You're Jehovah witness right? I see that from your twisted bible. I do not blame you, i hope you find the light of Christ some day. Good night

Kobojunkie:
Open your eyes to see what is written and stop regurgitating the same foolish nonsense you have fed from the mouths of your mogs!
The above is the same scripture Jesus Christ made reference to in John 10 where He pointed out what God said of Him being a god aka Son of God.
Sons of God aka gods are those who do works of righteousness which included judging all things by God's righteous Standard, not the standards of men in this world. They are called to be just in their dealings, stand up for the week etc., in order that the light of God through them - Isaiah 58 vs 6 - 14. God Himself is the judge of this world as explained in Psalm 82 vs 1.

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If you still want to argue blindly, then kindly waka pass me abeg!

Psalm 82 vs 6 only? Is that how you read? You just go to the bible and pick what you like and throw away everything else. That's how Satan talked to Jesus by picking a verse he likes and throw away everything else. Stop this habit pls. Read the whole psalm 82 from vs one and you'll see it's talking about judgement. gods mean selfish and unrighteous judges of the earth. You can be gods if you want but that's not what Jesus taught.

Kobojunkie:
Again ...1. So the OP pointed it out yet you indicated earliar that Jesus Christ never referred to Himself as a god aka a Son of God?

2. Jesus Christ told you instead that you are not saved until after the end - Matthew 24 vs 12 - 13 & Mark 13 vs 13. You should instead spend your time knowing the Truth of God, Jesus Christ, rather than studying the doctrines and traditions of men(lies) which He warned you were designed to deceive and delude you away from God's Truth - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13.

3. Stop pretending your confusion is everyone else's.

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Read the teachings of Jesus Christ so you can gain understanding of what He said to you over 2000 years ago regarding this topic. Read what is clearly expressed even in Psalm 82 vs 6 to you. Open your eyes!

I guess you want to be right then. There's nothing like gods aka sons of God in the bible

gods and sons of God are two different types of people. gods are judges of the earth while sons of God are followers of Jesus.

This is what the OP taught and what is obtainable in the scriptures. Don't confuse people but if you want to confuse people then you'll first confuse yourself and for this I say sorry to you for your presence state.

Learn this things pls, it's important. The serpent said to Eve, you'll be as gods if you eat the fruit. Why do you think the serpent said that? And why do you think followers of Jesus will also be the same thing the disobedient man became? This is what the OP clearly spelt out to help us understand, if you can't learn them stop trying to confuse people pls.

Kobojunkie:
Again ...1. So the OP pointed it out yet you indicated earliar that Jesus Christ never referred to Himself as a god aka a Son of God?

2. Jesus Christ told you instead that you are not saved until after the end - Matthew 24 vs 12 - 13 & Mark 13 vs 13. You should instead spend your time knowing the Truth of God, Jesus Christ, rather than studying the doctrines and traditions of men(lies) which He warned you were designed to deceive and delude you away from God's Truth - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13.

3. Stop pretending your confusion is everyone else's.

Your logic is not within scripture and not according to study. You need to study to learn, you're just twisting what the bible says.

gods is not aka sons of God. That's not what Jesus says. You're the one saying it and this is not what's obtainable in the scriptures. Endeavor to study pls so you don't let your unnecessary argument lead people astray.

Take time and study. Read the article again to learn and see where you need to adjust. May God help you and may the spirit of Christ lead you.

Kobojunkie:
1. So the OP pointed it out yet you indicated earliar that Jesus Christ never referred to Himself as a god aka a Son of God?

2. Jesus Christ told you instead that you are not saved until after the end - Matthew 24 vs 12 - 13 & Mark 13 vs 13. You should instead spend your time knowing the Truth of God, Jesus Christ, rather than studying the doctrines and traditions of men(lies) which He warned you were designed to deceive and delude you away from God's Truth - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13.

3. Stop pretending your confusion is everyone else's.

Did you read the post at All? Or did you just start arguing about it without reading it?

The OP clearly points out John 10 vs 34 and many other places. Why don't you read the article to learn and understand instead of arguing?

As a Christian and someone who's saved, it's ok to study any thing said within the scriptures. That's a noble thing to do, arguing is tantamount to resistance and that's what the not noble people will do.

Kindly read the article pls and don't start confusing people

[1quote author=Kobojunkie post=115224338]1. What confuses you about that statement there? God's intention from the beginning has been to mine for Himself Sons of God with the make up of His Life and Truth. What part of that confuses you?

2. Be more specific about what verse you refer to as far as judgement.

3. Jesus Christ actually did make reference to that in John 10 vs 34 while responding to the Pharisee. You should in fact spend more time reading up on Him so you learn more about Him than you realize.

4. As I already explained, these epistles do nothing but fold lies into what is the Truth of God. [/quote]

Don't you think you're the one confusing people and yourself along the line when you say gods aka sons of God?

It's clear that gods mean something from the scriptures and the whole context of the statement in psalm 82 is talking about judgement.

Plus Jesus didn't say he's gods, he said he's the son of God. Don't you think Jesus knows better than you? Or do you now know better than even Jesus?

I think you need to read the article again bc the OP explains everything very clearly

Kobojunkie:
You are not a god because you say you are a Christian. You become a god aka Son of God when you know the Truth(Jesus Christ), through continuous submission and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, the Truth, , and are set free from slavery to sin by the Truth to become then a holy/perfect vessel for God - John 8 vs 31 - 44

The OP'S article is just an epistle that seeks to confuse and further delude those who are ignorant of what is God's Trut. According to Jesus Christ, it is only those who stand faithful - in continuous submission and obedience of the teachings and commandment of God's Truth, Jesus Christ- that will be saved - Matthew 24 vs 12 - 13 & Mark 13 vs 13 meaning the process is a life long one that concludes when one is dead.

So long and short is Adam was made a Man, not a Son of God. He died a Man because of his sin, loosing the change to become a Son of God since he did not eat in obedience from the Tree of Life and the Tree of Truth (the Knowledge of good and of evil).

Jesus Christ is God's Truth and Life returned to man, the opportunity for men to gain again that which was lost to them since Adam. And only those who stand faithful till the end will be saved by Him..

Why then didn't the whole of the new testament mention Christians as gods? There's a difference. Read the article again and read further, then you'll get it.

Kobojunkie:
According to scripture, it is only those who do the Will of God that are gods aka Sons of God. All others are sons of men with Adam the first of all men.

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Yes, every first born is preeminent, the bible clearly says Christ is the first born of both living and of dead. Even Jesus says he's the first creation of God and went ahead to say he's the beginning and the end of the works of God. These people do not even know the scriptures. I respect the zeal but if it's not the truth, it'll not sit well in our mind. Only the truth defeats our minds.

Janosky:

Every first born is preeminent, even your Father's first born is preeminent for the same reason Jesus is preeminent.
Abeg, no dey deceive yourself.

What do you say to Revelation 3:14 when Christ says he's the first creation of God? Is Christ also blaspheming?

Preciousgirl:


Jesus wasn't the first creation, Jesus is the Creator!

The dead deliberately exegete Colossians 1 :15 as Christ being God's first creation; that's blasphemy. The Christ is the Creator Himself (Colossians 1:16).

What then is the true meaning of 'firstborn' in Colossians 1:15?

Colossians 1:18
And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, THE FIRSTBORN FROM THE DEAD �, that in all things He may have the PREEMINENCE �.

See: Acts 26:23
...that the Christ would suffer, THAT HE WOULD BE THE FIRST � TO RISE FROM THE DEAD �, and would proclaim light to the Jewish people and to the Gentiles.”

....THAT IN ALL THINGS CHRIST JESUS MAY HAVE THE PREEMINENCE ���

CYBERSOLDIERSre:
mmu Christian supporting Tinubu will taste of the wine cup of the wrath of God.

They will all die miserably.

All those supporting impersonation of Christian bishops will dies shameful deaths.

If God has to kill you for every of your sins, do you know how many times you'd have died. Be compassionate and give people opportunity to repent and come to light for God himself does not want anyone to perish

What do you think Hebrews 1 is talking about? what do you think Daniel 10:21 is talking about? Do you even know what is Michael? You need to learn the Bible without influence from Institutionalized Christianity. Bible does not lie, only people who follow their mind lie.

Jokerman:


Even the Bible got some wordings from other books.

Yes we know the Bible is the most complete book ever.

However, this does not tell you that the Lord Jesus is actually angel Michael....

Jesus is more than an angel

The bible is complete, but if you like you'll be looking for other books and that's how you'll get confused and lost. God has already made provisions for his children so the books is perfect the way it's.

Jokerman:


Hope you know some books were removed from the Bible?

The problem with many people is that they add to the bible in other to make a point. Did the the bible introduce Gabriel as an arch angel? Did the bible introduce Satan as an arch angel? But you've added this things by your own self. That's fine, I knew you'll never agree, I just thought to put it out there that you do not understand grammar and that's why you don't know who Michael is. Anyways bye for now. I pray the grace of God be helps you know more about what you speak of.


[1quote author=Jokerman post=114632689]

My brother.... Michael is not the only Archangel... Gabriel is an Archangel.... Lucifer was a Cherub.... now angels are classed...

Messengers
Warriors
Thrones

Arch messenger- Gabriel

Arch Warrior- Michael

Arch Cherub- Lucifer (before the fall)

The Son of God, is not the same as Archangel Michael...[/quote]

I think the reason you're saying this is bc you don't understand simple truth or grammar. I do not say this to demean you in anyways and so hope ur heart can get what I'm about to say.

I think the predominant reason why you don't know what you're talking about is bc you read the bible out of context and do not read to understand. You just read to support what they already right you.

If you read the verse in Hebrews, and truly understand English language, you'll see that it says Jesus is an angel. In fact it's says "thou art exalted above thy fellows" about Jesus. What's the meaning of fellows and who are these fellows?

Fellows mean equals and these equals are angels.

Now you keep stating it that Michael is not Jesus yet do not even know what Michael means. Michael means the one like God and arch means beginning or sovereign.

So when they said archangel Michael, it means the "beginning/sovereign one like God" who is the beginning and like God? Only Christ is the beginning and is like God. He's the man testified in the beginning to be the image and likeness of God and also the sovereign Lord himself.

Now, you and ur kinds are talking about many arch angels and adding thing to the bible by urself; of which things you bring from other religions into the gospel. These things are all lies. There just two arch angels; Jesus and Satan, and Jesus and his angels defeated Satan and his angels so that light destroys darkness.

Lastly I'll advice you to stop reading outside the bible and stop teaching outside the bible. It's dangerous for your soul. Anyways may grave to learn come to you and may God break ur heart and give you a heart of flesh that can throw away doctrines of men and focus on his word. Stay blessed

Read Isaiah 63:9

Jokerman:
Some school of thought argue that the son (Jesus Christ) is an angel, telling you that Jesus is the same person as Archangel Michael.

Where do they get this misconstrued idea from?? Let's take a peek from their verses of argument.

▪︎Daniel 12:1 "And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book".

Since Michael is the great Prince that stands for the children of Israel, then he must be Jesus Christ himself.

▪︎1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Since Jesus is coming with the voice of the Archangel, and the Bible only mentions one Archangel, Michael, then Jesus must be the same personality as Michael.

What does Archangel mean? It means a chief or leading angel.. Now is Jesus Christ the son of God an angel himself?

REASONS WHY JESUS IS NOT ANGEL MICHAEL NOR IS HE AN ANGEL AT ALL

1. Jesus himself specifically differentiates Himself from angels
Mark 13:32, KJV: But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

The son has greater authority than all angels.


2. The Apostles also differentiated Jesus Christ from Angels
▪︎ St Peter: 1 Peter 3: 21-22
........................ It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
22 who has gone into heaven and is at God’s right hand—with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.

▪︎ St Paul: Hebrews 1:4
Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

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