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Rashduct4luv:
May Allah grant you a pious spouse the coolness of your eyes who would be with you in Jannah!

Empiree:
that's it. I know the girls would not care. The people dividing this religion are scholars of Islam. See the seed they planned in this lady and see the seed they planned in our brothers here too.

When you started learning fard of Islam you were taught you most believe in

Shahadahtain

Iqama salat

Zakat

Ramadan

Hajj

If anyone disbelieves in these is out of Islam. There are more like rejecting Ayah of Qur'an.. Rejection is different from misinterpretion. Their misinterpretation then becomes aqeeda later. Like some muslim reject the return of Isa (as) due to their misinterpretation or wrong methodology of the Ayah. But they did not reject the Ayah. This is called misguidance not kufr.


For instance if this lady defile her father and marry you, slowly you teach her correct meaning of the Ayah "khatam nabiy" means prophet muhammad is the deal of the prophets. She will accept it instead of calling her kafir. Their leaders are answerable to Allaah because we have evidences that prophet muhammad was the last Prophet.

This man called Mirza Gulam Ahmad was one of the 30 Dajjal prophesied.

Rashduct4luv:
Aamin.

Empiree:
that's the problem Muslims face now. To tell you that you can't marry your fellow muslim bcuz of ideological differences is very shameful thing. If Islam tells us we can marry people of the Book why do we forbid for ourselves marriage btw Muslim groups. Same with Salafis. I have heard some brothers said they can't give their daughter in marriage to Muslim whose trouser is below the ankle. They can't give their daughter or marry Daughter of alhubidia. What's all these nonesense. It is a shame. I don't think Ahmadiyyah considered nonahmadiyya kufar. That's new to me I have to find out.i already had debates with them here few times but they never said non Ahmadiyyah are kufar

Rashduct4luv:
But remember that whoever does not call a Kaafir by his name is also a Kaafir.

Christians, Jews,.... Atheists and whoever believes in a new Prophet with a new revelation after Muhammad are Kaafirs.

They regard you as Kaafir anyways whether you call them misguided or not. And of cos we are Kaafirs to them because we disbelieved in their extra Prophet and Books.



I read this after typing the above before reading your comment. You see now! You are a Kaafir to them yet you call them misguided. A non-Muslim man cannot marry a Muslim lady.

Empiree:
this is what I meant by they INTERPRETED "khatam nabiy". I don't agree with them one bit but I'm not in position to make kufr declaration of them. There have been some scholars in the past who declared them kufar like Maulana Fazlur Rahman Ansari (ra).

They need to quit this belief. It is nonesense and goes against common sense that son of Punjabi woman was last Prophet. It would have been okay if they said he was reformer of his time. That would be debatable but not prophethood.

That's why there is this strange belief with them when it comes to Jesus. For instance, if a Sunni and Ahmadi debate Christians about Jesus from birth to his disappearance, everything aligns until the point of crucifixion of Jesus.

I am telling you what happened between me and Ahmadi on YouTube some 12yrs ago. We were both debating this CHRISTIAN guy everyday and I didn't know he's Ahmadiyyah until he said when they put Jesus on the cross and after that he escaped to India. But in Sunni we simply don't have this information. Then we left CHRISTIAN guy and faced ourselves. I asked him questions. That's when he realized I was not Ahmadiyyah.

After I did some research i realized that average Pakistani and India subcontinent and some Caribbean have this doggy belief whether they are Muslims or not. I had a friend from Trinidad who told me that we Muslims don't know whereabout of Jesus after his mother took him away. He said he was in Kashmir and that's where he grew older untill one hundred and something years old. I said don't tell CHRISTIANs this . He laughed. He said ofcourse they don't wanna hear it. They used to get angry when he brought it up. When I asked him where he got this story from?. He said from muslims. He doesn't know differences amongst muslims. I realized he was amongst Ahmadiyyah people. He himself is neither Muslim nor CHRISTIAN. He's mix of Islam, CHRISTIANITY and Hinduism but spend more time with muslims and spend time alone with Bible.


Orisirisi


So in my opinion, they are not kufar but misguided. They may be punished for this but they still hold on to fard of Islam from 6 articles of Faith to obligatory practices. These qualifed them to be muslims. There are many more scholars who declined to call them kufar like Sheikh Hamza Yusuf and so on. Misguided is more appropriate way to address them rather than kufar bcuz, amongst them are those who know not but do follow follow. I prayed behind them decades ago and will pray behind them again if they still meet conditions. When I prayed behind them decades ago there was no difference to the way other muslims pray. There was there nothing questionable in their practices in the masjid at that time. Everything was normal.

Rashduct4luv:
Ghulam Ahmad was believed to be a Prophet after Muhammad. If this was a wrongful interpretation then what about the believe that Ghulam Ahmad received revelation from Allah?

Research more about Khutba Ilhamiyya.

Ghulam Ahmad wrote later (describing the " supposed revelation":

It was like a hidden fountain gushing forth and I did not know whether it was I who was speaking or an angel was speaking through my tongue. The sentences were just being uttered and every sentence was a sign of God for me.

— Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Haqeeqatul-Wahi ("Introducing the Books of the Promised Messiah".)


Well,the Question to ask is are they Kufaar anyone who believes there is a Prophet with revelation after Muhammad and Qur'an?

Is their leader a Kaafir? If so what about their knowledgeable followers?

iamgenius:
Where is the reference? And why can't they refute their books themselves. They are liars bro. I have many as friends, that's their belief which they can't do without.

AlBaqir:
Ahmadi are Muslims. Don't be fooled otherwise. Irrespective of Ahmadi factions, they are still Muslim by the virtue of this noble verse:

Surah Al-Hujraat, Verse 14:

The dwellers of the desert say: We believe (i.e we are mu'min). Say: You do not believe (mumin) but say, We submit (i.e we are muslim); and faith has not yet entered into your hearts; and if you obey Allah and His Apostle, He will not diminish aught of your deeds; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."


What makes one a Muslim is ONLY believe in Allah and messengership of Muhammad. Lobatan.

The munafiqun (hypocrites) amongst the sahabah were regarded as Muslims. Upon their hidden disbelief which Prophet knew about, he never for once excommunicated them from the fold of Islam.

Ahmadiyah are of two types:

1. Those who believe Ghullam Ahmad was Mahdi.

2. Those who claim Ghulam Ahmad was another Prophet after the holy Prophet Muhammad.

Both of the group technically affirmed the shahadatayn (there is no god except Allah and Muhammad is His messenger). This is enough to make them Muslim.

You can read more on the difference between Islam and Iman here:

https://www.nairaland.com/2105430/difference-between-muslim-mumin-believer

iamgenius:
Read this https://www.nairaland.com/4154241/ahmadiyya-qadianiyya

Martinez39:
Yes, they are the same . The ordinary differential equations I know :

Ocheinstein:
Differential equations can be divided into Ordinary and partial Differential equations. The basic difference is
For the first one
y=F(x)
For the second one,
y=F(x,y,z,...)
Hence the ways of solving differs a bit. Yet, your basic knowledge will help you. Proceed

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Ilamina:


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Now I am paying for it

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