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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 2:57pm On Oct 20, 2016
When Jose beat Chelsea Jose Mourinho returns to Stamford Bridge for only the second time as an opposition manager when Manchester United face Chelsea on Super Sunday . Here, we recall how he knocked the Blues out of the Champions League on his way to lifting the trophy with Inter Milan in 2010. "Nothing special." That was how Jose Mourinho described the draw for the last 16 of the Champions League in December 2009, when Inter Milan were paired with his former club Chelsea. The Portuguese insisted he would treat the game like any other, but his attempts to downplay the occasion fell on deaf ears. It was a little over two years since his acrimonious departure from Stamford Bridge, and it would be his first trip back to the stadium he called home for three glorious seasons between 2004 and 2007, when he steered the Blues to two Premier League titles, an FA Cup and two League Cups. It was a mouth-watering tie, and Mourinho's frosty relationship with Carlo Ancelotti only added to the spectacle. The pair had locked horns during Ancelotti's time in charge of Inter's rivals AC Milan in the previous season, and the lead-up to the first leg was dominated by talk of their rivalry. Just a few days previously, Mourinho had been fined and banned for three Serie A games after making handcuff gestures as two of his players were sent off during a goalless draw with Sampdoria. It was not the first time he had courted controversy since taking over at Inter, and his antagonistic behaviour was winning few friends outside of the club. Ancelotti insisted "the whole of Italy" would be cheering for Chelsea, and Italian newspaper La Repubblica carried a similar message: "Many hoped he would bring some maturity and culture to our football, but instead we are going backwards As the storm raged around their manager, however, Inter's players embraced the siege mentality. The Italian giants had drawn their previous three games in Serie A, but there was no sign of sluggishness when Chelsea came to the San Siro in February 2010. Just three minutes had passed when Diego Milito eluded John Terry and fired a low shot inside Petr Cech's near post. Mourinho nodded his head in satisfaction. It was a perfect start for Inter, but Chelsea equalised through Salomon Kalou early in the second half. Inter rallied quickly, though, with Esteban Cambiasso scoring what turned out to be the decisive goal just a few minutes later when he rifled home a diagonal shot after his original effort had been blocked by Branislav Ivanovic. Chelsea were left to rue what had looked like a clear penalty when Kalou was brought down by Walter Samuel before the break, but Inter celebrated their 2-1 win before Mourinho turned his attentions to the second leg at the stadium where he didn't lose a single league game between 2004 and 2007. "I will have to control my emotions there and be professional," Mourinho said. "I will go back to a different dressing room and dugout, but they will know that normally Mourinho is lucky at Stamford Bridge. I have nothing to prove to Chelsea, to Chelsea's players, to Chelsea's fans, to Chelsea's board. The relations are great. Will I be booed? I don't believe I will be. I will be clapped.'' Mourinho takes his seat in the away dugout before kick off Mourinho was afforded a warm welcome by Chelsea supporters, pausing to sign autographs on the sidelines before kick off, but the mood soured as soon as the action got underway. Mourinho was an animated figure on the touchline, engaging in a running feud with the fourth official as his side made their presence felt on the field. The hosts struggled to find a way through Inter's formidable backline of Maicon, Lucio, Samuel and Javier Zanetti, and tempers frayed with every niggling foul as Inter sought to slow the game down. Chelsea's best chances came in a frantic period before the break, with Nicolas Anelka going close and Didier Drogba denied a penalty when he appeared to be hauled down by Samuel. Mourinho relays instructions to Javier Zanetti and Esteban Cambiasso [b] Mourinho's game plan centred around frustrating Ancelotti's side, but there was attacking intent too. Milito was flanked by Samuel Eto'o and Goran Pandev, who pinned back Chelsea's full- backs Ivanovic and Yuri Zhirkov and offered a considerable threat on the counter-attack. Inter looked increasingly menacing as the second half wore on, with Milito spurning a golden opportunity before Eto'o killed the tie with a clinical finish from Wesley Sneijder's pass 12 minutes from time. Chelsea's frustration boiled over when Drogba was sent off for a stamp on Motta. Mourinho had got his tactics just right. The former Chelsea manager revealed he had watched the first leg seven times in preparation for the return game, and Ancelotti admitted Inter were deserving winners.
"Tonight, [Chelsea's players] felt immediately that Inter were the best team and this brings frustration to great players," said Mourinho. "These are my players, my people but today I was the enemy and the enemy won. I celebrated a lot in the dressing room. It was a big victory for my team. I love Chelsea, I love this stadium, I love these people but I am a professional."[/b] Mourinho's career has taken twists and turns since that night, but he returns to Stamford Bridge on Super Sunday with another chance to make his point. Chelsea supporters will hope it doesn't evoke memories of the last time he took his seat in the away dugout. www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/10623772/when-jose-beat-chelsea
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 2:38pm On Oct 20, 2016
Jurgen Klopp and his Liverpool players salute The
Kop after a 2-2 draw with West Brom last
season
Reacting in such a manner to a point against
West Brom was derided by critics, yet Klopp
insisted that was merely a consequence of his
admiration for every team in the Premier League.
"The differences between the Premier League and
all the other leagues in world football is that
(there are) big individual qualities in all of
these teams," said Klopp. "I think we all know
the reason for it and that's the big difference.
"Nobody will go through and have at the end
120 points or something because there are a lot
of difficult hurdles to jump over and West Brom
is for sure one of them. They fight for every
point.
"I respect them all and I showed it last year
when we played West Brom. I celebrated the
point and it was a little bit surprising for most
of the people but I was happy.
Jurgen Klopp has backed goalkeeper Loris Karius
after criticism of his form at the start of his
Liverpool career.
"I don't know in this moment if I would
celebrate a draw again, it depends on the game
we play on Saturday. Everything's possible."
Klopp confirmed his Liverpool squad came through
Monday's goalless draw with Manchester United
unscathed.
Jurgen Klopp expects Georginio Wijnaldum to be
fit to face West Brom
Midfielder Georginio Wijnaldum returned to
training on Wednesday after missing the game
with a hamstring injury sustained while on
international duty.
Klopp said: "There is nothing to really moan
about. A few kicks and things like this in the
game, after the game, but nobody is ruled out
and Gini is on the way back.
"If nothing happens today or tomorrow, we have
a big squad."
www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/10624581/jurgen-klopp-expects-west-brom-to-pose-a-stiff-test-for-liverpool
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 2:15pm On Oct 20, 2016
nateevs:
Who says Jose doesn't need time? The question is what will come of the time he has?
As you are questioning what will come out of the time, it is also the same way that other people are questioning what will come out of pep's time.
Even at that, mou have proven at different clubs that with time he can bring success.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 2:10pm On Oct 20, 2016
raumdeuter:
So why did you think the owners of City decided to sack those 2 coaches and do everything possible to get Pep
i think they want to win something outside England.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 1:47pm On Oct 20, 2016
nateevs:
And logic suggests that tutored by the grand master himself, its only matter of time before they master it. It will be a combination tactical training and transfer of the ideal players to get it right. When he does eventually, most people will come up with a new story.
now you want pep to be given time, but you don't want to give mou time. Is that not hate?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 1:46pm On Oct 20, 2016
nateevs:
And logic suggests that tutored by the grand master himself, its only matter of time before they master it. It will be a combination tactical training and transfer of the ideal players to get it right. When he does eventually, most people will come up with a new story.
now you want pep to be given time, but you don't want to give mou time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 1:36pm On Oct 20, 2016
nateevs:
What does it matter fella? Did they get a medal for losing 2-1, 3-1 that they missed on yesterday? So why are you pushing this agenda? So what if they lost 4-0?

The fact is, eventually, Pep with his style, will achieve much more with City than they would ever be able to match in their history - long term picture.

So what's the problem?
This one na your own talk. Don’t forget that man city were champions league semi-finalists last season and have won the league under both mancini and pellegrini.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 10:23am On Oct 20, 2016
raumdeuter:
Before DiMatteo was sacked the owner had no trust in him. The manager just won the CL and Chelsea didnt even want to give him a 2yr contract probably because he won it in a way that was unappealing
wad he sacked for winning the CL in an unappealing way or was he sacked for not getting good results the following season while trying to play beautiful football?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 10:20am On Oct 20, 2016
nateevs:
How many times has City been there before? How did they play? Did they win? Were they not playing conservatively?
the score line yesterday was 4-0. Check that.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 10:18am On Oct 20, 2016
Tomorrow they will say that penalty is awoof, yet the big boys keep missing it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 10:03am On Oct 20, 2016
nateevs:
But what exactly is tactical flexibility? Most times, it is not limited to an individual's understanding. Perhaps tactical flexibility is understanding that instead of playing a striker against Barcelona, I play an extra midfielder to crowd the midfield and prevent Barcelona from keeping possession. Thereby allowing us to stand a better chance of winning the game.

The difference is in mentality. Pep was going there with a mindset of 'WINING'; different from what all you are suggesting - a mindset of 'NOT LOSING' losing.

What's to say you are right and Pep is wrong? Give us the stats of the number of teams that have gone there, parking the bus, and not lost.
playing conservatively and parking the bus are not the same thing. It doesn't mean that playing conservatively means playing not to lose, but it means balancing the equation.


Don’t forget that the last four times Chelsea went there, they came back with a result.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 9:58am On Oct 20, 2016
raumdeuter:
When you are at an elite club you want your team to run over opponents everyday. When Mourinho was winning ugly with Chelsea and even with Madrid the owners were complaining and just waiting for the slight mistake to fire him

Same thing happened with Di Matteo, he won the CL yet no one believed in him and many including his own club people felt he was just lucky

If Pep and Simeone had indicated interest in the same club, who do you think they will hire Pep or Simeone
i don't know why you keep mentioning di matteo as if he was sack for playing defensively. The season after winning the champions league, we all saw the type of football he played and what the club owner said he wanted.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 8:29am On Oct 20, 2016
I respect pep and his work, no doubt. But, he should learn how to make his team dynamic and flexible. I hate it when someone is just stubborn for nothing.
Even wenger has learnt some lessons from his experience in England. He now knows how to close space and not leave his yansh open when the time calls for it.
It is not like pep can not tighten up at the back, because he did it against Manchester United in the league. I don't know why he can't just do the same after going a man down against Barca. Had it been he tighten a little at the back, maybe they would have started fighting again when Barca got their own red.
Well, that is by the way.
Why is no one talking about how sterling sent a player out within few minutes?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 8:00am On Oct 20, 2016
raumdeuter:
if only Mourinho can qualify to face the current Madrid, we might be able to see how easy your hypothesis is
why don't you check how players that mou have coached have fared whenever they played against his team.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 1:36am On Oct 20, 2016
To be honest, I don't understand how a coach that coached a club for four years can't find a way to nullify the same players he coached and yet
they term him the best Tactician. I honestly don't get it. Can't pep just find a way to stop messi from continuously disgracing him? Nawao
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 1:20am On Oct 20, 2016
I said it here that pep will put bravo in trouble with this his pass-the-ball madness; now it has happened.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 12:53am On Oct 20, 2016
Nihilist:
Once you're a goal and a man down against Barca, it's practically over.

And Pep cannot be expected to account for the utter stewpidty of Bravo when formulating his tactics.

I say go to the Barca thread and see where Barca fans were openly musing if they had a midfield during the match.

Bravo killed city today, aided and abetted by John Stones
don't forget what Chelsea did in 2012. Just wanted to remind you. Nothing else.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 12:52am On Oct 20, 2016
raumdeuter:
He is really getting that result thats why he is currently 5th in the table and Pep first. Remember both started on 0 points the same day
okay nah. The end justifies the means.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 11:05pm On Oct 19, 2016
Beautiful football my foot. Look at how pep just disgraced himself. Tomorrow they will be calling him the best Tactician, yet he can't find a way to nullify the players he coached for four years.
When mou will be getting his results, they will be calling it anti-football.
It was not this bad under pellegrini.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 7:13am On Oct 17, 2016
Ibimte:
Hazard is just as visionless as every other Chelsea mugu on the pitch, until we start begging Conte to bring on Fabregas to release some through balls.
lekwa ya
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 7:01am On Oct 17, 2016
There are things that are debatable about hazard's game and ablilities. But, for ibime, who claims to be a chelsea fan, who sees chelsea matches week in week out to say that hazard is a "visionless mugu", hmm, his claim of being a chelsea fan should be questioned.
That statement got me confused and i began to wonder what it really meant to have vision as a footballer. Seriously, i would like to know what it really means, that is, a detailed explanation of that term in relation to football.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m):
Ibime:
Address me directly friend. I don't like ninjas carrying resentment in their chest.

This is what I don't like about Hazard fanboys and that is celebration of mediocrity

Is 44 goals in 4.5 years something to write home about? 9 of them are even penalties. How many top AMs were active 4.5 years ago? Name one regular starting AM at Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, Liverpool, Man Utd and Man City from 4.5 years ago till now.

Alexis Sanchez is already on 33 goals in half that timeframe. I expect any top AM with consistent run in the side to reach that figure in 3 years. Lampard would do it in two.
firstly, I don't have any resentment towards anybody.
Secondly, if you re-read the post you quoted, you will see that it says something about "visionless".
Wait, Are you saying that hazard is a mediocre?
Do you still hold the belief that he is visionless?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 9:01pm On Oct 16, 2016
ariano10:
Hazard the real deal Bleep the haters
A certain chelsea fan says he is visionless. Don't let him....
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 10:37pm On Oct 15, 2016
All i can say is that we played really well and the tactics really worked. It was as if Hazard was playing as a second striker, which made him and costa difficult to contain.

Well, I will have to wait till next week and see how we will play with this formation and tactics before I..
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 7:14am On Oct 15, 2016
Hazard: I want No 10 role
Eden Hazard does not believe Chelsea will change their style to allow him to play in his preferred No 10 role. The Belgian started both of his country's World Cup Qualifiers in his preferred central position over the international break, scoring in their two fixtures. Antonio Conte has opted to deploy the 25-year- old on the left-hand side for Chelsea though, and Hazard indicated Belgium's set-up is more suited to his playing style. "I like to play as a No 10," Hazard told the Daily Mail . "I think I have more freedom offensively. For Belgium, we have full-backs who run hard and create a lot of space, which is good and I like to play there." Chelsea host champions Leicester City - live on Sky Sports 1 - as the Premier League returns this weekend, and despite Hazard's international success in the No 10 role, he doubts his club side would adapt in order to suit him. "I don't know if I will play there at Chelsea," Hazard added. "You need to ask the manager! I play on the left hand side and I try to do the best I can.
"It's true I like to play as a 10. Sometimes at Chelsea we don't play with system with a No 10, too. I don't think Chelsea wants to change just for me (to play) as a 10. I did well in the past as a left winger and for now, I am trying to get back to that best again."
Family › Re: Introverts Lounge (Extroverts Pls Keep Off !!) by Greatihex(m): 2:27pm On Oct 12, 2016
My own result.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 1:15pm On Oct 12, 2016
donjazet:
I want to believe you don't really mean that. Last season was his best in a season at Chelsea, what was his output. Apart from his 6 free kicks last season, he scored only 6 goals from open play. That should sum it up!!. He is not very creative neither is he clinical. Chelsea deserves better.
Despite willian nt giving us what we want, carrasco has nt proven to be better than him. This is someone that is nt sure of starting a match in both his country and club. He looks to me like an inconsistent player, an oscar type of player (my opinion though).
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 1:14pm On Oct 12, 2016
Nihilist:
Obviously the context was in comparison to Carrasco.

That being said, the underlying Stats do not lie. Right now Willian is doing a pretty good job given the circumstances.

Obviously we should always look for a better player, but you would have to be pretty spectacular to be better than Willian in this current team.
this is just the truth.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 1:14pm On Oct 12, 2016
donjazet:
I want to believe you don't really mean that. Last season was his best in a season at Chelsea, what was his output. Apart from his 6 free kicks last season, he scored only 6 goals from open play. That should sum it up!!. He is not very creative neither is he clinical. Chelsea deserves better.
Despite willian nt giving us what we want, carrasco has nt proven to be better than him. This is someone that is nt sure of starting a match in both his country and club. He looks to me like an inconsistent player, an oscar type of player (my opinion though).
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 12:21am On Oct 11, 2016
bigkesh:
Never say never....Conte has shown he can be obsessed with his targets

We made crazy bids for Morata and Radja,imagine what he could do to get a trusted Italian
that kind of deal can never happen.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 8:21am On Oct 10, 2016
Nihilist:
Lmao

No sane board would sanction such an exchange...

Garbage news.
the way this bonocci rumuor dey go, you go begin wonder whether the guy na second coming of messi. Imagine giving them cesc plus €50m. Just imagine!

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