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Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (3); Church Vs Ecclesia by Hiswordxray(m): 8:59am On Nov 15, 2020
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Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (4); Comparing The Practices In Different Centuries by Hiswordxray(m): 8:56am On Nov 15, 2020
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Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (5); The Apostolic Worker by Hiswordxray(m): 8:56am On Nov 15, 2020
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Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (6); Was Timothy The Bishop by Hiswordxray(m): 8:56am On Nov 15, 2020
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Religion / Re: Growing In The Prophetic As A Normal Christian by Hiswordxray(m): 8:52am On Nov 15, 2020
Yes another wonderful Sunday
Religion / Re: Growing In The Prophetic As A Normal Christian by Hiswordxray(m): 4:07pm On Nov 01, 2020
Hiswordxray:

And happy Sunday
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Religion / Chasing After Specific Gifts OR Chasing After God's Fullness by Hiswordxray(m): 1:23pm On Nov 01, 2020
If you study living things you will realize that the more advanced a living being is, the more complex it would be. Humans are the most advanced being on earth and they are very complex in everything including anatomy, behavior, relationship, society, and language. God is the most advanced being, and humanity with its complexity is very small in comparison to that of God. Yes, God is the most complex being with infinite dimensions. The power of God cannot be limited to nine gifts. There is no where in Scripture where it says there are only nine gifts of the Spirit. The power of God exists in infinite dimensions, so is the supernatural in Christ. Most often you'll see Christians chasing after one gift or the other, or one supernatural experience/manifestation or the other. But as Scripture says, our thinking is too small (Isa 55:9).

"For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body." (Col 2:9).

When you are in Christ the fullness of God lives in your human body. Yes, through the New Covenant God has given all of himself. All of his power in its infinite dimensions now lives in us. It would be silly to just focus on manifesting one tiny dimension. And it will be frustrating to chase them one after the other. Some Christians would say, "I will first chase the prophetic, then I will focus on chasing power, after that I will move to the glory dimension, then I will..." You can't pursue them one by one like that because they are infinite. The prophetic alone has infinite dimensions. There are dim within dimensions. It is not possible to chase them one by one unless your vision and thinking is limited.

God doesn't just want you to manifest some part of himself. He rather wants you to be an expression of his fullness, and it will take you all of eternity to chase this fullness one by one. The best way to go about this is to chase after God himself. Desire to become one with God because when you are one with God then he can easily express his infinite dimensions through you. The ancient Christian mystics were chasing after oneness with God, as such they were manifesting things beyond the nine gifts. These people would communicate with one another telepathically, they would levitate, lift up things with superhuman strength, teleport, become invisible, walk through walls, climb walls like gecko, walk and breathe under water, walk on top water, sleep in fire, hide in ice, shrink into the size of an ant, turn into pure light, and so on. Yes, they manifest the supernatural in infinite ways.

You cannot pursue these things one by one. But when you become one with God you will be able to move in his infinite power. Jesus never practiced how to walk on water before the day he decided to do it. When you are one with the One who is beyond impossibility, you will be able to do anything even if you only just thought of it at that very moment. This oneness with God is what we are chasing. We are not after the prophetic or healing power. We are only using these things as case study as we learn more about God and how to become one with him. Hence, in this course our goal is oneness with God, and our desire is to be able to manifest his fullness and infinite dimensions.

If you are interested in joining the course you can reach me through the link below and introduce yourself, then I will add you.

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Religion / Re: Growing In The Prophetic As A Normal Christian by Hiswordxray(m): 10:26am On Nov 01, 2020
Hiswordxray:
Happy New month people
And happy Sunday
Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (1); The Organic Process by Hiswordxray(m): 10:22am On Nov 01, 2020
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Happy New month people
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Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (2); Elder, Bishop, Pastor by Hiswordxray(m): 10:20am On Nov 01, 2020
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Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (3); Church Vs Ecclesia by Hiswordxray(m): 10:19am On Nov 01, 2020
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Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (4); Comparing The Practices In Different Centuries by Hiswordxray(m): 10:18am On Nov 01, 2020
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Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (5); The Apostolic Worker by Hiswordxray(m): 10:17am On Nov 01, 2020
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Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (6); Was Timothy The Bishop by Hiswordxray(m): 10:17am On Nov 01, 2020
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Happy New month people
And happy Sunday
Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (1); The Organic Process by Hiswordxray(m): 6:36am On Nov 01, 2020
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Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (2); Elder, Bishop, Pastor by Hiswordxray(m): 6:23am On Nov 01, 2020
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Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (3); Church Vs Ecclesia by Hiswordxray(m): 6:23am On Nov 01, 2020
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Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (4); Comparing The Practices In Different Centuries by Hiswordxray(m): 6:23am On Nov 01, 2020
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Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (5); The Apostolic Worker by Hiswordxray(m): 6:22am On Nov 01, 2020
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Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (6); Was Timothy The Bishop by Hiswordxray(m): 6:22am On Nov 01, 2020
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Religion / Re: Growing In The Prophetic As A Normal Christian by Hiswordxray(m): 6:22am On Nov 01, 2020
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Religion / Re: Growing In The Prophetic As A Normal Christian by Hiswordxray(m): 8:02pm On Oct 25, 2020
Hiswordxray:
Happy Sunday beloved of God
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Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (1); The Organic Process by Hiswordxray(m): 10:49am On Oct 25, 2020
Everything Christian is based on Life (Christ). The moment we base it on anything other than that we would end up producing a caricature.
Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (3); Church Vs Ecclesia by Hiswordxray(m): 10:47am On Oct 25, 2020
Blabbermouth:

Hey DappaD, you can grasp a thing or two from this guy's article and see also why denomination was never Yah's plan or Yahshua's prototype of Christianity.
Thanks.

You are also permitted to copy and share this article together with the rest of the series. Or you can refer to the blog where I achieved the whole series. Here is the link to the blog:
https://exodus-ecclesia..com

Christians need to know this truth. Let's spread it so that it could reach people. The body of Christ must understand what God really wants from us
Religion / The Pastoral Office (6); Was Timothy The Bishop by Hiswordxray(m): 10:42am On Oct 25, 2020
One of the fundamental characteristics of an ecclesia is independence. You cannot practice democracy unless you are independent. Democracy is a concept only for independent entities. Before the colonial masters came most Igbo communities of Nigeria were practicing direct democracy. But when the colonial master came they discovered it is impossible to rule a people under democracy. Democracy is all about power being in the hands of the people. You cannot enforce your government on a people unless you take the power from their hands. So the colonial British had to disband the democratic system and installed Eze (kings) in each Igbo community. Then they ruled the communities through those Eze who were puppet kings.

It is not possible for Timothy to be their bishop without disbanding the democratic system of the ecclesia. And the moment he does that then they are no longer an ecclesia. An ecclesia without democracy is not an ecclesia any more. So Timothy would have to destroy the ecclesia that Jesus said he would build (Matt 16:18-19) if he was to be their bishop. It is totally absurd to claim Timothy was their Bishop, there are no bases for such claim. You won't find any bases in the scripture, and you won't find any bases in the very ideology behind the ecclesia system.

Ecclesia can only exist as independent groups, governing themselves. They cannot be under anybody. They have their own government, they rule themselves, that is the whole idea of an ecclesia. The idea of one church being under another church, and having a headquarter, that is not Christian assembly/community. Or that one man is governing several churches, like some kind of business enterprise. That is just people's ministry, it is not Christian assembly, neither is it the ecclesia that Jesus said he would build. Ecclesias are independent groups, governing themselves by themselves. It doesn't matter if you were the one that planted the ecclesia, you have no right over its government.

British were the ones who brought the difference communities in the Niger area together and made them a nation. They gave the nation the name "Nigeria". If Nigeria was to be a Christian community, you will say the British were the founder and the G.O. But the moment Nigeria gain independence and got a democratic government, British no longer have right in the government of the people. Yes, from time to time, Nigeria can request aid from British or America or any other nation, but that does not mean Nigeria is under such nation.

Just because American soldiers came to aid Nigeria in the fight against Boko Haram, doesn't mean that America governs Nigeria. So also, just because Timothy came to handle certain things in the ecclesia of Ephesus doesn't mean that Timothy is their overseer. Aid does not equal government. And you do not automatically become someone's lord just because you help them. Christ is the only Lord and head in an ecclesia. Pastors are not the head, there is nothing like "head pastor". Rather their are several pastors in an ecclesia, forming the central executive that is answerable to the general executive which constitute the whole members of the ecclesia.

This post belongs to a series. To fully understand what is being discussed here, check out the rest of the series from my profile or visit:
https://exodus-ecclesia..com
Religion / Re: Growing In The Prophetic As A Normal Christian by Hiswordxray(m): 10:34am On Oct 25, 2020
Happy Sunday beloved of God
Religion / Re: Growing In The Prophetic As A Normal Christian by Hiswordxray(m): 8:29pm On Oct 18, 2020
Still on
Religion / Re: Growing In The Prophetic As A Normal Christian by Hiswordxray(m): 1:55pm On Oct 18, 2020
Hiswordxray:
Happy Sunday beloved of God
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Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (1); The Organic Process by Hiswordxray(m): 10:41am On Oct 18, 2020
Hiswordxray:
Check my profile for the rest of the series
or visit:
https://exodus-ecclesia..com
Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (3); Church Vs Ecclesia by Hiswordxray(m): 10:41am On Oct 18, 2020
Hiswordxray:
Check my profile for the rest of the series
or visit:
https://exodus-ecclesia..com
Religion / Re: The Pastoral Office (2); Elder, Bishop, Pastor by Hiswordxray(m): 10:40am On Oct 18, 2020
Religion / The Pastoral Office (5); The Apostolic Worker by Hiswordxray(m): 10:37am On Oct 18, 2020
When I was teaching about the apostle I mentioned that an apostle is not a ecclesia planter. But he is one who comes with the blueprint, and demonstrate that blueprint while teaching other people to do the same work. These people become apostolic workers, their job is to go forth and plant ecclesia, nurture the ecclesia and make sure they are strong enough to survive this harsh world. That was what Paul was doing, he took Timothy and some other people with him as he goes about planting ecclesias. He did so in order to practically teach them how the work should be done. Practical teaching involves giving them tasks. So Paul gave them some task, he would send them to certain cities to do certain apostolic work.

The work of an apostolic worker is to set the structure and ensure that an ecclesia grows into maturity, fully functional and healthy. It is like gardening. You will not only plant, but you will also nurture, water, trim, and care for the plant till it is mature enough and start bearing fruit. An apostolic worker is not the overseer of the ecclesia, that is the work of the elders; "From Miletus he sent to Ephesus and called for the elders of the church. And when they had come to him, he said to them: “... the Holy Spirit has made you overseers [bishops]" (Acts 20:17,18,28). Timothy was not the bishop of Ephesus, you will not see that anywhere in Scripture.

Paul asked Timothy to remain in Ephesus and play the role of an apostolic worker, nurturing and caring for them till they come into maturity. An apostolic worker is not the overseer, he is just a minister. Ecclesias are independent entities, like plants. The work of a gardener is not to enter into the plant and start telling it where to grow branch and where not to grow branches. The plant is an independent entity, it has a life of it own, and it is governed by the life within it.

The work of a gardener is not to govern the plant but to watch it grow, give it water when it need it, trim it, do whatever is required so that the plant would grow by itself (independent of the gardener) into what it was meant to be. The gardener does not dominate the plant or control it like a puppet. We human are so possessive and such a control freak. But if you have ever been a farmer you will have been impressed by that feeling of helplessness, knowing that a lot of things are not under your control. An apostolic worker does not try to control the ecclesia. He is not their lord or overseer, he only comes in with his ministry and minister to them

The brother through which ministry the ecclesia in Lagos emerge, he is not our overseer. He has no say in any of our decisions. Although we respect him and we would invite his input in certain things, but the ecclesia always have the finial say. And when things are going bad in an ecclesia, it is wise to invite an expert that knows how to make an ecclesia healthy. It's like going to a doctor, you will do everything the doctor ask you to do because you want to get better, but that doesn't mean the doctor is your king. He is just carrying out a service and you submit to his service because you trust him and you want to get better soon.

The apostolic ministry of nurturing, caring or gardening a ecclesia is like that of a doctor service. Doctors are not our kings, we go to them when we need their service, but after that service we go our way, they have no control over our lives. We can even decide whether to follow their advice or not to follow them. Doctors are not lord over our lives. I have stayed too long on this I just hope you understand. As ecclesia continues to emerge in this generation we would need a lot of apostolic workers, who serve as ecclesia doctors—experts who know how to treat an ecclesia, make it healthy and glorious.

A lot of people have tried to do ecclesia and it broke down. We need to have experts who can be called upon whenever an ecclesia feels they are unhealthy, or they feel they need an upgrade. Ecclesia can be started by novice, and may need an expert to properly organize them together to grow healthy or become more glorious/victorious. Frank Viola and his friends offer such services in America, they call themselves "workers". They've planted several ecclesias and help others to be healthy, yet they are not G.Os (general overseers).

In fact, they have no jurisdiction in those ecclesia outside of the services of nurturing and organizing the structure. And this service can be rejected or embraced by the ecclesia, they cannot force themselves on anyone. Timothy ministry was to nurture the ecclesia in Ephesus. He was not the bishop, the elders were the bishop (the overseers), he was only an apostolic worker with a special ministry that can be likened to that of a gardener. Apart from Timothy Paul trained many other people who went and planted some other ecclesias. Epaphras trained under Paul in Ephesus and he went to plant the ecclesia in Colossae.

So Paul was sending people to different places to carry out certain tasks. They were co-ministers with Paul. And some of them, like Timothy, remain doing the work that Paul assigned them to do even after Paul's death. They were all ministers; apostolic workers and teachers. Bishop is not a ministry, it is a responsibility that a elder carries out as a member of an ecclesia.

A believer can be a teacher in Lagos, and be ministering in the several ecclesias in Lagos. Such a person would be going around Lagos, holding teaching programs in each of the ecclesia, teaching and training them. This was exactly what Apollo was doing, in fact that was how every minister do ministry. They visit each ecclesia, minister to them and go to the next. They were not governing them or overseeing them, that was the work of the elders in each ecclesia. Ministers are in transit in an ecclesia, they never settle in a particular ecclesia and take over it. It does not belong to them, it belongs to the Lord

There was an ecclesia I visited in Lagos, a teacher came to them to minister and they hosted him. We held a 3 days programme in that ecclesia and this teacher ministered. When ministry was done we returned back to normal ecclesia, and this teacher moved on with his ministry. That was how they did it in the 1st century. Timothy probably visited each ecclesia in Ephesus, ministered to them, reminding them of Paul's teaching, exhorting them to remain true to those teachings, and do some nurturing and structuring services before moving to the next. That was his ministry, and an ecclesia can decide to embrace that ministry or reject it. He is not the owner of any ecclesia, they are independent entities.

This post belongs to a series. To fully understand what is being discussed here, check out the rest of the series from my profile or visit:
https://exodus-ecclesia..com

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