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raumdeuter:
While Chelsea fans are hating on Pep, their coach is trying to learn from Pep

I don’t hate pep fyi, I’m just saying things as it is

TalabiAudu:
Rubbish game so far.

Ziyech is not it

Zyech is just like Di Maria for Man U then, epl is not for him. The league is too fast for his style of play. Him, Tammy and Giroud should be offloaded during summer transfer, bring in Sancho and Halaand.

NextD18:
Kante just dey spoil ball mehn

Kante can’t play this type of football. It’s either he is been played the way Sarri used him then or nothing.

Ibime:
Manures slow backline of Lindjollof and Magwaya would suit Werner. TT should reason his introduction. None of Giroud, Ziyech and Mount are runners in behind.

Zyech and Chilwell are not in this game.

NextD18:
ManU defense looks promising to Chelsea, but using Rashford as top 9 is something I wished Ole never did.


He would have used Martial.

Just lock Bruno and it is done. The wingers are one dimensional. Rashford will struggle as CF if he is not receiving through pass from Bruno.

How can you be talking down your best player or you are just trolling. I don’t understand. Imagine we have Bruno instead of Mount or Havertz( no disrespect to both tho since they are still young).

Exonerate1:
The wailings have started already Lmao. When Havertz hits form, I wonder how this thread would look like

Meanwhile Mount has been playing the Free/passenger role for how many games now and how many Goal contributions does he have

If anything Mount didn’t cost the club a fortune.

Havertz10:
i dont think net spend matters, cause we were lucky to get rid of a few players, we aren't bringing in enough good players into the team that become mainstays, chelsea used to have a core, every teams needs a core, drogba, lampard, cole, terry and cech, you can add players on the side but those players were mainstays in the team, now the team keep moving from player to player, i'm tired of strikers, even haaland self might end up flopping

You are right though about core players in the team.

Havertz10:
i had to check city £832m, chelsea £780

Check net spent.

raumdeuter:
Who are the Man City board signings? Abi na only Chelsea get board?
You like lying to yourself a lot. Was it not when he didnt get Koulibali and Kounde that he went to get Diaz? It was when he didnt get Alexis that he went for Mahrez

Pep never went for koulibaly, rather the other way round. Koulibaly wanted to play for pep. The truth is whether Sanchez or Mahrez wanted for squad depth. Chelsea is still using azpi, whereas man city have bought like two to three RB.

raumdeuter:
Pep spent money, Chelsea spent money
Pep asked for VVD, Alexis, Jorginho, Kulibali Fred he didnt get them. Chelseas coaches asked for Kepa, Harvetz, Morata Bakayoko and got all of them

Chelsea board asked for those players, unlike pep, that’s the difference. Pep wasn’t desperate for those players, he wanted them as squad players, that’s the luxury we are talking about.

raumdeuter:
Chelsea has only spent 50M less than Pep and are struggling for top 4 every season

You heard from the horses mouth. There is a difference between you are been given a tool to work (whether you like the tool or not) than you getting it yourself.

popizaino:
He is only telling you what you want to hear,......was that not the same way he told you guys messi made him at Barcelona while the same messi can't make Ronald koeman

So messi is not human that you expect him to still be playing like 10 years ago. Btw, messi won ucl after pep left, has pep done that after leaving messi.

Ibeme:
I like Pep for his honesty, even though his fanboys will come and contradict what their Oga said.

This is the luxury I’m talking about.

Cc: Raumdeuter.

swiz123:
Mount has all the attributes to become an average player. All great players are talented, not just hard-working.

Well, he willl become tier two kind of player.

airmark:
That move by Mount in which he evaded 2 tackles and gave Werner that through pass would have been orgasmic if it resulted in goal.

Chelsea would be foolish to stall his growth by forcing an expensive player not ready yet to play and bench this boy.

Warner first touch always fail him

Mount will reach the height as a footballer. I saw glimpses of greatness in him. He is not the type of player been hyped by the media as the next best thing but he will be great like Lampard. But you see Odoi and James I’m not too sure about them, mostly Odoi don’t have the attitude of greatness.

Havertz10:
World class striker Tammy abraham

Said that he wouldn't sign a new deal because the club is chasing after haaland


There is panic at Stanford bridge

It is business strategy to hike his wage in his next club. He will be sold during summer.

swiz123:
I was left gutted when Ziyech chose to pass to Azpilicueta at the right when Pulisic had made an amazing run at the left. All that mofo had to do was to run into ATM defence and get that pass to Pulisic.

Creativity is truly an art.

I saw that too. He was too quick to release the ball.

User09:
For some reason, we tend to be more organized and do better whenever Jorginho plays

Because he is a sitting DM in this tuchel tactics unlike Kante and Kovacic.

Havertz10:
it's too early to cancel havertz the way una dey do, Torres flopped for 2years and chelsea fans still had hopes

Havertz hasn't really played, most times he was used out of position, guy is the most creative player in that team

Havertz was short as a teen, he grew into that tall guy under a short period of time, he has said many times that he is still adaptating to his new size, covid is a respiratory disease, he is 21, in a new league, new competition and country, he isn't an established player yet, chelsea bought him cause so many teams were chasing him and we had the kind of money leverkusen wanted

He can't just add weight, players have to maintain of very low level of fat to muscle ratio, if he eats anyhow so he can be more strong for english football, he will lose speed and have injuries, see hazard for instance

Guy just needs time to adapt, if una think say chelsea football club will dump havertz project for mount una no know the club when una dey support

If it is so why not sign established player instead of waiting for a generational talent to generate.

iamJ:
are our transfers as bad as barca? Or city? Or united self

No team dey perfect, even nba with just 5 players on the court, some players don't gel together, some take time, patience and insight is the difference between kdb leaving and staying, it's not easy to move from old players to young players and maintain your quality, very hard

Chelsea case is like this, managers will come and go, the club has to maintain an idea that will lead to long term growth for the club, we don't have a big stadium, we don't make enough money from other means like united, barca and madrid, that's why they built a loan army, it's like hedging, one way or the other, profit will be made or we get a good player that can be sold


Chelsea's policy is to buy young players with potential and make a profit tomorrow with them, if some become stars they will help the team grow and when they get to 28 the club will sell them make a profit and start again

Someone like havertz that was bought for 81m he is a long term player, if he becomes a star and excels at chelsea they will sell him for double the figure paid but they can't do that with mount

Its this policy that helps us to make huge transfers that most teams wouldn't do, compared to most premier league teams, chelsea have been very conservative self, how many players have barca bought for above 100m


Every top team will need 2 transfers every season to keep up, if you want to compete at the top with the best, 1 huge transfer each year, it's not cheap, stamford bridge can only hold 40k people, camp nou 100k, chelsea have found a way to make money and una dey wail, fans are ungrateful

You know fans are emotionally whip because the money nor Dey come from their pocket. Club management look at the business side more. The earlier they know every club have policy that work for them the better for their sanity. The coach should try Havertz warner upfront against mid table team.

BlueRayDick:
Maybe in the mouth of few French farmers and a handful of Chelsea fans that had no choice but to praise him for being better than Rudiger and Christensen . ( After all half bread is better than puff puff)

So you mean Thiago sylva will not be in best CB in last decades?

BlueRayDick:
The main question is "If top 5 defenders that played across top leagues in Europe during this era are being discussed in the future, will Thiago be in the conversation?"

I'm not a fan of Boateng and his comical defending na.

Sure his name will be in the conversation.

BlueRayDick:
You see ehn, when I asked "what makes Thiago Silva a great ", I was really curious to know those great feats he's achieved over the years Manning the defensive lines of various clubs and countries. I mean those arguments that can be made for him in the next 3 to 4 years when he's fully retired and people start talking about the great defenders that played in first 20 years of the 2000's . Yes Thiago Silva is better than them David Luiz and co...... but that greatness u talked about I’m yet to see it.

Maybe u should’ve called Thiago Silva a good defender at best , but the way u used the word “Great “ loosely there ehn , e get as e be.

He won’t make the top 5 defenders of this first 20 years of the 2000’s that I watched and can recall how good the players who played in it were , so once again I am interested in what makes Thiago Silva aside from the fact that he’s like Chelsea’s beat defender since dem John Terry retired .

Cc: Patrickmuf
Popizaino

Individually, he has been in fifa and Uefa pro 11 trice. Is it because he do not have ucl and wc (which are team effort) that make u feel he is not a great defender. Or you want to tell me if sylva was to play for either Barca or Madrid or Bayern he will not bench one of the CB there. Since talent wise he is on par or even above the likes of Ramos, Varane, Pique, masquerano, terry, Vidic, etc, it is safe to call him great. These are the things fifa check too.

raumdeuter:
Basically you are saying Zouma is brainless like a bricklayer

So if Thiago retires like he should soon, Zouma will also retire. Anytime Thiago is injured Zouma should be benched

You don ever see me hail Zouma to be a great defender. Zouma na brawn without brain. Him go shine for Bayern Liga sha.

Thecassanova:
I don’t agree.

Kante has track record playing in midfield two, with players like Pogba, Matic, even Drinkwater. Winning major trophies in all events.

Has Kovacic had any record that atleast we can compare with in the past to know if he’s not the problem? Under previous coach like Sarri or Lampard was Jorginho Kovacic partnership really that perfect?

Im not saying Kante is the problem neither Kovacic but both of them can not play together due similarity in their play; both are roamer, with that they miscalculate their position and this confusion is an advantage for opponent to always capitalize on. Those players you mentioned play differently from Kante.

Amoto94:
Wenger on Saints' goal: "It is an art of bad defending from Chelsea. Zouma is turned completely and the space between him and Azpilicueta, look where James is. He should be in there and Azpilicueta much more in. There is no communication, but what the striker does is exceptional"
Source: Blue_Footy

Thats what you get when you play Zouma without sylva. Zouma in this tactics will nothing, he is not technical with the ball. He can’t push opponent backward with intelligent play like sylva. He is just a combative defender that is strong in the air.

raumdeuter:
Dont mind hensben. Liverpool last 11 games in the league they have failed to score in 6, how do win when you dont score, abi na VVD dey make them score

So you don’t know VVD starts most attack for Liverpool from the back.

iamJ:
guy disappointed me with the way he called out hudson, get as chelsea be, that method no dey work

I don't even know why he is angry, hudson excels at a particular position, you are forcing him to play somewhere else, he doesn't perform and you are angry, let me see what he does against atletico, that team doesn't have bite

Our attack lack bite too, no creative. Tammy is not chelsea level honestly. They should practice shooting skills.

iamJ:

This one is strong. Tuchel go shout tire. He should be calming down, he look easily frustrated.

iamJ:
Klopp's tactics is fighting against him

Its injury to his defenders that disrupted the team. I laugh when some of you here join Raumdeuter to talk VVD down, that guy starts attack from the back, or is it his defending skills and leadership.