Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:07pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Rozz: May God locate you and touch your heart What is the benefit of the locating. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:03pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Rozz: my pastor asked me to,its another story on its own Cool, but do you believe that a God that want everyone to know of his existence will fail. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:57pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Rozz: What do you worship?you earlier said you don't believe in the existence of God I don't worship any one, I don't feel the need to worship anyone. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:53pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Rozz: ofcourse you can't deny that fact that they are highly knowledgeable and would lead you on well and better What does this salvation do. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:47pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Rozz: says who? I used to be involved in evangelism Why did you stop. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:45pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Rozz: says who? I used to be involved in evangelism Then why did you recommend Mr literature and co. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:43pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Rozz: meaning science has failed you and your likes,when you are tired of waiting for scientific proof,you can meet of our learned brothers here to lead you to your salvation. OK, I don't worship science but it's done really well, smartphone, medicine and all that stuff, but of course it has limit. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:38pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Rozz: meaning science has failed you and your likes,when you are tired of waiting for scientific proof,you can meet of our learned brothers here to lead you to your salvation. They lead you to salvation yet you don't know the way to lead someone else. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:07pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Maximus69: Your PERSONAL opinion Sir!  Better than an illusion. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:06pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Maximus69: My young lady, there is nothing like ATHEIST or FREETHINKER, they're just bunch of psychopaths.
If not because i'm here, the madman would have turned the thread upside down turning the topic into something else!
Jehovah's word perfectly defines suchlike ones! Psalms 10:4; 14:1  You should at least be honest, young lady ask yourself what a freethinker is, what Atheism is, are they really psychopath, seriously ask your self this. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:53pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Rozz: To me GRIMMJOE sounds like an atheist but he said he's not. Hope you get it. If you say God exist, why did he failed. God exist, he doesn't want us to know, probably doesn't give a fuçk. God doesn't exist, science just doesn't have all the answer yet. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:50pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Maximus69: I've been with you for almost 20 hours today Sir so what's new in the above?
Do you have any other thing than your FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT?  I already explained this, fight here is used figuratively, abi you no go school. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:46pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Maximus69: Empathy is putting yourself in other people's shoes to feel their pains. NOT desperately judging people without hearing their side of the story!
So if you want to talk about empathy, use your head not your preconceived judgment Sir.
Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowingly?
You listen to other people's comments and think deeply not just rushing to conclusion and making it a joke as if others don't know how to crack jokes too.
No matter the picture you later posted after making it seem like a joke, i'll just keep joking with you because you started it first!  111 words, no answer because it doesn't exist. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:43pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:41pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
hoopernikao: I am really learning to understand your character o.
Which one is fight fight again? Are you fighting over there? Don't o. Fight isn't good for you.
You haven't still said anything. You are only ambiguous. Where and what contradiction. Talk scriptures here then talk God to God. Abi?  The fight here represent your struggle and willingness to defend your believe. OK answer this, what is the purpose of the Bible, now get up and watch the new has it been achieved. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:38pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Maximus69: Now listen to yourself! 
Fight Fight Fight Please with who nah? 
That's why JEHOVAH gave us wise counsel not to waste a second with people like you, because we're not out to FIGHT, it's when we are trapped as in arrested and arraigned before fierce Inquisitors that we must say something to defend our faith, but on social media where everyone just share happy moments and gists, a competent Christian will just make fun of your muscles because we aren't sent out to FIGHT!  Stop pretending, you know I don't mean actually fight, but to illustrated your perseverance. Mr literature |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:06pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
hoopernikao: Read my words carefully and patiently. I didn't say Rest is literature, I said the bible itself it's literature. Anything written to be read is literature.
Dictionary (LITERATURE) definition.
A written works, books and writings published on a particular subject.
So I didn't just say it, that is it. The scriptures is both historical and inspirational literature.
Also you just made another accusations without a single point or proof. Is it that bible contradicts itself or you didn't read properly? Or you didn't yield yourself to be taught well? Which one?
I have once seen 1+1 = 2 and 1+1 = 11 as contradictory in math aptitudes until I started reading well and paying attention to instructions and illustrations. Fight fight fight defend your illusion. The Bible being a contradiction is based on the fact God failed, hence he's not God but Jehovah. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:58pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Maximus69: OK!  So what do you expect when you're talking about dick, cum and so on during a serious discussion  I must come to your level now so we can make the whole thing a complete comedy fiesta nah  You have no empathy. Words usage is different from the word itself, so stop trying to make it seem like I'm the one joking even when its you that admitted to be joking. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:55pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Even about the 5 years old that was raped in the church, it still gets to, do God exist or God doesn't exist. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:54pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Maximus69: Perhaps you should cross-check the title of this thread again Sir, i don't think you're still using your medulla oblagata now, because this thread has nothing to do with you or your argument. It's all about a lady who is contemplating taking side with a group of religionists on a particular doctrine, not your God dey e no dey palavah Sir!  You have the mindset of that literature guy, sometimes I can't tell if you are dumb or you're faking it. No mater how you look at it, it all goes back to the point of is this Jehovah real, is he truly God, and now we're back to God exist, to God don't exist. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:49pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Maximus69: All humans must live as one so if i choose to remain a teenager for reasons best known to me i think it's a welcome development Sir!  Acting like one, not so good a development, don't you know I'm not the only one that will notice you trying to make a joke of the discussion. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:39pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
hoopernikao: I agree with you, but you need to agree too that you actually jump into things you didn't know. Sometimes it's honorable if you keep your lane even if you don't believe in what is being said. When you want to contribute, ensure you are sure as people are reading and will question you.
It simply doesn't hurt if you start off to go and read properly, learn properly what the scriptures stand for even if you don't believe it or accept it. Twisting what is writing is same as lying, false witness and accusation.
Sadly, your own reason for twisting the scriptures is not from point of knowledge or knowing it but from point of not patient or be ready enough to read it, yet you want to argue it. Think it yourself, is this a good thing to speak confidently on a subject matter you know nothing about. It will only make you a superhero on billboard.
Let me help you abit, like I said, my purpose is firstly to help you be able to read Bible well without bias even if you don't agree with its principle.
To read well, ensure you don't loose your thought on how you normally read other books. When you see figure of speech, or literal explanations, read it as such. Also always ask yourself before concluding on a text. Have I read it properly, if I see this same text in another book would I have held the same thought as I am now? Or I am just forming my own meaning. When you start questioning yourself, you will start reading well and you present yourself bad as you did here.
And on bible interpretation, you may need someone who believe in it to help you out as you must first believe in the inspiration of a writing before accepting its inspiration. You say rest is literature, I say base on the Bible notoriousity for contradiction it can't be a literature. I don't even type that long, how are my words difficult to understand. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:29pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Maximus69: Your PERSONAL opinion Sir!  Your personal opinion? see why I think you're a teenagers. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:27pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Maximus69: OK let's hear your side of the story even though noone sent you, but at least we can all watch the performance of a clown freely.
So let's here from your side!  You say God exist, I say he doesn't exist, you give your reason, I give my reason, rinse and repeat. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:25pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Maximus69: The best description for a so called freethinker who has been so influenced by the thoughts of others to the point of spending days with them!  Not a big deal, the last time I was on religion section was some years back, eventually when things goes back normal I'll be too busy to watch a cat trying to fight his imaginary self, it's that simple. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:13pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
See it more like looking at a cat fight his reflection. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:11pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Maximus69: Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! My God asked me to speak and reason with people about him, you don't believe in any God, yet you're here all day worrying yourself over the matter of the person you are saying "he doesn't exist" or let's say nobody sent you to do this yet you're here all day! 
Walahi Talahi you're a real clown!  I'm intrigue by denial, the false pretence some humans hold to an after life that don't exist is quite intriguing. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:08pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
What's you guys don't understand, you make your deduction, I make my deduction, next thing you want me to accept your deduction by fire by force like that literature guy, like seriously.
If a God exist, none of this will. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:04pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Maximus69: What you don't know is i was once a soldier as in a trained killer. But that attitude of beating the enemies still runs in my veins, so if you're not careful i'll kill you with hypertension while drinking my bottle of Baron Romero. You'll notice that i've been playing on your intelligence ever since because you chose to make this a joke, but everyone can see it in your post that you don't have the liver. So calm down and learn gently by asking thought provoking questions in a mild and respective manner or i'll continue giving you headache like your ancestors! I've discussed several times in the past with your professors and most of them do regard the level of intellect JEHOVAH has given his Witnesses. You're just a kid in the game, so chill or you'll die of high blood pressure!  Your opinion. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:02pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
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No God In Sight |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:00pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
Maximus69: What most people don't know is the fact that JEHOVAH is the wisest and smartest personality in the whole universe! Isaiah 55:8-9
Whatever he says will surely come to pass. He said this people have made worldly material things their God, in the works of their own hands they're trusting (believing) but they will be confused and they will start coming to look for the worshipers of the true God after their gold and silver (material possessions) have disappointed them! Isaiah 65:11
Though they claims to be freethinkers and atheists,yet they'll become so restless over the matter of a person they're bitterly denying his existence! 2Peter 3:3-4
OK they're saying God doesn't exist, why not forget about the inexistence of this your seemingly insurmountable enemy and continue living your life? Job 5:13  This is still your opinion. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:58pm On Jun 16, 2020 |
hoopernikao: Is that scriptures? Or just opinion?
Seems you aren't reading all I have been writing you or you may be in haste reading them.
Your accusation or unbelief in God is not my concern, that is an opinion you hold and if you have issues on that you may need to find God to speak with him on that.
My concern about you is that you spoke as if you know the scriptures even more than those who believed in it. You pointed to many things in this scriptures that they are wrong and that exposed alot about your ignorance of the same.
So, what I want to do is to simply educate you about the book. To make you see that many who hold same view as you and claim to attack the scriptures usually don't have a single knowledge of what they are saying but display intelligence in ignorance.
Hence the reasoning I asked you my very first question "have you read it well". So, what I expect you to do is to draw your discussion out of the scriptures as you started and make your point on how it negates or is false.
I can't speak for God. God needs no defence sir. You can find him yourself. He is likely looking for you too. That makes it an easy search for you.
Butt for me, what I am told to hold high, to understand thoroughly and contend for with unwavering boldness is the scriptures. And if you know you don't know anything about it, why not simply sit-down and first learn well. Then choose your points against it wisely.
Like I told you the first point of accepting or refuting a text or writing is to properly learn it first. It seems you haven't done that, the reason you aren't organised enough to state your points. You do know all this are just your opinion, down to the illusion you hold on to. |