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paxonel:
you can't impose this belief to anyone, you have to present a strong argument first
how do you know this, have you ever find yourself at a realm after death to know this?

The onus is on you to state how he can exist after death or after ceasing to exist.

CheapHomes1:
It seems you are having issues answering my questions. Let's try again. Why then are you asking me about me not mentioning candidate if it has nothing to do my write up?

If you don't care, then why did you say I encouraged voting? Can you quote me verbatim where I did that?

Doesn't it further prove that you have no understanding about my write up that you responded to?

I was not born to satisfy you with my response.


The understanding you want me to display is not an achievement according to my brain.

CheapHomes1:
Why then are you asking me about me not mentioning candidate? What has that got to do with my write up?

If you don't care, then why did you say I encouraged voting? Can you quote me verbatim where I did that?

Doesn't it further prove that you have no understanding about my write up that you responded to?

It has nothing to do but it should.

Your denial doesn't change what I stated in response to your write-up.

Your write-up had nothing to be understood if it's not in support of voting.

So,if you like ,compose a rap song titled 'Hell Victorinho Doesn't Understand'!


It won't take anything away from my name or/and my response to your write-up.



My advice is for you not to reply this message because your response will be useless.

LordReed:
I have, check.

Asked of the amount in the last one

Just to be sure

CheapHomes1:
To be telling me that I didn't mention any candidate, You have just confirmed what I said that you didn't understand a word from my comment. Is my write up about candidate?

Is it my constitutional duty to mention candidate that people should vote for?

Can you produce where I encouraged voting?

Who said your write up was about candidate??


Who said you should determine who people should vote for?




Of course

You deny encouraging voting.


Who cares?

LordReed:
Glad you know we are joking but wrong in saying we don't know. I for one knows your god doesn't exist thats why it never does anything.

Please, respond to my last email.

CheapHomes1:
It seems you didn't understand my post that you responded to

I understood but I chose not to respond accordingly.


At the end, you encouranged voting but you didn't mention any candidate.

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RichDad1:
Obi is a political orphan.

Well, you've got a rich personal text/quote there.... the quote should be read forwards.

paxonel:
in that case the op should have referred to the Hindu gods that he is scam since he is superior.

An inferior god does not need the attention of the op now, abi?

If that inferior God is not that affecting the op let him channel his attention to a superior Hindu gods, that is difficult to do?

You said LordReed will still die as an atheist.


Won't you die as a theist?



Would LordReed die the last theist on Earth?


Those theists that will succeed you won't be theists just because any God wants it like that neither would the existence of atheists after Reed be the plan of any God.


So, what are you celebrating?

BabydiHot:


truly fortune favours the brave.

This is what you get when you have a visionary leader and not a shaky shaky drug baron.
this is what you get when you are productive and not always consuming all the time.
Russia with the right leader Putin made good use of their resources to counter the whole world fighting them, thanks to Putin a visionary leader par excellence.
this is why Nigerian youths needs to shun those who think they can use their money to buy presidency.
go get your PVC and let's teach these people lessons.

After this war Russia may not be world power but trust me the world will respect them more because they did the unthinkable.
Putin will be the most powerful world leader of all time because normally he's expected to crumble but he stood tall.

Meanwhile they should stop this unnecessary wars
both him and zilynsky should rest.

Furrk the PVC,furk politics and furk the world itself if 18000naira is the reason I should vote for .........


I got the message on WhatsApp this morning.


Apply for 18000naira to vote/campaign for. ..........


I don't have up to 4k but .,.......


Let's see the worst that happens...... even death should hear!

CheapHomes1:
registering to get PVC is very good but it doesnt start and end there. the standard that the electorate sets for political aspirants and office holders is so low hence we have all these charlatants parading themselves and using money to buy their way into office. most people vote strictly along religious or ethnic lines and not based on competence. some vote based on financial inducement. others vote based on the fact that they just like the aspirant. many dont judge or scrutinise the credentials of these people. the politicians know this and thats why they are so bold because the electorate are grossly ignorant. so instead of all this, better voter education on the rights of the electorate as citizens of nigeria and how to demand, protect and fight for their rights will go a long way. if the people dont raise their expectations as to what they want from those in government in line with constitutional demands, then getting PVC wouldnt change a thing.

When I ask what happens when there's no government.., the answer is either a worse environment or we are not sure.


But I wonder why that cannot be changed if the political parties and the electoral body or commission cannot work together to produce qualified candidates whose qualifications are independent of tribe, religion,gender and financial monstrosity.


Yeah, financial monstrosity in the sense of using money to manipulate till you get the crown.


I think politics only helps to drive the economy never backwards when it's defined as the way in which a government emerges or the way in which a government is retained in the presence of a competition between components of a set of people who have an economy-never-driving-backward plan that can be sustained or retained by successive governments.



The factors to determine the winner:


1.The speed of putting such plan in place.
2.The number of people that understand the plan.



So, the person or group of persons competing with the fastest of practicable plans to put in place as well as having the highest number of people that understand gets to win.


It would be a matter of 'who can figure these things out the fastest?'

xproducer:
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A necessity, an honor, a privilege, a pleasure... to quote the word of truth.

"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth." - John 17:17

You're still quoting.


In the absence of a useless comparison of the Bible to other books,...why is it necessary to take its content seriously or consider it to be metaphorical or allegorical?


Why not take it as a disastrous combination of purposeless writings??


Is the Quran not also overrated??

budaatum:
You obviously do not know what evidence is and must think daughter said or what you read in a book is evidence.

You may have evidence, but we are informing you that all you've presented here is information, at best, and we are considering it with our senses which includes our minds, and we are not convinced of your claim.

That is how science works. You present evidence for your claim or theory or belief, and we your peers, use our senses to scientifically consider what you've presented to either falsify or truthify it.

Or rather, we are calling for evidence for what you claim but you are asking us to just believe you, because you supposedly have powers to influence people's minds.

If he tries to present,he will fail.

xproducer:
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... is what most unbelievers summarily regurgitate after hearing others say the same without truly searching the Holy Scriptures. If you did, and understood by GOD's grace, you would know that the entire inerrant word of GOD is harmonious and fulfilled repeatedly in our sight over time - while some continue to deny.

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe." - 1 Corinthians 1:18-21

An achievement , right?


Quoting the Bible.

HillaryNelo:
Done

Please, don't be angry because I asked of the amount.

My colleague just confirmed it.


It's 1k.


Thanks.

HillaryNelo:
Done

I am using my colleague's account because my own has stopped working.


I stopped using it a long time ago.

It was a student's account.

Please, let me know the amount.


Just to confirm the amount.

HillaryNelo:
Done

Please,I am pleading to know the amount, please.


I hope this doesn't offend you.

Please

HillaryNelo:
Done

I am using my colleague's account.


Please, I need to know the amount.

LordReed:
I totally understand what your position is. Anywhere I don't understand I ask you questions not with the intention of falsifying your position but to further understanding. I expect the same from you.



Where did you get this story from because I have never seen it anywhere. Kindly provide a link.



I am less concerned about what other people are saying than what I am saying in this thread. I can't argue for other people or provide other people's perspective, I can definitely provide mine. Which is what I will do.



The question is how do we know what someone is saying is true if we cannot get sufficient corroboration?



Logic is not enough. Logic is for making sure arguments line up properly from premise to conclusion, it in no way implies the truth of the statement. A statement being logical does not automatically make it true.



If said believers claim they have evidence why would it be senseless to ask them for it?



Do you have direct experience of a previous life or are you repeating what someone told you? Do you have direct experience of being able to move your consciousness out of your body or are you repeating what someone told you?



I have used myself as demonstration and I know that medicines work but that is not the evidence I give for why I accept the science.



Again logic is not evidence. Logic makes sure evidence and conclusion fit, that is all. Logic does not tell you that something is true or correct.



I will only consider it with evidence. I do not accept unevidenced positions. Has nothing to do with you and everything to do with me. I am not asking to accept my position, I am asking you to provide evidence for yours before I can consider it.



I need a proper example of what you are saying, your words are not enough.



LoLz. This is funny. This like someone saying unless you can explain how water got into coconut therefore you can't dispute that it was Wily Wily that caused it. That's not how things work. An inability to explain something doesn't automatically make a position unassailable. You still have to demonstrate how your own explanation is the correct one.

I have seen no reason to accept that consciousness is external to the body. I am still waiting for you to provide the evidence that will support your claim.



Evidence is the set of facts that point exclusively to a certain conclusion. Evidence cannot be equivocal.



Yes but sometimes the evidence cannot be misinterpreted or even if it is some more evidence usually sheds light. This is what I am asking of you.



You are welcome to your opinion of me. Still doesn't change what I am asking, produce the evidence.



You are the one who said what people call souls is energy, I didn't bring up soul out of the blue. Besides I don't really care what you call it, I am interested in the evidence.






You read it again because I don't know where exactly in the article you are failing to understand.

It's very simple .

Let him state what consciousness outside the body does.


I have responded to your email.

Truvelisback:
Alright, that means the love we practice nowadays is conditional.

It's always been conditional when it's about a living thing possessing love towards something else.

Truvelisback:
Bro, u don't need to write this long epistle. There is nothing like true love. That's just the Ugly truth.

I wasn't writing to prove the existence of true love.


Love is the highest feeling of acceptance of someone or something you can display .


You can also call it the highest feeling of concern or care for someone or something.


It happens such that you do so much to make the person pleased or to make the non-person utilised.


It has been demonstrated in several ways by several living things


But you guys argue because it's conditional.

So, you don't expect it to be conditional but that's you being unrealistic.

Furthermore, it's not a must to show love forever except there's a condition that warrants it or makes it necessary forever.

I think I can conclude by saying you can pretend to love this or that person all the time but you can't love anyone by pretending towards him or her all the time.

OfoIgbo:
That's a very good take on this issue.

We may well have two muslims, each flying the flags of PDP and APC.

Peter Obi is the only Christian choice

If it's all about tribalism and religion...,must I be affected?

SRichard1:
Alright... In which way?

Financially.

I've got accommodation issues (temporarily making do with an incomplete building with no toilet),debts(not so much though) and requiring some other necessities.


Whatever you can help with must be appreciated with a sincere 'thanks'

Have a better day

9jaRealist:
>
Why would someone campaigning for president of the entire nation
Start off by speaking to only a section of the nation in their own language?!
>

me

I need your help seriously.

budaatum:
Why do you deserve to be assisted?

What makes you anymore deserving than most here?



To reader

If you accept that HellVictorinho is correct, or not, please let him know. I would appreciated if you let him know how too.

There's nothing like more deserving.


You either deserve or not.

The amount of help doesn't determine whether you deserve or not.

In other words,help is help ....if it's too small or big,then it's not help.


If Mr B helps you with 1000dollars while he helps me with 500dollars,it doesn't mean you're more deserving of anything...... because money is money.


Money is not defined as a specific amount of money.

So,if we're both deserving of financial assistance, there's no specific ratio to prove that.

We're both deserving of something useful by a specific person or different persons for each of us no matter the size since we both exist except we attack such person or persons not necessarily by asking for assistance with a single sentence but by speaking or acting against the person even before the person ever spoke or acted against us.

So,if the person has no specific useful thing to give, that doesn't mean the person should feel attacked when asked for assistance.
A request for assistance is not useless because it is something that can also be used by Mr B since he exists as a human being .




Anyways,you get more of certain things as grace.

For example,if you have more of the ability to run when something is chasing us, it's impossible that you choose not to run because if you don't choose to run ,then you don't have more of the ability.


More of the ability involves a brain working with the rest of the body to move faster to avoid being caught while the other person gets caught.


That greater ability is not deserving because no specific person or specific group of different persons gave you.

Things given by a specific person can be deserving or not.

They are undeserving when you get attacked by the receiver before giving.

If you have less money but give to someone with more,the receiver still deserves for just existing unless being guilty of attacking you before you give... that's even though your gift is needed more by you.



Mathematically, the value of what you give is directly proportional to how you address the person that you give.

If you call the person names before or after giving this or that,then what you're giving would be too irrelevant to be called an assistance EXCEPT the person had called you names just before asking.


You deserve to be lambasted after adding to the person's problems instead of only stating that you can't help.


Why give anything at all when you will still call the person names just because another person called the person names even though the person had not called you names just before asking?


The greater your respect for the human state of the person or the reality of the person being a human being who,the greater the value of what you give the person.


The greater the value , the greater the assistance.


So, the value determines the assistance.


The respect for the human state means you stay sincere not because of anything apart from being a human being too.


In other words,if you must lie,do it because you don't mind being deceived by the same person since you are both human beings.


Do unto a specific person/human being as you would not mind such person doing unto you since both of you are human beings.


If a specific person can also exist as not a human being,then such person should understand that there's need for the demonstration of the specific essence of being itself as such person.



I am not stating a rule that everyone would care about but I also do not care about and should not uphold every other rule I come across as a reason why I should experience certain things even in the presence of certain comparisons.

Therefore, I would condemn the enforcement of certain rules upon me at least mentally even when certain comparisons are being made!



I would also condemn certain people at least mentally !


Ultimately, you might not agree but I must show that we're into MORE THAN MADNESS as humans along with other specific living possessors of specific characteristics manifested towards the specific demonstrations of specific exposures to specific ways in which something can possess or be possessed by something else.

LordReed:
Yes.

Hello,

Should I still be expecting a reply to my emails?

kenbee:
WhatsApp wasn't left out.

To what end?


Even Kobojunkie who always tries to sound as the 'correct Christian who understands what Jesus means' does it in vain

MaxInDHouse:
Stop mentioning me!

You have not seen 'crazy'.


You will still see 'madness'.

budaatum:
You don't seem less to me, hell. I'm just not sensitive to your obsessiveness with buda who you think is responsible for you.

How am I obsessed when I don't think mentioning you makes you special?


I mention you and as many other people as possible.


You are responsible for your posts about me.


You were never expected to give anything useful.

Do you not know that thing called MaXInD House ?


He thinks calling me a beggar makes me feel less .......so stupid!


No matter what you call me,I won't feel less ....... it's just how I am.

I can't feel it makes sense to feel less.


Till I die , I won't seek assistance because anyone is responsible for me.


I will seek from people that are not like budaatum because I deserve to be assisted even if it's financially.


It's not because I have a specific share in anyone's money.


It's because there should and there must be people better than budaatum and MaxInD House who accept that I'm
correct here.



Think about this !!!

MaxInDHouse:
No wonder everyone is avoiding you, social media beggar!

Waiting for the next one

MaxInDHouse:
Sorry beggar, we're not talking about money here!

Drop another one

MaxInDHouse:
Oh no Emusan has been barred!
Well i'm expecting your comment my friend anytime anyday regarding God's people.
I always tell people around me that if we are to concentrate on the flaws faithless humans are talking about then there's no way we can say we believe in Jesus of Nazareth.
He himself knew very well that many even among his own people will be stumbled if they keep contemplating on flaws rather what God said about the Christ:

"Happy is the one who finds no cause for stumbling in me.” Matthew 11:6

Even Peter confirmed that faithless people will be stumbled and offended:

It is to you, therefore, that he is precious, because you are believers; but to those not believing, “the stone that the builders rejected, this has become the chief cornerstone” and “a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.” They are stumbling because they are disobedient to the word. To this very end they were appointed. 1Peter 2:7-8

So if you're expecting imperfect humans to be perfect in their assignment then you can never believe in any form of worship as God's arrangement. There will always be errors in the way humans do things because they are imperfect but no matter what the sign that God is working with them will be there:
They will produce fine fruit of faith {Matthew 7:16-18} and Satan will continue to give you reasons why you should not work with them even when everyone can see that there's no better performing group than them!

Why not drop another punchline instead of recycling from the bin in your head?


With all your money, you can't afford something new.