Christianity Etc › Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:36pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
LordReed: LoL! What a confused jumble. First off, I didn't make the videogame or the rules it follows. So you are blaming me the videogame player for the rules that the designer of the videogame made.
Second, if I were a god I would not make such a universe as we currently have. This universe is uncaring, unfeeling and spares no thought for your sensibilities. The vagaries of life could set you up for death or dismemberment the very next second. This is the universe you think your god made and you want to celebrate your blood thirsty god idea like it's the epitome of morality.
I would be a god and I would use god powers, just like the one you can't explain, that's how I'd do it. LoL. In removing the power and desire to hurt other humans why would I need to follow your bloodthirsty god's trap setting methods? Your god deliberately sets traps so that it can wreak vengeance. I wouldn't be a bloody minded god so I don't need concepts like sin and abomination. Those are traps that your god set up so that he can find a reason to destroy. I as a god wouldn't need to play such bloody games. After removing the power or desire to hurt other humans you'd be hard pressed to see what humans would do that would deserve punishment on the scale your god likes. I've stopped seeing this religion folks as moral being, not just them but there are some things on earth when you see them you just know there can't be a God watching this. but if a God exist, he definitely does not give a fúck, see it more like a video game developer watching NPC kill them self. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:17pm On Jun 17, 2020*. Modified: 1:52pm On Jun 18, 2020 |
And remember kids, don't do drugs.
Un-follows thread. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:16pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Maximus69: You need not worry about his judicial decisions Sir!
Go and apply the one that seems best to you, no wahala!  You already admitted to your illusion have a limit, so yes I agree there is nothing left to discuss. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:13pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
hoopernikao: Changing topic that you already changed by yourself? You are truly a funny fellow. OK, but we already finished talking some pages back, with you admitting not knowing everything, so no need to engage each other anymore, thank you for being honest. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:11pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
3 more pages to go, who knows I might stay a little longer the page counting a little bit too fast. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:09pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
DappaD: Man act maturely nau I suppose you're an adult so behave like one Trying to play the "your immature strategy" no bad. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:08pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Rozz: Thanks my SD,he shall be saved sooner or later. What will save you from lying. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:07pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Rozz: You don't know it yet but soon you shall experience it Have you your self experienced it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:29pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Rozz: Hes gradually on his way to salvation,hes tired already Madam what salvation. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:27pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
hoopernikao: This isn't an apology. I need your apology that is honesty.
I didn't say what you said I said and it's a false accusations. So apologize. I see what you're trying to do, changing the topic. We are all born sinners i s that not a believe you hold on to. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:20pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Maximus69: Womanizing o Lying o Shame o
Please which law states that any of these is a crime?
Abi you can't just quote someone or something at least? 
If there is no God and you're not my mentor neither superior to me, then what makes any of those three a crime nah?  I already told you, you're not an animal, that need a book, law, rules to do the right thing, smh. And you've lost credibility, you claim to speak the truth, but lies ruthless, who do you want to believe you. yes rozz |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:16pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
hoopernikao: Do you see the bold? You subtly inserted that so that you can twist my narrative. Point me to where I said such. It is not proper when you give false accusations or account of people especially when it's deliberate.
You can't live on twisting people's words and expressions, it won't help you. This is the reason you can't present your point because they are based on twist.
I hope you will apologize for this. And I truly mean it. We not all born sinner according to you believe, or JW is different. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:14pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
hoopernikao:
 Force ké. Like you only know about force and fighting. Influence aren't forced, you are exposed to influence and you will be influenced as you open your mind. At least you're calling a demon, so not bad I've had worst forced on me. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:10pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Maximus69: OK, for casual sex we'll either reprove the offender, meaning for some time such a person will be excluded from all our sacred activities.
But if not remorseful for the wrong doing, such will be expelled from our midst, meaning throughout the earth all JWs will shun the person completely, no more a member of our global family!  Clap for yourself, how hard was it, simple you answered, I'm not even going to ask for scriptures in your book of illusion, but well done. 1. Now do you see how inefficient your punishment is. 2. How useless and ineffective you illusion God is, he can erase a murderer intent, but fails to remove casual sex, maybe he likes to watch. oh well, just another day on earth. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:03pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Maximus69: Try to grow nah! 
You said there is NO God, yet you're trying to criminalize lying that's never a shameful thing anywhere.
Haba, who taught you that LIARS should be ashamed?  You went from a shameless womanizer, to a shameless liar in just one life time. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:01pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Maximus69: Try to grow nah! 
You said there is NO God, yet you're trying to criminalize lying that's never a shameful thing anywhere.
Haba, who taught you that LIARS should be ashamed?  Hoopernikao is this how shameless you members are, seriously bro, touch your neck and confirm if you're ok. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:58pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Rozz: See ehn I'm afraid to even answer that question.Maximus has answered you on that already Maximus answer was "at least the rapist finished" another of his answer was "we are all sand, so it's sand raping sand" you see how far his madnesses have reach. So what's your answer your God you see a girl about to be raped will you save her. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:52pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Maximus69: Sing Out Joyfully To Jehovah~57
IT'S THE PERSON, NOT THE PLACE IT'S THE HEART AND NOT THE FACE GOD'S MESSAGE TO ALL PEOPLE WE EXTEND. SO BECAUSE WE REALLY CARE WE KEEP PREACHING EVERYWHERE ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE CAN BECOME GOD'S FRIEND! This is the truth, the truth of a shameless lair. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:50pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
page 46 four more to go. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:49pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
hoopernikao: You aren't becoming anyone, you are discovering yourself. You are finding out exactly who you are.
You can't become me or any other person. But there is a you in you that has been dissolved under an influence. That is what you need to see. The influence that you've forced on my head. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:48pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
hoopernikao: You see, listen to this well and I mean well.
All that you wrote up there are in themselves product of influence. It is obvious you don't understand what influences are. You think it's about sitting you down? 
From the point of what you wear, how you speak, how you think, even the phone you use in typing all the errors above etc, they all stem from influence. You saw it somewhere, heard it somewhere, read it somewhere etc. Infact saying you aren't influenced or hardly get influenced is influence itself. You heard it somewhere, believe and hold it. Don't be deceived sir. Every man is a product of influence but the one who is influenced and never knew he is, is the one that speaks as you wrote above: "I am hardly influenced". When you speak like this, know that your influence already gotten you to where exactly it want you to be: a position of lack of knowledge of its influence. A very bad position.
So it seems I have a lot of work to do on you o. That you don't even know you are influenced, how will you now know when you are influenced badly. This is a big case. I'm not an Atheist, no you must be an Atheist, in fact you are one (Maximus69) I'm not influence, lies you're influence, a born sinner (hoopernikao) What's next ask me if I do drugs, then denial my answer and be like you do drugs you just don't know it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:41pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Mr literature wants me to bring a scripture and we discuss, but in truth it's him shoving down his perspective down my throat.
This is what you should know about the Bible, it can be used to Justify rape, murder and all manner of crime with back to back scriptures supporting it, it can also be like, turn the other check after a slap and love your neighbour.
But guess what, all religious books are this way, they all claim they know and insults unbelievers, Christians only a fool says there's no God, Muslims, unbelievers are infidels.
This might seem like a joke to some but people are dying for all of this brouhaha.
Here's the point, if we pick a point like "God is all powerful" you're just going to pick scriptures that justifies it and support it, while ignoring those that doesn't.
This can be carried out, I'll claim God having a limit with biblical scriptures, while you denying it claiming his all powerful using same biblical scriptures.
Like I said what ever you're looking for it's there, and this is how Maximus uses Bible as a shield to lie shameless. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:12pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
And ladies and gentle there goes another chapter of protecting my illusion. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:11pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
hoopernikao: I am here for. I will be here deliberately for you till you give me reasons not to.
So, I await your points which you have been afraid of giving since. I await your points that informed your decision about the bible. I have been waiting for 36 hours. You have non. What more can be illusion than speaking all-day on what you know nothing about.
But as it stands now, you have displayed that know nothing about the scriptures but stay on hill top shouting it is illusion, it is contradictory, it is false. Don't you think, if we are speaking face to face by now people would have deserted you as one who is incoherent. It is only proper for you now to sit down and start learning how to speak and acts properly during discussion. At least that will present your smarter than your current state. As in, you want me to become like maximus, a shameless lair, I refuse. By the way you already answered, short time memory loss. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:08pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
hoopernikao: You still haven't ready to think and read properly.
Is this how you relate normally around your vicinity. To judge things without basis or proper thinking and examination? Don't present yourself as a fellow who had suspended reasoning but active on speaking. Don't. It doesn't fits you.
Not agreeing with something ain't the same as not thinking properly because of the same thing. You will really really need to start helping your line of reasoning if what you are presenting here is you exactly in real life. But you already answer saying you don't know, what is it again. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 6:24pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Maximus69: He feels relevant when he's just a nonentity!  You should hide your head in shame, but you have no integrity what so ever. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 6:22pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
DappaD: The answer to this question you've been repeating over and over is in the same Bible that you yourself have condemmed.
But since you've taken your stand and you don't have a receptive heart to learn, that's the reason you will keep wallowing in your ignorance.  Hope you're aware this is just your opinion, and here's
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 6:20pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Rozz: you need orientation it's a simple question, will you save the girl. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by GRIMMJOE(m): 6:19pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Maximus69: Punishment for what nah?  Punishment for offense, are you not the one that say you have punishment, and casual sex is a great offense, hence what is the punishment. if you like play dumb. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 4:07pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Rozz: Hes just having a swell time here.Lol Will you let a 5 years old girl get raped, if you're God. Not religious incompetence but God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 3:53pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
At maximus, you can as well tell us the punishment for offense, or were you lying. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by GRIMMJOE(m): 3:52pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Maximus69: And is there any crime when someone chatting with you forgets something?
I'm beginning to see you play God now o!
Offence number 1: Thou shall not lie! Offence number 2: Thou shall not forget!
Please where are these rules written Sir?  Good now that you remember, what are the punishment. I'm not letting you off the hook. |