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Bimffo

That is Terry marking Cahill actually. Not the other way round...lol

But Terry's eye is at the ball so he didn't know it was Cahill. He thought is was Thiago Silva.

But Cahill, being a useless player he is, is facing his goal. Who does that?? Only useless defenders! lol.

laugh no dey finish for my mouth any day i see this picture. Them really Bleep up for there, but it doesn't make terry less a legend in the game.

Bimffo:
I have not seen where I mentioned that Pedro is more creative than Hazard and Fabregas. But its Monday morning, so you may be rushing for work and not understand what I meant.

But if you actually think Hazard did something on Saturday, then all the best for you o. I mean, all the Best!

where did I say he did something. Even without doing much, they were still better than pedro.

bigkesh:
4-4-2

Azpi- Terry -Luiz -Alonso
Chalobah- Kante
Moses- Michy- Costa- Hazard



Lock the shop all the way till January......Moses and Hazard on the counter

Hazard doesn't give Full backs headache again,since he likes drifting to the middle he should be moved to the right and Let Moses' pace and directness really help on the left
Michy and Costa with the goals,Michy just needs to finish better

Chalobah,Alonso and hopefully Zouma will go a long way in improving the defence

And to think Lewis Baker would have easily solved our midfield problems....more defensive than fabregas and contributes way more with the ball than Oscar and Matic



This is our best team.....Nothing less

we should all know by now that hazard doesn't do much from the right. He will just be wasting there. Alonso on the other hand have not impressed me on the attacking aspect. Against Leicester city, he wasn't helping pedro with dangerous runs and movements down the left. His crosses from the left could easily be counted. He is yet to convince me, but he should still start instead of iva.

Those of you rushing to quote me, Bimffo and co should go and re-read my post. I never said they don't track back, but they do less of it because they are always in possession of the ball; something that has to do with their system of play.
After all their teams have still conceded goals because they were unable to track back, yet they won the matches because they outscored their opponents. What is the cause? They had greater emphasis on attack than defence.
You all know what i am driving at, but because I like hazard and he was mentioned, you guys now think I was making the statement to protect him, even when it is true.

raumdeuter:
All the people clamoring for their clubs to get them as the ideal footballers. What would have happened?

Same thing when Moyes Martinez and Fellaini were mini gods in Everton and some big team supporters want them to replace their coaches or players

There is probably a reason they're at west ham and Leicester in the first place.

SOme Chelsea fans are already suggesting some of their players be thrown away for some lesser ones

this is the first time I would love your contribution for our matter.

lalaboi:
Kante is just 1 person and he wasnt the only one hwo had a bad game.. Infact, all the goals could have been avoided.

How about mentioning that Hazard was supposed to track bellerin for the goal and it is not the first time he has let that kind of thing happen.

Cahill? Dont even get me started.

Cahill and Luiz pairing for the 3rd goal?.

It just annoys me to see peeps like Dayo troll us when some people mentioned Cahill in the same bracket as Boateng, it makes Dayo seem like a semi god.

They said we asked for defenders, they bought us play station David. and we are stuck with the mofoka for atleast 2 - 3 years.


Top 4 or nothing for conte. Nothing like title contenders this season.

how many times does. Messi track back in Barcelona, how many times does neymar track back, yet they keep winning. Why don't we study their style and trying something close. We are too defensive for goodness sake.

Those shouting bin this player and that player, this, that; should know that all eleven players on the pitch in a club like Chelsea cannot be useless.
We don dey shout name of other people players like say them better pass our own forgetting that a good system allows a player to thrive. We should start looking into the system and less on the players. Cuadrado was shining before we bought him, now look at how he did at Chelsea. The same thing with salah, Moses. The list is endless.
Person dey shout, bring Aubu this and that, forgetting that a certain mykitaryan is at man utd and can't get a shirt.
Bring Aubu into this same Chelsea team, we would still lost against arsenal. The system is the problem. Roman should calm down and give a good coach time to build and most importantly give him the things he asks for. Finish.

Bimffo:
So, you were expecting the manager not to make changes?

If You don't believe we had more chances when he made those subs, then I will just ignore the talks with You.

We didn't have 1 shot on target for 70 minutes. 1 shot! Says a lot about the kind of creative players we have.

we created more chances before they came in; that they were not on target is a different thing. Oga, Pedro can never be more creative than Fabregas and hazard. Accept the fact.

Imagine willian walking off the pitch majestically when his team is losing by three goals. Is he supposed to be running?
Imagine arsenal marking the ball more than Chelsea, defending better than Chelsea, with wonderful discipline.
Imagine arsenal not leaving any spaces.
Arsenal were simply more prepared than Chelsea. Seems like the six hours of no-goal against Chelsea finally got to them and then complacency got up with Chelsea because of their previous results with arsenal.
Arsenal na our wife enter their head.

Bimffo:
Sorry, who are those 3 most creative players? And what tangible did they do before they were substituted?

Actually I saw Pedro than I saw any of those you will Mention..

The only person that started the match and walked off that pitch with his Ego and image intact is Diego..

Others?

what did the once that came in do? How many chances did we create after then?

Conte is known for playing two strikers, what is holding him from playing it.

Imagine subbing your three most creative players when losing 3 - 0, I don't know what the plan is. What was he thinking pedeo will do for him?

Sack conte already, he has no tactics and style.

Ibime, congrats. I can't imagine the the feeling of having a baby, but I believe one day I will understand.

Reason why Chelsea have not been very creative this season is because Fabregas that has a very good understanding of how hazard plays has not been playing.
The both have a very good partnership. Just like how hazard had with mata

nateevs:
See common sense! This is not available to many. What is the point comparing both players? Completely different elements.




Meanwhile, once upon a time, one dude like this had both players in his team. Could have built anything he wanted. He could not see beyond his defensive blocks, sold one of them and turned the other into a full-time sprinter on the counter.

When I was complaining about the "method of play" over and over, dem say I dey write epistle. You cannot build a dynasty when your first approach to football is preventing the opposition from playing.

I dey vex ehn?

it seems like this thing is beginning to make more sense. We really need to look into our style of play as a club so that we can hire the right coaches for the job.

dmcdad:
Truth be told... He was a complete flop in the world cup. Make we see truth talk am na. Euros? That's a different kettle of fish.

it is true that he was a flop at the world cup. But, judging from some of the stats that he's got; which raumdeuter uses to judge him always, what do we now say concerning stats?
Remember, his two assists were match winning assists in two different games and it helped them qualify for the next round.

lordfalcao:
you see in his first season as you claimed he scored 10 goals, that is one double digits in 4-5 years. went to several loan he couldn't even break into any of it's 1st eleven.. and can't even score upto 10. and you said he should bench willian, guy no talk this thing again.. The only player that can offer us enough goal this season is Costa, batshuayi and Pedro or maybe hazard. victor Moses is shit Biko.

i have never said that Moses can bench Willian. I was trying to Chelseafan1 and co. that Moses has it in numbers than willian, but Willian brings other things to the table that Moses doesn't.

Chelseafan1:
Kindly educate me briefly, what is the meaning of those different types of passes.
Key passes
Pass completion
Attack score
Successful passes.

add forward passes and percentage passes completed in the attacking third too. I need to be clarified

raumdeuter:
Shey na by number of appearance or na by output? Hazard has more appearance than KdB yet the output is not there.

Hazard went to a world cup and was one of the flop of the tournament

flop of a tournament wey collect two assists and two man of matches. I wonder o.

bigkesh:
There is nothing Willian brings to the table that Musa can't
Moses is on the bench for Willian because this club is in the hands of clueless people
Willian is better than Schurrle but not Moses....We prefer donkeys to ballers

Matic is playing ahead of Chalobah and Fabregas because he is taller than them........in 2016 ooo

did you just say that mou, conte and Rodgers are all clueless?

lordfalcao:
Moses offers the same output as willian.. this two are very poor in output. infact willians entire football career he has never scored 8goals a whole season. same can be said as Moses, he is not a winger that gives double digit goals, if you trace back to his goal scoring chart the only time he might have done that will be way back when he was in wigan.

The only wingers out of our four wingers than can give us double goals and assist is PEDRO. unfortunately he is not starting.

in case you have forgotten, moses scored 10 goals in his first full season at Chelsea, despite playing lesser number of matches when compared to willian.
But Willian has only scored double digits just last season since he came to Chelsea. The season that happened to be his best season.

Ibime:
My friend you ain't saying nothing.

The same DeBruyne went to Germany and took player of the year in the presence of Muller, Lewandowski, Robben, Aubameyang and co.

Dem never dash Hazard vision to pass ball where DeBruyne dey.

The same Payet and DeBruyne when stationed on the left wing easily cut in time and time again, open up the pitch and release instant through passes, something we hardly ever see Hazard do.

They are not mates in passing in this life or the next.

did you care to check their through balls rating?
How many of such awards does he have? How many has he even been nominated for. Even the year he won the said award, hazard still ranked ahead of him in the ballon d'or.
If you check that of neymar's, you will find out that he has more through passes, but lesser key passes. Now i am confused.

Ibime:
Click on the passing tab, scroll down to the bottom of the page and tell me DeBruynes key passes per game vs Hazard. (3 vs 2.2)

Hazard and Willian doing harmless and visionless dribble and give, dribble and give all match does not mean they pass better. It just means they are visionless. You might as well pull up Mikels give I give pass rate of 94% and tell me he is a better passer.

Every DeBruyne pass is a through pass on goal or a release into space. They could be intercepted or they could go through to the goalkeeper.

That is why he makes more key passes and why he would have beat Premierleague assist record last season (in his first full season) if not for injury

You must be trying to troll comparing Hazard to DeBruyne in passing. The only Chelsea player that can even be considered next to DeBruyne in passing is Fabregas, and he is Hazard's Lord and Saviour in that aspect.

Hazard is just as visionless as every other Chelsea mugu on the pitch, until we start begging Conte to bring on Fabregas to release some through balls.

i wonder how this visionless mugu keeps winning individual awards in the presence of the ones with vision. This is the greatest misery of life o. How come he keeps getting into the team of the year and winning awards upon awards since his early age, yet, those with vision can't win same awards even when they still play in the same league and team. It is really a big misery to unravel. Can you please help me to unravel this?

Wait o, neymar must be visionless too if it is so.

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/50835/History/Neymar

Ibime:
You must be on drugs!

how. Please tell me.

Ibime:
Be precise and to the point. Let me know what you are disputing.

passing. Even in his worst season, he still had a better pass success. It is obvious that last season affected his overall stats.

Ibime:
Where was DD when Anelka was winning UCL with Madrid in 2000?

Where was Zidane when Seedorf and Davids were bossing UCL final in 1995?

I was here first no be property.

There is nothing Hazard does better than De Bruyne in 2016 except dribbling.

Decision making is not close.

Vision is not close

Passing is not close

Crossing is not close

Shooting and finishing is not close

Physicality is not close

Hard work/running km per game is not close

Intelligence is not close

Not sure in what aspect of football a non sentimental person would call their name together to compare them.

if I prove you wrong in at least one of those things you mentioned, I will take it that others are false.
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/73084/History/Kevin-De-Bruyne

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/33404/History/Eden-Hazard

raumdeuter:
Shey na by number of appearance or na by output? Hazard has more appearance than KdB yet the output is not there.

Hazard went to a world cup and was one of the flop of the tournament

how will someone with the output not get the appearance? Abi coach blind ni?
Moses with his superior output to willian's still seats on the bench. Schurrle with his output was still pushed out of the team by the same willian. There is something that he brings to the table that others can't.

Ibime:
Im sure you didn't watch World Cup 2014.

Next time you see a Belgian, ask em who is the King of Belgium.

De Bruyne - 13 goals and 19 assists in 48 Belgium matches (32 goal contribution)

Hazard - 14 goals and 18 assists in 73 Belgium matches (32 goal contribution)

Do the math yourself.

both are the same age, where was kdb when hazard was getting 73 appearances for belgium?

raumdeuter:
Which Hazard was taking penalties when Lampard was around? I remember cos that time Torres fans were always arguing here that Lampard was taking all the penalties and not allowing MAZACAR

I can only remember Hazard taking 1 penalty when Lampard was on the field and that was because Hazard has scored 2 goals and was on a hat trick

do you agree that he is one of the best in the game and aguero is nothing close to him in that aspect.

raumdeuter:
Hazard first 62 games for Chelsea 13 goals 24 goals

Now compare

Corners and freekick have defenders in front of you, Penalty just you facing the keeper

If Hazard was in a team with Aguero, he wont even get near to penalties and lose more than 30% of his goals

you dey fall hand o. Who is aguero when it comes to penalties? Aguero no fit clean lampard shoes when it comes to penalties, yet hazard was taking penalties when lampard was around.
For your info. Hazard is one of the best penalty takers in the game. You can make your research.
There is high pressure when it comes to taking penalties and there are few penalty chances in a match.
Hazard's 13 goals and 24 assists got him a pfa player of the season nomination and a place in the pfa team of the season. The same cannot be said for kdb. Mind you, Chelsea didn't win the league that season o.

The performance was a throw-back to last
season's malaise when Chelsea suffered
shell-shock after conceding an early goal
and they never really recovered.
Liverpool focused on stopping Eden
Hazard, while Costa became isolated as
their midfield was bullied and they lost
the ball high up the pitch.
m.goal.com/s/en-ng/news/4055/main/2016/09/16/27606302/chelsea-worryingly-bad-in-defeat-by-liverpool-as-conte


Guys, what do you say?

The performance was a throw-back to last
season's malaise when Chelsea suffered
shell-shock after conceding an early goal
and they never really recovered.
Liverpool focused on stopping Eden
Hazard, while Costa became isolated as
their midfield was bullied and they lost
the ball high up the pitch.
m.goal.com/s/en-ng/news/4055/main/2016/09/16/27606302/chelsea-worryingly-bad-in-defeat-by-liverpool-as-conte