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TheCabal:Modern day Jews pass through the maternal, also explain why the Cohen Model haplotype is Paternal Why were they testing the Y chromosome of the Lemba and not the MTDNA to see if they are from Israel? I'm waiting. Why are all the genealogies in the Bible only list the males? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10677325/ |
TheCabal:http://m.jpost.com/Blogs/This-Normal-Life/Roman-vs-Jewish-law-whatever-happened-to-patrilineal-descent-389254 |
TheCabal:The Jews were paternal in the Bible,even now Mr.Greenspan of FTDNA uses YDNA to trace to Jacob, which is why Cohen model haplotype is a Y-STR paternal Marker, not a maternal one, there is a reason why only males appear in genealogy trees in the Bible. You don't know much. |
totit:When have I ever said that all igbo's are E1b? Huh? Quote me. I never said that, I said that some were E1b, and some were E1A, I clearly recognized that some igbo's do show up as E1A.That is not denying the results, denying the results would be saying that 'no Igbo has E1A.' The only reason they were not accepted as Jews is because of the E1A, but they're some igbos that have E1b. |
totit:You clearly cannnot read, here is what I said: "Yes but you are trying to say that every single Igbo is not a Jew. I'm saying that some are Jews" For the first part I was clearly referring to comments made by you, I am not contradicting myself, you clearly took my words out of context but only highlighting "every single Igbo is not a Jew" instead of highlighting "You are trying to say that every single Igbo is not a Jew" |
RussianICBM:They only did Y25 testing, what ancestry are they doing with YDNA testing? |
totit:The no Semitic DNA they're referring to is the E1A, since they only did YDNA testing, they cannot tell autosomal results from a YDNA test, the YDNa test was Y25. "Saliva samples were collected from Igbo community for Y25, DNA test on February 6 and 7, 2017 at Nnewi, Anambra " https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.informationng.com/2017/08/igbos-not-jews-dna-result-reveals.html/amp E1b can be found in igboland. |
totit:Yes but you are trying to say that every single Igbo is not a Jew. I'm saying that some are Jews. |
totit:You don't get the point do you? J1 is a Jewish haplogroup, but a lot of non-Jewish Europeans have it, that does not mean that J1 is not Jewish same thing applies to E1b1a. Using your logic J1 Jews should quit claiming to be Jewish, as a lot of non-Jewish European clans have J1 too. |
totit:"The E1b1a haplogroups highly concentrated Southern Nigeria with highest concentration of its E1b1a1a1fla in a subclade in Igboland" http://www.academia.edu/26524853/The_Igbo_Jews_And_The_Questions_of_Genetics_and_Culture |
ezeagu:There are ancient Hebrew skeletons buried in israel, if we tested those we would be able to find Jacob's ydna through his children. I never said that the haplogroup as a whole was from Jacob, only that Jacob would have that haplogroup, and that would mean anyone else that claims to descend from Jacob should have that haplogroup. |
totit:Yes, however the point is to address the fact that some igbo's are Jews.Some clans of igbo's could be Jewish while other clans would not be Jewish. Also, on Wikipedia, igbo's are listed with 89% E1b1a. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_Sub-Saharan_Africa |
totit:Are you ignoring my comments, I clearly said not all igbo's are jews, and the igbo's that were are still Igbo but Jewish voice did not tell us how they knew that the random samples were of Igbo origin. |
IgboSubmarine:His wife's haplogroup would not matter, she would have to test her father while Kanu would only have to test himself. |
totit:I did not say that all igbo's are Jews, only some. And I did not say that the igbo's that were tested were not igbo's only it was not confirmed, as they took random samples. |
totit:https://www.google.com/amp/dailypost.ng/2017/08/06/biafra-jewish-scientists-storm-anambra-present-confirmatory-dna-test-igbo-origin-photos/amp/ The International President, Jewish voice Ministries, Rabbi Jonathan Bernis and his team have stormed Nnewi, Anambra State, to present confirmatory DNA tests on the claims that the Igbo’s are of Israel descent. |
totit:E1A was not found in north-African/arabs population unlike E1b. Not all igbo's are E1A, the 124 igbo's were the ones that made Igbo get rejected because of their E1A. If the Igbo that were E1b got tested they would of been accepted. 124 samples is to small for a tribe that has over 30 million members. |
IgboSubmarine:If they continued to marry Israelite man, their YDNA would not change. But let's say a woman's father is an Israelite, that would make her an Israelite,but if she goes an marries a non-Israelite man and gives children to him, her children will not be an israelite she would still be one thought. But if an Israelite man marries a non-Israelite woman, his children would still be Israelites, but their autosomal would show ancestry from both parents. |
totit:The igbo's were rejected because of E1A, if the samples were E1b it would of been different. |
IgboSubmarine:Actually intermixing would not affect the YDNA, only the autosomal. But they trace through paternal linage, it does not say "You much be atleast 70% Jewish" it is your male ancestor must come from Jacob. |
totit:I didn't say that all igbo's have E1b1a, I said some do. I do recognize that igbo's have E1A as well. Like the Lemba tribe who had both E and J. |
ezeagu:Jews trace ancestry through paternal, if the father is an Israelite, than they would be considered as Jewish as any other Jew. It wouldn't matter if the Jewish autosomal dna is at 1%, if there are descendant of a male Israelite let's say 2,500 years ago but they have been intermixing with non-israelite woman they would be still considered an Israelite. |
totit:Watch the video again, Bernis list E1b as a Jewish haplogroup, its even the first that is listed. Now your just denying facts. |
IgboSubmarine:Nnwei |
ezeagu:It would be a factor in testing Jewish ancestry, such as somebody with haplogroup B would not Jewish 100%. |
ezeagu:Lemba's buba clan has a high rate of the Jewish cohen gene. |
ezeagu:If Jacob's Ydna was E1b1a, that haplogroup would be the Jewish haplogroup, not for everyone, but for some. |
totit:If Jacob had E1b1a, and some igbo's have E1b1a you would not consider the possible Jewish ancestry of Igbo's? |
totit:Your denying that some igbo's do have E1b, making them Jewish according to Bernis. |
totit:That is not the point, if Jacob's DNA was found and it was tested to be E1b1a, but E1b1a is at an 80% rate in Africa, that does not make every African Jewish, it would just mean that Jacob's YDNA is E1b1a and it can be used to see if somebody has a chance of being Jewish, Jacob would come from a group of people that have E1b1a, however those people would not stop giving birth once Jacob was born, they would give birth to other people with E1b1a, but they would not be considered Jewish. |
0b100100111:The 'some' are the E1b Jews igbo |
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Why were they testing the Y chromosome of the Lemba and not the MTDNA to see if they are from Israel? I'm waiting. Why are all the genealogies in the Bible only list the males?
Are those E1A not collected among some ibo group/people before it was examined 

loolx he's been all over the net fighting for a week now