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REAL TRUTH:
Do you count urself as a sensible and knowledgeable individual??,,, ur submission or comments falls beloww sensibility, neither does implies you re knowledgeable,,,if people like you exit from NL,,,NL wouldn't loose anything whatsoever,,,check my profile and check my posts so far and you try and determine btw you and I who can be said to be knowledgeable,,,,For ur information,,,I still have a thread going on NL that made the front page,,,,but that is nothing to me,,,
People should grow up and stop thinking its their ability to be insultive that makes them intelligent or sensible,,,if the moderator deems it fit for this thread to be in Romance section,,,then it should be their prerogative,,and not some people who lacks decorum to come making insultive statements here,,,

OLAADEGBU:
What you guys are practising is what is called satanic meditation, which is passive. Satans aim is to blank out your minds by making you to clear your minds of all thoughts. This directly opens a door for demonic influence and entrance all in the name of "self realisation" and the attainment of a "higher consciousness." Self realisation is the process where a person learns to control his spirit, while higher consciousness is achieved when a person begins to communicate with various demonic spirits which they call "guide" or "counsellor." This is what you get when you dabble into idolatory.

The Infinite Creator God forbids the worship of other gods and graven images. It is a grievous sin to engage in any form of mental or internal idolatory. We are not to give anyone or anything in heaven or in earth that inward affection, worship, veneration or dependence that is due only to the true God. God also frowns at any form of external idolatory such as when pictures or images of people are being observed as possessing divine powers and are adored either at churches or places of pagan worship because they become idols.

As I said earlier, it is only the true worshippers that will worship God in the Spirit and in Truth. God has not permitted us to use or control our spirit man. God does this at His own will as we receive Jesus as our personal Saviour and Lord at the new birth. The devil and his agents deceive you into thinking that you can use your spirits to do what you want to do when in reality it is the demonic spirits that are using you to perpetrate their diabolical atrocities. There is the spirit world that comprise of God and His angels that are in God's service and there are Satan and his demons and agents that are in Satan's service.

Satan's goal is to teach humans to regain the conscious control of their spiritual bodies which he terms as the "higher Self", "god force" or "the third or fourth dimension." The human spirit is also referred to by these New Agers as "spiritual energy" or "vibrations." So all this visualisation and imagination are the stepping stones to eternal damnation. God wants us to depend on Him and to avoid the overwhelming temptations to sin and the constant awareness of Satan and his kingdom. Do you now see how the devil has deceived a lot of people into idol worshipping?

what is it with u and trying to force your stuff up peoples's ass? nobody here has bugged you about eckhart tolle's works, so why disturb us with your crap?, i find it hard to understand why some people just cant accept the fact that everybody in the world is not the same so not everybody will see and think the same way thats why u have muslims, christians, hindus, budhists, good people, bad people etc, so please dont disturb us with your nonsense, we know you believe we are going to hell for not believing in that which you believe , if your christianity works for you and keeps you happy good for you and am happy for you but please don't disturb us, allow us to go to hell in peace because all this your noise is not going to change anything, after all your God created hell so people like us can go there isn't it? , i dont think you see me on other threads trying to bug people with my believes, peace out

jagunlabi:
Two reasons;
1)I am always on the move,so i can be away from a PC for a lenghty amount of time.
2)And more importantly,i prefer to share whatever we talk about with other nairaland members who frequent this forum.Disidentifying with the ego is something a whole lot of nigerians would dearly need to do to move them towards the spiritual path.

i really agree with u on the nigerians and ego problem!!!
how about through phone?

Pastor AIO:
Guys, I would like to suggest that you are prepared for the fact that often these things come in waves. You might get a period of heightened spiritual awareness but it will ebb for a while before it comes again. I just felt to share that so that you don't feel disappointed or feel that you're doing something wrong if it ebbs.

Also the ego is a very subtle beast. It can even masquerade as the true self that has kllled the ego. That one is quite a neat trick.

yeah i feel you i have noticed that, thanks for the reminder though!!!

jagunlabi:
No,i have not reached the stage where i disengage to such an extent that i will reject relationships like companionship with the opposite sex.I don't think i want to be a monk.Not now,anyway.
Have you read the power of now?I am yet to read that one,but the audio version is on youtube.

yeah i have the power of now, am planning on buying the audio book soon (there are good deals on amazon), i also plan to buy "a new earth" and "stillness speaks", but i really think we should communicate, why do you insist on using nairaland only, ?

jagunlabi:
I have reached that stage,yes.I am always at peace even in situations from which i am supposed to be in stress and fear.

The disidentification with movements of thought going on in my head and becoming the awareness or space that observes them has been achieved.I have achieved the separation of the self from the EGO(the false sense of self)and the results is absolutely amazing.I have become more aware of my ego and my pain body, that the awareness simply dissolves the ego as it arises just like Tolle said.

Being just aware of the ego as it arises is the most amazing thing,and what is even more amazing is watching it dissolve by just focussing the awareness on it.

What are your experiences?

mine is similar to urs as well, i actually know someone that has completely dissolved his ego and achieved a new level of selfless happiness that he even thinks he might never get married or enter a relationship again cos he has stopped seeking for his joy from the external and in other people but he rather finds eternal joy in his heart, so he no longer feels the need to look for his happiness from someone else, he said he now has a new focus in life dedicated to doing charity , i am wondering if you have reached this level cos i envy the person's serene peace, even our other friends wonder why this guy just stopped chasing babes but yet just feels so contented and at ease with himself to now even consider remainig single for life,

jagunlabi:
Hi,humblesoul.We can communicate right here.Whatever aspect of Tolle's work you wish to talk about,you just open a thread on it,or post it in here.We can discuss it at length.This is something we should do publicly and not in the private.

i have gotten to a state where i no longer identify with my mind anymore, in other words i have gotten rid of most of the ego but i still struggle in and out, just wanted to ask have u reached a state of stillness and silence of mind that u feel a certain inner peace that words cant describe, u become so free of worries and real happiness and joy comes from within so you dont look for it elsewhere!!!

@Jagunlabi

Hey Jagunlabi whats up? is there a way we can communicate i also have a passion for eckhart tolle's works, have been looking for someone (especially nigerian) who i can discuss the ego with, please let me know how i can get in touch with you,

manmustwac:
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I never used to bother with the religious section until i came across a topic by JeSoul called The Problem With The Atheist which to me was a bloody insult to my intelligence coz as far as am concerned i don't have a problem. But that topic made me realise that the reason why nigeria is not progressing is because of RELIGION.

The masses {or millions} will rather go to those big massive prayer conventions and pray for wealth health jobs etc. They think that an invisible man is going to come from the sky to solve thier problems. When instead the millions should just march down to Aso Rock and demand change. If change donsen't come then they should riot. Even if 50 or 100 of them get shot or killed its better you die for a cause instead of fighting the Hausas.

i understand how you feel about religion, as u said religion has caused a lot of problems and has given a lot of people excuses but you have to admit there are good muslims, christians, hindus, buhdists etc out there who just go about their normal lives without bugging anyone, and a lot of people also find peace and love in their hearts thru religion!!!

mazaje:
most of the nigerian christians do not respect our rights to be atheist. . . . nairaland is the biggest nigerian discussion forum. . .i come here to show nigerian christians that it is very normal to be an atheist and i show them how inconsistent and ridiculous their assertions are. . .i am not here to convert anybody. . i am here to show nigerian christians that it is very normal to be an atheist since christians and christianity do not have a better argument. . .christians rely ONLY on faith we rely on reason.

your fellow nigerian christians do not believe that either. . .nigerian christians do not believe that atheist have the right to be who they are or believe in what ever they want to believe in, they lie all the time that they don't care but tell them that you are an atheist and see how they will start treating you. . . does the bible not call atheist fools? do christians not believe that atheist are fools because the bible tells them that? the problems is not from us. . .the bible calls us fools for not believing in its more foolish and stupid assertions. . .and hence bible believing christians treat us as fools because their foolish bible tells them so. . . . i  was in nigeria in february and a friend of mine lost his job simply because his openly displayed his agnosticism to his born again female boss. . . .tell  christians that u are an atheist in nigeria and see how they will disparage, ridicule and mistreat you. . .christians have already declared war on atheists. . we just have to fight back. . . .and we fight back by showing them how false the bible and all its assertions are. . .if the bible is true christians will be performing magic. . . . . .the world we live in is not the one that the bible asserts or talks about. . . .

dear mazaje,

firstly i want to correct u, i am a muslim, but i grew up in the christian south amongst christians and i also have christain cousins, so i dont really agree with u that all christians are like that, in my family everyone is left to thier own faith and nobody is ridiculed or disrespected because of what they believe, my approach in life is that when one gets to a certain age u cant force religion down their throat so i just let everyone choose the path that he feels suits him, so if u don't beleive in God then that is your own piece of cake but like i said when i started this thread, some atheist come here and bug people who beilieve in God, i think that is not fair, we respect ur right be be who u are so please respect us too,

Hello Nairalanders,
, this is directed to huxley, mazaje and co, i come in peace so am not here to ask for a fight, i respect your right not to believe in God but why can't you respect the rights of us that believe in God, everyone has a right to be what they want to be, muslim, christian, hindu, sango worshipper, atheists, budhist, etc, But you guys come here everyday trying to force your atheist stuff down our throats, don't you understand that in life everyone is different?, whether you like it or not there will always be christians, muslims, hindus, atheists, armed robbers, prostitutes, footballers, politicians, teachers etc, so why not let go and live your atheist life while we live our religious life, like i said earlier i am not calling for a heated exchange of words am just saying let everyone be free to believe what they want to believe!!!!

doesnt anyone have anything to say!!!!!

guys thanks for your messages keep them coming, i will definately deliver your messages to him cos i initially didnt know what to tell him,

hello nairalanders, i was talking with a friend who just graduated with a 2.2 in chemical engineering from a federal university back in nigeria, and he is feeling depressed because he feels he will not be able to get a job because all the employers are asking for a 2.1, he does not have the financial backing to do a masters, i really don't know what to tell him , he sounds like he has given up, so what do you guys think? what should i say, is there hope for him?

hello nairalanders, i was talking with a friend who just graduated with a 2.2 in chemical engineering from a federal university back in nigeria, and he is feeling depressed because he feels he will not be able to get a job because all the employers are asking for a 2.1, he does not have the financial backing to do a masters, i really don't know what to tell him , he sounds like he has given up, so what do you guys think? what should i say, is there hope for him?

Remii:
Bro Humblesoul

I visit Middle East regularly, Qatar and UAE to be precise and I know that Islamic banks there have fixed deposit account for their customers, instead of blanketly shutting Muslims away from banks there is need to find out the Islamic way of running the accounts.

Like I stated above the term "fixed" is flexible and you could get less or more than agreed amount depending on business outcome. The agreed amount would then serve as a means of making the bank strife to encourage your repeat business,

The prophet of Islam, (SAW) encourage us to learn and expand our depth of awareness, Allahu alam.

Bro Remii, thanks for the update, May Allah keep us on the right path, salam

Scarcast:
I'm lyk you.probably worse!ain't notin wrong wt u.bt wen i'm around ppl i'm comfortable wt i let myself out.i'm a born-introvert.n there definitely ain't smtin wrong wt me!hv a friend(start wt one).n make sure u get married wen u r ready!find sm1 who undastands u.trust me,u dnt wnt 2 spend d rest of ur lyf alone.

IFELEKE:
@Poster,
Nothing Is Wrong With You.
You have carved a Niche for yourself overtime called a Comfort Zone, The only thing you need do is to venture out of this Zone.
If you do this,You will see that there is more fun Outside than Inside.

poshangel:
used to be happy being alone until i let some guy into my life. too much wahala, i had 2 run, now i dont like being alone.
advise: if u like being alone then stay alone.

thanks for ur replies, nice to know am not alone in this, was starting to feel like an alien

ugo_2u:
There is nothing wrong with you, it is just a temperament makeup that you have. There are millions of people like that so you are not alone. Get and read the book "spirit controlled temperament by tim lahaye" to understand your temperament more. happy sunday!

thanks'would try and check it out, hopefully, peaceout

i_laugh:
u r selfish, arrogant and proud.

hello how r u doing, i don't know why u would make a comment like this, but am not like that , but if that's what ur judgement tells u then fine, hav a lovely day,

n-guage:
I've never met anyone like you either, the few people who I know that love being alone are those that judge others. It's not a good thing but it's really not a bad thing too. If you're happy the way you are, keep being yourself.
No, everyone will never be the same. It's little variations like this that make the world work. But I still think you'll enjoy being around people, when you find the right people to be around.

i doubt, am 24, don't really see myself changing just wanted to see if there is anyone out there like that, thanks for your advice though,

ThoniaSlim:
Am guessing your an extreme introvert?

i guess u could say that, but do u think is a bad thing, havent really met anyone like me!!!

n-guage:
If you actually don't judge people and you're really happy being alone. Then there's nothing wrong with you. But I doubt you're really happy being alone, if you did you wouldn't start this thread. No?

thanks for your reply, i really don't judge people, am not God!!, but don't you think we all are different, it is not possible that every one will be an extrovert or social? or what do you think?

ThiefOfHearts:
only child?

no am not the only child, we are three, the others are outgoing not really like me

hello all nairalanders,, all my life i enjoy being alone, i like my space a lot, i just seem to thrive on being alone, i try as much as i want but i can't seem to enjoy being around people, i  don't even tell my problems to people, its not that i think am better than anyone or that i think i don't need people i guess is just the way i am, the more i grow up the more i feel God has made me this way, i even believe i am not suppose to get married, is there anyone out there who feels the same or what do you think of the way i am, please just honest replies, like i said is just the way i am and is not that i hate people!!!

salam here is your answer, may Allah guide us all,

http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/5000

salam , one here

Praise be to Allaah.

Qadar means that Allaah has decreed everything that happens in the universe according to His prior knowledge and the dictates of His wisdom.

Belief in al-Qadar includes four things:

1 – The belief that Allaah knows all things, in general and in detail, from eternity to eternity, whether that has to do with His actions or the actions of His slaves.

2 – The belief that Allaah has written that in al-Lawh al-Mahfooz (the Book of Decrees).

Concerning these two matters Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Know you not that Allaah knows all that is in the heaven and on the earth? Verily, it is (all) in the Book (Al‑Lawh Al‑Mahfooz). Verily, that is easy for Allaah”
[al-Hajj 22:70]

In Saheeh Muslim (2653) it is narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Allaah wrote down the decrees of creation fifty thousand years before He created the heavens and the earth.”

And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The first thing that Allaah created was the Pen, and He said to it, ‘Write!’ It said, ‘O Lord, what should I write?’ He said: ‘Write down the decrees of all things until the Hour begins.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 4700; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.

3 – The belief that whatever happens only happens by the will of Allaah – whether that has to do with His actions or the actions of created beings.

Allaah says concerning His actions (interpretation of the meaning):

“And your Lord creates whatsoever He wills and chooses”

[al-Qasas 28:68]

“and Allaah does what He wills”

[Ibraaheem 14:27]

“He it is Who shapes you in the wombs as He wills”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:6]

And He says concerning the actions of created beings (interpretation of the meaning):

“Had Allaah willed, indeed He would have given them power over you, and they would have fought you”

[al-Nisa’ 4:90]

“If your Lord had so willed, they would not have done it”

[al-An’aam 6:112]

All events, actions and happenings occur only by the will of Allaah. Whatever Allaah wills happens, and whatever He does not will does not happen.

4 – The belief that all things that happen are created by Allaah in their essence, their attributes and their movements.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Allaah is the Creator of all things, and He is the Wakeel (Trustee, Disposer of affairs, Guardian) over all things”

[al-Zumar 39:62]

“He has created everything, and has measured it exactly according to its due measurements”

[al-Furqaan 25:2]

And Allaah tells us that the Prophet of Allaah Ibraaheem (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to his people:

“While Allaah has created you and what you make”

[al-Saaffaat 38:96 – interpretation of the meaning]

If a person believes in all these things then he believes correctly in the divine will and decree (al-qadar).

Belief in al-qadar as we have described it above does not contradict the idea that a person has free will with regard to actions in which he has free choice. He can choose whether to or not to do things that he is able to do of acts of worship or sinful actions. Sharee’ah and real life both indicate that people have this will.

With regard to sharee’ah, Allaah says concerning man's will (interpretation of the meaning):

“That is (without doubt) the True Day. So, whosoever wills, let him seek a place with (or a way to) His Lord (by obeying Him in this worldly life)!”

[al-Naba’ 78:39]

“so go to your tilth, when or how you will”

[al-Baqarah 2:223]

And He says concerning man’s ability (interpretation of the meaning):

“So keep your duty to Allaah and fear Him as much as you can”

[al-Taghaabun 64:16]

“Allaah burdens not a person beyond his scope. He gets reward for that (good) which he has earned, and he is punished for that (evil) which he has earned”

[al-Baqarah 2:286]

These verses confirm that man has a will and the ability to do what he wants and not to do what he does not want.

With regard to real life, everyone knows that he has a will and the ability to do what he wants and not to do what he does not want. And he can distinguish between the things that happen when he wants them to, such as walking, and those that happen without him wanting them to, such as shivering. But the will and ability of man are subject to the will and decree of Allaah, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“To whomsoever among you who wills to walk straight.

And you cannot will unless (it be) that Allaah wills the Lord of the ‘Aalameen (mankind, jinn and all that exists)”

[al-Takweer 81:28-29]

But the entire universe is the dominion of Allaah, and nothing can happen in His dominion without His knowledge and will.

And Allaah knows best.

At the heart of the Islamic prohibition of usury (Riba) is the maxim that if you do not plant, you cannot reap. This constitutes a rejection of the false claim to a ‘time-value’ of money. Money by itself cannot increase over time without any input of labor, or without the risk (of loss or of gain) inherent in an authentic business transaction.

The blessed Prophet declared that any transaction involving an exchange of ‘money’ for ‘money’ must be an equal exchange, i.e., with no difference in amount of money exchanged. He declared that an unequal exchange (that would open the door for money to increase over time) would be Riba. Islam also insists that all business transactions must involve risk – and hence ‘profit’ or ‘loss’. Allah Most High can then intervene to distribute and redistribute wealth by taking from some and giving to others. In this way the rich would not remain permanently rich, and the poor would not be imprisoned in permanent poverty

In his masterpiece entitled ‘Merchant of Venice’, William Shakespeare likened Riba or usury to a ‘pound of flesh’. And in a dream Prophet Muhammad saw the moneylender exposed as a ‘bloodsucker’ since he was standing in a river of blood. We noted earlier that the Prophet cursed “all four”, and declared that “they were all equally guilty—the ones who ‘took’ Riba, ‘gave’ Riba, ‘recorded the transaction’, and ‘the two witnesses’.” Whoever dies with the curse of a Prophet upon him can never escape the hellfire. The Qur’an itself declared that the moneylender would be punished with eternal hellfire:

“Those who devour usury will not stand (before their Lord for Judgment) except as stands one whom Satan by his touch hath driven to madness.That is because they claim that: ‘Business is like lending on interest,’ but Allah hath permitted business and forbidden usury. Those who after receiving direction from their Lord, desist, shall be pardoned for the past; their case is for Allah (to judge); but those who persist (in claiming the interest due from fixed deposits or other such loans on interest) are Companions of the Hellfire; they will abide therein (forever).”
(Qur’an, al-Baqarah, 2:275)

What, then, is the status of someone who makes a ‘Fixed Deposit’ with his money in a bank or any other financial institution? It should firstly be clear that he has not gifted the money. It must also be recognized that he has not entered into a ‘business’ transaction since he is guaranteed the return of his money plus an additional amount. There is no risk. There is no possibility of loss. And hence that is not business! In fact, in making a ‘Fixed Deposit’, he has lent his money on interest (Riba), and has hence become a cursed moneylender.

HOW FAR truequest , am new here, pls how can in start a new topic?