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Politics › Re: Throwback: Appeal Court Dismisses Suit Seeking Obi’s Disqualification. by GeneralPula: 6:48pm On Jul 05, 2023

fergie001:
You have to be a member of a Party before you seek nomination and/or candidacy. So be it membership, sponsorship, nomination....

Right..

But Obi is not a valid member..

Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 6:39pm On Jul 05, 2023

ragna1991:
Ait,, I agree with you, it was civil forfeiture, but what lead to that and where is the proceed from.
I want to know, explain civil forfeiture for me,,.
However, because he was not charged nor convicted does proved him to be innocent of the accusation.

Explaintomeplease.

Forfeiture - A situation in which government can take away your property or money if the origin of such item was from illegal dealings..

A forfeiture becomes civil if after investigation, you have no hand in the illegal dealings where the money or property came from! It means you’re a victim of the circumstance yourself! Such person won’t be charged as he/she hasn’t commits any crime..

A forfeiture becomes criminal if after investigation, you have a hand in the illegal dealings where the money or property came from. In this case, such person would be charged and would sure go to jail!

In tinubu's case, he has no hand in the illegal dealings which brought the money into his account. The money doesn't belong to him and he has no knowledge where it came from!

However, IRS found out the money came from a drug trade! IRS involved DEA for more thorough investigation but tinubu wasn't involved! This was why he only forfeited the money and he wasn't charge for any crime!

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Politics › Re: Reactions From The Torture Of A Man At Enugu For Violating Sit-At-Home Order by GeneralPula: 6:25pm On Jul 05, 2023

They’ll soon move to 5th most deadliest terrorist group on earth..

Nah matter of time..

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Politics › Re: Out Of 39 Proposed Witnesses, Tinubu Only Called 1. Where Are The Rest? by GeneralPula: 6:17pm On Jul 05, 2023

Penguin2:
So you admit that Tinubu’s defence is empty?

Didn’t you know the meaning of admit?

The real question should be - what exactly is tinubu going to defend? Most of these cases are watery cases! Their was nothing strong for tinubu for defend!

There’s a reason why Mancity do use Team C whenever they’re playing against average team..

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Politics › Re: PEPT: Court Concedes Proof Against Peter Obi Not Being An Individual From Work P by GeneralPula: 6:15pm On Jul 05, 2023

HIGHESTPOPORI:
Pre election matter,stop dreaming.,the apeal court have already ruled on the case and said Peter Obi was qualified to run

I think a political party Membership is different from party candidacy nominations (this is purely internal affair & I think this is what you’re saying)..

Let wait & see..

Politics › Re: Throwback: Appeal Court Dismisses Suit Seeking Obi’s Disqualification. by GeneralPula: 6:13pm On Jul 05, 2023

fergie001:
I loved the back and forth arguments on my thread ...
And I learnt more, Kudos guys

https://www.nairaland.com/7753103/obi-not-member-labour-party

To end the matter is to browse through previous Supreme Court decisions.

Jurisdiction is like a gate to a house, which when closed, you cannot get access to that house.

No matter how finely delivered a judgement is, without jurisdiction it is null and void.

When the Principal relief in a case is without jurisdiction, it is incumbent that the suit filed be dismissed (SC in Tukur v Government of Gongola State 1989).

In the following decisions of the Supreme Court:

PDP v Sylva, PDP v Ortom, Agi v PDP, Ufomba v INEC, Onyeagocha v Onyewuchi, Ita Enang v Akanimo Udofia, PDP v Shettima...

The Apex Court has maintained one thing that leadership and membership issues are pre-election matters which the Court has no business with.

They are domestic affairs of the Political Party.

The Principal claim by the respondents touches on membership issues (the reason the register was tendered), hence will definitely be thrown out by the Court.

Again, the respondents has not shown any personal injury that Obi's membership or otherwise has caused them.

They are meddlesome interlopers, busybodies and have acted like paid mourners hired to cry more than bereaved (per Nweze in PDP v Ortom)

In PDP v Sylva, the Apex Court was apt.... It is not the responsibility of the Court to pick Candidates for the Party, neither is it the job for non-party members and worse still non-aspirants who didn't participate in the primaries of that party to intervene.

I think a political party Membership is different from party candidacy nominations (this is purely internal affair & I think this is what you’re saying)..

Politics › Re: Throwback: Appeal Court Dismisses Suit Seeking Obi’s Disqualification. by GeneralPula: 6:11pm On Jul 05, 2023

Penguin2:
Define valid and invalid members of a political party.

Valid member - party members registered at INEC within the lawful time frame, according to law..

Invalid member - party members that are not registered at INEC within the lawful time frame, according to law..

Politics › Re: Throwback: Appeal Court Dismisses Suit Seeking Obi’s Disqualification. by GeneralPula: 6:03pm On Jul 05, 2023*

basilo102:
Only those whose name are in the register have the power to question Obi on the matter

I think a political party Membership is different from party candidacy nominations (this is purely internal affair & I think this is what you’re saying).

They’re are 2 different things..

[b]You’re not a student of a school is different from you can’t be SUG president of a school. Only a valid student of a school can contest for SUG president. But then, what if you’re not a valid student of a school?

A student cant contest for SUG president is a school internal affair. Only a same school student can’t tackle such, not an outsider! This is not what Apc is mentioning..

A student isn’t a valid member of a school is a school affair, but not internal! Anybody that has evidence against such student can nail him/her! This is what Apc mentioned!

Thank God for obi, he brought inec to court! Inec, of course would testify if Obi’s membership is valid or not. Lp didn’t see it coming, believe it or not and that’s one thing about Woke Olanipekun!

One thing is to be a lawyer, one thing is to know how to use law to tackle your opponents! He’s very brilliant in both aspect!

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Politics › Re: Throwback: Appeal Court Dismisses Suit Seeking Obi’s Disqualification. by GeneralPula: 5:56pm On Jul 05, 2023*

Jogs1900:
What Tinubu is saying is that Obi is not a LP member by presenting LP register hence no mandate to claim.
Even if there was a waiver, did they update the party register?NO
It's not debatable.

Right..

Their can’t even be a waiver as waiver is only for valid party member..

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Politics › Re: PEPT: Court Concedes Proof Against Peter Obi Not Being An Individual From Work P by GeneralPula: 5:52pm On Jul 05, 2023

Lp does not have any valid presidential candidate for 2023 election..

Maybe 6m votes that would have gone to Pdp already gone to the durst..

Apc did their permutations well..

Politics › Re: Out Of 39 Proposed Witnesses, Tinubu Only Called 1. Where Are The Rest? by GeneralPula: 5:47pm On Jul 05, 2023

Apc does not really have any big issue..

Not Obi, not Atiku was able to proved how they won..

Empty cases everywhere..

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Politics › Re: Throwback: Appeal Court Dismisses Suit Seeking Obi’s Disqualification. by GeneralPula: 5:39pm On Jul 05, 2023

Section 77(3) states, inter alia, “[b]Each political party shall make such register available to the commission not later than 30 days before the date fixed for the party primaries, congresses or convention.” Full Stop, nothing more, nothing less.

What I’m saying is that that section did not state what the consequence for not submitting such register would be nor did it state that only those whose names were found in such register would be eligible for election.

You’ve acknowledged the fact that Obi isn’t a member of Lp! Now, wait for court judgements! Quoting sections after sections is stress. Case is in court for judge to judge it!

Obi will stop coming to court as from henceforth. Y’all will see!

As for this Op, he’s good at deceiving headless mob so nothing new..

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Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 5:35pm On Jul 05, 2023

debeginin:
OBIDIENTS really need to go back school.
They are everywhere shouting OWN GOAL.
Illiteracy.

That’s their style. That’s how they usually labour in vain..

They make noise, but when you check, you won’t find anything significant..

Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 5:32pm On Jul 05, 2023

unity004:
I think you are right, if tinibu was guilty there is no way He will escape prison in the US as at that time

Exactly..

Ain’t no way bro..

Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 5:28pm On Jul 05, 2023

luluman:
Are you still blind?

Nope..

Why?

Romance › Re: Man & His Friends Seize All He Bought For His Girlfriend After She Dumped Him by GeneralPula: 5:19pm On Jul 05, 2023

KimFlorence:
Honestly I am irritated by this type of men

Nah, you don’t have to..

Some guys do this out of painment! Especially, those guys that are easy spenders!

An emotional human that can do anything for you to smile, can also do anything for you to make you feel otherwise!

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Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 5:08pm On Jul 05, 2023

naturefellow:
for your small mind. Na so!

It’s the reality I’m telling you bro..

Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 5:07pm On Jul 05, 2023

Davinity:
So they just told him to forfeit the money like that?

Just like that?

Abi? What are they supposed to do? After IRS investigations, he wasn’t guilty of anything regarding the money! The next is to forfeit it civil-ly!

But, had it been, after the investigation, he was guilty & involved in whatever brought the money into his account, it would have been a criminal forfeiture! In such case, tinubu would forfeit the money and then get indicted - he would have gone to jail!

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Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 5:02pm On Jul 05, 2023

Iselogunise:
That argument stands to reason. Just that its unfortunate that our academic system is quite bad that some people dont understand difference between convict and suspect

From onset, most of us know that #OBIDATTI claim on this is not going to stand the test of time. Anyway, what do I know self?

You dey mind them?

Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 4:34pm On Jul 05, 2023

Nakedtruths:
Guy you dey funny, take that advise that novarisammy2 gave you

No worry bro..

We shall see when court rules eventually..

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Crime › Re: Woman Burnt Policewoman & Her 2 Children To Death In Anambra by GeneralPula: 4:15pm On Jul 05, 2023

grafixlord:
do you track scammers as well am a victim or do you know who to report to... I have evidence of my claim

Go to the state CID and then narrate your story..

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Crime › Re: Woman Burnt Policewoman & Her 2 Children To Death In Anambra by GeneralPula: 4:14pm On Jul 05, 2023

PUNCH Metro gathered that the suspect, who hailed from the Amawbia community, after being divorced by her husband, became homeless and was in dire need of accommodation when the policewoman offered her accommodation in her apartment.

A source in the area said Nwosu was living with the policewoman and her family members until an argument that degenerated into a fight ensued between her and the policewoman.

Their typical character..

Be careful who you help..

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Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 4:04pm On Jul 05, 2023

PaellaPaella:
Why did you failed to instruct Mr. Bamidele to say that in Court?

That’s exactly what he said in court. If you read the whole article. Op twisted the headline to give headless mob some erections grin

Here’s it;
In his evidence-in-Chief, Senator Bamidele insisted that the $460, 000 forfeiture order against the President by an American Court was in respect of a civil matter that cannot take the place of criminal charges.

Bamidele, who is the immediate past Chairman of the Senate Committee on Judiciary and a registered member of the American Bar Association, said there was no conviction and sentence against Tinubu as required by law for it to be turned to criminal charges.

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Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 3:49pm On Jul 05, 2023

Novarisammy2:
go and read up the current chief justice definition of forfeiture

take ur time while reading it

Lol..

Ain’t nothing to read bro..

Instead, I’d say you should go read about the different between Civil forfeiture VS criminal forfeiture..

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Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 3:45pm On Jul 05, 2023*

001Lagos:
The money doesn't belong to him, it belongs to your ghost .

Why do you defend criminality shamelessly even when the truth is staring at you on the face?

Mr bamidele testified that the $460,000 forfeited by Tinubu to the united states authority was linked to narcotics drugs but you that have never seen the four walls of murtala Muhammed international airport it defending rubbish..

Engage me reasonably and not all these trashes you’re saying..

I’m sure you read the part where the witness stated this but choose to ignore cuz he didn’t suit your mindset: In his evidence-in-Chief, Senator Bamidele insisted that the $460, 000 forfeiture order against the President by an American Court was in respect of a civil matter that cannot take the place of criminal charges.

Bamidele, who is the immediate past Chairman of the Senate Committee on Judiciary and a registered member of the American Bar Association, said there was no conviction and sentence against Tinubu as required by law for it to be turned to criminal charges.

The case is DOA from the beginning! We told you guys! Wait for court action! I wonder why you’re still wailing when the case is in court! grin

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Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 3:41pm On Jul 05, 2023

Novarisammy2:
how about the other report from people gazette where he admitted that the forfeiture was linked to drugs ?

abi u didn't see that one

Of course, but then tinubu didn’t commit the drug crime! Hence why he never got charged! Emotion can’t win you court cases!

The forfeited money was related to drugs? Yes!

Was Tinubu sentenced for the crime? NO!

Why wasn’t tinubu sentenced
or got any indictment? It was cuz he had a civil forfeiture! Not a criminal forfeiture!

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Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 3:34pm On Jul 05, 2023

basilo102:
Go and check former supreme Court ruling on forfeiture

You should also check the different between Civil VS criminal forfeiture..

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Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 3:31pm On Jul 05, 2023

001Lagos:
So the $460,000 forfeited by Tinubu is for what if not drug?

Mtchew..

Asking same question everyday..

Tinubu had a civil forfeiture and not a criminal forfeiture. This was why he wasn't charged nor indicted for any crime or drug related crime!

The forfeited money doesn't belong to him in anyway! Like the witness stated, tinubu was never indicted nor charged cuz his forfeiture was a civil one

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Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 3:17pm On Jul 05, 2023

Bamidele, who is the immediate past Chairman of the Senate Committee on Judiciary and a registered member of the American Bar Association, said there was no conviction and sentence against Tinubu as required by law for it to be turned to criminal charges.

Case solved!

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Politics › Re: Obi Is Not A Member Of Labour Party: Tinubu, Shettima Tender Membership Register by GeneralPula: 12:45pm On Jul 05, 2023

IkeGod9891:
On shetima double running ticket. The court said it's not the affair of PDP to interfere. Pw is it the duty of APC to interfere in that of LP?

You didn’t get it?

Obi is not a member of Lp!

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Politics › Re: Obi Is Not A Member Of Labour Party: Tinubu, Shettima Tender Membership Register by GeneralPula: 12:05pm On Jul 05, 2023

Jogs1900:
This is technical knockout.

Can it take effect comrade?

Sports › Re: Carlo Ancelotti To Become Brazil's Coach From June 2024 by GeneralPula: 11:49am On Jul 05, 2023

He has tried..

Goodluck..

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