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hifaif:
You seem to know a lot (even though your only reference is an editable page on Wiki) about the word NOVEL

Everybody knows that a novel is a "usually" long narrative story, in which the characters and events are imaginary.

I never said that novels are not lengthy.

But what we don't know is that; the length of the narrative is the only determinant of a novel.

hifaif:
I was only mocking you. SMP that I put in front of the reply was for that effect.

Mocking me by telling us narrative length is the only determinant of a novel?

I've turned you into a lying bush rat.

Talk about insecurity!

How come you never said that until now?

He said he was mocking me by being dumb.

hifaif:
OK, tell us what you know about a novel beyond the surface definition given by Wikipedia. I mean what you feel a novel is.

And you should (for your own good) ask Wiki to define a NOVELLA, SHORT STORY and SHORT FICTION and post your findings here (if you have the time)

I asked you a question and you're replying with a question!

hifaif:
Get more materials on the word NOVEL.

I am not running. Why would I run? I am calm. It is you who is trembling.

I still insist Chike and The River is not a novel. It is a short fiction and it is not a novel because it is shorter than a novel.

You're not trembling yet you find seriousness in my jokes, like my joke about Kenyans

Your reason for saying C.A.R is not a novel is because it's not lengthy, according to you.

Your said the length of a narrative is the only factor that makes it a novel.

Please kindly tell us where you were taught that the length of a narrative is the only determinant of a novel.

hifaif:
I simply advised you to read wider on it. I didn't ask you to agree with me.

Okay hifaif, but please tell us where you were taught that the length of a narrative is the only determinant of a novel.

hifaif:
[s]Anyone with sense will know that I have been calm while you have been the one running around. Your smiley do not cover your insecurity on this matter.
As a writer then, it was easier to get published then than now when we don't have a lot of traditional publishing outfits willing to take risk on new books.
Plays hardly get published in the same year. Most playwrights then were more concerned with performing their plays in as many theatres as possible rather than publishing them.[/s]

Such an addled being!

Running won't save you.

Who got published first?

Who gained international recognition first?

Tell us where you were taught that narrative length is the only determinant of a novel.

This is the definition of a novel, from Wikipedia;
A novel is a long narrative, normally in prose, which describes fictional characters and events, usually in the form of a sequential story.

But according to haifia(sic), a narrative can be called a novel only when it's lengthy.

hifaif:
You obviously do not wish to help yourself. Believe what you may.

Help myself by agreeing that goats are human beings even when they're not, and everybody sees them as goats?


By the way, you've not told us where you were taught that narrative length is the only determinant of a novel.

Your dumbness is clear!

hifaif:
You are obviously not a good reader. Didn't I say that the only difference is publication?

And didn't you say that she wrote it for herself?

You're just running from pillar to post like a troubled ant.

I was being sarcastic when I said she wrote for herself, go back and check you'll see a smiley attached to that sentence.

In those days, for an African to get published in English language, do you think its easy?

Why was Aidoo not published the same year she wrote and performed her play?

One person attained international recognition before 1967 and the other attained international recognition after 1967.

hifaif:
Please, stop embarrassing yourself. You don't know literature.

Plays don't get published immediately they were written (at least then). They were first performed on stage.

What crap are you saying?

Who got published first?

Did I say plays get published before performing them?

Nwapa got internationally published before her, simple and short.

Nwapa attained international recognition before her.

hifaif:
According to Ask.Yahoo.Com, this is a list of Achebe's works:

NOVELS:

Things Fall Apart, (1958)
No Longer at Ease, (1960)
Arrow of God, (1964)
A Man of the People, (1966)
Anthills of the Savannah, (1987)

SHORT STORIES:

"Marriage Is A Private Affair", (1952)
"Dead Men's Path", (1953)
The Sacrificial Egg and Other Stories, (1953)
"Civil Peace", (1971)
Girls at War and Other Stories, (1973)
African Short Stories (editor, with C.L.
Innes), (1985)
Heinemann Book of Contemporary African
Short Stories (editor, with C.L. Innes), (1992)
"The Voter"

POETRY:

Beware, Soul-Brother, and Other Poems,
(1971) (published in the US as Christmas at
Biafra, and Other Poems, 1973)
Don't let him die: An anthology of memorial
poems for Christopher Okigbo (editor, with
Dubem Okafor), (1978)
Another Africa, (1998)
Collected Poems, Carcanet Press (2005)
Refugee Mother And Child
Vultures, which is used GCSE English as a
'poem from another Culture'

ESSAYS, CRITICISM AND POLITICAL COMMENTARY:

The Novelist as Teacher, (1965)
An Image of Africa: Racism in Conrad's "Heart
of Darkness", (1975)
Morning Yet on Creation Day, (1975)
The Trouble With Nigeria, (1984)
Hopes and Impediments, (1988)
Home and Exile, (2000)
Reflections of a British protected Child (2008)
(forthcoming)

CHILDREN'S BOOKS:

Chike and the River, (1966)
How the Leopard Got His Claws (with John
Iroaganachi), (1972)
The Flute, (1975)
The Drum, (1978)

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081015130208AAgcSR8

List of novels by Chinua achebe.

A
Anthills of the Savannah
Arrow of God

C

Chike and the River

M
A Man of the People

N
No Longer at Ease

T
Things Fall Apart

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Novels_by_Chinua_Achebe

C.A.R Wikipedia page. www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chike_and_the_River

hifaif:
Flora Nwapa is not the mother of modern African literature. Aidoo of Ghana wrote the first book that told a story from the viewpoint of women. Unfortunately, it was a play she wrote in 1965. Flora got published before her. That is the only difference. The woman who really started the idea of telling stories from an African woman's point of view was Ama Ata Aidoo of Ghana.

For the other questions, go and read on the differences between the forms of narratives I gave earlier. Why are you finding it difficult to go and read up on these things?

Stop running from pillar to post.

Nwapa wrote her first prose "Efuru" in 1966 and got internationally published, making her the first African woman to write a novel that was published in English language.

Aidoo wrote her first literal work in 1965 and didn't get published. Its obvious she wrote for herself alone.

Now contrast and compare.

Your questions;

I've surfed the internet without finding those literature scholars you said, they don't see C.A.R as a novel.


1) Tell us who considers narrative length as the only determinant of a novel except you

2) Tell us just one sane person who doesn't see C.A.R as a novel.

3) Tell us those literature scholars that doesn't see C.A.R as a novel.

EroZA:
Can't wait to hear the Nigerian national anthem....South Africa this South Africa that...lol

I don't sing anthems, I only argue with facts.

You can never find me arguing about things I know nothing about.

I quoted you because you said you've never seen a south African seek asylum in Nigeria, which is a pure fallacy.

Mandela, Thabo mbeki and many other blek south Africans sought asylum in Nigeria.

hifaif:
Nwapa is not the mother of modern literature. Such title doesn't exist in literature. She only got published first. There were African-American writers before her.

Narrative length is the only factor that distinguishes the novel from other familiar form of narratives.

Since I can only tell you that literature scholars don't see C.A.R as a novel, maybe you should tell me any sane person who sees it as a novel.

You're such an addled ignoramus, I'm taking about Africans and he's talking about AAs.


Since you claim Nwapa is not the woman pioneer"mother" of modern African literature, why not counter me with facts.

Your questions have been increased!

1) Tell us with facts why you think Nwapa is not the mother of modern African literature.

2) Tell us who considers narrative length as the only determinant of a novel except you

3) Tell us just one sane person who doesn't see C.A.R as a novel.

4) Tell us those literature scholars that doesn't see C.A.R as a novel.

yorubakid2:
chino!!you will soon pay for these things. You started the whole picture of a thing when you posted the supposed picture of eggheader and when the battle was too hot for you, you chickened out like the coward that you are .innocent people who knew nothing about it has to pay for your sins. you should watch your back cause igbos on this forum will never forgive you

Bwhahahahahaha!

Learners!

The only man that downloads his meals online has deceived Y'all.

Moronic nation, Moronic peeps!

yorubakid2:
hahaha looks like I have struck a nerve this hot afternoon why do I have this feelings that you are not superstar1

Superstar1 is a brilliant animal handler. He's behind one of those primitive monikers but not this one.

Eroza, while waiting for me, kindly get facts concerning the issue ready.

hifaif:
SMP. Where did I say they were not East Africans?

Why are you always trembling? I've told you the whites are not coming.

I was just being sarcastic.

hifaif:
[s]A narrative involves plots, subplots and characterization. But there are different types of narratives and that is where length comes in.
A novel is the biggest form of narrative. The micro flash fiction is the smallest.
The Old Man and The Sea by Ernest Hemingway is even bigger than Chike and The River, yet, it is still a novella.
You should read up.[/s]

I don't care about your cowardly defensive rants.



I've just few questions for you;

1) Have you agreed that Nwapa is the mother of modern African literature? If no, debunk it with facts.

2) Did you indirectly state that narrative length is the only determinant of a novel?

3) Tell us just one sane person who doesn't see C.A.R as a novel.

EroZA:
Lol...meet me @ High point ,Abuja street ,hilbrow JHB

Chill!

Your time is coming.

The world sees Kenyans as East Africans but hifaif is tryna tell us they're not.

Hiaifi, just show/tell us one sane person who doesn't see C.A.R as a novel.

This is the definition of a novel, from Wikipedia;
A novel is a long narrative, normally in prose, which describes fictional characters and events, usually in the form of a sequential story.

But according to haifia(sic), a narrative can be called a novel only when it's lengthy.

hifaif:
You picked a portion. Why don't you read the whole information under NOVEL.

Did you indirectly say that narrative length is the only determinant of a novel or not?

I've showed you the basis of a novel and you're still huffing and puffing.

hifaif:
Are you blind? I said it is not even up to 70 pages.

Stop trembling, the whites are not coming.

hifaif:
The world does not regard anyone as the mother of modern African literature.

Says who?

She was the forerunner of modern African women writers. Does that not make her the feminine pioneer of modern African literature?

hifaif:
Seems you also don't know how Wikipedia works. Maybe you ought to ask Seun who once accused Wikipedia of misinformation concerning Nairaland.

Okay!

Now show us one sane person who doesn't see Chike and the river as novel.

hifaif:
Everyone who knows Literature would know that Chike and The River is not a novel.

Your suffering has just began.

This is the definition of a novel, from Wikipedia;
A novel is a long narrative, normally in prose, which describes fictional characters and events, usually in the form of a sequential story.

But according to haifia(sic), a narrative can be called a novel only when it's lengthy.

By the way, Chike and the river has 66pages not 17 as you said.

Hifafi, tell us who the world sees as the mother of modern African Literature if not Nwapa.

hifaif:
He didn't see it as a novel. Wikipedia categorized it as such.

What you rambling about?

If he didn't consider it a novel would Wikipedia categorize it as a novel?

Just show us one sane person who doesn't see it as a novel.

hifaif:
'The world' or Wikipedia? Which?

I listed 3 of your failures and you could only pick one?

Now show/tell us who doesn't see it as a novel except your moronic self.

EroZA:
Lol...my man since I joined this forum,one thing I learnt about you guys is you live in the world of wishful thinking and dreams....many people have used Mandela s name to boost their image,your amaechi is one of them,Mandela family does not have time to respond to attention seekers like that fellow...

I'm coming for you but allow me cut this forest dweller to size, first.