₦airaland Forum

Parachoko:
But it's not Harmful and Shameful for the fraud to get 90% of the votes in the South East?

Some of you are beyond redemption. Peter Obi cleared Lagos (even though your tinibu and his riggers severely reduced his votes), be cleared Abuja, Nigeria's capital, such that your tinibu was not even able to get 25%, he cleared Plateau State, Nasarawa State, Rivers and Benue States (though the shameful rewriting of results changed the actual score in these two states), cleared Edo State, Delta State, and Cross River. And these were in spite of the Maddie rigging against him.

Yet you annoying characters keep mouthing the rubbish that he got "90% of the votes in the South East".

Don't worry. You will have your doubts abruptly cleared in the coming months.

AMINDA:
Neither will heaven fall when Tinubu and his enablers get docked after 2027. Time is a gentleman.

Insha Allah, tinibu will be the first president in the 4th Republic to be jailed. It will happen. Only death will stop it.

Ironbull:
Tell that you uselessFDJ or FOJ we will not give them anything forensic my foot they should proceed to court we will meet hem there and we will never remov Amupitan its a promise so if una wan hit una head on the wall go ahead.

Who are these we we we. All of una go publicly chop army koboko very soon. Continue. You will learn a new lesson.

It's strange that Yorubas and the tinibu gang desperately prefer Peter Obi to be the presidential candidate of the ADC, so that they would blatantly rig him out and unleash ethno-religious narratives to avert any backlash.

Unfortunately, this will not work. Atiku would have to be the candidate, with Peter Obi as the running mate. This is a must. It will subsequently become the turn of the South East by default, just as it became the turn of the South South with Jonathan without much stress.

Deal with it.

Akerele44:
AMBO kor AN LOR ni

It’s time of Muslim in Lagos state after sanwo olu 8yrs

But after Buhari’s 8 years, it was not the turn of Christians abi? It was okay for una tinibu to hijack the seat with a Muslim/Muslim ticket for that matter, no be so?

But now because you have a preferred candidate in Lagos, you suddenly remember the need for religious balancing.

You too get agbado sense. Clap for yourself.

I hope shey man has no hand in this and in what befell Mike.

aswani:
This is making excuses for failure even before the elections have been conducted.

Also, the last elections held in FCT, the same FCT won by Peter Obi when he was in LP, his new party ADC capitulated completely despite him and Atiku campaigning for their party. That tells me you are wrong, ADC haven't got the votes and their infighting would make things worse for them.

The way you clowns always try to help Tinubu hide behind other insignificant candidates of his party is laughable. At least during Buhari's time, people were using his name to win elections. Even 'ordinary' Peter Obi, several people hid under his name to win elections into various state and national positions under the Labour Party.

But in the case of Tinubu, it's the other way round. Because he is severely unmarketable, he is always looking for others to hide behind. That's why you always want to hide his ugly face behind everybody else including governors, local government chairmen and even councillors. That's why he is forcing all governors into the APC so that he would hide behind as many people as possible.

Unfortunately, he can't hide his fat ugly face behind a finger. It's not possible, and you will soon learn the hard way.

Blankstare:
You will be surprised Ameachi works for Tinubu

He is. And I hope Atiku and Obi are smart enough to realise that. They should ease him out of that coalition quickly because he is essentially a nuisance there with no value whatsoever.

Let Tinubu go for a live interview on a platform like Arise TV so that we would compare him with Atiku. He can't continue to hide behind jesters like Onanuga and the rest to throw darts.

mrvitalis:
My only issue with Obi as candidate of ADC is simple

Supreme Court would invalidate his candidacy n nothing would happen

But if atiku is the candidate with North behind him? Them no born supreme Court well

Atiku is not a bad candidate but he needs to sale himself to obedients

This is also another dimension of the same thing I'm saying. Tinubu can objectively 'chance' Obi, and nothing would happen to be honest, because the man is decent and his followers are also the cosmopolitan, 'no violence' kind.

Atiku would be desperate enough to raise hell. And the northern voting bloc take no prisoners and make no pretence about being civil'. Especially when they know they won. Tinubu would meet a disgraceful end if he attempts any rubbish and he would not dare.

We need a Yin - Yang combination which Atiku/Obi represents. And that's the only antidote that would work against a cancerous phenomenon like Tinubu.

Lithiumite:
Though I beg to differ about your post ,I must sincerely acknowledge your plain,direct and manifest erudition......your appreciable objectivity also didn't go unnoticed......

6m votes for obi or whatever millions for atiku is and can never be static......if obi doesn't get the ticket consider 3/4s of those obi votes out the window even if he were to be deputising Trump.....thats huge harvesting ground for tinubu in the entire south and the majorly xtian north.

Has atiku has got the power of tribalism over his northern voters so does tinubu have and will equally benefit from in the SW and need you be reminded,thats the 2nd largest voting block after the NW.......it will be very difficult for atiku to get tge 25% spread across the south as tinubu and apc will push the equity and justice propaganda to the limits that the south should be allowed to have its 8 years and trust me,this will also reverberate in the north as many northern elites have a definite buy in into this,they don't necessarily have to like tinubu's face but this singular factor alone with tribalism will get tinubu half way tobthe finish line,incumbency and power of patronage another 40%.

I totally agree that obi getting the ticket will be a total disaster to the ADC as tinubu will easily sweep him aside.

On el rufai and the superfluous gargantuan influence many of you guys are always quick to attach to him is nothing but incorrect......despite all the supposed influence you arogate to him,el rufai as gov of kaduna state in 23 got just 29% of the votes for tinubu,lower than bauchi a non apc state and just a percentage higher than Gombe another apc state which tinubu also lost but can be excused for being from atiku's region......el rufai had the lowest vote percentage in the entire NW and many of these tinubu allies in that region are still very committed to his course.

Let me allow you juxtapose my points and I assure you, it will be a pleasure.

The claim that Obi would lose votes by deputizing Atiku is laughable.

The Atiku/Obi ticket polled 11.2 million votes in 2019, against the 'almighty' Buhari’s 15 million votes. For context, the despicable Tinubu scavenged, burgled, artificed and smuggled mere 8 million votes from all corners of the underworld to become a barely legitimate president, yet he is doing the most. Lol.

The simple question to ask is: If any Obi supporter refuses to vote for an Atiku/Obi ticket, what are the options? Vote for Tinubu or abstain? To be sure, abstaining is an indirect vote for Tinubu.

In Nigeria of today, nobody outside the core South West (excluding Urban Lagos), Kwara and Kogi states) would rather vote for Tinubu than an Atiku/Obi ticket. Take that to the bank.

Any high sounding political talk about 'Southern Presidency' does not resonate with the average non-Yoruba voter who can objectively see how Tinubu has destroyed the economy and just wants him to get out. Don't let anyone deceive you.

Besides, everyone can see the extreme yorubalization of the Federal Government and so it would be a joke to tell the average person in the South East or South South to support a so-called 'Southern Presidency' that has alienated them more than any Northern presidency ever did.

Svoboda:
Very true sir! It was the same mob action that pushed him away from the pdp in 2022. If not, by now he could have been vp waiting to coronated president in 2031.

Not really. I know for a fact that Atiku underrated Obi then and did not explicitly offer him the running mate position in the build up to the primaries. If he had done so, Obi would have stayed. Trust me on that. That was Atiku's most expensive political miscalculation till date.

Even if Obi had stayed back, Atiku wouldn't have picked him as running mate then because Atiku didn't see him as indispensable in the circumstances. Until the switch to LP happened and Obi proved himself.

But that is all in the past. Atiku/Obi has a date with destiny.

Odin13:
Atiku has gained more .. while Obi has lost some ..

This is fact

South can’t outvote North.

"Fact" is what you say it is. Otherwise, why not provide a simple, objective argument to back your claim?

The primary task is to get rid of Tinubu by any means. But that doesn't mean we would keep quiet and allow you guys ascribe more 'importance' to your side of the ticket.

The essential 'fact' now is that Atiku/Obi ticket is the only way to legitimately get rid of Tinubu without the military or a revolution. None is more important than the other, because no half of that ticket can get rid of Tinubu without the other. It is really as simple as that.

Svoboda:
"Obi or nothing" is subtle campaign for Tinubu.

Some sincerely naive Obidients are also in this category, but I agree with you that most people who are vociferous about this online are hidden Tinubu agents.

I pray common sense would prevail and Peter Obi would not allow himself be deceived by closet Tinubu fifth columnists.

AMINDA:
Let's do a simple logical mathematics, Atiku got 7m votes in 2023 at a time when a substantial number of Northern electorates, thanks to Elrufai, agreed that power should head South. This led to 5.6m Northerners voting Tinubu. Fastforward to 2027, with Elrufai under persecution and the performance of Tinubu, a substantial amount of these 5.6m voters will no longer be voting Tinubu. It's a no-brainer that most will now vote Atiku. Atiku will only need marginal votes in the South to be home and dry if he clinches the ticket. In other words, Atiku has barely lost a voter who voted him in 2023 but even if he has in some Southern states like Akwa Ibom, Osun and Bayelsa, he has potentially gained more from Northerners who voted Tinubu in 2023.

In contrast, Tinubu has encroached into Obi's base in the NC, SS and SW. Even though he remains unpopular across board. It is clear that he has not gained enough to make up for his lost Northern votes because he has failed to consolidate the Southern electorates genuinely, except getting their elites to his side. Obi has also lost some ground if we are being honest but he remains the undisputed owner of the South if he's on the ballot but he may not pull enough numbers or find enough radicalism to protect his votes in the South. Plus, unlike in 2023, not many outside the SE will be inclined to go vote Obi again just to prove a point if nothing changes.

An Atiku/Obi ticket remains the strongest combination till date. There are also talks about the NDC courting Jonathan to throw his heart in the ring. This further complicates things for Obi and Tinubu.

Well to clear some things up. Because aspects of this post sound quite arrogant and detached from reality.

To be clear, Atiku is no Buhari who was a bona fide King of the North with the famed 12 million organic votes that followed him across political party lines and election cycles. But even Buhari with his bloc northern 12 million votes needed more than 'marginal southern votes' to become president. What works for Atiku now is the resounding failure of Tinubu and the tendency of northern voters to vote along ethnic or religious lines. But that's okay.

It will be quite slick but mischievous and disingenuous to claim that Peter Obi has lost ground since the last election, or that Tinubu has "encroached into Obi's base in the NC, SS and SW". Is it by conscripting governors into the APC? If that is the case, why don't you say the same about the NW and NE where Tinubu has also snatched most of the governors into the APC? Atiku had some PDP governors in 2023 that helped him get 6.9m votes. Peter Obi had none, and yet got allocated a severely reduced but yet substantial 6.1m. Stop here and think about it.

So you have to be critically objective. Even me as an Obidient, I am being brutally objective objective by advancing the reasons stated here for objecting to Obi/Kwankwaso ticket and championing Atiku/Obi. It would serve no purpose to ascribe unnecessary importance or grandeur to Atiku's position, while subtly belittling Obi's position!

The key point in your post is this: Obi's main weakness is that he will not instigate enough radicalism to protect his votes and raise hell, mainly because of his 'due process' personality, and also because of the lukewarm, cosmopolitan nature of his main voting demographic: SE, SS, Urban Lagos, Abuja, and the Christian North.

This is where Atiku and his northern base will be sorely needed. Atiku will certainly mobilize the already capable and inflammable core northern voting bloc to do the needful to run Tinubu out of town when he wins the election with the Atiku/Obi ticket and Tinubu wants to try rubbish.

“When you meet a swordsman, draw your sword: Do not recite poetry to one who is not a poet.” - Robert Greene

Even though I am a thoroughbred 'Obidient', I must say it sternly that getting Tinubu out is more important than getting Peter Obi in.

In fact, if sacrificing Obi's presidency is what it takes to save Nigeria from another four years of Tinubu (God forbid) then that is a small price to pay.

The problem with Obi/Kwankwaso ticket is that, knowing how desperate Tinubu is, he can and will attempt to blatantly rig the election against an 'ibo man', and play up tribal/religious sentiments to douse any tension that might arise from such. Most Nigerians would simply shrug their shoulders and carry on, while Peter Obi himself would he busy singing about 'due process' and challenging the charade in the Court.

Unfortunately, we cannot afford such gentleness at this point in our lives. This is not the time for niceties or for reciting poetry. This is the time to draw our swords.

That is why an Atiku/Obi ticket is IMPERATIVE.

Atiku, being as desperate as Tinubu and being of Northern stock, and knowing that he won the elections, would be able to deploy the level of madness needed to run Tinubu out of town and save Nigerians from this rubbish. And I believe that Peter Obi would inevitably become president sooner than later, during or after his spell as Vice President to Atiku.

No amount of permutation or grammar can dispute this reality.

All Obidients need to understand this and prepare for this.

ChiefOloye:
We shall see! Asiwaju will "win" and nothing will happen that has never happened. This is not 2015. Whoever do anyhow will see anyhow.

Oya we shall see if he wouldn't end up worse than Laurent Gbagbo. You think is by threatening other Nigerians like your motor park area boys do. Let him try to force himself on Nigerians and see what happens to him and his agbado co-travellers. It shall be worse than what Buhari promised dogs and baboons.

This fool is probably working for Tinubu. Very annoying agege nuisance.

brain54:
I think so too...


Atiku and obi at the fore. Even kwakwasu in my opinion has a better chance than amaechi.


But I'd say the last APC primary stands out and reminds us not to underestimate amaechi. He also came in then as an underdog but came in 2nd. I don't think he can repeat the feat again though.


Lighting hardly strikes twice at same spot!

He only came second in the APC primaries because he was in bed with the Buhari cabal and he was a minister in the same government.

And of course he spent millions of dollars bribing delegates. He doesn't have such much to throw around today. Besides, with the direct primaries system, his chances are essentially zero.

Forkthiefnubu:
He lived all his life on government patronage so how did he control billions ? He was as never an entrepreneur or worked at executive level in a blue chip company , he lived a cozy life on the common patrimony just like most Nigerian politicians

There are many of them like this. Yayi, Wike, Rotimi Amaechi, Gbajabiamila etc.

Since 1999 these characters have been leeching on government money / public funds in one way or the other, without any evidence of having succeeded at anything in a private capacity.

Even if through something illegal like the tinibu that was a drug lord before politics, I'll even take that. At least he achieved something and made money via private scheming and hustle. Not all these lazy parasites who were nonentities and have refused to remove their rotten mouths from the feeding bottle of public funds.

Nothing will come out of it other than more cluelessness, uselessness, and corruption. You can't give what you don't have.

This circus would have to end soonest - either through abrupt, after-the-fact 'doctrine of necessity' intervention or defined constitutional termination of term provisions.

Gatewaystories:
That tweet paints a picture of a man who kept collecting money and doing nothing. But if you actually look at what was built, the story is completely different.
Gilbert Chagoury and his brother Ronald started the Chagoury Group in 1971 with one idea: build things that Nigeria needed. Over fifty years later, that company has shaped the country in ways most people don't even realise.
Start with what you can see. The National Assembly Complex in Abuja. The Nigerian Defence Academy. Roads across Lagos. Drainage systems. Water infrastructure. Hotels. These are not sketches or promises. They are buildings where Nigerians work every single day. Hitech Construction and ITB Nigeria have been executing major projects for state and federal governments for decades. That track record means something.

But the real story is in what you don't see. The Chagoury Group manufactures cement, glass, and steel. Over 60 percent of what Nigeria uses in constructions comes from their factories. Think about that for a second. Every major building going up in Lagos, every window, and every bridge uses materials made in Nigeria because this company decided to produce them locally instead of importing them. That keeps money in the economy. That creates over 3000 jobs for factory workers, engineers, truck drivers, and distributors.
Then there are the flour mills. Since 1972, the group has been running mills across Nigeria. Port Harcourt. Ideal. Nigerian Eagle. Niger Delta. Fifty years of feeding the country. During every crisis, every change of government, those mills kept running. That is consistency.
Eko Atlantic City gets attention because it is big and it looks expensive. But it was built to solve a real problem. Lagos was losing coastline to erosion. The sea wall protecting Victoria Island now was an engineering response to that crisis. The city being built there has brought investment and jobs to Lagos. It is not perfect, but it is real.
Right now, the group is modernising Nigeria's ports. Apapa and Tin Can Island. With international partners. With backing from the United Kingdom. That will make Nigerian trade faster and cheaper.

A man does not stay in business for fifty years building nothing. He does not employ thousands of people and supply the entire country with basic materials if he is just collecting contracts and leaving.
The anger in that tweet is real. But so is this record.

Can you give us one example, with verified source/reference, of any of these wonderful projects he won the contract to build via competitive bidding? Most importantly, can you give us any example of any of these projects whose contracts were not awarded during Abacha or Tinubu's regimes (of course with the exception of any state project done in Lagos since 1993 till date)?

Looking at Eedris, you can tell that his deprivation induced 'activism' has always been a cry for help.... A goat's bleat to be granted access to the perimeters of the yam barn.

Toor. This is just the beginning of the party. Just fireworks to stimulate the atmosphere for what will eventually be all out nuclear war.

You think it's by standing on shrivelled gbola's mandate or by having 36 state governors in the APC.

Make them wait. E go long.

BATified2023:
which problem?

If u have any personal case with inec chairman then take him to court, anything outside that na soldier bulala dey hungry u

Which useless "court"? Dey play. You think we are playing that silly 2023 'go to court' game with you this time?

You and your tinibu, Weedke and the rest can continue the macabre dance with the rotten greaseballs that collectively make up what they call "court".

When surugede music start to dey play, even if deaf and dumb person no hear am, him body go feel am.

dynicks:
Amupitan better save face and do the needful....

This thing Tinubu is looking for, would surely come back to face him squarely......LAGOS IS not NIGERIA.....

E too sure. That problem he is brewing, he will drink it to stupor.

Enough of this so-called "court" orders.

In today's Nigeria, "Court" means nothing but one useless man somewhere receiving bribes from Wike and the APC to declare whatever they want him to declare. The corrupt and perverted voices of useless individuals cannot be upheld as some sacred declaration by a sacred institution.

ppogba:
INEC will disqualify ADC if it is warranted and the likes of FALANA, OSHOMA and the other Obidient lawyer will only shuttle between CHANNELS and ARISE in vain.

Na who die lose for Naija.

Your a-thief waju lord and saviour that is making all of you so arrogant will receive worse than Samuel doe treatment. Continue bragging like a maniac. E go clear for all of una eyes.

dele1727:
As adewole of the SDP said...

Are you driven by patrotism or your hatred of Tinubu?

What is the chances that this set of people will be different from the other guys...

This kind of stupid talk is annoying. We have tried Tinubu and seen how useless he is. And you are merely ASSUMING that "this set of people" would be the same thing as Tinubu.

That is just an assumption, so we have to try them to know. We cannot reinforce failure by sticking to Tinubu that is a confirmed bad market. If the new squad that Kwankwaso is part of ends up being as bad as Tinubu, then the Nigerian people would kick them out and try new people, and on and on. Is that not what democracy is all about? Do you expect Nigerians to worship Tinubu in good or bad as if he is their only option?

Reads like sour grapes. Hatchet job.