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harkindele: Dey take errytin as jokes, I neva knew we still have infant brains like u on NL, u are one of d horrible things I have to come across if m to live, I understand.

harkindele: Are u really this dumb? Or u just pretending to be a useless mofo?

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italo: No problem. Since you and St Paul are also on parallel lines.

He says he was appointed an apostle by Christ.

You disagree!

italo: You didnt think Paul was an apostle appointed by Christ...

But Paul says so himself.

You disagree...yet you call us heretics...and laugh at us.

1Cor4:14 This, then, is how you ought to regard us: as servants of Christ and as those entrusted with the mysteries God has revealed.

Yet you dont think anyone has a special teaching role within the Church.

Yet you laugh at us...

...unfortunately, I cant laugh back at you.

I am worried for your soul.

italo: Firstly, I do not regard King James version as a faithful interpretation of God's word. I see it as an adulteration. But that is another matter.

Secondly, Apostles are disciples, but not all disciples are Apostles. The Apostles were Jesus' closest disciples, His inner circle (Mark 3:13-14; Luke 6:12-13 for instance) and thus received the entirety of Christ's teaching. Even more, apostleship is an office of the Church established by Christ; whereas discipleship is a belief/lifestyle.

Paul was made an apostle by Christ while Timothy and the present day priests and bishops are successors of the apostles. So they also receive these priestly faculties by laying of hands.

italo: Firstly, I do not regard King James version as a faithful interpretation of God's word. I see it as an adulteration. But that is another matter.

Secondly, Apostles are disciples, but not all disciples are Apostles. The Apostles were Jesus' closest disciples, His inner circle (Mark 3:13-14; Luke 6:12-13 for instance) and thus received the entirety of Christ's teaching. Even more, apostleship is an office of the Church established by Christ; whereas discipleship is a belief/lifestyle.

Paul was made an apostle by Christ while Timothy and the present day priests and bishops are successors of the apostles. So they also receive these priestly faculties by laying of hands.

italo: Ah!

I am all too familiar with thid lame tactic too.

You cant handle my position so you make up a position for me and argue against it.

Where did I say some Christians are more christian than others?

To think that you even used the (" marks show the extent of your deceit.

All to divert attention fron that flawed article of yours.

Weak! And you know it.

Ubenedictus: actually my dear, though i don't believe in your idea of half gospel and full gospels i have to let you know that those who recieved the commision directly are the apostles only. Just so you know.

i thought you'll remember this passage Paul, an apostle appointed not by human beings nor through any human being but by Jesus christ... gal 1:1, u may also look at gal1:11, so you don't know that timothy was made a presbyter? Or you don't know d english word 'priest' is from the greek word presbyter? You may read 1st timothy if you doubt that timothy is a presbyter. i think i explained the part on different offices in the body of Christ in my previous post.

Ubenedictus: it is a pity you don't know or refuse to know the christian have "offices" that are different from other, some are apostles other presbyter others prophets e.t.c. If you really don't remember the passage of scripture that says that, just let me know i'll remind you. Some christians aren't more 'christian' than others what italo is saying is that we share in the ministry of christ in different degrees.
Let me ask you, why do you think james say when you are sick we should call the presbyter of the church and not just another brother?
I'll leave you with that.

do you even know how the kjv came about? Go make some research about the kjv, when you are thru u can go argue with italo all you want.

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harkindele: How important is the genotype stuff b4 marrying a lady?, I am AS and my girlfriend is AC, and we are not ready to quit d relationship because of this fact. M really confused cos we have a very perfect relationship...n don't wanna loose her. Can we overlook our genes and get married anyway?

Fxwarrior: Someone help me.

JAkpayen: Sell EU and GU with month-end flow/profit taking in sight. Target 1.3100 for EU and 1.5200 for GU, SL @ this week's high

chaircover: Infidelity is one of the major causes of marriage breakups.

How many people whilst courting ever own up and say "Yes, there is a great possibility that I am going to have a roving eye" when we get married.

Chukskalidon: established local champion

italo: Do you seriously want to discuss KJV here and now? I think not.




Awww! He doesnt even know that the apostles and leaders of the church had a special teaching and priestly office.

How can I help you? The deficiency is acute.

Please read these passages to see that and also to see how the apostles appointed more priests.

1 Cor 4:1,Acts 13:3, 14:22, 1:24-26, and Titus 1:5

naijababe: I am amazed! My hubby and I didn't do any conference before we got married o, about the only thing that came up was number of kids and even that changed after the kids started to arrive.

I think if two people are fully committed and always talk to each other, there's no reason why a marriage should not!

You can discuss all you want but the reality is that life is dynamic, as long as issues get tackled together, there should not be too much wahala along the way that you won't be able to handle together.

UncleDumo: Permit me to use your comment on my facebook page. full credit will be given to you. Thanks in advance.

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debrief08: Thank You CC
Damiso you hit the nail on the head with the "completes verse compliments" comment.
I find people rushing to marry especially young ladies becsue they are running from poverty and looking for a saviour.
African Magic doesn't help too because they show the stories of a man rescuing and marrying a poor village girl and transforing her life.
Then when a girl has a heart brek there is always some man at a resturant or in a jeep who rescues her while she is crying and walking down the streets.
That's too much pressure on anyone.
People should learn to make peace with themselves and sort out major issues they struggle with and not dump them on someone else who probably has to deal with his/ her own issues.
Marriage is not about finding someone to do something you cannot eg provide financially, cook, sweep, clean.
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CFCfan: Absolutely! Both spouses should contribute to the running of the home.

greatgod2012: Sorry for seeing this thread late.
@op, this your thread is tasking o, but I will try and simplify it as easy as possible.

First of all, NEVER GO INTO MARRIAGE WITH THE IMPRESSION OR BELIEF THAT YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR PARTNER. WHATEVER YOU THINK YOU CAN'T TAKE IN MARRIAGE SHOULD NEVER BE TAKEN IN COURTSHIP, WITH THE AIM OF CHANGING IT AFTER MARRIAGE, ITS EITHER YOU TRASH IT OUT OR IF THE OTHER PERSON REFUSE TO CHANGE, CALL IT OFF. For example, I called my first relationship off with a guy because he's a liar. Laying a good foundation can never be over emphisised in marriage. If you don't takkle any problem you discover from the foundation, I mean from the courtship, don't bother changing the person after marriage.

Now, to what to discuss b4 marriage.............

YOUR BACKGROUND.......... Make your background known to each other, like your race or tribe, your culture, your tradition in your family, etc and ask if both of you are comfortable with each other's background. Also, under this, you also got to speak about your pasts, and ask if you are both comfortable with each other's past.
YOUR TEMPERAMENT.................... Discuss about your temperament, whether extrovert or introvert, whether choleric or sanguine or melancholy or phlegmatic and discuss about how you are going to blend your temperament in such a way that it will be beneficial for both of you in your marriage. Read books on it(I recommend 'why you act the way you do' and opposite attracts' both by Tim Lahaye) and see how you can tackle the weaknesses and tap the strenghts.

YOUR RELIGION............ Talk about your religion, are you both comfortable with your religion, if you are not in the same religion, who will compromise, if you two are going to practise different religion, whose religion will the children practise.

YOUR FAMILY.......... This include your children and your inlaws. How many children do you want to have. Discuss thoroughly on this.
Also, your inlaws, do you love his parents and does he love your parent. Do you love his siblings and does he love your siblings. Does he want to be identified with your people and are you ready to be identified with his people. Pls, don't forget that inlaws are part of determining factors in the success of any marriage.

YOUR FINANCE........... This is very important. Discuss about your source of income. Financial issues are a bone of contention in many marriages. The way funds are appropriated in a marriage should be given serious attention and resolved before tying the knot, in order to avoid bitter arguement and quarrels in the home. Some of the things to ask as far as finances is concerned include
~what is you both view on being extravagant, thrifty or stingy.
~are we going to have a joint account or separate account.
~who will control the family expenditure.
~are we going to share expenditure.
~do you know both income, I mean, do you both know how much each of you earn.
Who is fussy about financial accountability between you both.

To be continued.

TV01: Apologies, I saw your thread late and hoped I could find a piece I'd written but never posted which speaks to your question. Here it is;

Almost all potential problems within marriage can be dealt with – or one could say stem from a failure to “deal with issues” – foundationally.

By foundationally, I mean two things. 1. Proper preparation of an individual for marriage (nothing to do with potential partners here, this is about your development, correct understanding and proper expectation) and 2. Courtship

In fact, I’m personally yet to see a broken marriage where the issue was not apparent – even if ignored – during courtship (if there was one).

Noting that I mean a suitably ordered courtship and proper due diligence (with recourse to family, faith etc.). Indeed, then the only real issue (and still a relatively minor one at this point) is whether to proceed on the basis of any perceived problematic areas.

The decision to knowingly do so, even if you regret it later is your responsibility. If he/she is angry/immature/a drunkard/violent/abusive/spendthrift etc. but you “thought you could change him/her” or “he/she would mature”. But they didn’t/wouldn’t, and now after 9 years and 3 kids you are fed-up and want out, at least be honest about the root of the problem. Especially when signs are ignored or overlooked because he/she is wealthy/endowed/pretty/with an extra portion of booty or swag etc.

In short, if you are not prepared as in 1., courtship as in 2., may fail it’s full purpose. If both 1 and 2 are in place I can pretty much assure you, that your relationship will be all but devoid of any character related issues that are not fairly easily resolved. And if you are wise and have the third – and most important imho - part of this 3 fold knot – which is an abiding faith in God, you have the immutability of His word.

We can all drop our 2 cents worth of advice when a relationship is beset with problems, but in truth, any advice – no matter how good - is only as useful as the willingness & ability of the two individuals to grasp and implement it. Which ironically they would have, if they had the right foundation, which if they had, they probably wouldn’t have the problem in the first place or would be well equipped to deal with it.

If one person in a marital union is effectively “not fit for purpose” as per 1., above, and does not realise this and make the required adjustments, both of them – and any offspring - will suffer and at best endure – but for how long?

Listen carefully; Foundation! foundation!! foundation!!!

Happy to give more detail if required, but this is a starter for 10.

Do not fear. Marrying properly and marrying well makes marriage a joy.

Best
TV