IconicIyaebe:
The right step has to be taken to pull Nigeria from the mess we met it. Don't be an enemy of progress please

Yes.
The right step into the abyss.

Look at his background.
Making threats from Abule Egba to Russia.

If he's truly brave, he should go to Russia and make his video.

Bloody cowards.

Fuel - N550
Dollar - N815

Very good Pressident.

And you put this in the Celebrities Section because you think you are now famous abi?

Samantha124:
Last time I tried posting pictures here nairaland gave me a tough time, but I'll try.

No problem.
Let's just suspend the debate till then.

How can I know transfer this thread to another moniker please?

I don tire.
I do myself today.

Samantha124:
Doesn't the word "child" starts with "chi"

Is that a name?

That's not a checkpoint, that's a rituals lair.
OP is trying to lure us.

Samantha124:
The burden of proof is on the both of us.

So far you haven't shown me any statement that proves that Igbo people are indeed Bantus.

You and I both got the information from the internet and we can't prove it.

The burden of proof is on you alone.

Why?
I have information from the internet.
You have no information from the internet.

If you do, show us.
This is one of mine below.

I'll wait...

Samantha124:
There are also a lot of "chi" words in English.

Are you trying to tell me that English also originates from Igbos?

Chi in English names?
How many?

Samantha124:
And why can't you prove that Igbos are Bantus too?

Just because I'm based within the Zulu land, it doesn't necessarily make me a Zulu.

I have already proven this more than 5 times now.
I and every historic record I know of Nri states that it was an Igboid kingdom.

You are the one disputing this, stating that there are other tribes in Nri so the burden of proof is on you not me.

Prove the other non-Igbo tribes in Nri, otherwise, the Bantu are Igbo since they migrated from there.

Thanks.

Samantha124:
We don't have a "Chi" in Sepedi.

Because Sepedi is a watered down version of Bantu.

Strong Bantu tribes in Zambia, Zimbabwe, Congo, Kenya mostly have "chi" in them.

Off the top of my head, I can list some,
Chitalu, Chirongo, Chilimanzi, Chitepo, Chikaka, Chimurenga, Chitungo, Chitengu.

Samantha124:
Again you're not proving anything to me and there's nothing you're saying that proves that Igbos are Bantus.

Nri Kingdom had people from different communities, it wasn't just Igbos.

List one or two of those communities.
Why can't you?

Samantha124:
Prove to me first that Igbos are Bantus and I'll mention those tribes...

Since you are Bantu, why is there a "Chi" in your names? Same Chi that has been the ancestral deity of ancient Igbos.


You started off smart, but now, I'm disappointed.

Samantha124:
Prove to me first that Igbos are Bantus and I'll mention those tribes...

Again, Madam Thick Skull, I have already proved it.


Bantus migrated from the region between Benue & Cross Rivers in the 2nd BC and the Nri Kingdom held dominion in that same region around the same time.

I don't know what could be clearer than this. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Samantha124:
My thick skull?

I read somewhere that this Nri kingdom was a haven for all those who had been rejected in their communities and it also formed an allegiance with the neighbouring communities.

This alone proves that it wasn't only the Igbos who were based there... Different people from different communities lived there.

Mention one or two of these tribes/communities.

Samantha124:
Prove to me first that Igbos are Bantu people.

I have.
Now, I'm just trying to force it into your thick skull.

You are dodging that question because you realized are about to contradict yourself.
You are half smart.

Samantha124:
Sure, it was the Nri Kingdom, but where does it states that Igbos are Bantu people?

I can stay within the Zulu region, but not be a Zulu.

Can you show me proof that Igbos are Bantus?

Can you give us a list of all the tribes living in the Nri Kingdom in the 2nd Century BC?

Thanks.

Samantha124:
Benue-Cross Rivers.

That region was the Nri Kingdom in the 2nd Century when Bantus started migrating to Central Africa.
Can you comprehend or not?

What else am I suppose to say?

Samantha124:
My point is that the Bantu people may originate from Benue State, but not be Igbos.

There was no Benue State in 2nd Century BC.

Samantha124:
HeartlessMan, what do you have to say about this?

Nothing, as required.

Samantha124:
Let me give you an example about my province, it's dominated by the Pedi people, but we still have the Vendas and Tsongas.

So we can't say that all Limpopians are Pedis just because the tribe dominates the province.

Are you seriously comparing modern urban areas to ancient civilizations?

In Lagos, it is dominated by Yorubas but there are many other tribes in their millions & hundreds of thousands.

Your point exactly?

Awwal Gambo is bigger than Tinubu hands down!!

Samantha124:
Yes, it says Benue-Cross Rivers, but it doesn't says anything about Igbos being Bantus... The Igbo people may have not even migrated to that location by the time the Bantu people started migrating down South.

I don't have any problem with Igbo people, I just want you to show me proof that Igbos are indeed Bantus.

Why did you skip the part where the Nri Kingdom controlled that region before/during that period?

What tribe is Nri?

Samantha124:
It doesn't says anything about Igbos here... It just states that Bantus first originated from Benue... Remember that things changed over the years.

What if the Igbos were not yet based there at that moment? but were still to migrate to Benue from only God knows where?

It says Benue-Cross Rivers.
The Nri Kingdom controlled that region in that period and prior.


Do you have a problem with Igbos?

Samantha124:
You may be a historian, but I can still beat you at your own game..

You don't get it... I'm not denying that Bantus migrated from West Africa.

I'm asking that you show me proof that Igbos are Bantus.

You don dey give me work dis early morning o. 🙄

Samantha124:
Show me proof.

And don't forget that Southern Africans also have Khoisan ancestry.

Lol. Na historian like me you dey ask for proof.
South African natives have many origins. Which is yours?

Samantha124:
Igbos are Bantus?

Yes.
Your ancestors.

Samantha124:
I know that, but only a minority of Bantu people are left behind in those countries... The majority of them are not Bantus and they look nothing like southern and East Africans.

Are you telling me that your Yorubas, Igbos, Hausas, and Fulanis are Bantus?

Yes, but just Igbos, Akwa/Cross, Bakassi.
The others you mentioned are savage. They eat humans.

Samantha124:
Well, I said 85% and not 100%...

But they are Bantus like South Africans...

And you don't know that Bantu originated from Nigeria/Cameroon abi?

Samantha124:
Yes, they're not Nigerians.

85% of the time I know my people when I see them.

Yet, they are Kenyan.
You see your toto for outside?