NIMC, and few other parastatals fall under this category.

Having said that, a level 08 officer (BSc holder) in the core civil service (Ministries and grade C agencies using the CONPSS) earn below 60k monthly as net pay. Level 09 (MSc holders at entry level) earns below 70k/monthly and PhD holders at entry level (level 10) earns below 80k monthly.

An BSc entry level staff at DPR or PPPRA (SS6 is what they call level will earn more monthly than a senior lecturer with over 5 years post PhD teaching experience in a federal university. If ASUU finally joins IPPIS, a Professor will earn less than an entry level BSc holder at NLNG, PPPRA or DPR.

Attached are July 2020 payslips of some civil servants in a federal agency but using CONPSS (same as the Ministries).

PS: I won't entertain any questions. I don't have any connections. I don't sell job slots. I work in a grade B and seeking to move to a grade A. No PMs please. Thank you

@allthingsgood. I promised to quote you.

Nice one

persius555:
This infiltration is certainly not a joke. Global terrorists have their eyes fixed on West Africa, ultimately Nigeria. Our intelligence community be better off working in synergy

The US alarm was actually an Invitation.

sconp:
My man, nobody owes you anything, I can choose where to contribute and where not to.
Stop making a nuisance of yourself.

You think you know everyone that visits this thread?

Rest!

Stop making nuisance of your head bro. You were one of the first visitors since 7.30am,,, to follow a fight. You never contributed to the thread, but you were waiting for the fight. Smh.

Marshall & Tobi ,,, laughing at foolish people,,, who want to watch fight.