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EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 10:02pm On Oct 02, 2013
ayoolar011: Graduated with a degree in History early this year, Buh I always wanted to read law, can anybody give me tips on what steps to take and possibly school that I can apply to, cos I have been applying for like two years now and still no result. Now that I'm through with my first degree, I want to give it a shot. And intend going in through UTME. pls help thanx
there are two options available to u which are:
1) write jamb again and get admitted for law.
2) apply for a second degree and study law for four years instead of five (note that this might be difficult as it entail u having a good grade in ur first degree and being connected in the case of some skuls).
Good luck bro
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 9:57pm On Oct 02, 2013
Fynestboi: thanks for this, want to ask sum1 wud obtain LLM, can such go to NLS? Or is it only for LLB?
sorry i got ur post confused. Dont think the second option is possible but u can get an LLB as a second degree after studing philosophy. u get admitted to the NLS with ur LLB... Got ur post so wrong so disregard my previous post.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 9:44pm On Oct 02, 2013
Illuminatus: Thanks. I've been hearing about John but I am not yet ready to read him yet. I'm on Stephen King now.
But more importantly, I tried searching for an ebook about Legal Method or Theories of Law from the site and I didn't get anything. Help with where to get those?
you might not be able to find legal method testbook online cause its peculiar to Nigeria, but u can try to look for learning the law by lord denning(its an introductory book to law). You can try searching under the philosophy section for books on theories of law. Look for books that talk about jurisprudence.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 9:36pm On Oct 02, 2013
lana_Vello: 1.getting ll.B as your first degree and going for your masters in philosophy
2.getting your first degree in philosophy and going for your LL.M as your 2nd degree
which of the two above is possible?
and which is better?
the two options are possible. In my opinion the second option is better it gives ur mind the maturity and mindset that it needs to study a course like law. Philosophy is like law in abstract. So studing phl before law would expose u to things like structure of argument, logic, philosophy of law (jurisprudence), meta physics etc. All the aformentioned are essential in forming a great lawyer.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 4:39pm On Oct 02, 2013
Fynestboi: i need this lil help from my law/philosophy brother/sister in the aus, i really need to get myself busy and i need books [novels, inspiration bks, philosophical books, law books [just in form of a novel and nt textbk or handout] just help me with names of the book then i would go get it.. thanks
finest go to this site www.e-booksdirectory.com/ for ebooks on law and philosophy. Also if u are interested in Grisham's novel (he is a legal writer) u can visit www.ebookbrowse.com and type grisham in the search box. U can try books like runaway jury, the rainmaker, the street lawyer, the appeal etc.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 10:13pm On Oct 01, 2013
Creative mind: Fentolu, thanks. May God bless you and replenish you too. I pray his divine grace reflects in all you do. @ Gentlefada, time will pass in the blink of an eye. I pause to ponder on those days my white shirt is as big as my dad's agbada wit the usual 8 in one notebook for freshers. Today, i stick to fitted shirts, versace trousers and feragamo belts. Not PRIDING though. Just telling you that one day, you'll come back to check this post as a SAN by God's grace.
big amen to that.... pls do share ur experience with us when u resume for law law skul.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 7:48pm On Oct 01, 2013
Creative mind: Yes it is brother. You may wish to congratulate me. The law school posting list is out. Abuja on point. Where is my ghana must go and bagco bag?
congrats man. Cant wait for my turn though still far away.
Nairaland GeneralAmalgamation Or Independence. Which Is More Worthy Of Celebration? by gentlefada(op): 12:21pm On Sep 30, 2013
The territory that is today known as Nigeria came into being in 1914 when the then governor general Sir Freidrich Lord Luggard (who was a british administrator) amalgamated the sounthern and northern protectorate to form a single country. This amalgamation was done by Nigeria's colonial masters which were the British government.
A few years after the amalgamation pressure began to mount on the British government to grant Independence to the country that they put together. This pressure was mounted by nationalist movement and groups formed with the sole purpose of getting Nigeria out of the control of the British government. Notable nationalist of that era are Chief Obafemi Awolowo, Chief Nnamdi Azikwe, Alj Tafawa Balewa etc. Due to intense pressure the British government finally granted independence to Nigeria on the 1st of october 1960.
53 years down that road there has been ups and downs but the contry has stayed as one but with so many problems in terms of the governance of the nation.
My question is which one of this two significant events in the DNA of Nigeria is more worthy of celebration in reference to our current state as a nation? Is it the fact that we were brought together or the fact that we got our freedom.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 10:32pm On Sep 26, 2013
hyper gig: Bro logic is smeared in science, it entails deducing a valid thought process from an argument structure.

Logic no be beans bro, lawyers resort to logic to create a balanced argument, orators employ it to sound more convincing.
Logic makes u look less dumb nd kinda brainy, cz u opt for d best form of argument nd dole it out as d most viable, science is firmed on logic nd so is maths etc. logic presents u with the best fact, why do u think it's a GNS in almost every uni.

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Bro i know logic can be used to the things u have mentioned. My question is how? We are taught logic in abstract in my skul. I want to know how that abtract can be used in real life scenerios to make logical deductions. For instance, someone makes an affirmative statement to u. How do u prove the validity of that statement using logic. Would be glad if u can explain this becus all we keep doing is derivation.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 6:05pm On Sep 26, 2013
Illuminatus: Hello guys. I'm Michael. Freshman. Enugu State University of Science and Technology. I'm hoping someone here can give me the course outline for Legal Method I? I'm trying to read up during this strike but I don't even know what to read! The local library isn't helping at all, too. Thankssmiley
there are the topics:
1) defination of law
2) theories of law
3) evolution of law
4) objective of law
5) theories of function of law
6) law and morality
7) aspect of law
cool method of social control through law
9) legal reasoning and approach to problems
10) fact finding and dispute resolution
11) legal reasoning in judicial process
12) legal reasoning in legislation
13) sources of law
14) legal research and use of source material
15) legal writing
You can buy introduction to Nigerian legal method by Abiola Sanni.
Note that the outline is for both first and second semester. Skul would determine how topics many would be taught in a semester.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 1:10pm On Sep 26, 2013
hyper gig: Phil is a rather firm base from which other disciplines sprout, phil contends with intense clarification of hazy issues nd situations nd it also raises questions.
So as a philosopher u are a multi dimensional being with an IQ quite different from the whole lot, nd that's only if u can absorb the logic nd outlay inherent in it.

Per job wise u can do virtually anything with a degree in phil, since it centres on reasoning nd clarifications, tell me which company or org no get problem wey no go need rational mind to resolve, there's a place for phil in medical ethics were cases of euthanasia abounds, u can work as a special agent nd help oust out criminals,also on the floor of d stock xchange market as an ethics officer or better still go into private biz nd create a niche for urself with ur wealth of knowledge.

Oladejo mayowa moshood
Phil 4 lev
Unad/eksu
pls dont run away ooo. Most guys from ur department juat announce themselfs and leave. Also would like to ask you if u think the logic we are being taught in uni can be applied in real life scenerios
EducationRe: ASUU Matter: Facebook Message From President Jonathan by gentlefada(m): 1:25am On Sep 24, 2013
As far as am concerned some one(special advicer) asks the president 'what should we write on facebook about ASUU', and he replied 'tell them we are negotiating with them'.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 6:29pm On Sep 22, 2013
benity: Please any part 5 law student in any university which ASUU strike didnot affect. Please state ur university
not in part 5 but i think my skul's part five is not affected by the strike. My skul is OAU
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 6:27pm On Sep 22, 2013
phtemie: Seriously,this fee is relatively high.
yeah it is and my fear is the fact that it keeps increasing. Remind me of one of my lecturers saying that 'law is not a profession for the poor'.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 6:24pm On Sep 22, 2013
phtemie: I have a question about the law school..I want to know how applicants are scattered across the six law schools in the country..Do they get the chance to choose their preferred campuses or it's the sole responsibility of the council for legal education?
to the best of my knowledge yes, but if the school u chose is not available you get posted to another one.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 11:54am On Sep 22, 2013
lana_Vello: service b4 law skul or after law skul?
besides,is it profitable to practice law wit jez LL.B?
service is usually after law skul but there are times when student cant go to law skul in their year of graduation so they go for service instead of staying at home. On the other issue that u raised i think thats entirely up to u. If cooperate law is ur calling for instance, u might need to get a masters to progress. On the other hand if its litigation its not mandatory and many litigators have succeded with just their first degree. So the decision is entirely urs....
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 11:44am On Sep 22, 2013
lana_Vello: service b4 law skul or after law skul?
besides,is it profitable to practice law wit jez LL.B?
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 11:47pm On Sep 21, 2013
lana_Vello: is it a must law students serve? is it even required? +how much does NLS cost?
yeah i think it is. Nigerian law school right now cost between 250 - 300 thousand naira but their fees keep increasing ooo.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 1:05pm On Sep 18, 2013
olire: hmmm, You hav a point there. But everyone in naija is corrupt, plus judge, in the case of one judge, you are just bribing one person. But bribing twelve people will be harder.
nice one. You noted that the judge can be easy to get to and that is true but trust me getting to 12 poor or middle class nigerians would be easier than getting to a judge with a reputation to protect. I think the jury system better suites the american judicial system but it would be bad for Nigeria. Imagine if someone like Gbenga Daniel that was a former state governor going on trial and it is left to 12 poor or middle class Nigerians to determine his guilt. Trust me he would get a not guilty verdict. I my opinion what we can do is to use retired judges in form of a jury and we might get a better judiciary....... So much to say.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 11:02am On Sep 18, 2013
olire: MTCHEEEW, no wonder justice goes to the highest bidder angry
I get ur point but i doubt if the jury system can function properly in Nigeria. In a country that is plaqued with corruption having a jury system would cripple the judical system.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 10:53am On Sep 18, 2013
korexes: Korede
300l (2nd semester)
lasu
civil law
Welcome sire. Ur class is one am looking forward to cause i love law of tort (personal injury). Again welcome
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 10:48am On Sep 18, 2013
where have all the philosophy undergrades gone. This thread lately has been dominated by law student. Bring it on guys lets talk logic and epistermology.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 2:50am On Sep 18, 2013
Fentoluwa: *mouth agape* bro, so you are in part 2
yes i am
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 2:49am On Sep 18, 2013
Fentoluwa: *mouth agape* bro, so you are in part 2
yes i am and am loving the class...
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 2:47am On Sep 18, 2013
Fentoluwa: *clears throat* i read sagay and fogam not cheshire. Misrepresentation is a false statement in the course of negotiation which induce a party to enter in to a contract. Are you saying a sort of misrepresentation occurred? Can you remember that when two parties are accustomed to dealing with each other verbal agreement is binding whether it is reduced to writing or not.
Actually the cheshire and fifoot test is contained in sagey check page 125-126. The reason why i asked if you were aware of this would be clearer once you have read those pages and also read the trietel test that follow it.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 11:44pm On Sep 17, 2013
ugogozi: Onu ogochukwu.
100level.
Law
National open university of nigeria (noun)
Pardon me but have ur school been accredited by the council of legal education. I tut u guys are not allowed to run a law programme
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 11:34pm On Sep 17, 2013
Taylor184: I don't just know why I find it hard to understand 'CoNsideratioN' in Law of Contract.....Its d only topic givin me problem under Law of Contract.....
Nice thread by the way,I hope D oga's @d top will lecture learners lyk mysef very well grin grin grin grin
consideration is actually very easy.
First of all, know that the issue of consideration does not arise when the contract is under seal(in a deed). Therefore, it is applicable to informal contracts(simple contracts) i.e. Contract in writing, spoken form, or by conduct. Examples of these kind of contracts are sales of goods, promise from someone to another etc.
Secondly, i think consideration is simply explained by using sales of goods. For instance, if you want something that a market woman has then you have to give the market woman something in return for what you want from her. That thing you are giving in return (in most cases money except in barter trade) is what is recognised as consideration.
Finally, and this is really important. There are some elements that constitute a valid consideration. One of the is sufficiency i.e. consideration does not need to be adequate to the receiver only sufficient and must be something of value to the receiver. There are other element but am sure u can find that in ur text.
Its a really interesting topic, you just have to law a good foundation in other to understand it.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 9:53pm On Sep 17, 2013
Fentoluwa: The argument here is 'how binding is the verbal agreement? Terms of contract may be implied or express. I will say oral contract is binding 'Let me give an example. In my state the then governor promised some loyal traditional rulers cars worth millions of naira if they win their domains for him during d general election which they did. After his re-election he said "his earlier promise was just a gimmick" in the instance above, is the verbal agreement binding?
nice, but are u aware of the three testsof chesire and fitoot for differenciatiing a term from a misrepresentation.
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 2:37pm On Sep 17, 2013
Fentoluwa: Consideration is the basis of a bargain. Suarez signed an extension contract with his club to play for more years on the basis that he is free to leave if his club doesn't make it to the UCL. Enough consideration was furnished by him to stay longer, he can sue to seek redress at the court. According to facts presented above the verbal agreement is part of the contract and binding. An offer was made and the club consented to it in form of an acceptance.
good ansher. But what if the club contests that the said verbal agreement is not a term since it was not reduced to writing the what would be suarez's position
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 10:42pm On Sep 16, 2013
This question goes out to law student who have done law of contract(part one guys sorry oo).
For those of us that watch football (the english premier league to be precise) we just experienced a summer transfer window. One event that stood out throughout the transfer window was the 'luis suarez saga' in which at the end of the transfer window liverpool were victorious.
The situation was with suarez and liverpool football club is explained below.
1) at the end of the previous season luiz suarez had a contract extention with contract.
2) the new contract extended the player's playing time at liverpool by a few years.
3) most importantly before this contract extension was signed there was said to be a verbal agreement between liverpool and suarez(lets assume for the sake of argument that agreement exists).
4) the verbal agreement was that if liverpool did not qualify for the chanpions league that season suarez could leave if an offer of more than 40 million pounds was put forward by another club.
5) liverpool did not qualify for the champions league and an offer came for him from arsenal which was 40+1 million pounds
6) but liverpool refused to sell luis suarez claiming that the clause is not in his contract.
Now the question is what are suarez option if he chooses to sue liverpool (taking into account consideration and terms of contract).
Intellectual anshers only pls.....
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 10:42pm On Sep 16, 2013
This question goes out to law student who have done law of contract(part one guys sorry oo).
For those of us that watch football (the english premier league to be precise) we just experienced a summer transfer window. One event that stood out throughout the transfer window was the 'luis suarez saga' in which at the end of the transfer window liverpool were victorious.
The situation was with suarez and liverpool football club is explained below.
1) at the end of the previous season luiz suarez had a contract extention with contract.
2) the new contract extended the player's playing time at liverpool by a few years.
3) most importantly before this contract extension was signed there was said to be a verbal agreement between liverpool and suarez(lets assume for the sake of argument that agreement exists).
4) the verbal agreement was that if liverpool did not qualify for the chanpions league that season suarez could leave if an offer of more than 40 million pounds was put forward by another club.
5) liverpool did not qualify for the champions league and an offer came for him from arsenal which was 40+1 million pounds
6) but liverpool refused to sell luis suarez claiming that the clause is not in his contract.
Now the question is what are suarez option if he chooses to sue liverpool (taking into account consideration and terms of contract).
Intellectual anshers only pls.....
EducationRe: A Thread For Law And Philosophy Undergraduates, Graduate and Aspirant. by gentlefada(m): 11:10am On Sep 16, 2013
lana_Vello: so you can't be a judge without being a lawyer first?
to the best of my knowledge NOO

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