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bakynes:
One Estate in Lagos Called Abesan Estate built by Lateef Jankande (the first civilian governor of Lagos) has over a thousand high rise buildings not to talk of other parts of Lagos so forget about it Anambra cannot have more high rise than Lagos.

Not to forget the East is small so all those building are concentrated in one small space. The South East is only a few kilometres-square bigger than Oyo state alone.

You very funny, you are quick to remember the SE is small but forget that Lagos is actually the smallest state in the federation...again, how will you be comparing Lagos and the SE. Even if lagos has more multistorey than Anambra which in all sense I can agree but cant be more than the whole south east.Never!...If more than the whole south west, yes but Lagos can't have more multistorey building than the whole south east.

Again stay on the key word. Multistorey building and not highrise buildings before hediots start misdirecting the argument .

Ofemannnu:
If they are lazy and still richer and educated than the Igbos,then lazy is better than lazier.Igbos are lazier. they depend on rituals..otokoto which they brought to the SW and injected the virus into some Igbo-nally minded Yorubas,baby factory,stealing and selling of babies,mass drug peddling,cannibalism etc but with all these,Yorubas are still more prosperous than the Igbos.Yes,Yorubas control the economy of Nigeria because they have massive industries and are the most industrious.Igbos are like labourers while Yorubas are the CEOs.

smh

1wolex85:
Lol, now its no more storey buildings, it has to be 4,5 or 6. If you really think the Jide Taiwos and Diya Fatimilehins make their money from the east, then your case is serious. Like I said before, this is a baseless argument, you can continue to believe what you want, your problem.

mister speak for yourself OK.

See, let me tell you authoritatively, it is easier to get a multistorey building to manage in the east than any other region in Nigeria Lagos inclusive. Lagos is already saturated with uncountable estate firms struggling for the multistorey building there unlike the east where the real estate industry is fast growing. If you get a 5storey building to the firm, depending on the design of the building, it is good as bring at least 10 flats. In some cases it may be 20flats if it is 4flats in each floor.

Jide Taiwo, diya fatimileyi and my firm know this and it is only in the east you will easily get such properties relatively with time. Apart from Lagos, abuja and port Harcourt, Enugu vis a vis south south/ east have the biggest property market and still growing.

Michael004:
I know my London. I am telling you that, that place is preferable if I am to travel cos they still have something fascinating unlike a barren region.

Have somethings fascinating like what? Oil and what? The reason why you guys end up as our taxi drivers, taliors,mechanics and vulcanizers...

Economic parasites!

Michael004:
And how does south south equivalent to east? What is in the east that can fascinate us to go there like others?

hahah so you agree now that SS,the northern region, Ghana and other westbafrican countries were you find yorubas are your London now shey? Hence you migrate there as economic parasites..hehaha..I guess you can see how silly you sound. So long as the place or region is not SE, it is london

By the way, lazy people cant be fascinated by the east Cos the level of competition there is for men with diehard survival instinct

Michael004:
Anunty, do you know difference between high rise and story building? Why are you showing story building and calling it high rise? Which school did you go to? Even Lagos with the highest high rise in Nigeria only has 150 high rise as at 2016. I am not talking of story building o. Why are you disgracing yourself? When did story building equivalent to high rise?

go back to my comment s and show me where I mentioned storey buildings as high rise. Its either you cant read or you have comprehension challenges.

I never mentioned high rise mister. You are the one who needs more education on that.

Michael004:
[s][/s]Go to Europe, America, Asia and other African nations, go and see yorubas there. If we want to travel, is it now a place like eastern Nigeria? A place where its people like you can't stop trooping in mass to our land. We can't stoop so low. Yes, we don't travel because we don't travel to eastern Nigeria. We agree.

by you claim, then what are Yoruba's doing in the south south, in the north, in Ghana or other west african countries? Since the southwest is an eldorado where everybody goes too? Expose and cure yourself of ignorance. Thanks

ENG1110:
I agree with your submission, that is why you have more bungalows in the north, because they have more land. However, these are just multi storey buildings, and not high rise.

I never claimed they are high rise buildings, please go read all my comments. High rise buildings in any case are usually, office apartments, hotels and other forms of institutional buildings

1wolex85:
You are very funny, the high rise service apartments in Ikoyi alone is enough. Then if we go to the estates, do you know how many 3 storey blocks, festac alone has? Please this is not an argument abeg.

You sound like a local, untravelled Yoruba boy who sees Lagos as the beginning and the end. Ikoyi that is more like a district. How many block of flats in festac? Same festac i know or where?you are even talking of 3storey, while Onitsha,Aba and Enugu alone are all commanding 4,5,6 and in some cases 7 storeys. How big is ikoyi or festac? Anyways, i leave you to your ignorance. Who am I to school you?

You wonder why all the big southwest owned estate managment firms are running to the east and south south..

All the jide Taiwos, diya fatimileyin and co and a host of many more firms are in every city in the south east/south.

In the east once you are able to convince a landlord to give you his property to manage, do you know what it means to your account statement?

Travel Mister man. That's all I can say

Guestlander:
Lagos state is also densely populated with economy far stronger than that of the SE. Remember, this is Lagos alone not the whole of the SW.
Not only that, there are more towns and cities in the SW than the SE.

the same Lagos economy is stronger than that of all other sw states combines so what is your point?
BTW am not from the SE.

Towns and cities? You mean mushroom forest and delapidated,backwards and uncivilised settlements?

Guestlander:
The reality on the ground does not support your assertion. All over the world people migrate to where the standard of living is higher not out of there.

not necessarily Mister, people also migrate for economic opportunities.

What are the Chinese and Indians doing in africa?

What of Nigerians in Togo, Benin, Cameroon, Niger, south Sudan etc? Are those countries better than Nigeria in standard of living?


Again what of southerners in the north, does the north have a better standard of living than the south?


Site a seaport in the likes of that in Lagos in the eastern region and see migration reduced.

Guestlander:
The south east is one of the most densely populated areas in the whole of Africa. When you cramp about 30 million people in a space roughly the size of Oyo state you have nowhere to build but up.

you are right, which also support the argument that the east has more multistorey buildings than any place in Nigeria or Africa... As being argued by a poster in the previous page

AnambraDota:
YORUBAS ARE TOO LAZY TO WORK HARD, TRAVEL AND CURE THEMSELVES OF IGNORANCE.

LIVING IN SLUMS AND GHETTOS ARE THE HALLMARK OF YORUBA POPULACE, THEY GLORIFY MISERY BY TELLING YOU LAGOS IS THE BEST THING OUT OF SPACE.

LAZINESS HAVE REALLY BECLOUDED YORUBA SENSE OF REASONING. THEY THINK LIVING IN A GHETTOS IN LAGOS IS BETTER THAN LIVING IN GRA IN ABAKALIKI OR YENEGOA.

well, I have travelled and stayed in all the southern region for a substantiable length of time, hence i can tell the difference in the regions and standard of living and for real, the south south and south east have higher standard of living and to add, housing is the singular most important indicator for measuring standard of living. Because it defines hygiene, environment and health in one picture.

And if you live well, you will surly eat well

As for ebonyi, I have not been there but check this ipob rally video in abakaliki, you will notice the concentration of multistorey buildings on both sides of the road more like a boulevard even more than owerri by my guess


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHD2BWgoGUc

I have been to owerri and I didn't observe same pattern like it is in other states of the east. But one thing l for sure and a statement of fact, you cannot find bungalow. If you do, then its a government low income residential scheme. Like world bank estate and the likes

It is from a storey building rising to 3,4 or 5. But not as much as it is in anambra,abia and Enugu.

Same aba, even though not too pleasant a view with regards roads and enviroment, my attention is the multistorey residential pattern to butress my support for the argument,that eastern Nigeria has the highest concentration of multistorey buildings in the whole of sub Saharan African

This is Aba

Aba too has similar pattern

Ignore the ipobs and check the building patterns

This is enugu

More of enugu multi storey residential pattern

This is Enugu residential property development pattern for middle class/ low class

Just take note of their property development pattern.

It is common knowledge that having a high population density with limited land space, people will naturally develop their properties intensively. Similar pattern has been adopted even in Lagos especially in Igbo dominated areas of lagos and even outside Igbo dominated areas, if you check most landlords who owns most of the multi storey buildings,they are usually Igbos. A developmental practice they imported from the east.

In fact,some Yoruba developers will tell you igbos taught us how to build storey buildings. And the new practice now in the absence of space/land. Some igbos go into agreement with stubborn Yoruba landlords who refuse to sell their house for redevelopment. The igbos go into agreement with them to let them fall the old house, rebuild it to multistorey, afterwards the down floor or topmost floor is given to the Yoruba landlord as the cos of land. Hence the Yoruba landlord has no say on the other stories, in the building.

Am a practitioner in the estate management and development field and also studied estate management. So yes, I can speak with authority on such issues.

1wolex85:
Did this guy just say there are more high rise residential buildings in Anambra compared to Lagos? chai! wonders shall never end

I suggest its better to do more research on that..personally, I won't speak for anambra but as someone who grew up in the east generally(port Harcourt to be specific) I can confidently tell you that south east has the highest concentration of multistorey residential building if not in sub Saharan Africa, then west Africa.,with Anambra,Enugu and Abia leading the park.

This is Onitsha in anambra

This girl keeps breaking boundaries...God bless her for me..i so love her


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRoeaGq0vaw

zenmaster:
From a book by G.T. Basden : "Among the Ibos of the Niger"

The Bible is for the Jews and not for the Jewish people
God is dealing with the Israelites and not with the Israeli

Jew. - descendant of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob
Jewish - pretaining to be Jew

Israelites - descendant of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob
Israeli - descendants of khazar empire, who migrated in Israel in 1948

Who are the true Israelites according to prophesy in the Bible ?
Moses lay down a prophesy that will identify the true Israelites that the Bible is all about


This is how to identify the true Israelites KJV only

Deuteronomy 28:68
68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with (ships) by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be (sold) unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

Exodus 20:2
2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

Egypt is referred as , the house of bondage, a place of suffering. So the lord was simply telling our forefathers that if in future, they do not obey all these commandments, he will bring them into a place of suffering �slavery� again with �ships� and they shall be � sold � as slaves men and women

So which nation of people or race of people went into slavery (bondage) with (ships) and were (sold) as bondsmen and bond women (slaves men and slave women) according to the bible and history

Did Nigeria, Cameroon, Liberian, Togo, Sierra Leon, Ghana, Burkina Faso, Gambia, Ivory Coast, e.t.c and the rest of west African country went into slavery with ships and were sold as slaves ?? Yes, the blacks American, the blacks Brazilians, e.t.c ?? Did they go into slavery with ships and were sold as slaves ?? Yes

Deuteronomy 28:46
46 And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.

So, we are the Israelites that the Bible speak according to
King James Version 1611 .
We are the Israelites , the God chosen people .

Amos 9;7
7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the LORD. Have not I brought up Israel out of the land of Egypt? and the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir?

So the Israelites that came out of slavery in Egypt are like the Ethiopians, are the Ethiopians white people ?? No. No. No


The little cap on their heads, what does that signify?
Where is that commanded by the lord in the Bible ??

The cloth they rap on their body , what does that signify ?
where is that commanded by the lord , ??

Proverbs 3:5
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

Alcatraz001:
Yada, yada, yada Igbo's are God's own people and ya'all are involved in the most despicable of crimes and alaigbo is still a shithole witnessing massive emigration of skilled human capital. Just another thread opened to beat your hairy chests! Next!

what is your problem with igbo people..why the hate and bitterness?

!) Igbos are the only tribe in Nigeria that answer names that are of God. like their chukwu names ..eg Nwachukwu meaning child of God, Ikechukwu meaning Armour of God

2) I heard there is a place in Enugu where they answer umuala eligwe, meaning children of heaven...well a friend of mine told me that, i dont know how true it is Igbos from Enugu can help me confirm that.

3) They still practice ' Osu ' just like in the bible. Others tribe use it to bash igbos not knowing that they are bashing the direct descendant of Abraham who himself and his descendants practiced Osu. Many Christians don't know that everything about igbo tradition is in the first five books of the bible.. Igbo tradition and religion followed Abrahamic codes from circumcision to marriage to burial to inheritance. They naturally practiced Judaism before the white men came with Christianity.

4) Again in the Jewish torah which is equivalent to the christian bible, the description of jesus in it was that of a black man. Judaism is older than Christianity mind you..

5) If King Solomon was black and of Jewish descent and the Ethiopian Jews are blacks and the Egyptian Nubians who still exist till this moment are blacks why cant the biblical Hebrew Jews be lack too?


6) when the white men came,they noticed it and documented it and then tried to destroy and erase igbo history by telling them they have no history..But with enlightenment, exposure and available information, the igbos are aggressively getting to know more about their history, where they came from and redefining themselves religiously and culturally.


7)Americans calm to be God's own country. They are spiritually linked to the jews and was built on the labour of hebrews who were blacks and jews(igbos). Igbos,efiks and ibibios made up 60% of the all the black slaves taken to America through the bight of biafra. Infact igbo slaves were the most expensive and value(in this context, i am using igbo to represent igbos,efiks, ibibios and some ijaws because then it was the Portuguese who sold their slaves to the Americas and sold them as ibo because igbos were the majority). The Portuguese were already selling slaves 400hundred years before Britain discovered that part of the world. igbo slaves where seen as superior. That is why you see a lot of black American slangs emanated from Nigeria.

eg Nigeria was named after nigger area. Ebony was derived from Ebo, it was used to differentiate the red ebo( which were the fair one).


The fourth picture is an ancient Nsibidi writing used by the igbos, efiks and ibibios, in it also is the star of david symbol..It should also be noted that some of us ibibios also trace our migration too from isreal and we, efiks and igbos are the only natural fair people the white men saw when they came to this part of the world. they never imagine that very fair almost as white as them lived in africa.

I heard there is a place in Enugu where they answer umuala eligwe, meaning children of heaven...How true is it?

just like their chukwu names like nwachukwu meaning child of God,

They also practice ' Osu ' just like in the bible. Others tribe use it to bash igbos not knowing that they are tunting the direct descendant of Abraham who himself and his descendants practiced Osu.

Many Christians don't know that everything about igbo tradition is in the first five books of the bible.. Igbo tradition and religion followed Abrahamic codes. They naturally practiced Judaism before the white men came with Christianity.


Even when the white men came they noticed it and documented it and then tried to destroy and erase igbo history by telling them they have no history..But with enlightenment, exposure and available information, the igbos are aggressively getting to know more about their history, where they came from and redefining themselves religiously and culturally.

my grand mom is igbo, so i have igbo blood in me and am always fascinated about them.

Why does Ghanaian media portray Christabel Ekeh as Ghanaian despite having a Nigerian father?

i just noticed that most times she is always portrayed as Ghanaian. She grew up and schooled in Ghana and made her inroad into Ghanaian entertain industry does not make her Ghanaian.

this is the same way they claim Mr Eazi and Chinyere Yvonne Okoro, despite their Nigerianess both in name and culture.

I dont see Nigerians claim victoria Kimani despite spending most of her life here in Nigeria...

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