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I believe the Lord is doing something very mighty in this age. He is emphasizing the need for each one of us to grow into his fullness, and he is providing the resources to attain that.

Happy Sunday beloved of God

They say the position of leadership can cause one to grow faster. This happens because once we are given responsibilities, the mere struggle of trying to meet up to those responsibilities will eventually lead to growth. In the church system the congregation are mostly passive, they have almost no responsibility. All they have to do is make it to church, dance and sing when it's dancing and singing time, shout hallelujah when they are asked to shout hallelujah, sit when they are asked to sit, stand when they are asked to stand, basically they are just like dummies wanting for the people on the pulpit to tell them what to do.

When people are abandoned to such a state it becomes difficult for them to grow. But give them some responsibilities and just watch how fast they will grow. This is why there will be faster growth among Christians in ecclesia then in church. In the ecclesia, everyone has a responsibility to go draw from God and share with the group. The only reason pastors tend to be the most spiritually mature people in the church is because they are overlaid with the responsibility to have a sermon every Sunday and strengthen the rest of the church.

As such the pastors have to spend more time with the word, they have to study it harder, and they have to press hard on God to give them a word. But the other members of the church do not have such responsibility, so they don't care. I remember one time in school I was studying my Bible on my bed, and I hard four Bibles (different translations) spread out on that bed. I was seriously digging into the Scripture. My roommate saw me and was like, "Do you really need to kill yourself over it, you are not even the pastor, just read the one you can read and go your way".

This same roommate had read his bible that morning, but he did it religiously, "after all I am not the pastor", he must have thought to himself. In the church we've encouraged this mentality that since you are not the pastor then you don't need to know how to heal, perform miracle, preach the word, communicate with people on a spiritual level and draw them close to God, pray for people, encourage them, and inspire them. But if you are a pastor and you can't do these things, then you know you are going to lose your job or your members.

Pastors spend more time praying and fasting because they need to manifest power otherwise their reputation suffers. They need to know enough scripture, preach more eloquently, be more friendly and caring, and show concern for the people, drawing closer to them to know them and know the problems they are going through. If they don't do this their job will suffer, they might lose members and offering baskets will become empty, and they will have no food. They have a responsibility, and this responsibility have force them to grow in status.

Imagine all the members having this same responsibilities, but with different motivations (more godly motivations). They all have to study the bible otherwise the fellowship will be boring. Each member have to press hard to get a word from God for specific persons or for the general congregation. They must all draw each other close to know each other problems, for they are all responsible for each other. No member can keep to himself, he must open up, he must care for the other, show concern and get intimate with others.

If anyone is sick everybody is responsible for getting that person healed. If no one could do it then shame on the whole assembly. If something terrible should happen to any member, everybody is responsible, because they should have seen it before it happened, they should have been praying and interceding for one another until God show them what is coming and how to avert it. They are all responsible, and this responsibility will cause each one of them to grow.

As an ecclesia member you know that if you don't grow your beloved brethren with suffer, and because of your love for them you cannot remain immature. You want to help, you want to be a source of blessing to the assembly, and as you press like this you are growing faster than you would have imagined. That's the beauty of ecclesia.

I have written other posts on ecclesia versus church, below is a link to the posts:
https://www.hiswordxray.com/p/the-vine-apostolic-ministry.html

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Here are screenshot of another Facebook page that I started to work on almost two weeks ago. The first screenshot is before I started working on the page, and the second is today's screenshot of the Facebook page.

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Here are screenshot of another Facebook page that I started to work on almost two weeks ago. The first screenshot is before I started working on the page, and the second is today's screenshot of the Facebook page.

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Truvel:
I Want 2 Teach U? Lol, I'm Only Giving My Opinion In Ur Topic. It Seems U Are Feeling Insecure Abt My Comments 2 Ur Post Or I'm Trying 2 Discourage U Or People D People Following Thread. No, My Dear. Continue.

See, don't deceive yourself, be honest to yourself. If you were simply giving an opinion you would have said it once and moved on. But the fact that you keep hammering on it, as if trying to force it down my throat. That is not giving an opinion oh, except you want to deceive yourself. Anyway, if that makes you feel better you can continue to tell yourself that.

Or you can face the truth and deal with whatever that is in you that is causing you to feel you need to go about trying to force your teaching (or opinion as you called it) down people's throat.

Truvel:
Y Sounding As If I'm Proud, I Want 2 Teach Everybody.

I am just trying to understand why you feel you need to teach me these things. And what usefulness is your comments on this trend?

Anyway, I won't blame you for anything. I will blame the situation of the Church today, and its failure to teach us how to fellowship with each other rather than engaging in endless debate. If we know how to fellowship with one another then rather than engaging in debate each time a Christian meet another Christian, we would fellowship with each other.

The very concept of fellowship is lost. And right now we don't know what fellowship is neither do we know how to fellowship with one another, so bring out debate topics that profits no one.

johnemmafe:


Brother you're very correct sir. But instead of teaching men how to move in the prophetic, why don't ypu teach them intimacy with God; friendship with God. 'cos its here the prophetic unlocked for the normal believer.

Check John 15:15.

Friends talk, friends meet.
Stay in God's presence, make out time to pray everyday: keep to the time.

Pray in tongues, keep talking to him everyday (maybe 30 mins, or 1 hour everyday), stay in prayer until you hear him.

I hope you saw this picture? Can you see intimacy written all over it?

johnemmafe:


Brother there's a difference between the gift of prophecy and the prophetic office.
A believer who wasn't called into the office of a prophet can manifest the gift of prophecy. The only difference is that he may not exhibit the gifts at will while a man operating from the office of a prophet stays in the realm of the prophetic.

Things are more complicated than that. The things of the Spirit are usually more complex than what we would like to assume.

Truvel:
Elijah & Moses Are Prophets. Samuel Is A Prophet(seer) Samuel Did Not Distribute Any Gift 2 Anyone. Doze People Who Were With Samuel Are Prophets In Training(upcoming Prophets). Samuel Was Their Leader.D Topic Abt Dis Is, Very Wide & May Take Time 2 Explain. We Av :
D Office Of A Prophet (ministry Gift)
D Prophetic Ministry
D Gifts Of Prophecy
D Spirit Of Prophecy

Nice to see you have some knowledge. But in life one can never stop learning. And the technique that will enable you learn more is to humble yourself and try to learn from others. Rather than going about trying to teach everybody, as if I told you I don't know those things or that I need your explanation or your theology.

Very fact that I teach on the prophetic should tell you that I know well enough on the basics on the prophetic. If you want to teach me, why not find out what I know first then you pick up from there? Rather than galavanting your infant knowledge about. Just a word of advice

Truvel:
I'm Not Doubting D Fact Dat U May Av Helped Many People. It's Possible. My Point Is Dat D Prophetic Is A Gift Of D Spirit & Not Something Anyone Would Just Manifest. Since U Av Helped Many People Abt It, Continue With It.

Which gift of the Spirit did Moses and Elijah had when they moved in the prophetic?

Was Samuel distributing gifts of the Spirit when he started a school of the Prophetic in Israel?

And which gift of the Spirit Jesus had when he prophesied?

The idea of "gifts of the Spirit" only appeared in the Paul's letters. However, people have been moving in the prophetic long before Paul's great grandfather was born. So trying to classify a long aged manifestation base on a term/idea that recently appeared is just pathetic. Where was gifts of the Spirit when those other people were moving in the prophetic?

Here are screenshot of another Facebook page that I started to work on almost two weeks ago. The first screenshot is before I started working on the page, and the second is today's screenshot of the Facebook page.

Here are screenshot of another Facebook page that I started to work on almost two weeks ago. The first screenshot is before I started working on the page, and the second is today's screenshot of the Facebook page.

Here are screenshot of another Facebook page that I started to work on almost two weeks ago. The first screenshot is before I started working on the page, and the second is today's screenshot of the Facebook page.

Hiswordxray:

Happy weekend

Happy Sunday people

Hiswordxray:

Happy weekend

Happy Sunday people

Happy Sunday people

Truvel:
Ministry Gift & Spiritual Gifts Are Not Dsame. U Can't Grow In D Prophetic If U Don't Av D Gift.

That's what you think, but I have helped many people without the gift grow in the prophetic. I don't even have the gift either.

Whether gifts or no gift, the Bible says we have the mind of Christ (1Cor 2:16), we have the Spirit which search the deep things of God (1Cor 2:10), and it also says we know all things (1John 2:20). Simple faith in these scriptures will take you places. Jesus said just have faith like a mustard seed.

High theology will do you no good.