₦airaland Forum

P1PrinceKT:
Who is the world?
Do you mean Christians?

Every sane people:

Christians, Hindus, Chinese, Jews, etc.

Just every sane person who is currently enduring ya all.

P1PrinceKT:
Do you think if Muslims and Christians go on fight who will win at the end of the day?

No

I don’t think.

10 million Jews are already defeating 2 Billion of una.

Imagine what 5 Billion Christians, having the most powerful armies in the world, can do.

Abi you are thinking Saudi Arabia, or Iran or Turkey, or Pakistan, that can’t stand Israel, will be able to stand South Korea, Russia, Canada, United States, France, Britain, Germany, Greece, Israel, etc. 😅

lawani:
Ibadan would have been up to ten times the size of Oyo. Show when Ibadan was burnt down by Britain. Did Britain also burn down Ilesa because Captain Bower was sent to arrest Balogun Ogedengbe? I presume the punitive expedition to Benin by a few solders was also a burn down to you by the British. Ibadan was allied with the British and the British came to Igbajo to end the Kiriji war after invitation by Yoruba monarchs, business men, clergy and etc. The colonisation would not have happened without the invitation. The same also apply to Lagos. The Yoruba invited the British to Lagos. You can believe unvetted newspaper articles above university journals. That is your business.
The Yoruba invited Britain to impose peace on their land and they probably would not have been the first to do such. Peace from any angle was better than an unending civil war that had already lasted sixteen years. I hope you get the picture

The Benin till today have Ifa. If according to you they don't have. Are you aware they have Ogun and etc? Are you aware Oba Ewuare was seen as an Ogun incarnate? You may not be aware since you are not aware they have Ifa in Benin city

Till today the area controlled by the Kanem Borno in the past will have less people than the one controlled by Oyo in the past. I don't need to check before knowing because majority of Kanem Borno is desert and throughout history the Yoruba have had the highest populated cities in west Africa. Before Lagos it was Ibadan and before Ibadan it was Oyo ile. It may have been Sungbo's Eredo at one point. When Nigeria started, eighty percent of urban centers were on Yoruba land.

Yes I pointed out to you that Benin and Oyo were empires because they united people of different stock. I also pointed out to you that Ijesa, Ijebu etc were full fledged nation states with army, civil service and hundreds of towns under their control. I was expecting you to argue that they were not since you are already arguing that Oyo was not an empire. Ijesa, Ijebu were not less complex and organized but they were more homogenous and that is the only difference

Till today the area controlled by the Kanem Borno in the past will have less people than the one controlled by Oyo in the past….😅😅😅

Let’s leave it at that.

I guess the population of cosmopolitan Lagos of 2026 is what you are using as your yardstick. Yet you think that Kano, 95% indigenous population, and has been like that ever since, had a lower population than a Lagos that was never even a town, but was established by the Portuguese 😅😅😅

Also, you never referenced a “university” journal on any thing you said. You referenced a “Cambridge university.” Even the journal sef, who wrote them? Have you seen any major archaeological study in Nigeria? 97% of African history are concocted hearsay. They just struggle to make it look like the west. No records, no evidence, nothing. Only artifacts and a word of mouth story attached to it. 😅😅😅 The only people with a possibly documented history in west Africa are the Kanem Bornu Empire and that is because they were exposed to Arabic through their religion. But even they, never documented their history. their writings were just religious. There is no history in Africa. It is the same lack of written communication style (writing), as no tribe in west Africa have an indigenous lettered communication system, that brought about people like you making ridiculous clams about history, and those same claims will make it to journal papers as articles, since no one cares to verify what cannot be verified. That is why people from the southeast will wake up one day and claim to be Adam and Eve, then, Israelites, then Hebrews, then people of Gad, then Judaism, etc 😅😅😅There is no record or evidence of any story you tell.

Also, kudos to the Oyo “empire” for being the first to invite people to come and take over their sovereignty because they couldn’t win a war. 😅😅😅

Hollicom:
Was he not trained in the art of firearms? He has every right to own it if he can afford it. Your corrupt policemen do own firearms if you don't know. Talkless of a military man owning one.

E be like say ur doctors advice for a Brian surgery was never take seriously by you.

P1PrinceKT:
Terrorism can be wipe out that's why Al Qaeda was. However, Islam can't.
You can not wipe out 1.8 bn people and stay alive may be you too need to go.

Don’t worry, let the world get tired of una.

Una go see something.

When they are finished, even una no agree say una be Osama any more.

A whole General living in an apartment building.

In Nigeria, a new junior officer is walking through an airport with a fire arm and disrespecting staffs simply because he was cheered on initially.

How did a junior officer acquire a personal fire arm? For what reason? That is the exclusive “privilege “ and not “rights” of eve very senior officers.

P1PrinceKT:
That's your opinion, and I respect it. But this idea of wiping out Islam is what countries in the West and America are trying since time immemorial with zero% potential success.
Do you have an idea how Islam ☪️️ should be wipe out?

AlQaeda was wiped out.

Communism was wiped out of Europe.

When people get serious with anything, it will be wiped out.

BrickandLace:
Trump is taking baby steps when he can solve the matter decisively in a few weeks.
Why hasn't he retaliated for Kwara ?

Don't hold your breath because of Trump.

It's a big club, and you're not part of it.

At least there is a club.

That’s good enough.

CyynthiaKiss:
As long as Islam exist, I don’t see this stopping any soon ..

Trump knows they would launch attack again, and he will retaliate..
America is not leaving anytime soon

Absolutely!

It is enshrined in its dogma.

There is no “moderate” one. Trust me.

Watch as one guy in Ibadan or Sokoto will be annoyed upon hearing this and will start commenting off key.

lawani:
I did not undermine Kanem Borno. It is desert. You can't compare it to Oyo empire. It certainly contained less people than the Oyo empire. That is just the fact. Yes Yoruba land invited Britain. It was not conquered by Britain. Know that history today.

Ghana was part of Oyo at one point. They were able to remove the King and put another one. Ghana was organized and civilized so it was easy to conquer because they will quickly understand. Millions of Ghanaians today still claim descent from Oyo

So Christianity is common to Europe but Ifa is not common to Oyo and Benin?

There is no reason to say Persia, Greece, Rome, Ottoman Turks etc were empires while Oyo was not. Even Benin was an empire while others like Ijebu, Ijesa etc were nation states. Maybe you want to say they were not nation stares too?

And then you ended with an attempt to correct me with the concept of a “nation state” while doubling down on your incorrect assumptions.

Somehow, you double down on the fact that the Bornu Empire, that was 20 times the geographical size of the Oyo empire, and was on the plains, was less populous than the Oyo that was a mangrove and swamp. 😅😅😅

Just like saying the Brazilians in the mangrove (exactly like the Southwest) are more populated than the Chinese in the plains and desert (as in the Bornu case).
I know that what fuels your thought is the population of Lagos as compared to northern Nigerian states. 😅😅😅

Benins had nothing to do with Ifa. The equivalent to Ifa for the Benins was Iha.

Just for your help: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2025/10/100-years-after-how-oyo-empire-resisted-britains-1895-invasion/amp/

That is a history of the conquest of Oyo. 😅😅
Except if you are looking for Cambridge University historians or your assuming history.

You even said I should “know that history from today” that the conquest of Ibadan when the city was ransacked and burned down by the Brits, was actually a happy invitation of th Oyo people for such mayhem. 😅😅😅 The first people the invited others to conquer them.

SuperSupremo:
We are not kids here to be told the meaning of Palestine and converting to Islam can mean anything else than we think.....You dislike Islam for your safety yet Everyone in Indonesia is safer than you can ever be,a country with the most Muslims in the world....nobody wish you like Islam you are probably just a drunkard and Idol worshipper protecting your bottles and your rituals towards innocent people that Islam forbids.......Islam no see you

In summary, this guy on nairaland is saying that Indonesia is safer than Nigeria because they are 100% of the same people that are making Nigeria safe.

He thinks that because a jeehardeest country is safer than my country, therefore Christians are the jeehardeest. 😅😅😅

Unfit reassign am to “usher.”


Wahala no dey.

Either those boys will tell the Lawma “abeg show us love, press us 100k.”

Or the Lawma will tell the boys “abeg show us love, press us 100k.”


I’m saying this because it is a cultural thing.

SuperSupremo:
Nonsense,why are you always pained about Islam you can't change anything about

Inferiority complex makes a man see things that were never there.

I didn’t mention that in any of my statement. How come you saw that name in my statement? 🌝

But I am proud not liking that name. It is for my safety.

lawani:
When Rome existed, they bordered Persia the Achaemenid empire. Persia bordered Greece. Britain bordered France. You don't have to subdue all your neighbors for you to be recognized as an empire. Oyo tried to subdue Benin but failed. They were cut off from Ibibio that you mentioned. Oyo could move calvary very fast over vast distances. At it's height it controlled Ghana, Togo and Benin republic apart from other territories. In the eighteenth century Oyo had hundreds of thousands of calvary. How many nations on Earth had that back then? By the standards back then they were a force to reckon with and nobody would joke with them. They accomplished a naval blockade of Badagry in the 18th century. Everything happening in the west African coast called the slave coast was under their control as at early 19th century. No empire was controlling the whole world. You only control in the main your immediate surroundings.

I don't know if the Kanem Borno is bigger in extent but it definitely contained at its peak much less people than the Oyo empire at its peak

The Oyo did not fight Britain. The Yoruba elite invited Britain to come and the civil war in Yoruba land. The British were not interested in fighting Ibadan and if they had been interested it would not have been easy for them because how many men under arms did they have in west Africa? If not for the civil war, the Yoruba would like Ethiopia not have been colonized. Ibadan was allied with Britain and if not with Britain they could have sought other allies. Without the civil war, Ibadan and others could have put 200k men under arms easily in the 19th century.

So Oyo like any other was an empire and it held it together mainly with a strong calvary that could dash anywhere in west Africa within a short time. The US is a strong power today because of the navy. Then they also had a good system that ran well as calvary alone is not enough. Other states in the savannah also had calvaries

Can you see that all your write up was never to approach the matter logically but emotionally. You even undermined the Kanem Bornu Empire, by saying “I don’t know if…..” and even said it contained less people.” 😅😅😅 You just needed to search google and look up the map of Bornu and Oyo empire.

Anyways, concerning Persia and Greece😅😅😅
You know the history, but you just want to twist facts. But that proves my point. The Persian Empire crumbled under the weight of it trying to conquer the Greecian Empire. They were constantly at battle. An empire never exists near another.

Britain bordered France but….😅😅😅 None of them were an Empire. In fact, all of them were part of the empire that could be referred to as the “Holy Roman Catholic Church.” 😅 The couldn’t see Empire status by reason of the JudeoChristian brotherly ties. It was after they started discovering distant new lands like Spain discovered the West Indies, that is when they started become Empires. Portugal and Spain (bordering) never battled because they were under the JudeoChristian Roman church.

Oyo to Ghana? 😅😅😅
You are right, even as history have it that they had to rely on the Dahomey, and Akyem, because they could even have a real clash with the Ashanti.


You said the British never conquered Oyo? 😅😅
I guess the Oyo people just handed over the keys to the Queen. Since they were tired of their “civil war.”😅😅😅
Go and read what happened in 1895. Stop twisting facts. That is not how history is made.

The funny thing is that some of these countries like Türkiye, Qatar, Kuwait, etc. that are pushing third world countries to religious extremism, are not even implementing those same systems in their countries.

They just want to see the world destabilized.

Shey Nigerian Palestinians were saying that he was going to convert and become a Abdullah?

Eh?

Sterope:
I like that you can’t call it a lie either. I was even referring to the cost of developing nuclear weapons, like the experiments in New Mexico, and yes, I definitely do care about the Japanese civilian casualties. There wasn't another Pearl Harbour but that didn't stop your darling France, Britain, and again the United States from carrying out more nuclear tests on mostly non-white populations.

You are right, not the race card. I keep forgetting that to your darling America. It doesn't really matter who the victims are. They just have to be at the lowest class i.e average, poor or/and non white.

It is laughable that a black man sits at the other end jubilating, I guess it is easier to accept your station in life. Lol.

😅😅😅

Let’s start from the last: it is more laughable that I shouldn’t jubilate at the actions of a country that has been headed by a black man (Obama), but you should literally jubilate at the Oct 7 attack of terrorists that have ghettos in Gaza in which the refer to people there as “Abeed.”
Come on bro!

And about the nuclear test: I have never heard of any test on a “non-white” population. I have never heard of a nuke test in a country without the permission of the people in desert areas. If you have the evidence, present it.
But you see the thing with propaganda: the “evidence” of the propagandist propaganda is the “lack of evidence.”😅😅

And it is so funny that you care so much about out the civilians of Japan but lack the voice to care for the civilians of Nigeria that are being undone by jeehardeest. Neither are you concerned about the people of China who were undone by Japan in their millions and whom America saved.

But you are so concerned about a civilian population that aren’t even concerned about you. 😅😅😅

Johncarlo07:
America has no humanity.
500,000 women nd children were killed in Afghanistan, sarin gas were used in Libya to kill pple by Nato forces bfor Dey could conquer Gaddafi, same tin happened in Iraq, Nuclear weapons was used in Japan by USA. Soo tell me d humanity ur talking abt.

America only calm down itself wen u go rogue against it. If ur forming diplomacy or respect for negotiations, America will crumble u. Dey want to b nd remain d only one most powerful nd dictate to d rest of d world wat it shld do.

Tank God for Russia nd China.

😅😅😅
Let me start from the ending:

All of those who went rogue are either arrested, or dead. From Saddam, to Osama, to Gaddafi, to Maduro. 😅😅😅

Then about American humanity:
You talk about it the same way you talked about it exactly the way it is expected. 😅😅😅

Japan and Germany brought a war, that took 30,000,000 (30 million) people. To stop it from getting to 100 million, America stepped in and brought peace to the world by eliminating 140,000 in a go. Thereby saving 70 million that would have gone too. That’s humanity.
Now mentioned “sarin gas” 😅knowing fully well that those two dictators (Saddam, and Gaddafi) and even Assad, got America involved because they used that gas to undo more than 2 million as in the case of Saddam. To stop more millions from going in, America stepped in and took out 50,000 dictators men, in other to save millions of the citizens. That is why America never took out the dictator. The people of Libya did take out Gaddafi also the people of Iraq took out Saddam. Now that was because America stepped in. That is humanity.

Kukutente23:
How do you form an empire without military might

Good question.

That is why the Oyo “Empire” was never an emoire in the first place. We just twisted history to fit a narrative that we’ve heard about others.

An empire, or kingdom, like most of those west African “empires” like Benin, Fante, Asante, Oyo, never became what they became by strength but by a natural human characteristics of aggregation around a shared attribute. If a set of humans share an attribute, like culture, religion, tradition, names, language, etc., and they stay close together, naturally, such humans will form societies. And those societies will seek order by setting rules, strata, and leadership and that is how the so called empires or kingdoms are formed.

Check out the reach of each of those west African empires. Oyo empire was only around the Yorubas. Same with the Benin. Same with the Asante around only an ethnic group. And the Fantes of Ghana. None of the had any formidable opponent to test their capacity.

A true empire is formed of different people, of different cultures, of different traditions, etc. by reason of the stretch of military might. Only one of such in west Africa was the Kanem Bornu Empire. It had a large stretch, getting into central Africa even.

Now google this phrase “the map of Oyo empire” so that you will see the stretch of its domain. You will see how little it was and how it covered only Yoruba ethnic areas. That is why it was easy to crush it, when a formidable foe like the Brits arrived.

Ritchiee:
This is from Cambridge University...

The Oyo Empire (c. 1400–1837), located in present-day western Nigeria, relied on a formidable cavalry to dominate the West African savannah. Renowned for speed and discipline, this elite force, often numbering over 100,000, combined heavy cavalry (using large horses, spears, and swords) with light cavalry (using indigenous ponies and bows), enabling rapid conquest of neighboring territories, including Dahomey.

Again, projecting the history you learnt about others to yours.

That is the issue.

Not all empires were created or survived by strength.
Some empires were created not because they were strong, but because they just had people of one culture and belief system existing in a location.
Some were survived not because they were strong, but because no one challenged them.

The Oyo empire didn’t exist because of any Calvary or strength somewhere, but because of they had a people with a common culture and tradition living in a location that was geographically impenetrable.

That is why it was a very very very small empire compared to what other called an empire, like the Roman Empire, British Empire, Greece, or even the African Kanem Bornu Empire. That is why the Oyo empire was never recorded to battle with any formidable foe, simply because they were just as surviving empire. Same with the Benin empire, etc. The were just small hamlet size people who couldn’t have people consider important enough for conquest.

That is why the first time they faced a formidable foe (British empire), they packed up. That was their end.

You are here talking about 100,000 calvaries because one guy sat somewhere and wrote history the way he felt like writing it. 😅😅😅

If it was truly a formidable empire, why was there also a Benin empire around it? Or an Ibibio kingdom? Una no even know wetin be empire sef.

You are happily referencing a “Cambride University” as a source. A university that, due to its lack of evidence, relied on people like you to tell your story. And that story became history.

God1000:
Shame on Nigerians supporting this vile human being, history will not be kind to you all

Says a guy who supports hamas

We must not lie just because we want to join others in a story.

There is nothing like the Oyo Calvary.

We only know of the Oyo Empire.

Macphenson:
Go and assemble ordinary pencil before coming here to make noise.

It was an important clarification. Why are you so angry?

edlion57:
I just pray that Nigeria will not happen to this man's business

That “Nigeria” you are talking about is literally the one holding up and sustaining his business.

No one buys his cars due to its quality. Only the NIGERIA government does.

LegendHero:
Tinubu is truly a master strategists. He understood how to handle Trump better.

Obidient won’t know what to say now. Should they abuse Trump, their personal lord and savior who they are depending on to remove Tinubu from power on claim of his government enabling Xtian genocide?

When Trump drop one, you won’t go back to say that thing is not a “strategist” again. You will instead, start hitting on Trump.

Sterope:
A very simplified analysis of what actually happened on your latter point. So America centric.

On the first point, we know how they achieved that. Nuclear weapon tested on the poor non white local community. Sweet eh?!

Anyways, Banditry and terrorism are two different stories. Their modes of attack are different, too many factions involved, with its own agenda. They have had a taste of absolute power and would rather die than give it up.

Crying victim is what has kept us here till today.

See how you played the “non-white community” race card?

😅😅😅

Japan, the first country to bring war to American soil, of which Germany NEVER could, carried out Pearl Harbor. Yet you want America to go nukke France. So that it won’t sound racist.


😅😅😅

Moderator101:
I hope so.

Niger, Iraq and Chad had US troops on ground in their country all in the name of fighting terrorism.

Niger suspended its military agreement with the U.S.

Iraqi political factions and parliament votes have repeatedly demanded that U.S. forces leave Iraqi territory,

Chadian officials at one point threatened to expel U.S. troops from bases.

One common reason they all seem to have is that terrorism often got worse, not better.

I wonder why.

But then you failed to report about some full case:

America brought peace to China by military conquest of Japan

America brought peace to Europe by military conquest of Nazi Germany.

So, list any country that America operated in, and didn’t bring peace, and I will show you a country with the same name that has an ideology of v i o l e n n c e

Stop confusing we APC minions.

We don’t know whom to bash now.

IbileIfe:
The next richest black man will be from the tech industry in Nigeria.

In Nigeria 😅


You guys minds are so small.

Mirasteel:
Safe from who? another brainwashed being.

Safe from people like you.
Who refer to the fat of America mega strength as propaganda and then Iran propaganda strength as the world most powerful country.

😅😅