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raumdeuter:
See Chelsea reasoning FFS

Do you realize that all the goals Juventus scored in the CL knockouts this season was scored by Ronaldo?

oga, argue with this


Before Ronaldo came to Juventus, they were making semis and finals, but now they are getting knocked out by bleeping Ajax.
Then tell us the common denominator

If Tottenham can knock out city, then they may have a chance at the cup

Thecassanova:
Ronaldo alone can't carry Juve, seems like Madrid and Ronaldo's relationship was a symbiotic one.

so you just dey realize now say football na team sports.

Using raumdeuter's theory. Before Ronaldo came to Juventus, they were making semis and finals, but now they are getting knocked out by fucking Ajax.

raumdeuter:
So If Ronaldo did not play will Madrid play with 10 players? Chances are that the player who replaces Ronaldo will have more than 3 assists in an entire seasson

Last season Dybala wasnt playing as a Center forward either, Higuain was

Suarez does not play with Ronaldo, he plays with Messi who is not Ronaldo Let Suarez play with peak Ronaldo and lets see his output, he wil become the winger for Ronaldo

Suarez played from the flank in liverpool for most of the season when he scored 31 goals in England. Even if Suarez play from wing, he will never post those benzema number. Unfit bale never posted it, talk more of Suarez.

raumdeuter:
Can we also say Dybala became useless the moment Ronaldo came? Benzema and Dybala 2 attackers who became useless in the presence of Ronaldo
Kane has been scoring about 25goals per season bring Ronaldo and first his 5 penalties per season disappears, Him being the target of all balls in the box and attack stops, Eriksen willstart directing his passes to Ronaldo, even training will be tailored to get Ronaldo the best passes

Messi drops into midfield and allows his strikers, Ronaldo most time will be in the box

i am not disputing your claim of Ronaldo reducing other attackers goals because i know how Ronaldo plays and what has kept him relevant over the years. But your post that i put in bold did not have Ronaldo in it.




Again, Ronaldo is the excuse for benzema's uselessness and missing of sitters. Even if Kane start playing with Ronaldo tomorrow, he will never produce those benzema's embarassing numbers. Bale that was not regular then will still be outscoring benzema.



Be sincere, Can you confidently bet that if Suarez plays with Ronaldo that he will be posting those embarassing numbers as a striker?



Lastly, your Dybala theory does not hold, because Dybala has hardly played with Ronaldo.



I don't have strength for argument now. Just stop here

raumdeuter:
That season Ronaldo provided 3 league assists for Benzema out of the 24 league goals.
How old was Benzema? 27-28yrs in 2015/16 which is close to the peak years of a footballer
Diego Costa is around the same age as Benzema compare his output in 2015/16 to last season or this season and know the effect of age on most attackers
Rooney too at 27-28 he was scoring 27 league goals by 31 6goals

If Dybala can get over 2000mins by the end of this season shows he was given relatively many minutes on the field almost similar to last yr

We dont need to compare Dybala to Benzema, the best is compare Benzema with Ronaldo to Benzema without Ronaldo. Then Dybala with Ronaldo and Dybala without Ronaldo


Its basic logic that when a heavy goal scorer gets into a team the output of others will reduce


If Ronaldo at his peak plays with Aguero, Kane Lewandski definitely their output will reduce

You cannot put 4 30goals a season striker into a team and expect them to score 120 goals, Someone has to suffer and it wont be the top dog like Ronaldo

the output may reduce, but that is not the excuse for a useless benzema. Suarez went to meet messi in barca, nothing happened to his output.

NinjaMetahuman:
500 minutes is big number in football.

by the way, what do you expect from someone that went from being a regular starter to a power sub?

one of the excuses you gave benzema when we asked what happened when he was scoring at least more than 10-15 league goals a season playing with ronaldo, you said it's because of he was still under 30.

suddenly his age doesn't matter anymore because he has scored more than 10 league goals this season. if he goes back to being his crappy self again next season, you will be here telling us about his age.

so full of excuses for players you want to blindly defend eh

don't mind him

oilPUSSY:
How's business moving ?

hi

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Lol, Henry.

Unlimited22:
I'm particularly concerned about our half time team talks. We've lost several games this season after a great first half, and a completely useless 45-60th minute performance.

you right o

FBS:
Well we had the multi talented WPoty 2046 wasting 2 clear one-on-one chances. One from Willian.

But what do we know? You guys can continue your praise and worship. If that is not uselessness then I don't know what it is. Orishirisi.

lol.
Talk true. If to say na willian miss those chances you for call am chance wasting?

Thecassanova:
There's a reason Liverpool is leading us with over 20pts rn.

Name your own starting lineup & tactics let's see if we wouldn't be 5goals down at half time. With Hazard at false 9, we've stopped city twice in 90mins this season. I wanted Pedro to start over CHO (for defensive tactics), but we all can see how CHO & RLC played below par.

Emerson was dead meat with Salah yesterday (not that Alonso will be any better). We can all see no matter the manager's selection, this team needs a complete overhaul.

it seems like you don't get my point.


Liverpool are definitely a better team than chelsea, Just like Chelsea is better than wolves. But, you can't say that there is no way the team can be set up to beat liverpool.

BTW, emerson was decent in the first half and didn't let salah until that first goal. If you watch the first half very well, Liverpool were attacking through Azpi's side using keita as extra man with mane and firmino occupying our cbs and drawing Azpi to the centre to give keita space on the flank.

Amoto94:
What irked me was the fact that before the match majority official Chelsea fans were rooting for a Liverpool win just to spite Guardiola forgetting that Tottenham are ahead of Chelsea with a game in hand, but after the game they were busy insulting Sarri and saying all sort of thrash.
This Chelsea team is spineless and lack leaders across board and this cast a doubt in their ability to lead us to Europa League glory so our attention should be focused on securing that 3rd position at the end of the season.

forget top 4. Europa looks easier to achieve ucl

Thecassanova:
There's a reason Liverpool is leading us with over 20pts rn.

Name your own starting lineup & tactics let's see if we wouldn't be 5goals down at half time. With Hazard at false 9, we've stopped city twice in 90mins this season. I wanted Pedro to start over CHO (for defensive tactics), but we all can see how CHO & RLC played below par.

Emerson was dead meat with Salah yesterday (not that Alonso will be any better). We can all see no matter the manager's selection, this team needs a complete overhaul.

it seems like you don't get my point.


Liverpool are definitely a better team than chelsea, Just like Chelsea is better than wolves. But, you can't say that there is no way the team can be set up to beat liverpool.

BTW, emerson was decent in the first half and didn't let salah until that first goal. If you watch the first half very well, Liverpool were attacking through Azpi's side using keita as extra man with mane and firmino occupying our cbs and drawing Azpi to the centre to give keita space on the flank.

iamrosheed:
Guy,you're funny o you mean this set of guys have more knowledge than our coach? , I just gree only 5% of Chelsea fans know something about football.Sarri's style of play yesterday was very simple defend in the first half and attack in the second half, if we had a good LB, Liverpool won't get those goals i wonder how you guys can't get simple things,false 9 is bad yet we won most of our big games with Eden playing as a false 9 and went on shoot outs with city with this formation......Hazard missed two sitters for crying out loud we should have shared the point yesterday even with our mistakes ....
Are you guys Hazard fans or Chelsea fans ?? Cos I don't get it

oga stop painting emerson black here. Had hazard scored those two goals would you have said liverpool don't have good cbs?

Amoto94:
Chelsea played a decent game yesterday but lost due to individual mistakes in key moments and Rudiger's injury before halftime.
Hudson-Odoi was uber useless during the large spell of the game. Sarri is right for using him sparingly throughout this season, he is talented but not worth the hype.
Loftus-Cheek was clueless tactically as he kept on losing balls in critical areas and failed to thread through balls
Hazard is Hazard he was our best player no doubt but he needs good support and also he should be releasing the ball instead of doing needless dribbling in an attacking situation.
Willian offers a lot defensively as always but his output in the final third was underwhelming.
Jorginho was responsible for the second goal he should have come out in full force and intercept the ball immediately Salah dribble past Emerson and cut into his favourite foot.
Kepa should have counted a step before diving for the second goal but overall he had a decent game.

exactly. There were mistakes on both sides just like in every game, but ours proved costly.. Overall it was a decent game. Some of us are complaining just because we lost. Had we won or drew the match, some wouldn't have noticed the mistakes.

Thecassanova:
No wailing regarding the match. We were never the favorite. Nothing sarri could’ve done to scramble a win. We can all see fans favorites CHO, RLC and Emerson play. No blame game.

Transfers & team rebuilding seriously needed.

the bold is a lie. What did he do that made us almost win in the first leg?

Unlimited22:
But no, he's the problem.

Meanwhile, the person who said Salah is just Willian part 2 is not a Chelsea fan. We know him not!!!

na so one random person go come here come make rubbish statement dem go call am chelsea fan.

KingAzubuike:
Guy there is nothing special in that Liverpool team. Asides van dijk, I don't think any of their players can make chelsea's first 11. What is working for them is morale and that's what klopp is very good at. Mane na player wey suppose dey Southampton , wolves, watford and the likes same with firmino. All those alexander Arnold and co Andrew Robertson , matip na Brighton , Huddersfield level dem be. Fabinho na everton level. Salah is just willian part two. Same style of play. The team is just in high spirit thanks to klopp. Same spirit that worked for liecester when they won the league. Klopp is a very fantastic coach that's why... Even if they lose a game you go still see am enter field set ginger the players , hug them and punching the air as if they won . thats how to be successful as a coach

the only part you made small sense in your post is the one that concerns klopp, others

KingAzubuike:
Las las morata still better pass this higuain. You don't know the value of what you have until you lose it.

both are not what we are supposed to be having in our club.

iamrosheed:
If doesn't work in football bro and can you credit Sarri for losing to a team better than his team based on "an individual mistake" or "our inability of taking our chances"?

oga, i just analyzed a game i watched.

That chelsea won man city this season, does it mean that chelsea are a better team than city?

Oga, i no get strength for argument.
Chelsea played well, but lacked clinical edge and were punished by the two defensive mistakes.

iamrosheed:
Stop this boss,false 9 worked for Chelsea earlier this season against a Guardiola led team and Guardiola used a false 9 against us which flopped badly,forget we tried Liverpool is just a better team.

liverpool are definitely better than chelsea, but they didn't win today because they are better than chelsea. They won because of those two moments of mistake. The made mistakes too, but we didn't capitalize. Had hazard converted those two chances na draw e for end.

iamrosheed:
Doing good koor doing good ni,if not for the fact that Salah was a little bit wasteful, there was a time he was jogging when Liverpool was on counter,I just kept wondering where is our left back?

Emerson will be worst if he is a regular starter

the bold is a lie.

Ibime:
With the way Arsenal flogged Napoli in Europa, that one no sure oh!

lol. Arsenal no well their own. Hope dey there. They are not even sure of dumbing out napoli self.

Dothraki:
Engineering undergraduates study old theories from Way past generation, that is of little relevance to modern engineering. The university system teach so many calculation, and almost nothing on how to apply these mathematics to solve real life problems.

Many of theories learned aren't useless jargon, since we arent taught how to praticalise most of those knowledge, 99.99% of all engineering graduate would have forgotten what they learned by the time they graduate.
We only remember what is useful to us, what help us get through, or things we do constantly. Everything else, our brain trashes it.

Its quiet disturbing Most of the engineering student only read to pass. Which makes one question, are we in school only to pass some paper? If so, modern technology would not have existed at all.
Our primary purpose of studying engineering is to apply scientific discoveries to solve practical problems in the society. But unfortunately the system only made us to study only for grade.
Without practicing what we learn our brain will eventually discard everything as useless

An average engineering graduate does not remember 90% of what he learned in five years, I tried to go through some of my jottings from 300l, i was suprised because it all seem strange to me.. i couldn't remember a thing from the calculations l did with my own hand. A friend of my who have have a very much good grade have the same experience.

Apart from the abstractions of studying engineering in nigeria, most of the curriculum is old, we spent so much time studying theories that should be thought as a mere history. No wonder there havent been any groundbreaking engineering achievement from Nigerian universities

Majority of the engineering jobs that involve applying engineering maneuver will be given to foreigners. Innoson motor employs foreigners to do All of its engineering design, our Nigerian graduate work as if they are
mere technician. Engineering graduate will never apply most of the theories they learn at school. lot of our graduate who are lucky to find job in engineering companies work as a maintenance engineer. Whenever they need new designs or innovation, they hire foreigners to do the job, this is quite sad in my opinion. They have made mockery of 5 years of lifes. Quite sad

better scam. That is why i swore not to school in Nigeria again

raumdeuter:
In the league alone
This season 1 goal vs Arsenal, 1 vs Chelsea
Last season 2 vs Arsenal, 3 spurs, 1 chelsea 1 City

you are no longer adding assists?

SkimpleD:
Between Emerson and Alonso, I just can’t deal mehn.

emerson is far better. I don't even have such doubt in my mind.

The guy was doing good today up until that first goal. Salah started have it over him after that goal.

I have said it here before. Any Chelsea fan hoping for Chelsea to qualify for ucl through the league will be disappointed. Even if we had beaten liverpool today, we would have still lost some other matches. Europe league is the only route that look possible.


Mean while, Chelsea played well today, but only lost the match due to two moments of switching off. Liverpool also switched off for those hazard two chances, but hazard missed them.


Emerson was at fault for both goals, especially the second one. He should have continued to put pressure on salah, but he let him shoot and the short man with no sense in goal could not make one step before diving to save the ball.

When are we going to have another above average or world class goalkeeper like Cech again?



Abeg, who show higuain road to Chelsea? That thing should not stay beyond next season in Chelsea. Nonsense.


In all, it is better that chelsea don't derail another team title challenge when they probably won't make top 4 themselves. Not like i even expected them to win pool.


It was a balanced match, only that they punished our mistakes, but we couldn't do same.




Hazard was just unlucky, he is not known to miss such chances

iamJ:
I knew that rudigar leaving will lead to this

would Rudiger have stopped the goal? Where was Azpi? Na him suppose dey mark that side.
Let me go and re watch the goals.

Emerson fück up for that salah goal

raumdeuter:
Hidden house of Hazard
First of his name
Breaker of waist
King of shakushaku

Today is when you make your claim to the throne

Lead your team to win today

it is a local match. Whatever he does today does not matter

oilPUSSY:
How's business moving ?

fine dear. Have you considered my request?