Let me know when the herdsmen are apprehended and made to pay whole amount of the damages caused, payment for causing emotional panic and jail time or fine for trespassing boundary and causing damage .
[quote author=smokinloud post=133901051] Here's another video on X where the dead HAMAS leader Yahyar Sinwar promised to confuse Israel by moving Hamas headquarters from one civilian building to the other. HAMAS HAS BEEN IN GAZA SINCE 2005 BUT IT HAS NEVER BUILT A SINGLE MILITARY INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE ITS STRATEGY IS TO TAKE HUMAN SHIELD.
Hamas leader admits that they use civilian buildings, schools and hospitals as human shields. He describes how the organization constantly works to move its headquarters from one civilian structure to another in order to confuse Israel.
if you could the comments under the videos you've been sharing about how they're mis interpreted by propaganda channels.
Now ,did you know that Mossad headquarters is in civilian area ? Did you know that they're military installations on Tel Aviv University buildings ? If these places were targeted ,will you consider the attackers terrorists or warriors ?
Did you know maybe those that were attacked on Oct 7th were all active personnel since it's hard to differentiate between civilian Israeli and their spies ? I ,for one can never trust any Israeli the same way queen of England never visited Israel or allow any Israeli in her palace ,you can see the way even their president personally install listening device into Boris Johnson toilet .
That's by the way ,there's a thin line between good and evil and if you wrestle with a pig ,you become one . As I've said earlier ,two evil can exist but I believe Israel is more evil than Palestine .
smokinloud: That's why noone can ever arrest him because no guilty verdict was pronounced on him. He was to be arrested for crime he's not guilty of by an Islamist. The ICC and ICJ has never found Israel guilty of any offense
Then why did several countries declared him non grata ?
Why did USA threatened ICC ?
Has any country be found guilty of war crimes or the leader of the said country ?
So it's Islamist ICC that declared Netanyahu of war crimes but it's not Islamist ICC that declared Putin or Sadam of war crimes ?
smokinloud: meaning I'm an ai?. lol Are newscasters allowed to use two different videos to make a point to viewers? And does showing two different videos automatically make it inaccurate?. It actually said HAMAS uses human shields
Does my statement means you're an AI ?
Now you're sounding less smart when you don't use AI to respond .
Two audio were mixed and posted by IDF propaganda agency,if you're sure of the audio ,get the link from the news agency that conducted the interview
smokinloud: That's what you should have asked. Under international Humanitarian law, if dem send rocket to your territory you get right to neutralise the place where dem send that rocket from because the don because threat zone for ur country. You can neutralise that place proportionally clean and clear. In this case Israel radar nor dey talk say na hospital or school building the rocket come from. E go just give them the location in latitude and Longitude form. Israel has never been found guilty of any international law against Gaza.
lol I need to be sure of what you meant before I responded,newly born twins were responsible for launching missiles against Israel and that's why only the room where the infants were was destroyed by the strike .
Israel has never been found what ? Why don't you tell us why ICC declared Netanyahu wanted and UN and other international organisations are at loggerhead with Israel?
smokinloud: you were referring to the missiles strike that killed kids on hospital and I responded that it was as a result of counter-bombardment. I never mention fighter jets or drones. Israel fighter jets don't kill civilians. It's their counter-bombardment measure that sometimes cause civilian casualties.
smokinloud: He said HAMAS needs more Gaza civilian blood to inspire them. What does that mean?!.
Now,he never said "they used them as human shield"
He said they "need their blood" to make them persistent in their resistance .
Now let's look at this , people tend to be awaken or work very hard when bad things happen to them like poverty or loss of a parent .
IMU ,he didn't say he used them as human shield but the death of his people his needed to make them persistent in as much as the speech is ludicrous,he never said they used them as human shields .
[quote author=smokinloud post=133898251] twitter translation, at least, you can trust it.
"Hamas: we use women and children as human shields Israel: Hamas uses women and children as human shields, we see it all the time. Propaganda for Leftists: Hamas is a humanitarian organization that would never use human shields."
smokinloud: You can use ai to translate it into English. Technology has made life easier.
I've observed most of your writings have AI undertone that's why it's trying to water down some certain evils.
While AI has it's good sides ,it's also used for evil too ,but since that's not the bone of contention,the audio was two different clips and didn't say Hamas encourage using to human shield by "terrorists" against enemy strikes .
smokinloud: Abraham encountered neighboring populations when he arrived in Canaan. These neighbors, residing in areas now known as Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan, respected their boundaries and coexisted peacefully with Abraham. There's no historical record of conflicts with his neighbors over land ownership. Instead, they acknowledged his presence and even paid him tithes. Regarding Israel's past, it's acknowledged that some Israeli militants committed terrorist acts against the UK. However, the UK chose not to hold the entire nation accountable.
It's unclear why you're revisiting century-old events, especially when all parties involved have moved forward. Furthermore, given the US-Israel alliance, it's unlikely that Israel would intentionally attack American forces.
Why should we talk about millennium history but not just a century ,that's the tactics of people that have things to hide .
That Israel attacked UK and US and UN simply means there's no limit to the evil they can commit to further their agenda . And yes ,they can attack US to blackmail them . Old testament was written by Jews and theres no limit to the propaganda that would have been there but based on biblical recorded events ,there's no record that Abraham had a clash with the inhabitants but that doesn't negate the fact that Abraham didn't belong to Canaan but Iraq and it's the cause of the conflicts going on in ME today because these Zionists believed their god promised them the land .
Also ,Elon Musk for instance is a South African but now very powerful in US ,doesn't have any clash with "real" Americans does that means that he originally belong to USA ? Because a migrant is welcome in a place and does well for himself doesn't make him the original owner .
smokinloud: The UNEF was never attacked. maybe someone edited that on Wikipedia. Islamists have been changing narratives on Wikipedia recently. Can you present any other valid source to corroborate your point? Very funny, the ai said yes to an event that happened in 1967 and shows picture of 2024 as evidence. lol
smokinloud: Israel has never initiated war against the Arabs. The animosity between Arabs and Israel dates back to the time of Prophet Muhammad, with Islamic texts like the Quran and Hadiths explicitly promoting hatred towards Israel. The Hamas charter is unequivocal in its goal to annihilate Israel, reflecting a deep-seated ideology that prohibits Jewish existence.
Your simplistic analogy of police and VIPs is irrelevant in the context of war. Israel's military employs advanced technologies, including radar systems, drones, and satellites, to pinpoint coordinate numbers for counter-bombardment. These technologies work in tandem to provide precise targeting capabilities, allowing Israel to respond effectively to threats.
It's essential to acknowledge the fundamental drivers of this conflict, rather than relying on flawed analogies or misinformation.
You don't speak Arabic ,check the comments of the video you posted which is part of Israeli hasbara ,it's been debunked as mis representation of what he said and two audio were joined together. No where in the video was human shield encourage but to stand their ground to protect their homes to prevent ethnic cleansing like you're supporting now . Again ,there's no single picture of Hamas using civilians as Human shields .
The news you posted about hostages being held in UN camps are also claimed by released hostages which can be compromised because they were not caught in those camp ,we know what propaganda agency is capable of ,we saw the hostages Hamas released how fresher they're and the ones Israel released how tattered they're to the extent that same Jerusalem Post is now running propanga that Hamas gave Israelis hostages something before released to be able to look fresh .
The chaos was not caused by Arabs but by Abraham and if you read the Bible at all you will agree that Israelites were commiting genocides against different nations until they reached Canaan even after reaching there ,they still destroy Jericho that has nothing to do with them just because they want to snatch their land .
Israel installation in 1940s upset the peace of the ME .
Using my analogy of a guard and VIP ,I believe you have no interjection that the police that shot someone will be held responsible but not VIP. The same way people that ordered the hit on civilians location because terrorists are hiding there will be held responsible. Let me give you a similar instance,if a policeman shot a civilian that was held hostage alongside the hostage takers ,such policeman will face disciplinary measures and risk several repercussions including jail time and dismissal.
Lastly ,if you talk abouts Co ordinates ,it can even be gotten from IP address so you don't need to talk about sophistication,those strikes that were launched into Gaza were not intercontinental but mostly drones and fighter jets which according to protocol access the situation before firing so it's not that they're blind and only see numbers . That's why it's called Co ordinates in the first place . So even if let's assume it's perfect ,are you saying the twins killed in the hospital wasn't Co ordinated ? Or the striking of US vessels ?
Banditry is like cultism but with different MO,a lot of people you know belongs and they're powerful as well . They've infiltrated a lot of organisations and it takes a leader with strong will to be able to conquer all these evil non state actors .
smokinloud: The claims made against Israel and its history are misleading and inaccurate. Starting with Abraham, the biblical account shows that when he arrived in Canaan, the land was not inhabited by a unified nation or a single owner. Instead, it was populated by various tribes and city-states and the people there were not occupying Abraham's promised land, they were occupying the neighbourhood. Abraham had the land alone and even have the privilege to share part of the land with his nephew Lot. He had neighbors around Jordan and Lebanon. The biblical account also shows that Abraham had peaceful interactions with his neighbours, such as Melchizedek, who gave Abraham a tithe as a sign of respect.
Regarding the modern state of Israel, the claim that Israel killed UK officers who helped establish the country is a gross exaggeration. While it is true that there were clashes between Jewish militants and British forces during the Mandate period, this was largely due to the British government's attempts to limit Jewish immigration and land purchases.
The claim that Israel refused a two-state solution is also inaccurate. Israel has consistently expressed willingness to negotiate a two-state solution, but the Palestinian leadership has repeatedly rejected or stalled negotiations.
The accusation that Israel killed UN officers during the Six-Day War is unfounded. While there were incidents involving UN personnel during the war, there is no evidence to suggest that Israel deliberately targeted UN officers.
Finally, the claim that Israel bombed a US warship is a reference to the USS Liberty incident in 1967. While the incident was tragic and resulted in the loss of American lives, numerous investigations have concluded that the attack was a case of mistaken identity, and not a deliberate attempt by Israel to target the US ship.
You must joking to say that where he occupied was inhabited or that people there were not unified . So because Nigeria has different ethnic groups now means we don't have identity and because Russia and Canada are too big means they don't have inhabitants?
What was recorded in the Bible was that Canaanites were already the inhabitants. No more no more less .
If Abraham paid tithe to mechidezek ,what does that means ? Doesn't that means he was his lord ?
You can't deny that Abram is from Ur today's Iraq and he left his country for a greener pastures.
If UK helped you ,they have a right to your behaviour,if you consider killing UK forces by "militants" or terrorists like you called other organisations that attacked Israel ,then you're being selective in your judgement. Any justification for killing UK soldiers is a weak attempt to deflect from the fact that Israel killed UK soldiers that helped them to establish their country .
I will like to see where Hamas or Palestinians authority declined two state resolution.
Oh ,it's now not deliberately killing UN staff ?
Of course ,US carrier is too small to be identified and targeted for attack .
smokinloud: So, you've agreed that Egypt aided the Arabs Palestine to fire rockets from their territory into Israel, making them to violate the 1949 armistice agreement ba?!.
The claim that Israel's actions led to the Egyptian blockade of the canal is misleading. The Egyptian blockade was actually a response to Israel's attempts to assert its right to navigate the Straits of Tiran, which connected the Red Sea to the Mediterranean Sea. Egypt had blocked the straits to Israeli shipping since 1948, and Israel considered this a violation of international law. UNEF was not part of the 1949 armistice agreement, it was an emergency setup to supervise the cease-fire in 1956. Israel rejected because they don't want to lose their territory.
The claim that Israel ploughed the demilitarized zone (DMZ) to push its border is also inaccurate. The DMZ was established in 1949, and both Israel and Syria had agreed to maintain the status quo in the area. However, Syria began to cultivate the DMZ, which led to clashes between Israeli and Syrian forces.
Because UNEF wasnt part of the armistice didn't mean UN organisations can uphold law ,is like saying you can't use a newer version of a software because you're used to the first one made and it's not that UNEF was trying to change anything but to uphold the law .
Also ,is that why Israel killed UNEF ?
Israel cultivated the DMZ first which was the cause of the diplomacy decay !
Egypt blockade of the may 1967 led to the war not that of 1949 and the blockade remains for years even after the war . The blockade was a means to support Arab countries to pressurise Israel to stop ongoing operations in Syria and other Arabians countries .
smokinloud: Hamas targeting civilians, including those attending social gatherings, is a heinous crime against humanity and a blatant violation of international law.
If my child were attending a school that Hamas had commandeered to launch missiles at Israel, and Israel responded with counter-bombardment that resulted in my child's death (God forbid), I would hold Hamas accountable for the tragedy. By using civilian infrastructure for military purposes, Hamas would have recklessly endangered the lives of innocent people, including my child.
Disturbing evidences are emerging showing that kidnapped victims have been sheltered by organizations like the Red Cross and UN. This raises serious concerns about the potential complicity or negligence of these organizations in perpetuating human rights abuses.
I will to see the disturbing evidence that the aforementioned organisation were complicit in terrorism against Israel .
Hamas attacking Israel was a response to pre existing evil committed by Israel against Palestinians but two evil can exist !
Let me give you a markup ,if a police is guarding a VIP and the police mistakenly killed someone ,the police will be held responsible but not the VIP . In every part of the world , civilians matter are handled differently,that's why every forces has negotiator like when thieves hold a bank hostage or terrorists holding a plane . If you can't differentiate between attacking a terrorist when he's alone and when's he's with civilians then you don't deserve to be in position of authority.
I will like to see where Hamas also claimed they use human shield or that they will continue to use human shield.
When propaganda news like BBC etc claimed Yahya Sinwar was using human shield that's why he couldn't be taken out ,we eventually found out that hes either in his bunker or on the field fighting ,no single picture of him using human shield!
smokinloud: LET ME ADDRESS UR POINT ONE BY ONE. Under International Humanitarian Law (IHL), employing a slingshot against soldiers is an act of hostility that can warrant lethal force in response. A slingshot, in this context, is considered a weapon capable of causing harm.
In the midst of armed conflict, IHL permits counter-bombardment as a means of self-defense. When missiles are launched from a specific location, the targeted party retains the right to neutralize that threat. Israel's counter-bombardment systems operate by identifying geographical coordinates of threat zones, devoid of distinction between civilian infrastructure and military targets.
It is crucial to acknowledge that the killing of non-combatants, including newborns, is an unfortunate yet inevitable consequence of urban warfare. However, it is imperative to attribute responsibility accurately. The deliberate misuse of civilian infrastructure, such as hospitals and schools, by militant organizations like Hamas to launch attacks on Israeli civilians constitutes a flagrant violation of IHL.
By doing so, Hamas bears responsibility for the consequences of Israel's counter-bombardment measures. The principle of distinction in IHL requires parties to distinguish between military targets and civilians. Hamas' actions deliberately blur this distinction, rendering civilian infrastructure liable to counter-attack.
In this context, Israel's counter-bombardment measures, although regrettable in their consequences, are justified under IHL as a necessary response to HAMAS provocation. In summary, if protesters use weapons against soldiers they can be killed for it and if rocket is launched against Israel from hospitals, Israel can bombard those hospitals considering that their systems nor dey recognise names of the exact location na just coordinate number e dey recognise. Something like this "6°36′N 3°30′E" not something like this "HAMAS HOSPITAL"
What you failed to include in your IHL is that there's a limit to the excessive force that can be used against such civilians that fired slingshot or threw a stone in which most cases of such sniping was not because of civilians firing slingshots or throwing stone but because of ordinarily participating in protests . Endsars protesters caused economic sabotage and the best method of dispersal is tiring tear gas and or water canon ,sniping them or using the army is extreme and thats where the line was crossed .
Also, Red Cross played important part in IHL which Israel violates several times ,so how can you quote such law when you consider it's upholder as ineligible?
If you and Israel consider all international organisations as corrupt ,then why be a part of humans or such organisations,you could have created your own laws where goyim like you can be victim of Jews without repercussions because goyims are considered sub humans .
Also , what you're saying is that all Gaza are being used for operation that's why Gaza was leveled ? When international organisations investigated the claimed that hospitals were being used to carry out attacks against Israel ,nothing was found there . The children that were killed were not one or two that could be considered as mistake but in thousand which means it's a deliberate operations to wipe out Palestinians and especially their future . That's why a fool like Trump is suggesting relocating them to neighbouring countries so that he can grab the land for Israel.
smokinloud: Hamas don't wear uniform when they attack the IDF. They are struck because they attacked first. They use children as shelter and they've said they'll continue using children as shelter. If APC started a war against another country and ordinary citizens shelter them then that country can be justified if the killed ordinary citizens for harbouring terrorists. If endsars protesters are involved in terrorism then they can be snipped. Yes, they're the children of God as par what they proclaim and the Arabs are slaves of allah.
The 1949 Armistice Agreement between Egypt and Israel aimed to establish a ceasefire and separate forces after the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. Egypt's violations of this agreement included:
- Blockade of the Suez Canal: Egypt blocked Israeli shipping through the Suez Canal, restricting Israel's access to international trade and commerce.
- Blockade of the Straits of Tiran: Egypt also blocked Israeli shipping through the Straits of Tiran, which connects the Red Sea to the Mediterranean Sea, effectively cutting off Israel's access to the Red Sea and international trade routes. - Military build-up in the Sinai Peninsula: Egypt amassed military forces in the Sinai Peninsula, close to Israel's border, in contravention of the armistice agreement's provisions for demilitarization.
- Support for Palestinian fedayeen: Egypt supported and allowed Palestinian fedayeen (militants) to launch cross-border attacks against Israel, violating the agreement's provisions for preventing hostile acts.
These violations contributed to escalating tensions and ultimately led to the 1956 Suez Crisis and the 1967 Six-Day War.
Children were sniped for protesting against Israel during Trump and Netanyahu first presidency,it's like endsars being shot at Lekki toll gate . If you consider protest terrorism then you need to go back to school and if you don't see anything wrong in sniping children that were protesting then your mind is gone .
Newly born twins were targeted and struck with missiles in the hospital,of course you didn't see anything wrong with that too because newly born twins are evil .
All of Gaza are human shields that's why they're all leveled but the victims of OCt 7th are not human shields ? People kidnapped by Hamas are hostages but people kidnapped by IDF are prisoners?
If your child is in a school that terrorists are hiding ,will you authorised missile strike against the school ?
Red Cross ,ICC ,UN are all terrorists that's why Israel bombed them the same way they're bombed during the 6 days war ?
Egypt blockade of the canal was a response of Israel initial violation of the armistice, firstly,Israel refused UNEF in the demilitarised zone , secondly Israel wanted to push it's border by ploughing the zone and Arabs responded with attack ,this led to several clashes and failing diplomacy that led to Egyptian action .
Israel has been violating rules since but cry wolf . They killed UK officers that helped them to establish their country and they will not hesitate to do the same to you Nigerian . They refused two state solution,they killed UN officers during the 6 days wars ,bombed US warship and their progenitor Abraham is the beginning of the chaos by leaving his hometown Ur (present day Baghdad) to take over another man's land .
Seunmuham: You said where in the old testament was isrealites wiped out? Does the definition of genocide states that every living soul of a particular group have to be wiped out?
You said Ethiopian Jews were sterilised in Africa. While it's still a baseless accusations and prove haven't been found. The isrealites are capable of that. Now the thing is, it might have happened in Isreal , but never in Africa. Thereby making your argument flawed.
My conclusion to that is that Africans should make themselves stronger
Dhu nawas is not a religion. Just an individual king who converted to juhaism. And killed lot and lot of Christians. Let's attribute that to the Jews.
Keep throwing things and looking for what sticks. It's called fishing. When someone brings up arguments like this,just know that they don't have a leg to stand on. In your Bolshevik, Lenin is Jew. Even Hitler is Jew. Maybe this ones will stick.
Anyway I enjoyed arguing with you because you seem civil.
The only place you got me is where you asked, " where is my humanity"
One of the propangada run by Israel is to called Jew religion when it favors them ,call it ethnicity when it favors them and segregate when it doesn't just to deflect or mitigate responsibility.
Seunmuham: no no no in the old testament, genocide swing both sides. Don't Blame it on jews alone. Now tell me where the jews committed genocide in Europe and Africa. I'll like to learn
Where in the old testament were the Israelites wiped out ? The only paramount suffering they experienced was their enslavement in Egypt even despite losing a few wars.
In Africa ,you can read about how Ethiopian Jews were sterilised to prevent them from reproduction. You can also read about Dhu Nawas that persecuted people of other religions .
In ,Europe ,it's believed that Jews were responsible for the Bolsheviks and it's the reason pogrom was carried out against them ,before you deny this ,what happened in Europe then is what is happening in USA now with AIPAC or Jew lobby is controling US government.
Seunmuham: Since you don't know that the west are the biggest hypocrites and the Arabs are the biggest progenitors of genocides and the world is designed for the strong, then I shouldn't be arguing with you.
Glad you accept the hypocrisy of the western nations,but you're wrong to ascribe the progeny and most genocide to Arabs ,firstly ,the whole of old testament is filled up with Jews commiting genocides,Jews committed genocide in Europe ,middle East and Africa . I can give you list or you can check them out .
Seunmuham: Please be specific and type properly. Which countries did isreal begged not to interfere.
2. The first strike you talked about, kindly state where and what and why was struck fess.
There lies your answer.
Tell me which war in history has never end in genocide. You that's old to news.
Please add your chat got to it
If "all wars" end in genocide ,then why is us backed ICC always prosecute Arabian and African leaders that are weak of war crimes ? Why does human right violation exists and where's your humanity ?
smokinloud: Egypt violated the 1949 armistice agreement by blocking the red sea and declaring war on Israel. US or UN never helped Israel, Israel defeated the 6 Arab nations in 6 days and then rested on the 7th day. In this context, Israel is a child of God while Arabs are slaves of allah 😈. I'm referring to their personal believes. The children surely have parents and guardians. Their parents even swear to protect HAMAS with their soul.
Stop the hasbara [url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1949_Armistice_Agreements [/url]read the origin and the developments . The first picture is how Israel broke the armistice and attacked first ,now show me how and when Egypt broke the armistice
Since you said it's what they believe,now let me ask you ,are Israelis children of God ?
Lastly ,Hamas is a party the same way APC is a party ,will you support the extermination of Nigerians because APC did an "evil?
smokinloud: The Arabs broke the UN treaties by cutting off Israel from Redsea, Israel only acted in self-defence. USA never involved in the 6 days war. Israel alone dealt with all the Arab countries. Israel struck because Egypt declared war on them and cut them off the Redsea. Palestinians are the tools of the devil 😈 allah to inflict pain on the children of God (Israel). Those "genocided" children are the ones now supporting Hamas celebrating victories and also calling for the annihilation of Israel. They look chubby and the vehicles of Hamas looks undamaged.
Egypt closed the sea because of worsening diplomatic relations with Israel ,Israel violated UN treaties . Israel struck first within 6 days ,when the Arabs were about to retaliate,the UN that was spearheaded by USA brokered peace .
No one is child of God ,if Israel is children of God ,are you a slave of God or inconsequential to God because you're a Nigerian ?
Children are not wise enough,that's why prison or consent age for things like marriage have age standard ,are you saying endears victims deserved to be shot because they're protesting the government? Let alone when the protestors are minors ?
Seunmuham: yes I support the I genocide. But isreal should have done enough diplomatic runs like asking every non combatants to move to neighbouring country/ies. Before bombing the chit out if that place. Hamas committed genocide fess.
If a child is with an ide, he's a subject to snipping.
The mistake of sreal is not expelling with immediate effect the remaining Palestinians after they lost the 6 days war
Israel broke the UN treaty before they 6 days way . Also ,they ran to their God USA to stop other countries from retaliating after striking first during the 6 days war .
I hope the genocide that happened to the Palestinians people happen to your people as well (so far I'm not one of your people 😜)
You are new to ME news that's why you said you support sniping children that are with Hamas ,children that were "protesting" were sniped during Trump first regime .
Evil is evil wheter it's done by Hamas or IDE ,you should be ashamed of yourself for supporting genocide and you don't deserve to live among humans .
Seunmuham: When the people you are defending choose war over peace, what do you expect
Who am I defending ?
Also ,tell us who broke UN and entered into Palestinians territory ,tell us who's blocking two state resolution,tell us who's sniping unarmed children before Oct 7th ,tell us who's bombing civilians homes .
There's no dodging it that you support Palestinians genocides because of "HAMAS" .