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Debramaye:
okay I've accepted

Can't seem to send a dm!

Your account is on private. I've sent a request. Cc Debramaye

Debramaye:
yeah I have Instagram, I've never replied to mails on here

Okay.. I'm hitting you up.

Grandlord:
Okay buddy.

Tell me more about web design.

Nothing much to say for now. I'm still a noob.

Web development actually

Debramaye:
Well I'm not really into the freelance thing (selling services on upwork etc) , programming is more like a hobby I enjoy because it feels good building my own custom music player or converting my websites into mobile friendly apps(which is easy by the way), fixing bugs with already existing apps (like removing annoying ad codes that freeze my phone),............. I have a job which does not relate to programming or app building in anyway, just a normal 9-5 job to keep myself together and handle some of my personal bills...

on the average programming can fetch you some cool cash if you work for a company or stuff, but I don't know about the freelance world as client requests might be something unrealistic or difficult or they might trick you into sending the complete work and run away leaving you empty handed (happens alot)

But my advice, don't do it just for the money that will be a huge mistake.. Programming is hard it requires creativity and alot brain work, more like putting pieces of a puzzle together.. If you don't play puzzle games like sudoku, tic tac toe etc your likelihood of solving problems in coding is minimal and will leave your program or app with so many bugs (ask Seun why he hasn't made upgrades to this forum for years )


Anyways programming is driven by passion and alooot of frustrating trails and errors, if you can't deal with the above mentioned move to Photoshop or video editing, or maybe web development lol (there are alot of of web developers nowadays)


Besides there are some shortcuts ie hacking which I cannot discuss here

Goodluck

Where can you discuss? Can I mail you?

Grandlord:
So I'm looking to learn programming so as to be able to offer freelance services online on sites like Upwork and Fiverr.

I'd like to get valuable information from anyone who's currently doing this. So your answer to these few questions would definitely be of great help.

a) Is it profitable?
b) How is the market like?
c) What fields? of programming are mostly sought after?
-Web dev.
-App dev.
-Games.
-Data analysis.
-Machine learning etc.

Thanks.

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Haaaa I'm not yet a programmer. I just started learning Web design a few days ago.

zamie:
This class is FREE but is on selection basis only. I would handpick just 15 serious developers. Then we take it from there.

Quote me if you are interested and tell why learning this is important to you. Remember your why is important. The classes would hold offline and online. The location would be given to you if you are selected.

Offline classes is only for Lagosians.
If you don't reside in Lagos. You would participate in the online sessions.

Kudos.

I'm interested.
It's important to me because I'm a budding Web developer. Learning these frameworks will help in my journey.
I reside outside Lagos. So, online session would be preferable. Thanks.

budaatum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfoY53QXEnI

Yea, that's it.

budaatum:
Be a giver and share the link so we may learn from you too please

I downloaded it on my YouTube Go app. Just type "Traversy media CSS" and search. It's the first you'll see

bytementor:
Not same with PHP though both are used in server-side

ASP.NET is a web application framework developed and marketed by Microsoft to allow programmers to build dynamic web sites. It allows you to use a full featured programming language such as C# or VB.NET to build web applications easily


The PHP Hypertext Preprocessor (PHP) is a programming language that allows web developers to create dynamic content that interacts with databases. PHP is basically used for developing web based software applications.

From experience in Nigerian job market I would recommend C# ASP.NET

Thanks for taking out time to explain. I always thought laravel was more popular in the Nigeria job market.

Ausrichie:
It's like a pack of tools for making websites and mostly for programming server side websites

Same with PHP, right?

bytementor:
You can get good HTML & CSS tutorials from www.w3schools.com

Thanks

budaatum:
Can you share suggestions you've already found please? Links to resources online will also help us learn. Thank you.

I've downloaded CSS crash course by traversy media on YouTube. Just looking for more

Ausrichie:
Nice you could learn ASP. Net too

Thanks. What's ASP.NET basically used for?

I've been occupied with some things offline but I still squeezed out some time to try my hands on one or two things (screenshot below). Tomorrow, I'm going to design layout of a webpage with most html elements.

Any suggestions on good CSS video tutorials/ebook?

budaatum:
I will be encouraging you.

Will be much appreciated. Thanks.

Hi guys, I've been keen on learning Web Development for a while now and I just begun. I'm treading the path of self tutoring which I think is quite interesting. I've started with html. When I'm done with this, I'll move to CSS, then bootstrap, then javascript, PHP and the rest. I also plan to delve into app development later on but let's take it one step at a time.

I think starting this thread will help me tighten my seat belt and I could also make use of one or two words from experienced developers here. Who says one must have physical meeting with a mentor? Offline or online, meeting na meeting.

I learnt a few things today. Virtually the whole outline though. I'm yet to get my head around HTML Geolocation, drag/drop, local storage, app cache, Web workers & sse

Screenshots of some things I did today. Will do a lot of practice tomorrow.
Ps: I'm using a phone pending when I get a new battery for my laptop.

JeffreyLiaison:
Just created one, after what happened to my hdd I can only be too careful

How long did it take you to learn Java? And how many hours were you putting in?

Hi, Eaugusta. Have you started your learning process? I'm just starting out to learn now. We could team up and inspire each other.

sweetguy10:
About 300k the package includes CSS , HTML , SQL server and RDBMS with enterprise Java frameworks

Wow that's expensive. Worth it? How long was the course?

Daejoyoung:
l haved worked with Tkinter for some little projects and then played with django to an extent, but Pandas for data analysis has been my major focus.

Learning Pandas and machine learning libraries like scikit learn didn't take me a long time(say a few weeks) because you can find almost everything on stackoverflow, and there are lots of structured projects already, but they both take a very long time to master and work with independently, you would still need Google and Stackoverflow for lots of things even when you master them.
With django and flask, you would have to learn so many other things, you would definitely feel like you are out of the python domain especially with django.
l started with structured projects on the internet, then began to personalize these projects and build upon them after a long time and then finally began to have my own little ideas.

Practicing with structured projects on the internet is easy, but it could take you so many months to transition to the stage where you begin to implement your own ideas successfully and confidently.

When you know enough to kickstart your own idea or build upon previous projects without slavishly following an existing project step by step, then you know you are making good progress, but getting to this stage on your own and without a work or school environment, is difficult and could take months or even years for some.
By this time, freelancing on very small projects or a job or practice school with more project ideas would help. Even an online course with so many projects would be helpful.

You have chosen the right part with html, css, javascript and sql. lt's best to begin with front end frameworks (in my opinion), and then knowledge of sql is vital for almost all backends.

As for the java/python confusion, it's not that important, just begin with anyone, and if after weeks you think it's tough, try the other route.
There should be no pressure to choose one or stick with one, they are just tools by the way, and you can pick them up anytime.

But then if you are to learn php and laravel, why not perfect that first, and make money with that before worrying about java or python?

Thats true @ bolded. I just wanted to figure the whole process out in my head before starting. Lol. I think it's because I'll also want to go into app development later. I'm definitely going to perfect my php/laravel. I'll see how far I can go with html in 7 days. My plan is to be done with html in 7 days, another 7 days for css. I can't say how long javascript is going to take.
Haven't heard much about stack overflow. I've heard someone mention git also. I'll need to familiarise myself with these platforms.

sweetguy10:
I did a one year diploma course in full stack Java technology programming at N.I.I.T. I learnt PHP , Angular on my own .

Great. How much did the diploma cost?

Daejoyoung:
Hello, l am a self taught programmer and l believe it's the best option if like me you can cultivate the habit of sitting in front of your system for long hours. l use google and stackoverflow a lot, and overtime l've become more patient with the debugging process.

Being a self taught programmer is difficult, because you may have no compass on your learning path, and spend more time. Also you may have little or no feed back, but when you put in the required amount of time (say an average of 2 hours per day) and go through the process, it's definitely worth it. This is because you know you are your own teacher, and you measure up your progress by yourself. You are much more actively involved in it.
A self taught programmer however can also search for other programmers around in order to cultivate the habit of team work, and also for the required feedback.
l'll advice a self taught programmer to combine both the bottom up as well as the top down learning approach. Fortunately for us in this current global village, it has become easier to be self taught and very advantageous with the tons of resources online.

Wow thanks so much for your response. I was confused about the top down and bottom up approach but I've seen your reply to the guy who asked.
How long did it take you to be proficient? At least to handle some projects. I plan to start out with html - css - javascript - bootstrap - jquery - angular - php - larave-sql. l After this I'm torn between going with python or java.
Someone suggested I add c# and asp.net. What do you think about this learning path?

manicocon:
only in landscape orientation, i know its annoying

Maybe it's my phone sha. Still didn't work.

To all self-taught programmers

What was your journey like as a self-taught programmer? How did the path influence your growth? Would you have wished you learnt through a professional?

Those that learnt through professionals/I.T firm
What's your story?

Help inspire someone.

sweetguy10:
God bless

Hello..
Are you a self-taught programmer or you learnt from a professional?

If you're self-taught, how was the journey for you?
Cc: emmyvet and all other programmers

gbolly1151:
Well,your client dont care what language you use to development a website in as much it does the job require of it,simple to use,scalable and fast

They might care when they meet a laravel guy who's willing to do the work for a lesser price considering the fact that hosting is cheaper with laravel framework. Don't you think so?

gbolly1151:
Web development with django

What's the frequency of getting web development job with python/django? Most I see on here are php/laravel.

Eggovic:
It will be better if you use a laptop o.

Kk. Thanks

Semtu:
Load it in desktop view.. Click those three dots at the top right, you'll see the option there

I did, didn't have any reasonable difference. Thanks all the same.

Eggovic:
Stay dedicated to freecodecamp.com, with 3 hours daily input coupled with other resources when you get stuck you will be fine within 6 months

I'm having issues with this website. Is there any browser that makes it user friendly? The editor isn't working for me. I can't edit text.

Pls someone should suggest good YouTube tutorial videos or any material on front end (or any aspect of front end). Thanks

Eggovic:
Stay dedicated to freecodecamp.com, with 3 hours daily input coupled with other resources when you get stuck you will be fine within 6 months

Thanks chief.

Good day

I'm about to start my journey into becoming a full stack web developer. I met a full stack developer here in Lagos who trains for #50,000 for 6-7 months (twice a week. 1hr 30 mins per day). The training is going to cover html, css, javascript, php, sql, mongodb

I'm contemplating between self tutoring via w3schools, e books, YouTube videos with dedicated 3 hours daily or starting with the trainer. Can I cover the training via self-study over a period of 6 months with 3 hours daily?


Also, I intend to go into app development later. Is it wise starting with this?


What's your advice?