timbros:


Your statement was misleading.

A football newbie will read that and carry it with him, and even argue outside that nobody else won both tournaments that summer except Jorginho.

Normal people got your message that only Jorginho won both tournaments. And it's a normal person that is questioning the info. The least thing you should do is accept the mistake and move on. There is no grammar you will speak here that will twist your initial mistake.

Jorginho is not the only player that won UCL and Euros that summer. Simple.

Was Emerson a starting player for Chelsea? Even for Italy he wasn't a starter till Spinazola got injured in the semi. Learn to ignore irrelevant stuff and stop wasting people's time. You are a grown man

raumdeuter:


Knockout stages Lookman scored 3 goals
How many did Chiesa score in the knockout stage

2

raumdeuter:


Lookman started 6 of our 7 games playing 540 out of 660mins
Chiesa started 4 of Italy 7 games playing 437 of 720mins

Compare minutes from Quarter final to final, na the Koko be that. Chiesa played more than Lukman when it counted

raumdeuter:


Unlike Chiesa, Osimehn started all our gams from group stages not being brought on as a 20mins sub while once again Jorginho started and played all important games

Lukman was our second best player and played exactly the same instructions as Chiesa and rested multiple games and came off almost every game

timbros:


You are the one doing strong head here.

Instead of acknowledging your goof, you are claiming right.

You specifically made a statement, without adding any if or but or apart....

Did any other player win both major tournaments that summer? Yes or no.

Save your childish arguments for Airmark. I knew about Emerson even while typing that. I assume normal people will get the message but a word salad merchant like you will start wasting time over nonsense. Face front abeg

raumdeuter:


Jorginho was a starter in all crucial group and knockout games and was barely taken off unlike Chiesa who played just over 50% of important matches

Just like Semi Ajayi play all minutes while Osimhen get taken off after being used as workhorses to cover vast spaces all game because Peseiro wants to sit deeo

Chiesa and them were used as workhorses, 3 men to cover the whole opposition half, so that Jogginghoe, Chielini and Bonuccis can sit deep being old men and sluggish. Mancini brought off all his wingers and forwards every game, COVID substitution rules allowed it, so he gives the hard runners rest

raumdeuter:


The only dead rubber group game was the one which Chiesa played 90mins by the time the games got real, he found himself a sub, either coming later or leaving early

That type of players contribution cant be compared to Jorginho who played full matches in all the crucial group and knockout games

Chiesa was starter for Belgium, Spain and England, and played till 80+ minutes and was best winger of the tournament. Save your amala turning

timbros:


Playing smart how? I mentioned your exact words and asked a question.

Where did "apart" enter from?

You specifically said no other player won both major tournaments that summer. True or false?

Don't play your foolish pedantic semantics with me. I am well aware of Emerson and didn't come here to play word salad with you just because I didn't write "starting" infront of player.

timbros:


Yes.

He narrated how he started from attack to DM in Chelsea.

Stop being funny. That statement above says he was fully DM while at Chelsea. "He started CAM then box2box then fully DM while at Chelsea."

If you knew Makelele was a CAM at Nantes you won't try to mock that statement

Hensben taught you something, stop doing strong head.

raumdeuter:

Chiesa minutes
vs Turkey 3minutes out of 90mins
vs Switzerland 20minutes out of 90mins
vs Austria 36mins out of 120mins
vs England 86mins out of 120mins

The numbers here is showing how limited the dependence on Chiesa was

Chiesa in Italy will be like Mahrez or Alvarez to treble winning City

Stop yarning dust about dead rubber group games where Chiesa is building fitness from injury

Games that matter are Belgium. Spain and England and Chiesa played boku. Chiesa still scored the winning goal in the 2nd round against Austria you highlighted, and scored the lone semifinal goal against Spain

timbros:


Did my question not specifically mention Chelsea?

Stop trying to play smart. Did Hensben original post you mocked say he was referring to Makelele playing CAM at Chelsea?

timbros:


Are you sure?

Don't try to play smart. Starting player apart from Emerson, yes

raumdeuter:


We are discussing what they did what they did not what they could have done if not injured or what could have happened if Jorginho got injured

What happened is that Spinazzola got injured and missed the last 2 crucial games that won his team the Euros and cannot be more important that a player who played all the games including the crucial ones he missed
Chiesa is so important that he was never a starter in crucial matches or he was always bundled out quick in games

Chiesa wasn't bundled out anything. Italy forwards and wingers were working hard cos Italy played deep and Chiesa came came off late to keep him fresh. Their setup required a lot of running from forward players as they couldn't commit old men Chielini, Bonucci and the Jogginghoe too high. That's like saying Osimhen was bundled out every game because Peseiro played deep and used Osimhen legs to cover the whole opponents half till he tired out. That's what Chiesa and co were doing and came off to rest

Every single Italy winger and forward and most fullbacks came off in every game. UEFA allowed 6 substitutions due to COVID environment so Mancini rest the sprinters and allow the static positions like CB and DM to play the full game.

How can Chiesa be bundled out and make team of the tournament?

timbros:


...for Chelsea...

Very clear in my post.

Did the post you mocked mention it happened at Chelsea?

raumdeuter:


See names. If we check how many of these were consistently in starting lineup for the euro win now story go change

Chiesa how many games did he start for Italy at the Euros?

The only game Chiesa played full 90mins was the inconsequential 3rd group stage match vs Wales

437mins out of 720 mins

If we stick to the serious matches and remove the inconsequential 3rd group games that's usually left for bench players
Chiesa will be down to 347 mins out of 630mins which is just above 50% of minutes in serious games to a key player

Now to Spinazzola who actually missed the entire semi and final to injury yet this is ibime claiming a player who missed the crucial games to winning the trophy is the key player to winning the trophy


That's some serious capping. If you were to be Russian your name will be Valeri Karpin

Spinazola made team of the tournament despite being injured for the semi and final, such was his impact. If Jogginghoe got injured at any stage, he would be forgotten instantly

Chiesa was electric and scored in the semifinal against Spain. Bonucci scored in the final and kept solid defence which was the foundation of their win

So tell me how Jogginghoe will rate above Chiesa and Bonucci who scored in semi and final while Jogginghoe missed his spotkick in the final

Not to mention Donnaruma, the POTT by far

So already your top 3 nonsense is out of the window from just Donnaruma, Chiesa and Bonucci even if you discount Spinazola due to injury, and I haven't brought in Chielini

mariahAngel:


Are you from Ibeme?

No

Conspiracy theories have finished Africans minds

Otherwise how will someone launch currency with $285m of gold and call it "backed by gold"

Zimbabwe are crazy.

Any random country has billions in gold reserves and don't claim their currency to be "backed by gold"

CCIA:

Dangote fit bail that country out anytime anyday.

how can a whole country be backed by only $100 million cash and $185 million gold reserve making a total of $285 million

Comedian country

raumdeuter:


Can you name the top 3 performer for Italy when they won the Euro

Donnaruma
Spinazola
Bonucci


Chiellini
Chiesa
Jogginghoe


In that order

User09:


Let them twist it however they like. Ati Verratti o, ati Donarrumma, no one gives a s**t

History and posterity has already put Jorgiboy names in the books

Like I said and will keep repeating, whenever they start the stupid talk, just ask them to name the only player from Chelsea to win the European Player of the Year medal.

Rubbish. Had Donnaruma failed to save one penalty either in the semi or final, Jogginghoe will not even make top 20 in Balon dor

He has not made it before and has not made it since while players like Kante are regular on the ballot. He is just lucky to be the only player lucky enough to be carried to glory in both tournaments that summer by Kante and Donnaruma

Thunder will fire your crooked mouth for trying to pass on Kantes efforts to Jogginghoe that year. Kante was favourite for Ballon dor as of the end of May 2021 based on his UCL performance, Jogginghoe was not even in Chelsea top 7 performers in UCL, he was just lucky Donnaruma helped him cross the line. If Kante won Euros, he would have won Balon dor never mind EPOTY. Jogginghoe only won what he won for being a statistical anomaly - no other player won both major tournaments that summer.

BlueRayDick:


I don't think any president comes close to Abacha in Africa ; not to talk of Nigeria . Abacha na GOAT for looting

Mobutu Sese Seko says hi

raumdeuter:


What is leader in defence? Did Arsenal sign Gabriel or Saliba because of leadership conference they got first class in? For all you care Gabriel and Saliba might not even speak English when they first got to Arsenal but we immediately saw the improvement

Defence is a doing act not by point.

Its show not tell

Gabriel is a natural leader

In Arsenal, Odegaard is the captain but Gabriel lead all the team talks

User09:


Only you and his critics think this.

We have had the extensive argument on here sometime back, you can go back and check the thread.

They tried to give the Italy accolade to Verratti, the argument was torn apart, Ditto, Kante.

No need rewriting history.

Thunder go fire you for this statement in bold

Is there any Chelsea fan that doesn't know Kante was far and above the player of our UCL run. His MOTM in every game confirms it

Nobody gave Verratti the most accolade. italy won by penalties in semi and final and the accolade rightly went to their goalkeeper. Donnaruma was player of the tournament confirmed by UEFA while Kante was player of the tournament for UCL.

timbros:


Oga your take is the shocking one.

When did Makelele played CAM for Chelsea?

The same Makelele that has a position named after him?

Makelele was a CAM for Nantes

Drove them to UCL semi in 1995

iamoyindamola:

See paper tiger ibeme/ibime where he belongs
I hope he won't blame crypto this season

I've got the third highest points in the FA Cup and 27th in the main league. Na just bad draws every week dey mess me up

For example, Mukina2 will be scoring 30 points every week, it's when she face Ipukulu, she will pull 100 points out the bag

Ballzproblem2:
na the only thing you sabi , near ph see if I no go arrange your teeth

Drop your location make we test your PH level

Ballzproblem2:
Bleep you bitch

Bloody immigrant

Saka is a robot player. No wasted movement, no wasted dribble and no wasted pass.

Saka does exactly what the computer says both offensively and defensively and that's why he will always be managers favourite. He runs exactly where computer expects him to run and when it expects him to run, both forward and backward and he dribbles only when necessary. He is a managers dream. Saka, Kane, Rice and Bellingham is already locked in.

Eunoiaa:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMMmvjeNC/


Wow. 😭😭😭

This- this is so-.


Reminiscent of the storming of the Bastille. Not quite like it, but perhaps a sub- action under it. Truly beautiful, and a once-in-a-blue-moon reminded of power truly residing with the people. Like corporations are, because the masses are. Now I'm really invested in this boycott, and want to see it to the end. Sees how smoothly Starbucks will sail through. Will make for an interesting political/economic analysis in the future.

Annoyer, you done drink Starbucks before?

Face front, you can't boycott what you never patronised

Griffon, any comment on your boy Caicedo?


Lassana Diarra did 10 times better as a youth player for Chelsea than that Caicedo is doing and didn't still make first team

Ballzproblem2:
Joe shields should be given keys to summer transfer window any player he wants give him ,he was that moved for palmer and lavia , although lavia is struggling with injury he is a top signing thing.


shield wants Nico Williams,give it to him

Comot dia, all Chelsea TD should be sacked. Who else did Joe Shields sign, make I check something

swiz123:
This is the kind of performance I expect from an exceptional player. I expect them to turn up when they meet the big boys and Palmer has been doing that.

Every time I go to see Saka against the big boys, I am left to wonder what the fuss is about.

No whine yourself, you were the biggest Palmer hater when we signed him

Saka is already on the team sheet with 3 goals and an assist in 4 games at the last world cup

Bowen is next to Saka as a different type of RW, a more explosive type, with crazy numbers on the board also

We never even table Foden matter who for me has to go to the left wing and kwantar with Gordon

I'm Palmer biggest fan but I don't see space for him in England team