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frank317:
No from his perspective, religion claim it will end war but has not done it.


there was... a lot of things causes war, blaming it on logic is quite funny


religion

LordReed:
Actually, it has produced more utility than religion. It is with the products of logic and reason we are using to communicate right now not that of religion.



There is no claim that logic and reason will completely stave off the baser instincts of man while religion makes such a claim. Yet the religious have instigated some of the most brutal wars of our pre-modern past. And even in the modern era religion has provided an excuse for war and brutality.

LordReed:
Actually, it has produced more utility than religion. It is with the products of logic and reason we are using to communicate right now not that of religion.



There is no claim that logic and reason will completely stave off the baser instincts of man while religion makes such a claim. Yet the religious have instigated some of the most brutal wars of our pre-modern past. And even in the modern era religion has provided an excuse for war and brutality.

Seun:
It is true for the majority of atheists. After escaping from religion, people tend to rely more on logic and reasoning.


It is immoral to me. Whenever people say that something is immoral, that’s precisely what they mean.

As an individual, I can explain why I believe an act is immoral and get other people to agree with me so that collectively we can find a way to discourage other people from engaging in the act. The only difference between us is that you feel the need to use scriptures to support your moral views and I do not. As far as I’m concerned, if an act causes more harm than good, takes away or limits people’s freedom and happiness, is unfair, needlessly cruel, very stupid, etc, then it’s probably morally wrong. Something that is wrong in most scenarios, such as adultery, may be acceptable in some scenarios, e.g in an open marriage. Morality at its best involves the active use of our big brains as social mammals.

rekinomtla:
That doesn't answer my question. And it is reasonable to hate someone on the basis of their religous beliefs, eg ISIS. Plus atheism isn't even a religion.

Seun:
As an atheist, it's my privilege to inform you that it is immoral to hate people just because they don’t follow your religion. Desist from this!

Seun:
False. Obviously.


False.


This is a good thing, and it doesn’t stop you from having compassion and empathy.


False. Atheists are guided by the law of the land, their personal moral values, empathy, peer pressure, etc.,just like most religious people.


Utterly false.


As an atheist, it's my privilege to inform you that it is immoral to hate people just because they don’t follow your religion. Desist from this!

Blakjewelry:
throw me an example and I will counter

Blakjewelry:
one of the most stupendous reason I have ever heard.

you become more compassionate and more principled when you are guided by reason and logic

nnamdijonathan:
don't ever mention me in your talk again, mtcheeew

sykeng:
ok

nnamdijonathan:
don't ever mention me in your talk again, mtcheeew

rekinomtla:
ask him. He'll get your mention and if he doesn't respond it's most likely because he doesn't want aiku thread on Fp.

BabaRamota1980:
Do not derail thread please.

Naijawebmaster:
I wish this can happen in Igbo tribe, Kalabari and in Akwa Ibom.

hisexcellency34:
What are Igbo elders waiting for? They conduct marriage rites as if they are selling their children