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AnyanwuSK:
Stop lying. Nigerian security were defending jihadic herdsman from the Sahel against ESN.

You're the one lying ,show just one evidence of Nigerian security defending Jihadic herdsmen against ESN .

In as much as no institutionalised security operatives will allow unsanctioned rag tag groups to take laws into their own hands,there's no place where security operatives attacked ESN because of Fulani killers .

smokinloud:
Says who?. The old testament was peaceful, the wars in the old testament was occasional wars compared to the wars Islam wage today. The moon god of Islam was one of the pagan gods in the old testament that made God angry concerning the kingdom of Babylon under king Belshazzar. They feast for 30 days like Ramadan and calm it fasting.

Truly,you're smoking loud !

Old testament peaceful Ke?

Joshua wars ,David wars ,all the judges war ,all the kings war .

If you say Jews were fighting moon or Sun God in the old testament that transforms to Islam god then both Jews and those worshippers were fighting wars but not a particular religion.

Even though Islam has waged several wars in history,it can never be compared to the wars other religions or civilisations waged . War is inherent in human nature and people always find a reason to fight especially because of food or space .

Sobalim:
It's hard for peace to reign in middle East. Any where there's Islam, there will be chaos always

In the old testament,there was no Islam but there was no peace .

Lanre1st:
Well said, but i think EU should just wait for Trump tenure to over and try to align with next US President, else things can get escalated and both party will count their losses

As you've pointed out, things can escalate quickly, and four years can do a lot of damage. Also, once bitten, twice shy ,the EU might want to put a system in place to prevent future maltreatment from the USA.

MadamExcellency:
USA has the money, the economy, the technology, the strongest military and USAID for freebies.What does Europe have? Nothing.

Those freebies are debts ,that's why USA is owing almost 40 trillion dollars debt!

But I've factored USA economy and military before I said they "might" still be strong .

For Europe , alliance can change ,UK and Russia might align with EU but without that ,EU will now be independent and build their own military complex .

What Trump doesn't know is that the existing relations between USA and other countries like Canada and org like EU keep USA strong but Canada and EU weak .

With Trump isolation policy ,the US might keep being strong but Canada and EU will change position from being weak to being strong and a time might come in the future that EU will face USA directly on battlefield.

Odomodoya

SUGARCyprian247:
Those are road side shops!!

Look behind those shops and see mansions

Oh yeah ,mansion on a half plot of land .

papyjaypaul:
Ah don't let's go there. This thing called belief is a personal affair between man and God. This is very difficult for people of other faith or no faith to understand. That is why people think that if you don't belong to my faith, you will not prosper on earth. On what Ighalo said, he is only telling us what he wants to tell the world. He has not told us how much he spends to update his software. People are looking at him because of money but they don't know the full story of his life. They only want to take the part they like. That's why I don't want to be like anyone. If God has done you a favor and you think it is worth celebrating, give thanks no matter what people say because there are 6 billion stories to tell in this world and you only know a few.

Such stories should not be encouraged,it gives people fake hope that paying tithe is the only part to success whereas it's a couple of different efforts like ability,hardwork, connection,luck etc .

Belief is not reality ,for instance,if you believe that dollar will become 1 naira tomorrow or that Nigeria will become USA tomorrow or that you want to become the youngest professor in the world when you're already above 30,no matter how much belief or faith anyone has even more than mustard seeds,it's impossible because these takes time and processes.

Goodmarlian:
Shebi una don pursue Esn from Enugu,see the result

ESN were killing security operatives instead of attacking Fulani herdsmen.

NB : beside the sorrowful situation,I can see the golden roofs in Enugu .

papyjaypaul:
That's what he believes what works for him
“But I prayed one day, God said don’t change the winning formula. If you can be faithful with little, you’ll be faithful with any amount,” Ighalo continued.

In tech ,there's something called bloatware . It's a software that's downloaded but serves no function. Let's say an antivirus bloatware app ,a user might think it's that app that's protecting his computer but it's because his computer has not really suffered major attack .

That doesn't mean that's why God is blessing you. There are people paying tithe more than you but not as blessed as you and there are people paying lesser tithe than you and are richer than you .

Person nor even hear of Asad anymore .

Power is transient,people will move on in a split second.

Though it's an allegation, I want to say that, as a man, be very careful of women. If you're married and you want to cheat (not endorsed) , go for OS. It's better to go for OS than to have side chicks, it's worse when you go for some categories like married women, your employees, or any woman below you at your workplace, church members as a pastor, friend's babe or friend's sister. Women have ruined several powerful men .

Though OS has ruined men too, it's safer than other categories.

HEAVEN4444:
IFA doesn't believe in helfire ? What do you think the story of sopona and babaluaye is ? You are not learned my friend. These are orishas in hellfire. Sopona and babaluaye

Everything else you wrote up there is trash bro

It's ignorant of you to consider Sonpono or Obaluaye as hell fire .

The concept of hell fire solely deals with a fire burning where Satan is or will end up and where sinners or those that didn't believe in Jesus or follow Mohammed go to .

In Isese ,we don't believe in that . Though there's a believe of afterlife but hellfire was never there and the heaven is not in the concept of Abrahamic religions heavens .

Sonpono is worshipped in Isese ,she's just an Orisha like every other Orishas. No Orisha came from hell fire . I think you're the one that need to demand refund from your teachers or check if you really study anything .

Even in the Bible ,no demon was forged in hell fire ,they're considered as Lucifer's followers that fell along with him .

HEAVEN4444:
oh so you are an esu worshipper ? No wonder you been talking nonsense all day 😆

Since you have no defence,you've resorted to adhominem but to point out your hasty conclusion,I consider all religions as man made ,not necessary in our society and I only believe in higher power .

Supporting Isese is because indigenous religion should be more recognised than imported ones to counter neo colonialism but not because it's different in belief than others .

They are all fairy tales .

HEAVEN4444:
Lucifer in that Bible verse refers to Babylon which would be modern day America. America is the Lucifer of the modern world. The light bearer which is why they have that huge statue of the light bearer in New York. It's the first thing you see. The light bearer statue. Lucifer. And yes the king of Babylon did try to usurp Gods laws by trying to spread homosexuality and LGBT agenda etc etc on the planet. These things are happening in real time but you people think it's some mystery divine era that happened eons ago. Nothing new under the sun, that which has been is that which shall be.

And IFA is not standalone. The spiritual forces that control the whole planet are the same. The stories are created and culled from the interaction of these forces. Yoruba did not create these forces. They have been here before humans . We are simply creating systems to qualify and quantify it using mythology


As for olodumare sent Obatala with some tools to create the world, that world in question is not a physical creation of the world but an establishment of the right hand divine path so as to bring light into the world and then Obatala who is Adam in the Bible eventually fell asleep on the job and a woman was pulled out of him meaning the empire has now fallen and the serpent was born to bring judgement, eve bore cain, and fallen Obatala is now Oduduwa who fell from heaven down to earth. THIS MYTHOLOGICAL JOURNEY IS NOT FOR FEEBLE MINDED PEOPLE. YOU NEED TO BE CALLED INTO THIS DIVINE DISCIPLINE SO AS TO BE ABLE TO COORDINATE ALL THE WISDOMS

One of the lies of religion is to consider some story as metaphor when it favours them and literal when it favours them that's one of the reasons why I don't practice any religion .

Lucifer is Satan and any other explanation is self ascribed or heresy .

Most of biblical names and stories are adulteration of real stories or epics . For instance ,Moses has similarities with Sargon , Ahaseureus with Xerxes ,Noah story with epic of Gilgamesh etc Babylon exists as a standalone empire but not as a metaphor for USA .

Several biblical scholars have interpreted Daniel visions as USA ,Russia and China but literally kingdoms disappeared in the Bible . So I will refer you to Ecclesiastics that nothing is new under the heaven that whatever that's happening now has happened before therefore it doesn't mean that USA is Babylon and Babylon is Lucifer ,it simply means Babylon has happened before and therefore USA could end up like Babylon . Even,Rome and British Empire happened before USA and they've all fallen .

"Spiritual" forces that control the world is universal but the understanding of humans across different cultures and civilisations are different that's why we have different religions and doctrines .

There's a reason they call some religions like Judaism , Christianity and islam Abrahamic because they originated from single source which is Abraham but they divided along the line ,Judaism stick to Moses ,Christians parted way and follow Jesus while Islam later parted way and followed Mohammed.

IFA doesn't believe in hell fire ,or one saviour or one Abraham or Jesus or Mohammed . Olodumare didn't create heaven and earth in seven days .

In as much as we know that the tools given to Obatala might be metaphor,there's no correlating story that God gave Adam tools to create earth .

Again ,trying to find a correlation or dependence on foreign religions is a sign of inferiority complex and an avenue to downplay the intelligence of Yoruba ancestors that founded Isese. I can tell you that as there's holy spirit in Christianity,there's IFA in Isese and there's AI in tech which all help humans to foresee future or perform better but that doesn't mean their scopes are the same or they share the same origin .

HEAVEN4444:
devil wanted to usurp the man created in Gods image but not God, nobody can usurp God. And IFA is not a standalone system. It was crafted from the spiritual forces that govern the planet. Same system exists everywhere with the deities having different names eg sango is thor etc etc but the Yoruba system is a more robust system

Isaiah 14 literally spoke about how Lucifer wanted to ursurped God.

Christianity itself takes a lot from pre existing religions like Judaism and Zoroastrianism while Islam takes from Christianity , Buddhism, Zoroastrianism etc .

IFA is a stand alone religion because there's no record of direct influence from external religion . We can take the most important story as an example which is the creation myth . Olodumare sent Obatala with some tools then Oduduwa took over when the former slept off but this story is not in any other creation stories .

It's true that religions all over the world has similarities but that doesn't mean one is dependent on another as you said in your previous comment.

It's like under playing the inherent intelligence of IFA adherents.

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DeOTR:
How many dedicated Esu worshippers have you come across? There's nothing like Yoruba religion. We as a people believe in Olodumare, and use the lesser gods as intercessors. Esu is not by any chance a favorite one. I'm privileged to know a lot about traditional stuffs owing to the fact that that Grandpa is an initiate. I used to be too. I'm from a family of powerful people, most of whom were never exposed to any other religion. None of them Esu, so this is not a foreign religion thing. Maybe not a perfect parallel with the biblical satan, but those that use his name as a Yoruba translation of the satan know people don't worship him openly the same way they worship other gods.

I have a close family (in law) that Esu is their family Orisha and I know two other families that have Esu in their Ojubo.

Orishas are not "lesser gods" , they're simply "Orishas"

That many people don't worship him anymore doesn't invalidate his importance or favouritism ,how many Sango or Ogun worshippers have you come across ? The most prominent worshippers are IFA adherents .

Those that use him as parallel to biblical or Quranic devil were either mischievous or ignorant because they could have used Jesus or Mohammed as parallel to Orunmila as well .

HEAVEN4444:
the devil is a messenger of God but not an enemy of God. He works with God to put punishment to those that sin. He and God are always discussing who needs to be punished ( book of job chapter 1 vs 5

The thing I have noticed about IFA and orisa Is that nobody knows what they are talking about about. Even so called IFA and orisa experts don't know what they are talking about about. To be astute in the orisas you have to master universal mythology and egyptology and the Bible and astrology amongst other disciplines without which you can never be a master in IFA and orisa

The devil wanted to ursurped God and sent to earth for his punishment but Esu never rebel against Olodumare/God.

God didn't send Devil to Job ,he's the one that brought the idea ,God only grant him permission. Devil is in hellfire or will be in hellfire but Esu is not and there's no hell fire in Yoruba religion.

You lied that no one knows what they're talking about IFA and Orishas . Odu IFA is a stand alone course and has no relationship with any foreign interference.

DeOTR:
The bottom line is, he's not liked by many people, maybe because of the nature of his assignment.

You should say he's not liked by Abrahamic religion adherents .

In Yoruba religion,they worship him , appreciate his effort to keep balance and appease him not to do them harm .

DeOTR:
The Esu character is mischievous, maybe that's why they drew the parallel. Interestingly, it sounds like how the Yorubas should call Jesus. The letter J has never been part of the Hebrew letters.

They're almost the same but not the same because Esu is not an enemy of Olodumare and he doesn't do evil but carries the evil judgement of Olodumare to the sinners .

Lastly ,if we assume it's parallel,why's Jesus not called Orunmila ? Or Elijah called Sango ?

HEAVEN4444:
esu is the trickster. Devil

Esu is a messenger of God in Yoruba belief but not an enemy of God .

He's the one that guard the gateway between heaven and earth . He provides food for other Orishas . He carries the punishment of God to those that sin .

Great!

Association of Yorubas religion should lobby for a day dedicated to celebrating all the Orishas so that it can be more pronounced.

Also ,they need to fight for the Esu misrepresentation in Abrahamic religions .

Esu is not Satan/Devil .

EXPRESSSMAN:
Don't say that. You cannot be around and someone takes your child from you and you say the person is powerful without giving him a fight.

There's a way you fight someone that's more powerful than you ,in the case you mentioned,if you go head to head ,you might not come out alive . That's why there are institutions like police ,army and human rights organisations to enhance your power .

oyeb15:
Akande is d best governor of Osun. He compulsory retire sit tight principals and didnt borrow a penny.
He's a very disciplined and fearless man with that his crocodile smile.i wonder how he able to blend with Tinubu.

There was strike during his time and I remember several workers (incompetent) were sacked .

Inside life ,you don't fight someone that's more powerful than you .

sprints1:
can never happen na chess 3 of them dey play. In international politics no friend everyone na enemy that uses one against the other and later become friend - enemy

You're right 👍

alphaNomega:
it won't. the military industrial complex needs enemies to justify their outrageous budgets otherwise they would be seen as thieves in the eyes of the people.

True ,I've been thinking about it ,if Ukraine war is resolved,where will the next war happen?

Xisnin:
It appears you don't the meaning of gloablisation.
Trump was elected to destroy globalisation!

Why don't you tell me the meaning of globalisation?

One thing you don't know is that a new structure always emerge after old structure is destroyed. Use UN vs league of Nations as a case study .

The world will be a better place if US,Russia and China unite .

We might be looking at true globalisation in our time .

Blazetrailer:
....lol...lord have mercy...what else will I not see on Nairaland? Seun Osewa, you have a case to answer o...this your Nairalad is turning to something else with the type of people it attracts......

So when you buy forex at lower rates with fake documents, obtain the forex, take it out, return to sell sell it at higher rate(exact description of what you said Emefiele was doing), what is that called ??

Trading innforex does not mean you have sense..lol

Sorry bro, are you dyslexic? If you are, my sincere apologies. It is not my character to mock mentally disabled people. If you are, I take what I have written preciously back because I now understand that it
a natural bestowment for you to be this dense, not what you would have like to be. Pele, sorry

...oya, run along now bro and go and play with your fellows , i understand better now.

You don't even know the difference between round tripping and arbitraging and I've been arguing with you since morning.

This conversation is beyond your IQ and pay grade .

Go and read about Dunning Kruger effect first .